Defiant North Korea fires ballistic missile into sea, Japan protests

[Aktungbby]

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/03/09/950607ae-bd44-46f9-866e-635a929f5d6d/thumbnail/620x350g8/1cd6224516a531493c59d9eea9867ba7/2016-03-09t121134z1748570386gf10000339277rtrmadp3northkore a-nuclear.jpg "WHADDYA MEAN CALLING IT 'FATBOY' II !!!??" North Korean leader Kim Jong Un meets scientists and technicians in the field of researches into nuclear weapons in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang March 9, 2016.
http://www.atomicheritage.org/sites/default/files/Fat%20Man.jpg
(http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/kim-jong-un-media-moments/)the original Fatman Bomb...nuthin good goes outta style??:-?

[Gerald]

North Korea fired two ballistic missiles on Friday, one of which flew about 800 km (500 miles) while the other exploded shortly after launch, U.S. officials said, as the isolated state stepped up its defiance of tough new U.N. and U.S. sanctions.
U.S. officials told Reuters the medium-range missiles appeared to be fired from road-mobile launchers.
One missile, fired from north of the capital, Pyongyang, flew across the peninsula and into the sea off the east coast early Friday morning, South Korea's Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-nuclear-idUSKCN0WJ30V


It is becoming a habit launches them here, maybe a little too frequently to Japan and the US to sleep well.




Note: 2016-03-18

[Oberon]

There's a whole load of THAAD and ABMs in Japan, and some starting to deploy to the ROK, if one of Kims missiles looks like it might be going anywhere near Japan or South Korea then it'll receive a RIM-3 to the face.
Then the launch site will receive its own ballistic missile and since the DPRK doesn't possess ABM technology, that thing will hit.

[mapuc]

There's a whole load of THAAD and ABMs in Japan, and some starting to deploy to the ROK, if one of Kims missiles looks like it might be going anywhere near Japan or South Korea then it'll receive a RIM-3 to the face.
Then the launch site will receive its own ballistic missile and since the DPRK doesn't possess ABM technology, that thing will hit.

Maybe you right, I'm not any expert on this.

I guess these THAAD is somehow like the Iron Dome Israel has-It can calculate if a Mortar or Rocket is about to hit public areas and if so-the Dome kills the mortar or rocket. If yes then the THAAD will only engage the North Korean missile if it a threat.

The next step-I don't think it is in Japan, SK and USA interest to increase the situation by sending a Ballistic missile to wards the area from where this NK rocket came from.

What do I know.

Markus

[Oberon]

THAAD, I think, can intercept targets on re-entry, so it would work that Japanese and ROK radar would pick up the launch and calculate its ballistic arc, if that arc lands within Japanese or ROK territory then the order to open fire will be given. If the missile is still in its boost phase (going up) then I believe that AEGIS warships will be able to intercept with their RIM-161 missiles which can hit objects in Low Earth Orbit (including satellites) which will explode near the missile, shredding the outside which will cause an explosion as the volatile fuel mixture ignites.
THAAD uses a more direct method in that its missile just basically rams the target at high speed, that would probably go after the warhead if it has separated from the missile, although given the relatively small distances involved in a strike on the ROK or Japan, the AEGIS system could probably intercept at the warhead too.

The future will likely bring railguns and lasers to the fore in Anti-Ballistic Missile technology, railguns being able to fire projectiles at ridiculous speeds at or in front of launching missiles, and lasers to melt the missile or warheads skin to the point that it burns up or explodes.

Of course, you load up the ROK and Japan with enough ABM tech to completely defeat the DPRK threat then the PRC is going to get a bit antsy since it also has beef with the ROK and Japan and such defence systems would also annull the Chinese missile advantage. :doh:

[moose1am]

https://d3657kafbyiq68.cloudfront.net/post/upload56ec43575d290.gif

US Special forces sneak into North Korea to play tricks on it's leader.

Hope this works. Ha ha.

[Jimbuna]

Of course, you load up the ROK and Japan with enough ABM tech to completely defeat the DPRK threat then the PRC is going to get a bit antsy since it also has beef with the ROK and Japan and such defence systems would also annull the Chinese missile advantage. :doh:

And that is the crux of the matter I suppose :yep:

Possibly better if tit were the US that brought one down, less temptation/anxiety for the Chinese.

[vienna]

China's Relationship to North Korea is akin to that of a parent with a bratty problem child: he may be a total jerk, but he's your kid, so you got to put up at least a show of supporting him, but, God, you wish you could put the little twit over your knee and give him a right good swatting without looking like your admitting you've raised him wrong...


