Silent Hunter 4 & Windows 10

[Ensign Dunsel]

Good Afternoon, Admirals, Captains and Commanders!http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/salute.gif

I gave myself the rate (or is it rank?) of Ensign, because my tactical intelligence needs work. You have to watch the Star Trek episode about the Mark V to find out where the ‘dunsel’ comes from.

However I feel about myself as far as tactics, I am pretty good with the computer, but I have a problem. I searched this august forum for information about installing Silent Hunter IV on Windows 10, but I did not find anything. If there is, I apologize and please point me to the right place.

Now for my problem, I upgraded my computer from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Silent Hunter had installed without any problem on Windows 7. But when I tried to run Silent Hunter 4, nothing happened. Nothing was showing in the Task Bar. Windows 10 has a really good Task Manager and lo and behold, I find Silent Hunter 4 running and using up CPU cycles and memory. The strange part is there were no disk activity.

So I uninstalled Silent Hunter 4 and re-installed and tried again. This time I made sure that the compatibility setting is changed to Vista. Same thing happened. Tried it again with Windows XP service pack 3, ditto. I found on this forum that I needed to delete registry keys pertaining to Silent Hunter 4, as well as delete the file in the document folder. I did so and re-installed it again. This time an updating Silent Hunter 4 came up, but the same thing happened, running in background with nothing in the Task Bar. Now they say that a good definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again getting the same results and I am close to that mark.http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/bangrt2.gif

You are probably wondering why I keep spelling out Silent Hunter 4. The reason is I have Silent Hunter 3 on the same computer and it runs without a hitch.

Here is probably where my knowledge of computers come in. I suspect that Windows 10 changed the way video files are run. The reason I believe this is Silent Hunter 3 had been modded such as the introduction video is not enabled. If I am right, is there a way to disable the introduction, such as adding “/nomovie” to the end of sh4 executable?

Now let me tell you what I am using:
Intel Core2 Quad cpu
8 GB of memory
Windows 10 (64 bit)
Nvidia GT730 with 2MB memory

I realize that I am probably blazing new ground. If so, I intend to keep trying new ideas as they come. Perhaps, I am insane.:88) But I consider it insanity that an older program will run and the newer one won’t.

Fair Winds,
Ensign Dunsel

[SilentPrey]

I'm unclear; have you tried not using compatibility mode? I've not made the jump yet so I have no 10 experience but in 7 I've had more success getting games to run if I do not use compatibility mode.

Also, are you allowing the included DirectX to install when you do your reinstalls? The original Ghost Recon will run on Windows 7 64-bit with DirectX 11 but only if you also run the DirectX 9.0c install included on the disc. I use that example because it's my most recent experience trying to get an old game to run from disc, not because it's particularly similar to SH4. I'm a Steam user for SH3 and 4 and I typically just use the 'Verify Integrity of Game Cache...' button rather that actually doing a reinstall. I'm lazy and it's worked every time so far. (Knock on wood.)

Best of luck. Sorry I don't have anything more to offer, and thank you for being the trailblazer on the upgrade.

[Aktungbby]

Ensign Dunsel!:salute: After a considerable silent-run!

[fred8615]

Runs just fine on my Win 10. I upgraded from 8.1 though. That might make a difference. :hmmm:

[Rockin Robbins]

Good Afternoon, Admirals, Captains and Commanders!http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/salute.gif


Now for my problem, I upgraded my computer from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Silent Hunter had installed without any problem on Windows 7.

Fair Winds,
Ensign Dunsel
O crap, Ensign, you just upgraded from a Balao to a Tambor! I recommend that nobody even consider upgrading until we can tell what manner of beast Windows 10 really is. Much of what we have learned so far (and it will be at least six months until we can make any reasoned overall judgment) is bad.

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=N3Q_o&m=3mVC1cMzE2xsuk2&b=qCVCJdL.BDqAy67krLYggQ

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=N3Q_o&m=3mVC1cMzE2xsuk2&b=cbo.P9QqYyqYc.B8prNRMw

This is a guy whose sober judgment I respect and he makes the supreme effort to maintain his composure and not just flame Microsoft crispy though these two videos. They show what and how Microsoft does to turn Windows into Facebook. Those easily nauseated might refrain from watching these videos. Please use discretion if there are children or pets in the room.

