Battlefield 1

[foz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nRTF2SowQ

:salute:

[Betonov]

Looks good, but EA :-?

[HunterICX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK2CwlPnECQ

Nuff said.

[Oberon]

I don't know, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.
There's only a handful of WWI based games out there, and the vast majority of them are strategy or tactical based, and the other FPS that I can think of, Verdun, doesn't have the finance behind it that EA DICE has.
Of course, this being EA there's going to be a massive zeppelin sized load of unwanted stuff with it, microtransactions, and the like, so that's a major negative against it.
However, looking at the trailer there are some things in it that made me nod my head in appreciation. The trench club, the mission set in the Sinai and Palestine campaign/Arab revolt, the Mark V male tank, gas attack and the Dreadnought, as well as the armour clad machine gunner.

Sure, it's going to take some liberties with history, so did BF1942, but it was still a lot of fun...and who knows, if it does well enough then it might get more casual people interested in the history of the First World War, as we move through the centeniary.

So, I'm not going to look down my nose at this, instead I'm going to be interested in how it turns out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20il6AHlWo

[Raptor1]

I'd like to give this game a shot. It probably won't be too good, but I do like how they're showing other aspects of the war than the stereotypical parts of the Western Front and there really aren't enough World War I games around, in my opinion. Unfortunately, with this being Evil Arts and tied to Origin I shall most likely have to pass on it.

Also, they could have been decent enough to spell the title out as 'Battlefield One' or something. That would have made some semblance of sense, at least...

[Nippelspanner]

While I remain skeptical, I would guess that this could become one of the best BF games ever. The gameplay could be really interesting, from what the trailer gave away. I don't think we need to start debates about authenticity or realism in a BF game, so the depiction of any period hardly matters in my opinion.

Let's see what they will deliver! :yep:

[Betonov]

I admit, I am hyped abot this one.
Bzt this is EA, my PC is showing it's age and my finances still hadn't recovered from last year, so I'll wait a while after release. If the reaction is good I'll upgrade the rig and wait for a sale.
Or ask it as my birthday present :D

[Oberon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9pIvKHSCP0

:haha:

[Jonesy]

I´m a big fan of battlefield 4......looking forward to trying out WW1, although I am slightly worried that the limitations in technology in the period might take away from the game

[Oberon]

https://www.twitch.tv/battlefield/v/72078007?t=02h15m01s

Skip to around 2 hours mark. Some very beautiful graphics there, historically a bit dubious in many places but it does seem like a reasonable mesh between World War One and Battlefield.
Controllable airships which can be shot down and will crash pretty much anywhere with destruction of whatever is underneath and permanent wreckage, very impressive.
Deformable terrain, destructible buildings and changing weather conditions which effect visibility.
It's no Red Orchestra or Verdun, but it doesn't look terrible.

Still....EA.... :hmmm:

[Nippelspanner]

Still....EA.... :hmmm:
So?

Was BF3 bad?
Is BF4 bad?

[Oberon]

So?

Was BF3 bad?
Is BF4 bad?

Can't say I've played either, I'm just going on their reputation.
Don't get me wrong, I like the look of it, it's just a case of waiting for the other shoe to drop. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

France will be available as a 'premium add-on'. :88)

To truly honour the French army in multiplayer and, once again, to show a side that we’re not used to seeing, we have decided to dedicate an entire premium add-on to them with a special treatment after the launch of the game.https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/06/17/battlefield-1-multiplayer-french-army-dlc/

[Oberon]

Indeed...it's not as if the French suffered the third highest casualties, or that a significant portion of the fighting on the Western front took place on French soil, or that France contributed the second largest force in the Triple Entente or anything... :/\\!!

[HunterICX]

To sum it up:
http://i.imgur.com/HQ0ftDs.png

[Oberon]

To sum it up:


Honestly, I'd say in its choice of who to put as a DLC, yes...although sadly I can see why they did it, after all when World War One is mentioned, for the most part the people that come to mind are the Tommies vs the Jerrys, the French, Flemish, Russians, Arabs, Ottomans, Italians, Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalese, Serbians, Austrio-Hungarians rarely get a look in, even the Canucks and Aussies often lose out. A similar thing happens when the war in the Pacific comes about in WWII, it often focuses primarily on the US vs Japan and leaves out things like the Fall of Singapore, the Kokoda trail, and China. Things are getting better now that the world is smaller, and I've got to give BF1 its due, it looks as though the Sinai and Arabian front will be featured, and I honestly can't think of any game outside of the odd RTS which has featured that part of history before, and even if they do happen to mangle the history a bit, it will hopefully encourage some people to look into the real thing and shed some exposure on a piece of history that really has only have one film which features on one person.
So, yes, while there are some rather hefty sacrifices in the name of gameplay being made there, particularly in the prevalence of SMGs in the map that was demoed at E3, I still think that it's good to have a game which brings attention on this war, especially during its 100th anniversary.

[HunterICX]

..although sadly I can see why they did it,

How?

Wera suggests that France haven’t been forgotten about (they are included in the single-player campaign) and that they’ll get their own devoted “premium” expansion in multiplayer.

