Problem with double installation of SH3

[Fahnenbohn]

Hello everyone,

Here is my problem : I have 2 installations of SH3 on my hard disk. The first is the stock game ("vanilla", as we like to say here), and the second is the GWX 3.0 version. When I launch GWX, i can't play a career or a single mission. There is an error message saying "Too many officers ! Go to barrack".

Here is the screen before trying to launch a patrol in a career :

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/09/21//15092107245318069013599762.png (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15092107245318069013599762.png)

Does anyone have a solution to that ?

Thanks in advance.

F.

[Sailor Steve]

The picture only shows that all your crew are exhausted. I don't know why it would show that before starting a patrol.

As for "Too many men!", just go to the barracks screen. You'll see a notice that you are only allowed so many men of each type, and that you have one too many of one type or another. Simply dismiss one of those men and try again.

It's been my experience that this happens when using SH3 Commander's "Realistic Crew" function when starting a new career. This gives one or two more of one type or another, which when starting without Commander means that you have more than the stock game allows.

[Fahnenbohn]

But in my case, the game allows me to have ... 0 men ! See on my screenshot.

[GT182]

I say there's a conflict between the 2 installations. Try renaming your vanilla install to Silent Hunter 3 Vanilla. Do you have SH3 Commander installed? That needs the path set to your GWX 3.0

Vanilla SH3 is just the basic broken sim that we had to play until the patches came out and them the mods to "fix" the game. Most everyone will tell you to just keep the vanilla as a backup install, and play GWX or one of the other mega mods. You'll enjoy SH3 even more. ;)

[Sailor Steve]

But in my case, the game allows me to have ... 0 men ! See on my screenshot.
Oh, yeah. I didn't catch that the first time. Odd. :-?

[HW3]

I assume you used multi sh3 to keep both installs completely separate, so they do not influence each other.:hmmm:

[Fahnenbohn]

I think I've found the problem : there isn't the basic.cfg file in data/Cfg. :shifty:

So I have added it, and now, when launching a single mission, there are 11 error windows with this message :

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/09/22//15092211210118069013600869.png (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15092211210118069013600869.png)

Then, the game crashes.

I'm stuck....

[Zosimus]

What's the problem? I don't get it.

Since only GWX is screwed up, just erase all of that, copy vanilla over GWX, and then redownload GWX and install it.

[Fahnenbohn]

I've made the copy of the stock game with Silent Front End (S3F), and it has created a file in My Documents called GWM. For my stock game, the file is SH3 in My Documents.

By re-installing GWX, I think i'm going to loose the link between GWX and the folder GWM in My Documents.

All the problem is that question : how to link one installation with one folder in My Documents in order to save careers and single missions ?

[Fahnenbohn]

@ Blitzkrieg :

Sorry, but I'm just trying to understand how this is working. I don't pretend to be an expert, otherwise I would not ask questions. I'm not blaming your work, I'm not saying that you have mad a bad tool. I simply like to know how something is working before using it. I hate to follow instructions and not understanding what is happening. That's my right.

Maybe your explanations are not precise or clear enough. So let some other people explaining me what's wrong.

Nonsense. S3F does not create such thread. From where do you take that information?


So, there is a folder in My Documents called GWM, I didn't create it. And when copying the stock game with S3F, it has asked me a name for a new folder, and I called it GWM.

So maybe it is SH3.exe which has created it. But I couldn't know this !

[Fahnenbohn]

So, now, i'm going to operate as Zosimus is advising. We will see ...

[Fahnenbohn]

By the way, I don't have the answer to my question :

Why is there a folder called GWM in My Documents ?

Or maybe didn't I read enough again ??!! (!) ((?))

And remember : english is NOT my first language.

[Fahnenbohn]

9. S3M - Silent Hunter III MultiSH3Copy - new: in "Settings"
Select the installation that you want to run this routine with and then you can make a copy of that very installation and have it installed so that the "MultiSH3"-functions are applied, i.e. that your "My Documents\SH3"-path is changed from SH3 to whatever you like - it only has to be a THREE-DIGIT-long combination of chars/numbers, i.e. GWX, NYG, LSH, 123, 999, ...

So, why are you saying that S3F doesn't do that ?? the Multi-Copy function is a part of S3F, isn't it ?

I've made the copy of the stock game with Silent Front End (S3F), and it has created a file in My Documents called GWM. For my stock game, the file is SH3 in My Documents.

You answered :

Nonsense. S3F (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=212462) does not create such thread. From where do you take that information?

Moreover, the SH3 folder has not been changed into GWM, but a new folder GWM has been created next to the SH3 folder.

[Fahnenbohn]

You said me to read before asking. I'll say you to think before writing. And make a synthesis, instead of multiplying the links in all directions.

All the best,

F.

[Fahnenbohn]

1. So, I have re-installed GWX. Now, I still have the 11 windows with the error message, but the game is not crashing anymore. Does anyone have an idea on where this problem comes from ?

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/09/22//15092211210118069013600869.png (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15092211210118069013600869.png)

2. And, as I was thinking, I've lost the link with the GWM folder situated in My Documents. So, I'm asking : what is the file which allows to do the link with GWM in My Documents ?

[Tycho]

1. So, I have re-installed GWX. Now, I still have the 11 windows with the error message, but the game is not crashing anymore. Does anyone have an idea on where this problem comes from ?

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/09/22//15092211210118069013600869.png (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15092211210118069013600869.png)
A dial in dials.cfg looking for this menu item and didn't find it.

[Fahnenbohn]

A dial in dials.cfg looking for this menu item and didn't find it.

Perfect, that's it. I've re-uploaded the menu_1024_768.ini. Problem solved. Thank you so much, Tycho ! :yeah:

So, I am still very puzzled for the second point...

[GT182]

Fahnenbohn, don't be disappointed. SH3 can be daunting at times on getting it to work properly. Back when it first came out we all had problems. It takes time but you get it all sorted out. Just be patient.

I played from the time UBI's patch came out for SH3 so we could run it with out crashing. It took me a few months to get the understanding of the sim, but finally I could play it and offer advice. I've been away from it for so long that I'll be a newbie all over again. I had the SH5 bug and switched over to it. Now I'm trying to get SH3 setup and return to the Silent Hunter roots..... and SH3 was the stepping stone for us all.

[Fahnenbohn]

Thank you for your encouragments, GT182.