[Sailor Steve]

I realize that I am probably blazing new ground. If so, I intend to keep trying new ideas as they come. Perhaps, I am insane.:88) But I consider it insanity that an older program will run and the newer one won’t.

I'm not sure what your problem might be. I installed Windows 10 and SH4 runs just fine.

I would now like to ask everyone to stick to the topic, which is Ensign Dunsel's problem with SH4. Please do not turn this into a thread on the ins and outs of Windows itself. We have a whole forum just for that, with two Win10 threads already going.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=235

[Rockin Robbins]

Why, I believe I've just been flamed. Does anything smell burnt to you?:hmmm::hmmm:

Takin it to the other thread...:D

[Ensign Dunsel]

Good Evening, All! I fixed it, but I am not sure which method works.

First, I regret the delay in responding. I was upgrading my wife's computer to Windows 10, and hers is much slower than mine (she doesn't mind, she hates computers!).

Second, let me make some apologizes. Right after I posted, I found the other thread. Perhaps I missed it (more likely, I am an ensign after all), or things happened pretty quickly when Windows 10 came out. Nevertheless, I sincerely apologize to the moderator and all of you for posting another unnecessary thread.

Now here is what I did, and I did them together so I don't know which worked. First, I noticed that on Silent Hunter 3, there was a check mark on "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting", which wasn't there on Silent Hunter 4. Second, during all the reinstalling that I did, I didn't register the software. I did so. And now it works. Which one did fixed it, I really don't know.

IMHO, I really like Windows 10 for two reasons. First, I was in the Google environment and I did not like the fact that Google wasn't giving me the option of turning off the pooling of my information. Second, every release of DirectX gets better and better. But that's just me.

I would like to thank those of offered me suggestion and encouragement.

Fair Winds,
Ensign Dunsel

[Ensign Dunsel]

Sailor Steve,

Again, I am sorry. I jumped to the end and completely missed your thread. I normally follow rules and instructions, and I missed yours. I wish to retract that last part.

Ensign Dunsel.

[Haukka81]

WIN 10 64bit PRO here.

Works like dream!


Much better than my ex- win 7 ultimate :rock:


Easy to install, just set your privacy settings after install.

And if that is not enough you can order custom made tinfoil hat from me. Only 999,99 euros , special Stealth coating, makes your brains invisible to 99% of NSA's brain scan tech. (works better inside u.s.a, placebo effect is strong in there because tiberium in terrain (info from www.C&C_Harvest.nod)

Order soon, be master of privacy ! :har:

[Rockin Robbins]

Win 7 until they pry it from my cold dead fingers here!:haha:

It's the last Windows that doesn't dumb down a computer to a cell phone. I have a cell phone. I like my computer better.

[Sailor Steve]

Sailor Steve,

Again, I am sorry. I jumped to the end and completely missed your thread. I normally follow rules and instructions, and I missed yours. I wish to retract that last part.
No need. You asked for help. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm glad you got it working. :sunny:

[Webster]

Win 7 until they pry it from my cold dead fingers here!:haha:

It's the last Windows that doesn't dumb down a computer to a cell phone. I have a cell phone. I like my computer better.

same here, thanks for the links, shocking stuff there and I think you are right, they want to make your computer like a cell phone now.

I have two computers with reservations to get win 10 but after seeing what its recording of my activity and storing at Microsoft for them to sell and use or get stolen by hackers, im not upgrading and im warning everyone I know not to either. I was going to wait to see if it had any operating issues first but now im not even caring "how" it works if its collecting data on me like that.

maybe if they undo all that stuff to make it secure I might give it a second look, but then if its just a tweaked version of 8 (which some say it is) then I don't want it anyway

[Rockin Robbins]

I say give 'em six months to back off their Windows is Facebook kick and for the gurus to uncover everything we don't know about yet and to tell us how to defang it and it might be time to take another look at Windows 10.

UEFI bothers me a lot. This is a monopoly company trying to close the door on any competition, keeping them from installing on someone else's (our) set of hardware.

