Why do we love submarines ?

[Kapitan]

Many of us here are "naval nerds" and we have our special boats that we love and we also tend to have our own era that we like to talk about.
Obviously I am a big fan of Russian design and built Ships and submarines and my era is the cold war to modern day so i cant comprehend to much when people ask me about sailing ships like the 3 masted schooner or the frigate.

So what is it that drives you to love Naval bits? well for me I have had a good sense of what systems are what given that I have been able to jump borders so to speak what attracts me to Russian designs rather than the western designs (I am from the UK) is the design element everything looks different than anything any one else produces.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5667/22071520155_ba5b561e93_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zCoiYX)Delta IV SSBN (https://flic.kr/p/zCoiYX) by Blair shaw (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/), on Flickr
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For example there is nothing like this in the west design wise so thats the reason i prefer the Russian stuff.

So what got you guys into it former service? general interest? perhapse family? do explain :subsim:

[Oberon]

Good question really.

I do recall I got a book on submarines from my Aunt and Uncle when I was a young lad, good book too, explained about sonar and active sonar, SINS and the like.
Played Silent Service on the NES when I was about the same age too, but oddly my interest always seemed to drift more towards modern submarines, especially after reading the abridged version of To Kill the Potemkin. Then got Fast Attack for the PC and watched Hunt for Red October, and after that was Sub Command and Subsim.

What do I like about it?
The stalking mainly. I'm not fussed if I don't fire weapons at all, but stalking an enemy submarine, getting a good solution without it detecting you in return. That's good fun. :yep:

[Aktungbby]

what systems are what given that I have been able to jump borders so to speak :up: Same here! I love boats; sail every week; and play the sims; When I SCUBA ...I am the submarine's engine & navigator. No two ways about it! A one man Nautilas; The mask to see with; the fins to propel with-no battery skooter for me...yet; the tank and regulator for respiration with; lights to see with; depth, nitrogen timer, air guage and compass to calculate time at depth: essentially in a self-contained neoprene mancave with 30 lbs lead ballast 100 feet down (hey at least I'm well insulated:timeout:) at 32 degrees... only it's pressurized nitrogen not CO2 that's the problem. Like the game, everything, especially at night is ongoing: must be monitored constantly and no errors of judgment are advisable...hypothermia, bends, embolism or nitrogen-narcosis being the primary concerns.:stare: Time limit: 25 minutes....

[Armistead]

Since a kid, always loved history. Not sure why I like subs so much over other games, guess it's because the tactics are so different.

Sure wish they'd make a Silent Hunter COOP where we could have several players in one sub.

[Oberon]

Dangerous Waters has that but it's modern sub, would be interesting in a WWII boat, definitely. Have had some fun multi-crewing a Kilo with Raptor and Arclight before, even if the Russian sonar screen drives me crazy. :haha:

[Betonov]

They're a succesfull underdog.

Underpowered, underarmed and undermaned. No match for the glorius capital ships and carriers.
But they did the job remarkably well. And were feared. It was a game of chess, not a game of guns.
Tacticaly of course. Even between capital ships was a chess game on a strategical level.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I've always liked subs because they're a bit unconventional since subs are effectively boats designed to go underwater for the purpose of sinking enemy vessels and to do so without being detected by the enemy. Subs are to the Navy as snipers are to the Marine Corps and the Army, their purposes are similar to sneak, stalk and kill without being discovered and if they are discovered, to escape and evade.

[vienna]

Freud would have a theory on why we like subs, but most of us wouldn't want to hear it... :haha:


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[Aktungbby]

^ Well a torpedo is a torpedo after all! My ID is governed by a well aimed 'ETO' whilst my SUPER-EGO stops me from sinking hospital ships and neutral shipping.:D

[Mr Quatro]

So what is it that drives you to love Naval bits?

So what got you guys into it former service? general interest? perhapse family? do explain :subsim:

Without sounding gay ... I think it's the men that volunteered for submarine service knowing full well
that a chance does excist for a one way trip straight down due to accidents or naval combat.

They have to be more intelligent than the normal sailor (officers or enlisted men) and they have to be loose and not uptight.

of course I'm a little prejudice with my grandfather having
served diesel and nuc's back in the 60's and early 70's.

Plus all of the submarine movies have a bit of romance about them.

The submarine itself is just a huck of steel with wires and stuff inside. The men add the element of surprise.

The body is dead without the spirit and so is a submarine with good men.

[CCIP]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like submarines because they make for good simulation games :D When it comes to submarines themselves, I always thought that they were, in a way, completely insane. Putting a few dozen people in a metal tube with a lot of very volatile equipment and weapons is crazy, and it fascinates me just how far we as people are willing to go to find creative and unusual ways of killing each other. However, all of this makes for some really fascinating scenarios and human interest stories.

I was a fan since first playing Silent Service at age 9 :yep:

[Nippelspanner]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/772/22059235132_062000c067.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zBim5d)
Can't put in words why exactly I fall for submarines... but that picture you posted kinda sums it up. There is a certain flair around it and it gives me goose bumps... and makes me wanna play DW again.