It's not content that they have to create, it's already there just locked out Multiplayer unless you pay extra for it...there's simply no excuse....that kind of marketing from anyone or any game happening to any faction in my books is a big pile of doo-doo. :nope:

[Oberon]

Oh, I didn't realise that they were in the single player campaign but not in MP, that is a load of dinosaur poo.

[Dowly]

It's a lot of fish. :yep:

[Betonov]

Watched some gameplay videos.

So many assault automatic weapons, like a reskined Battlefield 4 :nope:

Where are the bolt action bayonet charges against fixed machine gun positions. All I saw was a bunch of yahoos spraying and praying.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Where are the bolt action bayonet charges against fixed machine gun positions. All I saw was a bunch of yahoos spraying and praying.
If you want something like that you're better off looking at Verdun at least they have the French.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCg-YAUa2ls

[Oberon]

Outside GT test.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Seems to be fixed.:salute:

[V13dweller]

Ugh, this is going to blind the masses on how WWI really was, I am not going to say that I was there to know, but I have read plently of history and accounts to know. But this is EA we are talking about, they will make it all run & gun 'super fast paced' style of game.

A good example is how many assault and semi-automatic firearms they have in this game, like the Mondragon (Mexican) semi-automatic and the Cei Rigotti.
From my understanding, less than one hundred were made, and one hundred is being generous.
Then we have the Mondragon, this rifle was Mexican, Germany aquired very, very limited amounts as trials but were never adopted.

From what I have seen in trailers, I am not convinced at all with what they are trying to replicate. I have only seen bolt-action rifles used with scopes as "Sniper's", but even then, scopes were a rarity in both world wars.
The rest of it is shoulder firing thirteen kilogram Benet-Mercie machinesguns and Lewis guns.

Also seeing the MP-18 and the Burton makes me shake my head. The Burton's actual usage is questionable and the MP-18 being in service for a matter of months only in the hands of the elite trench-raiders.
Then onto the Standschuetze Hellriegel 1915, this is a unique piece, very, very little information even exists on it, of all the sources I can find, it only existed in prototype stages and was a crew served weapons requiring gunner and assistant gunner.

We also have the Barretta m1918, this was another rarity, being used by the Italians. The Winchester M1907, from what I gather, less than 3000 were in service.
Down to the Remington model 8, this piece had a small magazine (5), was very heavy towards the front and suffered hard recoil from it's Long Recoil action. It was also said to suffer reliability and overheating when in prolonged usage, say, in a combat situation.

This list could go on for much longer than you'd probably want to read, and for me to stay focused on.

But I think EA making this game is going to ruin the chance of another developer making a WWI game, if you look at Red Orchestra 2, this is a masterpiece produced by Tripwire. This game combines fun BUT remaining as realistic as possible, an example of a 32 player team, around 28 of those players are using Bolt-Action rifles, no flashy scopes or anything, a rifle and a bayonette and a grenades, that is your gear. Riflemen are very powerful in the right hands, a single torso shot resulting in almost certain death, except in exceptional circumstances. The other few classes would be a single assault trooper, two semi-automatic riflemen, a marksman, one-two machinegunners, four squad leaders and the team leader.
As you could probably tell, this is a much more realistic system, both sides (Axis and Allies, Eastern Front, Soviets vs Germany) have their own weapon systems helping for asymetric warfare.

The main factor with a game this realistic, is that it drives off those who want a Call of Duty or Battlefield Run &/or Gun style game, which keeps the community limited to the 'Hardcore' realism players.

But I digress, I don't hold high hopes for this game, it's just going to be the same old game, in a layer of polish, over a layer of polish, but once again more polish.

From what I have assembled, EA and Dice have gone to Significant effort just to find as many automatic and semiautomatic weapons as possible, even to find ones that were not even produced yet, to ones that served in minute numbes, to ones that never served at all.

But this is their game, and they are allowed to blind the masses how they please. :nope:

[Onkel Neal]

I wanted to quit Battlefield games forever until I played Battlefield 1 (http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/2/12735156/battlefield-1-star-wars-battlefront)

Until I played the open beta for Battlefield 1 this week, I thought I was done with the series. And that was a pretty disappointing feeling, since I've played every game in it from 1942 all the way to Battlefield 4 — all in, I'm talking about thousands of hours spent capturing Wake Island, doing flips in helicopters, trolling teammates with vehicle stunts, and all kinds of other things you can only do and see in Battlefield games. But somewhere along the line, I got tired of Battlefield games — until this week when I jumped into the series' latest World War 1 arena. And that's because it finally has a heart.

Man, I want to play this.:yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Woot, :Kaleun_Cheers:

Downloaded the Sinai Desert demo and it runs like a champ on my Dell XPS15.

Game looks and plays great, a lot of BF1942 in the flavor, I like it.

[NeonSamurai]

Ya I got to agree with the massive problem of historical accuracy in this game. They should have just gone back to ww2 if they want this nonsense, though even bf1942 has it historical absurdities too (like the American riflemen all having BARs).