Microsoft got in big trouble for a lot less in the early 2000s and I think its time to point the blowtorch in their direction again. I look for Europe to do the heavy lifting on this one (as usual and that's depressing) as they did in opening the door for Chrome and Firefox to have equal status with Internet Exploder. Now Edge (have to come up with a derisive name for that:woot:) is doing much, much worse, while forcing Windows users to use a cell phone app for their Internet access. That's not cricket and I don't think we should tolerate bullying like that.

[Webster]

well in October is the full release so by January we should have lots of comments and solutions about stuff by then. right now with this "limited release" its just maybe half a million people so far, once 15 million start using it we will know better.

my brother is using it (after tweaks) and he says he likes it but he had windows 8 so he had nothing to lose by trying it.

[lexloma]

...First, I noticed that on Silent Hunter 3, there was a check mark on "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting", which wasn't there on Silent Hunter 4...

I checked that box on properties of my shortcut and back in business!

Thanks Ensign!

[Fish40]

Win 7 until they pry it from my cold dead fingers here!:haha:

It's the last Windows that doesn't dumb down a computer to a cell phone. I have a cell phone. I like my computer better.


I'm with you RR:up:

[james_nix]

My only change was that I had to run sh4.exe as admin.

[Harmsway!]

.......

Also, are you allowing the included DirectX to install when you do your reinstalls? The original Ghost Recon will run on Windows 7 64-bit with DirectX 11 but only if you also run the DirectX 9.0c install included on the disc. I use that example because it's my most recent experience trying to get an old game to run from disc, not because it's particularly similar to SH4. I'm a Steam user for SH3 and 4 and I typically just use the 'Verify Integrity of Game Cache...' button rather that actually doing a reinstall. I'm lazy and it's worked every time so far. (Knock on wood.)

Best of luck. Sorry I don't have anything more to offer, and thank you for being the trailblazer on the upgrade.

Yes, that is exactly it. I had the same issue as Ensign Dunsel because I thought I can skip the install of old versions of DirectX. I had to get my disc and install DirectX 9.0c to get it to show on screen.

[Sailor Steve]

One more time: This thread is for people having problems getting SH4 to run on Windows 10. There are now two threads in the PC Software forum on the OS itself. Please stay on topic.

[Rockin Robbins]

And that's the end of the thread.:doh:

[majidb]

After using the above noted tip about ticking off the graphic box it worked for me. I am just leaving it at plain W10 compatibility as that works. To use UBM mod I did two things. One I used the JG thingy to load the mod but noticed that no files were in the single section etc. So I copied all the games to the single in the data section and they worked. Now I don't know the exact terminological but maybe you get my drift or someone can re-write this more technically:D.

[officerharris]

Good Evening, All! I fixed it, but I am not sure which method works.

First, I regret the delay in responding. I was upgrading my wife's computer to Windows 10, and hers is much slower than mine (she doesn't mind, she hates computers!).

Second, let me make some apologizes. Right after I posted, I found the other thread. Perhaps I missed it (more likely, I am an ensign after all), or things happened pretty quickly when Windows 10 came out. Nevertheless, I sincerely apologize to the moderator and all of you for posting another unnecessary thread.

Now here is what I did, and I did them together so I don't know which worked. First, I noticed that on Silent Hunter 3, there was a check mark on "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting", which wasn't there on Silent Hunter 4. Second, during all the reinstalling that I did, I didn't register the software. I did so. And now it works. Which one did fixed it, I really don't know.

IMHO, I really like Windows 10 for two reasons. First, I was in the Google environment and I did not like the fact that Google wasn't giving me the option of turning off the pooling of my information. Second, every release of DirectX gets better and better. But that's just me.

I would like to thank those of offered me suggestion and encouragement.

