View Full Version : Mein Kampf to be published in Germany
Jimbuna
12-02-15, 05:57 AM
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf, with critical notes by scholars, is to be published in Germany next month - for the first time since the end of WW2.
The Institute of Contemporary History (IfZ) in Munich says it will print up to 4,000 copies with some 3,500 notes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34980701
I'm wondering if the number being printed will be enough or will there be so little interest said number will be too many :hmmm:
Can't say I've read it and certainly doubt I ever will.
Betonov
12-02-15, 06:07 AM
Actuall interest might be underhwelming.
Most of them will be bought by ''rebelious youth'' and ''aspiring nationalist for this week''
I predict a first week besteller, second week nobody will touch it.
Mein kampf is available on the internet (trough channels forum rules won't allow me to mention), I've read it, it was boring. I'm guessing any normal German interested in this probably done the same and got to the same conclusion.
I've read it, it was boring.
Indeed and I thought also very repetitive. Funny thing, my copy is a english edition, from 1942, printed in England?!:hmmm:
Betonov
12-02-15, 06:41 AM
Indeed and I thought also very repetitive. Funny thing, my copy is a english edition, from 1942, printed in England?!:hmmm:
Know your enemy or sympathizer preparing for the invasion :hmmm:
The worst book I ever tried to read, now in the attic with a good ten years of dust on it.
Rockstar
12-02-15, 07:15 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34980701
I'm wondering if the number being printed will be enough or will there be so little interest said number will be too many :hmmm:
Can't say I've read it and certainly doubt I ever will.
Might be a hit with certain immigrants though.
Bilge_Rat
12-02-15, 07:26 AM
My Dad had a copy, read the english version when I was a teen, never finished it though, it is poorly written, meandering, full of wild theories. Needs a good editor. :ping:
The books written like by Lenin are much easier to read. :arrgh!:
Honestly don't know what the fuss is about, no reasonable person can read Mein Kampf and come away being indoctrinated in Nazism.
Skybird
12-02-15, 07:27 AM
Might be a hit with certain immigrants though.It already is quite popular in most of the ME.
On few occasions even me got greeted by locals who wanted to compliment and flatter me when they learned I am German: they told me I could feel proud to come form the country that brought up Hitler. I even recall one old man telling me the only pity of German history is that our forefathers did not manage to kill more Jews, only "16 million" (sixteen). That was in Egypt.
When I coldly blocked that kind of compliment and indicated that actually I felt insulted and disgusted, most often honest confusion was the reaction. They could honestly not imagine why I would not be proud of this great leader and his glorious deeds.
The latest terror strikes in Paris once again has been painted by all too many Arab mainstream media as a Jewish conspiracy - if they even cared to report the news. Even "moderate" LOL Al Jazeerah.
Nippelspanner
12-02-15, 07:31 AM
The worst book I ever tried to read, now in the attic with a good ten years of dust on it.
...now try 50 Shades of Grey and say that again! :D
Always wanted to read it... just like the bible and the quran but then I always find better stuff to do.
Betonov
12-02-15, 07:51 AM
...now try 50 Shades of Grey and say that again! :D
Always wanted to read it... just like the bible and the quran but then I always find better stuff to do.
Imagine 1000 sexual deviants like in 50 shades, another 1000 murders, another 1000 despots in war, some incest and one hippie and you have the Bible.
The best thing about the Bible is how un-holly it can get :)
Catfish
12-02-15, 08:09 AM
Imagine 1000 sexual deviants like in 50 shades, another 1000 murders, another 1000 despots in war, some incest and one hippie and you have the Bible. The best thing about the Bible is how un-holly it can get :)
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:
But then the self-appointed christs with the biggest mouths here never read it. I am sure those of the "Bible belt" do likewise :03:
Betonov
12-02-15, 08:18 AM
But then the self-appointed christs with the biggest mouths here never read it. I am sure those of the "Bible belt" do likewise :03:
Selective hearing and quote mining. The Bible can be anthing from a rough history book to a masonry manual. Just depends what chapter you read.
