UX-791 found?

[McBeck]

Hi all

Saw this article on the Subsim FB group, but the type U1200 and the name UX-791 does not show up on U-boat.net

Anybody got more info on this type or sub?

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/usa-mysterious-nazi-submarine-from-wwii-discovered-in-great-lakes/

[Eichhörnchen]

It doesn't say whether there were any bodies on board.

[Commander Wallace]

The article states there never was any evidence U-boats had penetrated the Great Lakes. Now they have that evidence. The article doesn't say if the interior had been flooded either. Since Lake Ontario is a fresh water lake and free of a corrosive salt content, it should be in good condition. Since divers found it, it must be in relatively shallow waters. I don't know how they could have missed this submarine for all these years.

The article states this was an experimental sub so records on it may be scarce and incomplete.


Thanks for finding and posting the article and link. :up:

[Rhodes]

Type U-1200?:hmmm:

[robbierob2005]

That rusty boat looks russian to me. Think it's a hoax.

[August]

How would an enemy warship manage to get through all the canal locks it has to pass to even get into the Great Lakes?

[Mr Quatro]

Does this new finding have any thing to do with the water pipes in Flint Michigan? :woot:

[AndyJWest]

Other 'news' from the same source:

Texas: 14-year old virgin falls pregnant after flu shot
Man cures himself of cancer by having sex up to 18 times a day
Arizona: Buried dead 'zombie' cat comes back to life after 14 days
Paul McCartney refutes Ringo Starr's allegations that he died in 1966

Obviously 100% reliable then...

[Aktungbby]

Other 'news' from the same source:

Texas: 14-year old virgin falls pregnant after flu shot
Man cures himself of cancer by having sex up to 18 times a day
Arizona: Buried dead 'zombie' cat comes back to life after 14 days
Paul McCartney refutes Ringo Starr's allegations that he died in 1966

Obviously 100% reliable then...

INDEED: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/author/barbara-jennings/ (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/author/barbara-jennings/) another of her gems: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russia-skull-of-adolf-hitler-found-in-joseph- (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russia-skull-of-adolf-hitler-found-in-joseph-stalins-family-heirloom/)stalins-family-heirloom/ (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russia-skull-of-adolf-hitler-found-in-joseph-stalins-family-heirloom/) :-?

[grundler]

It's a Russian K-159. Picture was photoshopped from the one in this article:

http://barentsobserver.com/en/security/2013/08/ten-years-no-plan-lift-sunken-nuclear-sub-28-08

[Aktungbby]

Well that explains the buggy 'no wintergarden' conning tower for a 1943 U-boat. http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm (http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm) and no mention here either. U791 was ordered but never completed...http://uboat.net/boats/nc_791.html ... http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm (http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm) A compromise design of a 600-ton boat called V-300 (XVII, later called U-791) that would reach some 19 knots submerged was proposed and construction started at Germaniawerft but was cancelled when Walter found the design to be too slow and proposed his own version of smaller vessels of some 220 tons. Methinks we done been had!:Kaleun_Mad:

[McBeck]

Well that explains the buggy 'no wintergarden' conning tower for a 1943 U-boat. http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm (http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm) and no mention here either. U791 was ordered but never completed...http://uboat.net/boats/nc_791.html ... http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm (http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm) Methinks we done been had!:Kaleun_Mad:
Yeah I found those as well...but this is hoax...must be.

[xwhiterhinosx]

Hey guys, I found this story which de-bunks that one. Sorry for all who had their hopes up for a cool new sub.
http://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/604527-nazi-submarine-discovered-great-lakes.html

[fumo30]

Everyone with one working brain cell knows that whole story is stupid hoax.

[Aktungbby]

xwhiterhinosx! :Kaleun_Salute: U and grundler :Kaleun_Salute: are sharp-eyed recruits!:Kaleun_Binocular: report to the (we've been)conned-watch crew! ASAP :rock:http://leadstories.com/assets_c/2016/02/900x597xsubmarine-thumb-900x597-521148.jpg.pagespeed.ic.ILIc1HDmAs.jpgvshttp://worldnewsdailyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/sub.jpg Everyone with one brain cell knows that whole story is stupid hoax.
Nice photo editing!:nope: @ Fumo BBY: a little kindness buddy!:shucks: it isn't the one brain cell; it's which brain I got to use it in at my age.:03: I'm just pissed over the hour I spent researchin' this crap!:damn: I had posted on the side-paddle wheeler USS Sable, previously, and there was never an attack on the training carrier.:doh:

[fumo30]

Nice photo editing!:nope: @ Fumo BBY: a little kindness buddy!:shucks: it isn't the one brain cell; it's which brain I got to use it in at my age.:03: I'm just pissed over the hour I spent researchin' this crap!:damn: I had posted on the side-paddle wheeler USS Sable, previously, and there was never an attack on the training carrier.:doh:


OK, I'll keep that statement in my mind.:haha:

[Catfish]

K-159 lies on the sea floor at 240 meters, along with its two nuclear reactors still containing 800 kilograms
of spent nuclear fuel with an estimated amount of radioactivity of some 600,000 Curie.
The waters outside the Kildin island, where K-159 sank, is one of the best joint fishing areas.
Russia has leased the fishing gounds to Norway as far as i know :woot:

http://barentsobserver.com/en/security/2013/08/ten-years-no-plan-lift-sunken-nuclear-sub-28-08

[Commander Wallace]

The stern of the Sub wasn't visible or we might have figured it out earlier although RobbieRob had it pegged. August also figured out the locks. I didn't know if there were locks there or not back then .

[Jimbuna]

The stern of the Sub wasn't visible or we might have figured it out earlier although RobbieRob had it pegged. August also figured out the locks. I didn't know if there were locks there or not back then .

Rgr that.

[U505995]

This is a complete hoax, there is no way a U-boat could have penetrated into the great lakes un-detected. There is only one sunken U-boat in lake Michigan, the UC-97. It was a war prize at the end of WWI and brought into the lakes on tour before it was sunk in 200ft of water off Chicago. It's a UCIII type minelayer and was discovered in the 90's by A&T salvage.

[fireftr18]

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ is a satire news site. It is a well done story. Normally, the stories get outlandish enough that you can tell it's fake. This story maintained a reasonable perspective.

[airwolv]

In Conway's All The World's Fighting Ships 1922-1946 It shows
U-791 launched in 1942
Displacement: 600t/645t
Dimensions: 170 ft 11in oa x 13ft 1in x 18ft.
Machinery: 1 shaft. 2 MWM diesels plus 2 Walter turbines and 2 electric motors, 150bhp/2180 + 75shp = 9.3 kts
Armament: 2-533mm TT (bow sub; 6 torpedoes)
Complement: 25.
Ex- V300

I typed this directly from the book.
But going to other Uboat sites I do not find this sub listed

[Sailor Steve]

U-791 is listed at ubot.net. You just have to know where to look.
http://uboat.net/boats/nc_791.html

Also http://www.navypedia.org/ships/germany/ger_ss_v300.htm

It would seem, however, that the mysterious 'UX-791' never existed. I can't find any reference to that number other than these reports, which seem to be a hoax.

[Aktungbby]

airwolv! :Kaleun_Salute: My post 11Well that explains the buggy 'no wintergarden' conning tower for a 1943 U-boat. http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm (http://uboat.net/fates/losses/1943.htm) and no mention here either. U791 was ordered but never completed...http://uboat.net/boats/nc_791.html (http://uboat.net/boats/nc_791.html) ... http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm (http://uboat.net/types/walter.htm) A compromise design of a 600-ton boat called V-300 (XVII, later called U-791) that would reach some 19 knots submerged was proposed and construction started at Germaniawerft but was cancelled when Walter found the design to be too slow and proposed his own version of smaller vessels of some 220 tons. Methinks we done been had!:Kaleun_Mad:

[Reece]

Yet another true story::yep:
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/bermuda-triangle-ship-reappears-90-years-after-going-missing/

[mapuc]

Yet another true story::yep:
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/bermuda-triangle-ship-reappears-90-years-after-going-missing/

Wonder how much if it is true-I guess the author of the article hear what he or she wanted to hear and filled in the rest.

If true it would have been a world wide story, even if they just found the wreckage of the ship.

Markus

[AndyJWest]

Wonder how much if it is true...
Markus

At a guess, none of it, seeing it is from the same source as the 'UX-791' story.

This (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/florida-zoo-employee-killed-while-attempting-to-rape-alligator/) on the other hand seems entirely believable. :o

[Reece]

:har: How?? :rotfl2:

[Aktungbby]

At a guess, none of it, seeing it is from the same source as the 'UX-791' story.

This (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/florida-zoo-employee-killed-while-attempting-to-rape-alligator/) on the other hand seems entirely believable. :o

A 'croc" of sorry saurian previcious prevarication! :nope:

[Reece]

A 'croc" of sorry saurian previcious prevarication! :nope:
That's a funny way of saying sicko!!!:yep:

[Jimbuna]

U780 to U791 were planned but never built:

U-Boat Emblems of World War II 1939-1945 Georg Hogel page 192.

[airwolv]

According to Conway,s all the worlds ships 1922-1946 printed in 1980. There is no sub type U1200. U1200 Was a type VIIc/41 boat. launched 1943-1944. O which 70 units were completed. More than half the completed boats survived the war.
It is believed that U1200 did not survive the war.

[airwolv]

U791 was launched in 1942. listed as ex-V300. Conways all the worlds ships 1922-1946. Printed in 1980.

[airwolv]

Type VIIc/42 boats 176 unites were ordered but never commissioned. Correct is U783-790.