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[Mr Quatro]

Maybe the missile hit that NK diesel submarine that's missing :o

[Jimbuna]

Maybe the missile hit that NK diesel submarine that's missing :o

CLASSIC...never thought of that :)

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm guessing Kim Jong Un has a small Peter complex.

[Oberon]

It's ok, the ROK invested in a new defence system:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeFxb8RUAAEQA4v.jpg:large

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Will someone tell them skipping a missile like a stone across an ocean isn't an efficient delivery method?

[Aktungbby]

Fat Boy is at it again!:down:http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20160424&t=2&i=1134257839&w=976&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXNPEC3N06Mhttp://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20160424&t=2&i=1134257840&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&sq=&r=LYNXNPEC3N06O
Korea said on Sunday a submarine-launched ballistic missile test it conducted under the supervision of leader Kim Jong Un had been a "great success" that provided "one more means for powerful nuclear attack".
The launch is the latest in a recent string of North Korean demonstrations of military might that began in January with its fourth nuclear test and included the launch of a long-range rocket the next month.

The tests have increased tension on the Korean peninsula, angered ally China and triggered new U.N. sanctions. Analysts say the tests could be part of a bid by Kim to bolster his position in the run-up to a rare ruling party congress in May.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-idUSKCN0XK08U (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-idUSKCN0XK08U)

[Oberon]

USStratCom twitter announces that it has detected 'attempted' missile launches from the DPRK, it has deduced that the launches do not pose a threat to the continental US.

https://twitter.com/US_Stratcom/status/725720635016642561

Probably another great and glorious successful launch from the Supreme leader.

https://media.giphy.com/media/MMiIlUTunJQBO/giphy.gif

[Aktungbby]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2399641#post2399641 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2399641#post2399641) :D A slight update as of 4/24/2016 -it just got worse...:nope: or so we R lead to believe:shifty:

[Mr Quatro]

https://d3657kafbyiq68.cloudfront.net/post/upload56ec43575d290.gif

US Special forces sneak into North Korea to play tricks on it's leader.

Hope this works. Ha ha.

instead of US special forces what if China has rangers like Delta Force to protect their US allies business interest form skipping a beat in ordering goods from China.

Yeah I like that one ... now that I think about it that would make a great movie.

China is almost fed up with the scales of nuclear threats ... just a matter of time :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

I know I won't find much agreement with this, but I would not be at all surprised to wake up one morning to the news that North Korea has launched an all out offensive on the South.

Sure, that would be crazy. But look at their leader and their entire social structure of mass brainwashing.... could happen.

[Oberon]

I guess it would depend on how desperate the DPRK got, if the ruling class found themselves backed into a corner economically and socially then they might well decide to go for broke at Seoul because they have nothing left to lose.

[Platapus]

As long as we don't do something stupid that makes KJU feel that his sovereignty is being threatened, there is little chance he will do anything.

[mapuc]

I have it the same way as Neal.

Heard in the news some days ago, that the NK was ready to stop all these test if USA and SK stopped their military exercises.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

As long as we don't do something stupid that makes KJU feel that his sovereignty is being threatened, there is little chance he will do anything.


Wait, are you saying KJU is a rational person who weighs the situation and makes smart decisions?

[mapuc]

I don't know this KJU in person only from what I read in the news and in places like Subsim.

I doubt that he is suicidal in the way he is does not care if he lose what he has and maybe his life.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

As long as we don't do something stupid that makes KJU feel that his sovereignty is being threatened, there is little chance he will do anything.

Doesn't look like the Chinese will allow him to even if he wanted to.

China will not allow chaos and war to break out on the Korean peninsula, which would be to no one's advantage, Chinese President Xi Jinping told a group of Asian foreign ministers on Thursday.

North Korea's drive to develop a nuclear weapons capability, in defiance of U.N. resolutions, has angered China and raised tension in the region.

"As a close neighbor of the peninsula, we will absolutely not permit war or chaos on the peninsula. This situation would not benefit anyone," Xi said in a speech to a Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-northkorea-xi-idUSKCN0XP05P

[Onkel Neal]

I don't know this KJU in person only from what I read in the news and in places like Subsim.

I doubt that he is suicidal in the way he is does not care if he lose what he has and maybe his life.

Markus


Hi Markus, I have no doubt you are right, Kim Jung Un is most likely not suicidal. However, I draw a noticeable distinction between suicidal and insulated from reality and delusional. He thinks he is in the right, and is likely very confident his forces would win a confrontation--his toadies and political lackies probably tell him every day how brilliant he is and if he wanted to, he could crush South Korea and America. And that's what I think holds the most risk.