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Mubutu
10-27-15, 07:42 PM
And give me some info on what it is, i suspect its a UZO but not really into these things.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u35/reyern/kikkeert/IMG_2998_zps6aylie8v.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u35/reyern/kikkeert/IMG_2997_zpsubx9eldm.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u35/reyern/kikkeert/IMG_3001_zpsvixeufrd.jpg

Kptlt. Neuerburg
10-27-15, 09:21 PM
Welcome to Subsim Mubutu!:Kaleun_Salute:
Well that certainly looks like a UZO (U-Boot Zieloptik) or in English Submarine Target Optics to me. Are there any other markings on it other then what are in the photos you've posted?

Mubutu
10-27-15, 09:25 PM
No other markings. It was traded for a carton of tea in Hamburg in 1946-47, would be fun to know if I can trace history of it further.

Curious if the few numbers it has on it means anything, 255 production number?

Aktungbby
10-27-15, 10:02 PM
MUBUTU!:Kaleun_Salute:HAH! a persistant hunt-found under "WWII CARl zeiss 7x50 binoculars with hell/dunkel switch": Turns up a rare, WW2, German, U-Boat, "U.D.F., 7X50, blc" (Carl Zeiss), Binoculars! A very, heavy duty, rare type of WW2, U-boat binoculars, mounted in place, in the conning tower of the sub! These were built to withstand the crushing pressure of the surrounding seawater during the subs dive; The "Hell, Dunkel" switch moves smoothly but does not appear to change any filters or shades. £1400 (yours is in rougher shape but send Neal a bit of the proceeds!) :salute:http://images.craigslist.org/00303_jbwaTojF545_600x450.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00q0q_h51noS8RLEA_600x450.jpg<note the flip open sight for swift alignment of the optic. Here's another:http://www.opticalrepairs.com/images/opt-rep1.jpg

Kptlt. Neuerburg
10-27-15, 10:57 PM
Hard to say if 255 is the production number or if it has some other meaning, which is very possible. If it is the production number then with it being as low as it is, it could be pre or early WW2 and given the condition it's had a very hard life. Shame there isn't any other markings because if there where it could of at least told us which type of U-Boat it was used with.

Aktungbby
10-28-15, 12:34 AM
The lack of an open sight and the red paint job are an anomaly as well. the term blc means CarlZeiss, emq or rin would mean CarlZeissJena as on Mobutus optic-w/o 3 letter designation. Others: dpv Zeiss Ikon A.G., Dresden dpw Zeiss Ikon A.G., Berlin dpx Zeiss Ikon A.G., Stuttgart :hmmm: Mobutu's low serial # and the use of the entire logo instead of a war-time 3 letter designation( there were a hundred binocular manufactures-each with a three letter designation) suggest a prewar U D F. A lot of variety: http://www.binoculars-cinecollectors.com/U-boat_binoculars_2.pdf (http://www.binoculars-cinecollectors.com/U-boat_binoculars_2.pdf)

Dowly
10-28-15, 06:50 AM
Hey Mubutu,

Could you check if there is a serial number on this part, but the one on the front end:
http://i.imgur.com/Naz4X1S.jpg

It is possible that the "255" refers to U-255, which was surrendered intact to the British.

I also found similar pair of UZO numbered with "4" (U-4 survived the war, was scrapped) and "19" (U-19 was scuttled in 1944, makes sense to take such equipment with you).

Though, I also found "1328", which doesn't match any known U-boats. :hmmm:

The "hell/dunkel" switch is for bright/low light conditions.

danasan
10-28-15, 07:13 AM
You may want to get in touch with this guy here:

http://www.fernglasmuseum.at/administrativ/impressum.html

He is also in contact with Dr Hans Seeger (https://www.google.de/search?q=Dr+Hans+Seeger&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CB0QsARqFQoTCIm25oiR5cgCFUgGLAod8bAK0w&biw=1280&bih=678), who writes books about binocs. Maybe they can help.

Aktungbby
10-28-15, 09:19 AM
He is also in contact with Dr Hans Seeger (https://www.google.de/search?q=Dr+Hans+Seeger&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CB0QsARqFQoTCIm25oiR5cgCFUgGLAod8bAK0w&biw=1280&bih=678), who writes books about binocs. Maybe they can help.
INDEED! http://www.binoculars-cinecollectors.com/html/body_german_p1_.html (http://www.binoculars-cinecollectors.com/html/body_german_p1_.html) EDIT: call or E-mail the Zeiss's achive guy directly Phone: +49-3641-64-2759
Email: wolfgang.wimmer @zeiss.com (do-not-reply@zeiss.com)

Dowly
10-28-15, 09:56 AM
The blc code for Carl Zeiss Jena was adopted in early 1941, so these are likely pre-1941. :yep:

Now you just need to find the serial number. :up: