2 Journalists shot dead on live Television.

[HunterICX]

Having seen the footage of the shooting made by the shooter himself this is pretty sick :nope:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/index.html

[eddie]

Sad and sick all the way around, heart goes out to the victims families.

On another note, it is nice to hear that the shooter has shot himself, hope he doesn't make it.

[Dowly]

I can't believe none of them saw the guy standing 2 meters away trying to figure out why the pistol wont fire. :huh:

[Oberon]

Such is life in glorious Arstotzka.

[CCIP]

Condolences to the families and friends and colleagues of the victims :( What struck me as especially senseless was that according to the station's manager, the people he killed were never his colleagues and were hired long after he was dismissed. So it can't even be said to be a revenge killing, just a spiteful terror attack (in the literal sense of the word).

Also on that, it sounds like the shooter is still alive (if just barely).

[HW3]

He's dead.
Vester L. Flanagan II, the suspect in the slayings of two WDBJ-TV journalists, died at a hospital Wednesday afternoon of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Franklin County, Virginia, Sheriff Bill Overton told reporters.

[Betonov]

Too bad, I hoped he'd be a conscious vegetable for the rest of his life.

[August]

It's coming out that the killer has a long history of anger management problems and that he would often claim discrimination when he'd get disciplined or fired for it.

I'm probably going to get flamed for it but I think this is the natural result of all the race baiting and rabble rousing that's been going on lately.

[Nippelspanner]

I'm probably going to get flamed for it but I think this is the natural result of all the race baiting and rabble rousing that's been going on lately.
Totally with you on that one...
This whole race-debate thingie has become a joke.

[mapuc]

Totally with you on that one...
This whole race-debate thingie has become a joke.

-this is so terrible I feel for those who has lost a love one

@ August
I agree on your statement.

Markus

[CCIP]

I'm probably going to get flamed for it but I think this is the natural result of all the race baiting and rabble rousing that's been going on lately.

I actually have to agree with you to a point - at the very least, there is a definite problem on one side of the political spectrum that's not unlike the problem on the other: people constantly being told that they're victims of systemic persecution, and that they and everybody else have to be angr about it. I don't even have the issue with the systemic part, but the problem is that yes, I think it's important to acknowledge that some sections of social liberals have successfully convinced themselves that anger and outrage is productive, and have encouraged this anger. The problem is that anger is not productive, and worse, there is always that 0.000001% of people who are unable to control it to this extent. If you keep telling them that yes, they should be angry at the group that's responsible for their persecution.

So in that sense, I actually do partly agree. I think this seems to be very closely similar to the Charleston shooting this year, in the sense that the shooter seems to have picked up some of his cues from partisan media discourse and targeted a group of people he didn't know personally but believed to be behind his persecution, just from the opposite side of the spectrum. But I think both extremes are equally bad.

[Stealhead]

He had worked with both victims they where not random targets. Seems he had worked as a reporter at the station and been fired. He said that the woman had called racial slurs and the man had reported him to HR after one day working with him.

Of course I doubt those things occurred but seems that he blamed his being fired on them.

[Herr-Berbunch]

This is a complete surprise to me, a friend who posted the original video on FB, with half a dozen or so shots fired followed by confusion in the studio. Not for one minute did I think the couple onscreen were the intended victims, just innocent bystanders. :-?

[Wolferz]

Unless you're dead.:dead:

Race should never be mentioned due to the fact that that card has two faces.

Whittle it down to the lowest common denominator where it belongs...

It's senseless human on human violence and murder.:down:

[Onkel Neal]

It's coming out that the killer has a long history of anger management problems and that he would often claim discrimination when he'd get disciplined or fired for it.

I'm probably going to get flamed for it but I think this is the natural result of all the race baiting and rabble rousing that's been going on lately.

You're right.

And where are all the folks who identify these acts as terrorism and hate crimes?

[Cybermat47]

Race should never be mentioned due to the fact that that card has two faces.

Whittle it down to the lowest common denominator where it belongs...

It's senseless human on human violence and murder.:down:

Exactly :nope:

[AngusJS]

You're right.

And where are all the folks who identify these acts as terrorism and hate crimes?I think the main reason for the murders are the mental instability, not any supposed victimhood inculcated by the left. And the fact that this country is drowning in guns. Actually, strike that. The correspondent should have been open-carrying while she was doing the interview, it's her own fault. :roll:

I wouldn't call this terrorism or a hate crime because the motivation is enmity that the murderer held towards his victims personally. Compare that to the church shooting - the murderer didn't know his victims, but only killed them because of their race.

[Oberon]

You're right.

And where are all the folks who identify these acts as terrorism and hate crimes?

Sorry, the PC police are unavailable at this moment in time, please hang up and try again later.

[Oberon]

TBH, I think the only reason this made news outside of America is the fact that it happened on live television, there was a shock factor to it. Otherwise there's little news to it.

[BossMark]

Maybe just maybe one day they might do something about the gun law........but I wont hold my breath.... :nope:

[Oberon]

Maybe just maybe one day they might do something about the gun law........but I wont hold my breath.... :nope:

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[Nippelspanner]

Maybe just maybe one day they might do something about the gun law........but I wont hold my breath.... :nope:
But... but... criminals don't obey gun laws...
http://i.imgur.com/OdjAVVJ.png

[U505995]

I don't believe in such strict gun laws in the UK or Europe, but a guy shouldn't be able to just go out, buy a pistol and shoot people. I believe there should be a back round check anywhere you can buy a gun and that back round checks should also extend to a person's mental history.

[Jimbuna]

A tragic and senseless loss of life.

[Betonov]

I don't believe in such strict gun laws in the UK or Europe, but a guy shouldn't be able to just go out, buy a pistol and shoot people. I believe there should be a back round check anywhere you can buy a gun and that back round checks should also extend to a person's mental history.

Any such action will draw the far right out and they will claim that it will turn the US into Europe and people will believe that.

[August]

I don't believe in such strict gun laws in the UK or Europe, but a guy shouldn't be able to just go out, buy a pistol and shoot people. I believe there should be a back round check anywhere you can buy a gun and that back round checks should also extend to a person's mental history.

Any such action will draw the far right out and they will claim that it will turn the US into Europe and people will believe that.

The "far right" are not the official defenders of our 2nd Amendment, plenty of leftists support RKBA as well. There are those on both sides of the political spectrum however trying to make this a partisan issue but that is not the case.

The other thing is that a background check was done on the killer when he bought his firearm. Any firearm bought through a FFL will have a BC done before the firearm can be sold.

Extending the check to a persons mental history is already done but it only works if any issues in that area are reported to the national database but Patient care privacy advocates tend to oppose any more intrusive checks.

[Commander Wallace]

The only words for it are senseless and tragic.:nope:


Condolences to the families of reporter Alison Parker and cameraman Adam Ward including WDBJ anchor Chris Hurst and station producer Melissa Ott, the respective fiancés of both news people.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery for Vicki Gardner who was also shot, but emerged from surgery later Wednesday.