Iran detains 10 US sailors after ships stopped in the Gulf

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Iran has detained 10 US sailors after their vessels were stopped in the Gulf, a US official told the BBC.
"We lost contact with two small US naval craft en route from Kuwait to Bahrain," the official said.
He said that the Iranians informed the US that the sailors were safe and "will promptly be allowed to continue their journey".
The incident happened near Farsi Island after one of the ships encountered mechanical problems.


Last updated: about 10 minutes ago

[Tchocky]

Huh.

Who started World War III?

[mapuc]

Oberon has started a discussion about this in the -"The all purpose terrorism thread "

Markus

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Oberon has started a discussion about this in the -"The all purpose terrorism thread "

MarkusAh, okay. I didn't even consider that this might qualify as terrorism...

[Kaye T. Bai]

Hopefully the sailors are released quickly and this doesn't turn into a 2007 British Navy-type situation.

[mapuc]

Ah, okay. I didn't even consider that this might qualify as terrorism...

I read about it on a news side went back to subsim and looked for the thread Iran at it again or something. This thread was on page 2.

Should I write about it in that thread or should drop it. I dropped it. If some one else write about it I will make some comment. Later I saw Oberon had made a statement about the incident in the thread I mentioned in my first statement.



Markus

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

I read about it on a news side went back to subsim and looked for the thread Iran at it again or something. This thread was on page 2.

Should I write about it in that thread or should drop it. I dropped it. If some one else write about it I will make some comment. Later I saw Oberon had made a statement about the incident in the thread I mentioned in my first statement.



MarkusI didn't intend to criticize you in anyway. I just found it surprising and little bit odd that this kind of thing is being discussed in terrorism thread as:
1) This is about armed forces of two sovereign states,
2) No one is demanding ransom and,
3) No one is chopping off (or threatening to) someones' heads.

[Oberon]

I tend to dump all Middle Eastern politics in that thread because the way things play out down there will effect the 'War on Terror'(TM) in some way or another.

I guess we could have a Middle Eastern politics thread, but it'd probably just be me posting stuff. :haha:

[Oberon]

Huh.

Who started World War III?

Everyone except Germany. :yep:

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

I tend to dump all Middle Eastern politics in that thread because the way things play out down there will effect the 'War on Terror'(TM) in some way or another.Thank you! Its nice to know what is behind people's decisions. :salute:

I guess we could have a Middle Eastern politics thread, but it'd probably just be me posting stuff. :haha:Yes and at the moment its challenging to find (relevant to us) Middle East politcs news not someway connected to terrorism. :yep:

[Nippelspanner]

Everyone except Germany. :yep:
Maybe... this time... we can have our Endsieg, yes? :stare:

[Oberon]

Maybe... this time... we can have our Endsieg, yes? :stare:


DENIED

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03171/PX14183239MEMORIAL_3171420b.jpg

[Cybermat47]

Maybe... this time... we can have our Endsieg, yes? :stare:

Well, you're on our side these days, so Endsieg all you like :up:

Just don't get any on the carpet :-?

[eddie]

If they return the sailors but keep the boats, is it ok if we sink those boats!?! I'm all for it if it pisses off the Iranians ,lol

[nikimcbee]

Jimmy Carter 2.0

[Torplexed]

It looks like the sailors are to be released. No iranian hostage crisis 2016 so far.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35300019

Earlier, the naval commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, General Ali Fadavi, said he was satisfied a mechanical failure was behind the incursion.
"We have concluded that passage of Americans in our territorial waters was not a hostile passage or for espionage or similar acts," he told Iranian television.
If they return the sailors but keep the boats, is it ok if we sink those boats!?!

Well, we let the North Koreans keep the Pueblo all these years. These riverine boats probably aren't as valuable.

[Jimbuna]

According to NBC the boats have also been returned.

The U.S. Navy confirmed that the sailors had been "safely returned" after departing Iran's Farsi Island at 3:43 a.m. ET aboard the riverine vessels they had been operating when the incident occurred.

They were later transferred ashore by Navy aircraft while other sailors took charge of their boats and continued on for Bahrain, the Navy added in a statement.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iran-frees-10-detained-u-s-navy-sailors-revolutionary-guards-n495526

[Onkel Neal]

Oberon has started a discussion about this in the -"The all purpose terrorism thread "

Markus
That was a mistake, this is the proper thread for this subject.

[STEED]

Iran has released 10 US sailors held for entering its territorial waters, in a swift resolution of an incident that tested newly improved US-Iranian ties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35300019

Panic over.

[Tchocky]

Jimmy Carter 2.0


There's no need to wait for any facts, or even read the article.

[Jimbuna]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35300019

Panic over.

As pointed out in #16 and #17 :smug:

[STEED]

As pointed out in #16 and #17 :smug:

My news is more up to date. :smug: :smug: :D

[Betonov]

Dumb move by Iran.
They could have just escorted the boats out of Irans waters and show them which way to the carrier.
The again, never hurts to take a peak at what the adversary has. And those US navy personel they held, I'd take them for a free night at one luxury hotel in Iran, aggressive marketing

[GoldenRivet]

https://gma.yahoo.com/iran-releases-10-navy-sailors-held-drifting-iranian-101750843--abc-news-topstories.html#

Am i reading this correctly? the original crew of the two boats was transferred ashore and replaced with a new crew? why?

The boat(s) had a mechanical breakdown?

it also mentions in the story that the refueling operation was not carried out

so my assumption is that the boats traveled some distance, the crew was changed out with a new crew, it was clearly not communicated to the new crew whether or not the fueling operation had been completed and it is my belief that they carried on without sufficient fuel and their "mechanical breakdown" is the face saving way of saying "we dun runned out of gas" :/\\!!

[Jimbuna]

And right in the middle of the land of plenty :o:):03:

[vienna]

The Iranian forces who captured the boats and crew are apparently of a rather hardcore religious militant faction of the military and appear to have done this action of their own accord. I rather suspect the power that be in Tehran probably took a dim view of the action and put a swift end to the militants activities. It really serves or served no purpose to irritate the US over two small, inconsequential craft...



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[Onkel Neal]

Dumb move by Iran.
They could have just escorted the boats out of Irans waters and show them which way to the carrier.
The again, never hurts to take a peak at what the adversary has. And those US navy personel they held, I'd take them for a free night at one luxury hotel in Iran, aggressive marketing



Well, if a foreign power with our history has navy boats in your waters, it's a good idea to check them out. Did they really run out of fuel or have a mechanical breakdown? Maybe, maybe not. Iran is well within their right to interdict them.

[Betonov]

Well, if a foreign power with our history has navy boats in your waters, it's a good idea to check them out. Did they really run out of fuel or have a mechanical breakdown? Maybe, maybe not. Iran is well within their right to interdict them.

We have weekly incidents when Croatian fishing boats wander into Slovene waters and vice versa so if we brought in every boat like happened here Slovenia would have more ships than NATO.
That's why I'm not used to anything more than a ''shoo, you're not allowed here''

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, that's reasonable between friendly countries.

[Nippelspanner]

Well, if a foreign power with our history has navy boats in your waters, it's a good idea to check them out. Did they really run out of fuel or have a mechanical breakdown? Maybe, maybe not. Iran is well within their right to interdict them.
The right to interdict for sure - but interdiction must not become interdicktion.
The whole "we demand an apology!" thing (for a "mech. breakdown?") is nothing but "look, mighty iran stronk, puny USA has to beg forgiveness!" which in the end, is a very weak testimony for Iran.
If they would have acted gallantly, the world would have tipped its head at them. But now, they only gave everyone an additional reason to shake their heads at them.
Still, can't wait for the official/true story - if we may ever hear it.

[Stealhead]

Dumb move by Iran.
They could have just escorted the boats out of Irans waters and show them which way to the carrier.
The again, never hurts to take a peak at what the adversary has. And those US navy personel they held, I'd take them for a free night at one luxury hotel in Iran, aggressive marketing

They did what most any nation would have done I'd say. Take a peek at the gear and let the crew go and return the vessels. These riverine boats are not particularly fancy nothing even a fairly poor navy couldn't afford.

Had they been a more valuable Iran would probably have kept them longer. Of course in this case it was obvious that the boats had not entered Iranian waters on purpose. For this reason they played ball.