I gave up on battlefield after Battlefield Bad Company. Mostly as i got sick of where the series was heading, and because of its consistent lack of single-player or bot matches.

[Nippelspanner]

Played the open beta, great game.
So far my predictions have been accurate: Not much to do with WW1, yet the best Battlefield game so far, easily.

The game play is just pure fun, immersive, tense, yet not overwhelming.

[Onkel Neal]

Totally loving this game. There are some really great improvements, such as the random sandstorms that blow in, completely changing the game. It took me a while to figure out why I could never find any aircraft on the ground...you spawn in the plane already inflight. :O:

I just need to find some way to disable that &@%#*@*$ Windows key, I keep hitting it and taking myself out of the game.:wah:

I'm sooo proud of my laptop, playing the latest games.... but after 30 minutes it gets pretty hot. So I will have to limit my games to half hour intervals, I suppose.

[Betonov]

So good game overall, lousy at the historical part.

Got'cha.

[Onkel Neal]

Played the open beta, great game.
So far my predictions have been accurate: Not much to do with WW1, yet the best Battlefield game so far, easily.

The game play is just pure fun, immersive, tense, yet not overwhelming.

This killed it for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLxErSU_tek


Uninstalled.

[Nippelspanner]

Nah, Neal, don't worry.
This is the first open beta, meaning every little script kiddie feels challenged to be the first one to hack in the most blatant way. I don't understand these low-life creatures myself, nor their motivation, but if you worry that BF1 will be a hackfest, rejoice... it won't.

You'll always have hackers in these games, it is inevitable, but usually EA provides rather good safety measures so you won't really notice them affecting your game.

Give it time.

[Onkel Neal]

I understand, but this is what ruined BF42 and BF2 for me. I won't claim to be a good player, but you can tell when something's up, when you empty a clip into someone and they turn around knock you down with a couple shots.

I will have to pass. Too bad, because I was really thrilled with the game. I won't have any faith that EA or any game company will make the effort to stop this.

[Nippelspanner]

http://i.imgur.com/GEmBuU5.jpghttps://out.reddit.com/t3_52wu1t?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvjOysQ0.j pg&token=AQAAAtfbVxjKIzOELGohn41SEUXVkbmc65clRhLJraEI F_81amHp

[Onkel Neal]

Your picture isn't coming through here, Nips.

[Nippelspanner]

Your picture isn't coming through here, Nips.
Thanks for the info, it did at first. Weird.
Will try to find it again...

Edit: Fixed!

[Onkel Neal]

Cool, 13 million players, that's amazing. It's a great game, if they can cap the cheats. You are probably right, as a beta, EA may not have been concerned about cheats. Let's hope that changes when it is released.

[Red October1984]

I played the Beta. Loved it.

I was really on the fence beforehand but after playing it I'll probably buy it. Given, I'm not going to buy the ridiculous (IIRC) $130 premium edition?

EDIT: Note, now that I CAN play games online.

[Onkel Neal]

Early release and the hacker problem is coming to the surface
http://www.pcgamer.com/bf1-hacks/

[Oberon]

Singleplayer looks quite beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLW4k0a2G8A

[Nippelspanner]

3hrs to unlock, preloading, about to order a fat pizza, coke and hookers.
Inb4 bayonet action! :D

[BarracudaUAK]

Neal,

The one upside about hackers in a beta, is they do show where the potential hacks are.
Which allows a decent dev team to take measures to stop them...

When I started playing online many moons ago... The way you dealt with a cheater/hacker was to, despite the cheats, grind them into powder. No mercy, and focus on them.

I'm slower than I used to be, and I'm out of practice... but the "Barracuda" of old occasionally shows his head. Then the hackers/cheaters try to say I'm the one cheating. :har:


Although, even in fast paced, "console" type games, I usually go to "calm, cool and methodical". Drives 'em nuts EVERY TIME!:D

Barracuda

[biosthetique]

My grand father served 4 years in the trenches as a heavy machine gunner, then came back home in one piece.

This game sure use freely submachine guns and semi-auto rifle like there is no tomorrow. The reality was very different.

It looks like a war fantasy for children to teach them to fall in love with death!...Is it part of a recruiting program?

[Onkel Neal]

Neal,

The one upside about hackers in a beta, is they do show where the potential hacks are.
Which allows a decent dev team to take measures to stop them...

When I started playing online many moons ago... The way you dealt with a cheater/hacker was to, despite the cheats, grind them into powder. No mercy, and focus on them.

I'm slower than I used to be, and I'm out of practice... but the "Barracuda" of old occasionally shows his head. Then the hackers/cheaters try to say I'm the one cheating. :har:


Although, even in fast paced, "console" type games, I usually go to "calm, cool and methodical". Drives 'em nuts EVERY TIME!:D

Barracuda

Thanks, brother, that does sound good. Let me know what you think of the game, I may get it this weekend.

[Nippelspanner]

The Tankgewehr (13x92mm HR) is already my new favorite weapon.
Great fun to hunt with that. :)

http://i.imgur.com/VKOVLNQ.png