Man sacked by Co-op for taking flowers from bin to place on baby granddaughter’s grav

[BossMark]

Man sacked by Co-op for taking flowers from bin to place on baby granddaughter’s grave

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/father-of-seven-sacked-by-co-op-for-taking-out-of-date-flowers-from-the-bin-to-place-on-baby-granddaughters-grave-11364052505926


Bloody scandalous, heartless bastards if you ask me remind me, there's no Co-op near me but there was I would never use it :nope::nope:

[Onkel Neal]

What's a co-op over there? Here it is a community owned business.

[Betonov]

Damn, some people really are heartless basterds.
I mean, I work at a private owned boatyard and we frequently not only take things from the bin (like pallets, pipes that are too short to be fitted anywhere on the product, rubber sheet cuts), we also bring home things that will be used like latex gloves, resin and fibreglass, modeling putty...
And the bosses alow us to get away from it becasue they're the same, except they got us to prepare the loot.

And this guy gets sacked for litterally taking home compost :/\\!!

[Jimbuna]

What's a co-op over there? Here it is a community owned business.

http://www.co-operative.coop/

[AVGWarhawk]

The greater issue here is it sets a precedence. If Mr. X can take outdated flowers then Mr. Y can take outdated whatever. Further, the flowers belonged to him or the co-op? If the co-op then it is seen as stealing. Let's not muddle the water with taking the flower to his grand daughters grave. Sounds harsh...I know.

[Jimbuna]

The greater issue here is it sets a precedence. If Mr. X can take outdated flowers then Mr. Y can take outdated whatever. Further, the flowers belonged to him or the co-op? If the co-op then it is seen as stealing. Let's not muddle the water with taking the flower to his grand daughters grave. Sounds harsh...I know.

Agreed and sad as the whole situation is....the flowers remain the property of the company until handed over to the appropriate party contracted to dispose of them.

[Betonov]

The flowers were also trash. A future compost.
If someone gets an idea that they can take tradeable products just because someone was allowed to take trash then that man is a complete moron and deserves to be fired.
Grown ups should know how to weigh what is needed for the company and what is a burdeon without having to have an example made by some poor man stealing compost.

[HunterICX]

I doubt the bosses kicked him out because of the flowers.

Was it too much to expect from him to ask if he could take the flowers to put on his daughters grave? He did that the first time and they allowed him to take the flowers so why didn't he tried to ask again?

Also the unlike the title claims the flowers wheren't in the bin, he just saw that they where out of date and destined for the bin and with that in mind he took for granted he could just take them without asking first?

[Reece]

Sacking him over it especially with 7 children to support is a bit much in my opinion.:hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

Sacking him over it especially with 7 children to support is a bit much in my opinion.:hmmm:


So he should receive the flowers plus the farm because he has 7 kids? Is that somehow the business/co-ops problem? When is the line drawn? For me, the line is drawn from the get go.

[Betonov]

So he should receive the flowers plus the farm because he has 7 kids? Is that somehow the business/co-ops problem? When is the line drawn? For me, the line is drawn from the get go.

You know where for me the line is drawn, someone that's on the same pay level as this guy ??
Being treated as a bloody human, not some inventory the employers throw out when the there's a small problem. He should receive punishment proportionate to the crime.
Force him to buy them at double price or a days wage. Hell, even a weeks wage would do it.

But sacking him ???
Really ???
And now what, hire some inexperienced new guy that will lower the productivity or better yet, not hire anyone new and just relocate the workload onto the existing workforce and save one whole wage.

This whole case, even with what Hunter wrote afterwards, stinks to high heaven of moronism and sheer disregard to the fact that employees are actuall humans.

[AVGWarhawk]

You know where for me the line is drawn, someone that's on the same pay level as this guy ??
Being treated as a bloody human, not some inventory the employers throw out when the there's a small problem. He should receive punishment proportionate to the crime.
Force him to buy them at double price or a days wage. Hell, even a weeks wage would do it.

But sacking him ???
Really ???
And now what, hire some inexperienced new guy that will lower the productivity or better yet, not hire anyone new and just relocate the workload onto the existing workforce and save one whole wage.

This whole case, even with what Hunter wrote afterwards, stinks to high heaven of moronism and sheer disregard to the fact that employees are actuall humans.

Maybe the new guy with lower productivity will not steal. At the end of the day that is what this is. Theft from a company or co-op. Let the flowers go then what will this employee take next? I stand on the precedence being set.

[DragonRider]

Taking something without asking or getting permission no matter what it is adds up to you opening the door and kicking your own ass out of it.

[BossMark]

I agree he shouldn't have took them, but to sack him no way a warning and a slap on the wrist would and should have been enough punishment.

[AVGWarhawk]

I agree he shouldn't have took them, but to sack him no way a warning and a slap on the wrist would and should have been enough punishment.

Again, precedence. The next guy takes a towel. He is expecting a slap on the hand. The next guy takes a computer. Expects a slap on the hand. So a guy takes flowers. FIRED for theft. There will be no next time guy taking stuff expecting a slap on the hand. Precedence set.

[MGR1]

To add a bit more info, I work in the UK retail sector and what the Co-op did is standard practice. What the guy did is theft, no other way to describe it. It's all about protecting the profitability of the business, and things like "waste", which is what the flowers were, are tightly budgeted.

Mike.

[Rockin Robbins]

Moral of story, children friends? (anybody remember that cartoon?)

Before you take anything from work make absolutely certain that you have written permission from the person with the power to administrate that item, to take it.

Do not assume that you have the right. You do not. You must ask for, obtain and retain concrete evidence that you have been granted the right. You must assume the water is full of hungry sharks seeking your harm.

A job is too important to lose for a couple dollars worth of flowers.