Bilge_Rat
12-02-15, 08:21 AM
I have also read parts of the Bible, another book in need of a good editor. Thought the TV version was more entertaining. :ping:
Skybird
12-02-15, 08:33 AM
Selective hearing and quote mining. The Bible can be anthing from a rough history book to a masonry manual. Just depends what chapter you read.
"Just depends on..."
Well, that tells all about this book's quality one needs to know.
Hitler also is a victim of selective quote mining. His actings and behaviour can be seen as anything from extremely charming with the ladies, to rough and racist with the Bolschewists and Jews. Just depends what historical anecdotes you quote. ;)
:88)
Nobody is a noble man already just because he sometimes chooses to forego a mean trick.
Betonov
12-02-15, 09:01 AM
Hitler also is a victim of selective quote mining. His actings and behaviour can be seen as anything from extremely charming with the ladies, to rough and racist with the Bolschewists and Jews. Just depends what historical anecdotes you quote.
you don't get a nation to follow you into death without being extremely charismatic.
Problem with Hitler is that millions of dead are imposible to quote mine.
kraznyi_oktjabr
12-02-15, 09:34 AM
Indeed and I thought also very repetitive. Funny thing, my copy is a english edition, from 1942, printed in England?!:hmmm:There is a copy of Finnish language edition (Taisteluni) in my parents' bookshelf. Haven't read it and most like never will.
My greatuncle got it as Christmas present in 1944. Mother's family had custom of giving books as gifts. Oldest books I'm aware of are from 1850s.
Fahnenbohn
12-02-15, 09:52 AM
:haha:
" Mein Kampf " was forbidden in the Third Reich !
Bilge_Rat
12-02-15, 10:09 AM
talking about Hitler's mental state, much has been written about him, I think the consensus now is that he was lucid until 1943-44 when his mental state and health really started to deteriorate.
But that is not the impression you get from reading "Mein Kampf", again it has been close to 40 years since I read it, but my overriding impression at the time was that the writer had serious mental issues and he wrote the book in the mid-1920s. Releasing the book again will IMHO do more to shatter the Hitler myth than to bolster it.
Aktungbby
12-02-15, 11:30 AM
ODDLY In the United States, the book can be found at almost any community library and can be bought, sold and traded in bookshops.The U.S. government seized the copyright in September 1942 during the Second World War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II) under the Trading with the Enemy Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_with_the_Enemy_Act_1917) and in 1979, Houghton Mifflin, the U.S. publisher of the book, bought the rights from the government. More than 15,000 copies are sold a year.:hmmm: perhaps not so oddly...Mein Kampf was widely available and growing in popularity in Turkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey), even to the point where it became a bestseller, selling up to 100,000 copies in just two months in 2005. In the Russian Federation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia), Mein Kampf has been published at least three times since 1992; the Russian text is also available on websites. In 2006 the Public Chamber of Russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Chamber_of_Russia) proposed banning the book. In 2009 St. Petersburg's branch of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Ministry_of_Internal_Affairs) requested to remove an annotated and hyper-linked Russian translation of the book from a historiography web site. On 13 April 2010, it was announced that Mein Kampf is outlawed on grounds of extremism promotion. Tell that to the Crimeans and Ukrainians:O:[wiki] The worthy :huh: tome (obviously) has been published in India since 1928 and sold over 100,000 copies. But there's no accounting for taste on the subcontinent...http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/26/14/2915614200000578-0-image-a-59_1432648310246.jpg
...now try 50 Shades of Grey and say that again! :D
I could not get pass the health warning on page one..Reading this book could make you blind.
:03:
I think I'll stick with Das Kapital. :O: :haha:
Eichhörnchen
12-02-15, 12:36 PM
I've looked but cannot find... who posted this in The Funny Picture Thread a while back, was it Platapus?
http://i.imgur.com/cn5DDVI.jpg
http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/adolf_funny_rabbit_ears_The_funny_side_to_Hitler-s550x426-22859-580.jpg
An interesting footnote to "Mein Kampf" is the fact a future California US Senator was sued by Hitler and his publishers for printing a fully footnoted and cited edition of the book in the US. From a Los Angeles Times 1988 article:
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-14/news/mn-42699_1_mein-kampf
Cranston would wear the lawsuit loss as a badge of honor throughout his political career as the man who took on Hitler and the Nazis before the war and who warned of what was to come. Cranston went on to become a very respected senior member of the Senate and Hitler, well we all know what became of him...