[Buddahaid]

^ Well a torpedo is a torpedo after all! My ID is governed by a well aimed 'ETO' whilst my SUPER-EGO stops me from sinking hospital ships and neutral shipping.:D

Sink 'em with my pink torpedo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfhphrmKdsg

I just grew up with a family history of civilian Mare Island shipyard employees. Mare Island was pretty much all about subs post war and I attended the launch of SSBN-642 USS Kamehameha in 1965. I find them fascinating as earthbound spacecraft if nothing else, plus I'm also attracted to the lurching naval sniper aspect.

[Onkel Neal]

Good thread. For me, A submarine is the only kind of naval vessel that truly masters the sea. It can sail about on the surface and also deep below whenever it chooses.

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/geeWE4L.jpg

WW2 sub movies were always my favourite war films, hence my first sims were the Silent Hunter series, but it's the "open world" nature of the submarine simulator which appeals to me: you can go anywhere you want, whenever you want, attack whomever you wish and with whatever submarine you choose.

Also, even though I'm not into strategy games, I do enjoy having to be mindful as captain of the management of the vessel.

[Red October1984]

Freud would have a theory on why we like subs, but most of us wouldn't want to hear it... :haha:

:har::rotfl2::rotfl2:

But anyway....

I'm not sure I could tell why submarines in particular stick out to me. I love history, engineering and tactics. I like learning about things that go and how complex systems work. Submarines present situations that make you think. This website is about 90% of why I came to like them.

We had an old scratched up disk of SH2 that I popped in one day. I really liked it....decided to learn more. Sadly, i'm not as involved as I'd like to be anymore. I probably haven't played SH in a year now. I get so busy with classes and work I don't have much time to even breathe anymore.

[Aktungbby]

SCUBA ...I am the submarine's engine & navigator. No two ways about it! A one man Nautilas; .... everything, especially at night is ongoing: must be monitored constantly and no errors of judgment are advisable

I do enjoy having to be mindful as captain of the management of the vessel.

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[Jimbuna]

I like the need for stealth and the challenge of maintaining the position of hunter and not becoming the hunted.

[fireftr18]

There is the "romanticism" that comes from the mysteriousness of submarine service.
From a gaming perspective, a submarine simulator works well. Normally, a submarine operates by itself, without contact with anyone else. The isolation fits in with someone who sits on the computer, alone, and plays the simulation. It also includes elements of many popular genres. It does simulate the actions needed to complete the tasks needed to make a successful shot. It contains elements of strategy games. It has elements of first person shooter. The historical perspective ties it all together.

[swamprat69er]

I was a fan since first playing Silent Service at age 9 :yep:
I have been a fan of subs since watching the Silent Service for two years. 1957 and 1958
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050061/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

[vienna]

I have been a fan of subs since watching the Silent Service for two years. 1957 and 1958
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050061/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4

Same here. That TV show and all the sub movies shown of TV in the post-war years...


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[swamprat69er]

In 1957, I used to suffer through the hockey game at the neighbours' house (we didn't get a TV until 1958 in August) and then the last 1/2 of SS.

[vienna]

As a toddler, I remember being fascinated by the small crowds of people standing outside the windows of stores that sold TV sets. A lot of them couldn't afford sets of their own, so they would watch the sets in the display windows; some stores had little speakers on the outside wall so they could hear the shows. The first TV set my family owned was a sort of combo unit with the B&W TV set, a phonograph, and a radio (with all those great frequency bands) all in a rather large and heavy cabinet. The rabbit ears sat on a little platform attached to the back of the cabinet. One thing I remember distinctly was the large amount of heat given off by the unit and, looking through the ventilation holes in the back, the eerie red glow of the vacuum tubes...


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[swamprat69er]

One thing I remember distinctly was the large amount of heat given off by the unit and, looking through the ventilation holes in the back, the eerie red glow of the vacuum tubes...
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You didn't want to put a candle on top of the TV set. The heat would soften the wax big time.

[U505995]

Perhaps we like subs because they are long, hard, and full of seamen?

[vienna]

Perhaps we like subs because they are long, hard, and full of seamen?

...und, how (if you'll pardon the term), 'long' have you had these 'feelings'?...


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[Jimbuna]

Perhaps we like subs because they are long, hard, and full of seamen?

Never heard that one before.

[Mr Quatro]

Perhaps we like subs because they are long, hard, and full of seamen?

Whats with this we stuff ... :woot:

[Betonov]

Never heard that one before.

So a whale couple swim trough the ocean and spot a whaling boat.
The male says to the female ''that's the ship that killed my parents, lets swim under and blow air out of our airholes so the boat overturns''
She's all for it and they both manage to overturn the boat which it sinks.
They spot some survivors in the water.
''Let's eat them to finish the job'' says the male
''No'' answers the female ''I went with the blowjob but I'm not swallowing the seamen''

[vienna]

He's here all week, folks! Try the veal and tip your waitresses!...


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[CaptainRamius]

The idea that death lurks everywhere, and nowhere, silent but deadly...

[Arnold]

When I was a kid, I remember watching the Disney Film, "20,000 Leagues under the sea", by Jules Verne. The idea of hiding under the waves of the ocean to explore was cool to me. Later, I remember watching a t.v. show that had a sub with a huge window in the bow. I've been reading and playing sims about subs ever since.

[Sailor Steve]

I remember watching a t.v. show that had a sub with a huge window in the bow.
Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea. It was originally a movie as well.