<O>
Hitler, well we all know what became of him...
He became radicalised by a radical Imam, so I hear. :hmmm:
Odd, I heard Hitler listened to the Imam and left, saying "That guy's nuts!!"...
<O>
Bilge_Rat
12-02-15, 01:59 PM
An interesting footnote to "Mein Kampf" is the fact a future California US Senator was sued by Hitler and his publishers for printing a fully footnoted and cited edition of the book in the US. From a Los Angeles Times 1988 article:
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-14/news/mn-42699_1_mein-kampf
Cranston would wear the lawsuit loss as a badge of honor throughout his political career as the man who took on Hitler and the Nazis before the war and who warned of what was to come. Cranston went on to become a very respected senior member of the Senate and Hitler, well we all know what became of him...
<O>
great story, I vaguely remember Cranston when he was a Senator but never knew that story.
Catfish
12-02-15, 03:31 PM
:haha:
" Mein Kampf " was forbidden in the Third Reich !
No it was not. Everyone had it in his library, though not all read it.
Rockstar
12-02-15, 03:44 PM
hmmm, all of a sudden 4,000 copies of a new edition of Mein Kampf hitting the streets. Who will purchase these books? Could this be a tracker book like 'The Catcher in the Rye" used to locate and wake up sleeper assassins?
"Mark David Chapman who murdered John Lennon, and John Hinkley the man who attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan but failed were both found with copies of The Catcher in the Rye.
After killing John Lennon on December 8th, 1980, Chapman dropped the gun and proceeded to take out a copy The Catcher in the Rye, and calmly started reading, while waiting for the police to arrive. When police entered the apartment of John Hinkley, they found a copy of the book on his coffee table.
Also, Chapman told police, “If you want to know why I murdered John Lennon, read The Catcher in the Rye.”"
Jerry Fletcher
Betonov
12-02-15, 03:49 PM
Yeah right, more conspiracies.
hmmmmmmm
[welding anti tank traps on the border]
Fahnenbohn
12-02-15, 05:52 PM
Everyone had it in his library, though not all read it.
"A. Hitler's book had a so unequal value that German newspapers, during the few years following 1933, were forbidden to publish on their own initiative any passages from Mein Kampf." (Hans Fritzche declaration in Nuremberg, IMT, XVII , 141).
This book was never considered neither as a Bible nor even as a breviary.
swamprat69er
12-05-15, 02:07 PM
I found Mein Kamph to be very dry reading right along with the very popular (in some peoples' eye) Bible, which makes a good door stop.
Betonov
12-05-15, 02:41 PM
I found Mein Kamph to be very dry reading right along with the very popular (in some peoples' eye) Bible, which makes a good door stop.
Do you live in a castle and need it for the main gate :hmmm:
http://i.imgur.com/XsAgveD.jpg?1
This is trebuchet ammo, not a door stop
swamprat69er
12-05-15, 02:45 PM
It works good for pressing leaves, too.
Jimbuna
12-06-15, 08:59 AM
It works good for pressing leaves, too.
I no longer have any trees in the rear of the property so I won't be bothering.
Eichhörnchen
12-13-15, 02:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/mER3iPZ.jpg?1
I believe Hitler had another private struggle... with haemorrhoids. If his farmers were not chafing so in 1941, making him irritable, he may never have decided to invade Russia and the outcome of the war could have been very different.
http://i.imgur.com/JzdZmX5.jpg
Bruno Ganz showed perfectly the rictus of pain often seen on the Fuhrer's face, which I think could only have been caused by his throbbing bum nuts, and having only one bollock meant that they would've taken almost the full force of Stauffenberg's bomb under the table, making him even more cross.
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