Fair Winds,
Ensign Dunsel

I checked into the issue above and (Ensign Dunsel) is correct, the fix for this issue is to place a check in the box for "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting" do this by right clicking on the SH4.exe then select properties then select the compatibilities tab then place a check in the box for "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting" also at this time you should make sure you are running the program as an administrator, if not then check that box located at the bottom as well. then click apply and ok, and your done. Good Hunting! :salute:

[Aktungbby]

officerharris! after a long silent run!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Welcome Aboard harris :sunny:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome to SUBSIM OH :up:

[aotino]

Well I recently upgraded from Windows 8 to 10, and I can't get SH4 to work. However, it was not on my computer to start with. I just bought the SH4 CD - so its all brand new. Clicked on all the recommended prompts as I installed it. When I hit the game application - nothing happens - can't get the game to play. Anyone got any suggestions? Not very computer savvy so go easy.

[aotino]

Hey guys,

I figured it out. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled it, but did not load up "Game Shadow" which came with the game, and which I loaded the first time. I didn't know what it was nor had I ever heard of it, but it sounded like something problematic - so I nixed it this second go around. I did make sure that "Disable display scaling on high DPI" and "Run program as game administrator" were both checked. I also, at the end of installing, checked the box that asked if I wanted to "Run the Game," which I also did not do the first time. SH4 started right up!! Hope that helps anyone having difficulties.

Best,
Alan

[TorpX]

Well done!

:salute:

[sithlordmaligant]

I can not see the compatability in the properties when i click properties i just upgraded to windows 10 and can not run sh4

[swdw]

For some reason, with 16GB in my machine it would just go to a black screen after the intro videos. Then I tried the 4GB patch, and it works fine. When you have lots of memory, there may be a problem with the OS moving parts of the game to a memory address that's too high- which keeps it from running unless you apply the 4GB fix first. So instead of being able to run it and having it CTD because of the patch not being applied, it just never runs at all.

And BTW, you do not need CFFexplorer any more to do this. NTCore has released an easier to use utility for this called 4GB patch
Here's the link
http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

[Rockin Robbins]

Wow! I found CFF Explorer to be dead simple so that must be press button: WHAM!

And welcome aboard swdw, after a very long run. Good to have some old-timers around here.

[swdw]

Wow! I found CFF Explorer to be dead simple so that must be press button: WHAM!

And welcome aboard swdw, after a very long run. Good to have some old-timers around here.
Yep, that's how it works. Don't even need to install it.

And thanks for the welcome back.

[wireman]

One more time: This thread is for people having problems getting SH4 to run on Windows 10. There are now two threads in the PC Software forum on the OS itself. Please stay on topic.

I have been away a long time so windows 10 and SH4 were new and might as well have been new to me. I installed SH4 and tried to run it with no success.

"Carp," I said to myself.

"I'll go to SUBSIM, those guys know everything," said I.

"Good idea," me replied.

Well...long story short, nothing helped. I probably got glossy eyed and went right by the answer. I then searched on the tubes...a lot of alchemy, but no straw to gold.

Out of frustration, I set the computer display to 1028x768 and ran SH4. It worked. I then set the in game graphics to 1920x1080 and it continued running. Huzzah. I exited the game and reset the computer display to 1920x1080 and restarted the game. It worked again. And again, and again...

I copied the game and renamed copy for future supermod and tried to run it with no joy. Carp. Then I did the same as the above paragraph and it worked like a charm.

If someone else figured this out and posted; disregard this post. If this helps someone else then my good deed is done and I don't have to drag some old lady across the street.

[Aktungbby]

wireman!:salute:aftert a seven year silent run...and a few months! :salute:

[wireman]

Had to disable the windows 10 hot keys for non-interrupted game play. So far, so good.

[dangu]

SH4 is working pretty well on my Win10 notebook:D. Except when it crashes sometimes:/\\!!. Saving the game often is a good solution there.:hmmm::)

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim dangu :sunny:

[slipf18]

On Windows !0:

I was running the Steam version of SH4 with uboat missions. Everything worked great. Playing for over a month not one single crash.

Then I downloaded SH4 Gold from Amazon because I wanted to try out some mods. I unchecked that box mentioned above and run as administrator. Program seem to work as little as I have played. I loaded a career file from when i was on Steam (was shocked they showed up). Everything seemed right. So I tried to save as a different name. Game crashes. Did this twice.

Any ideas?

[Aktungbby]

dangu!:salute:

[Al Lowe]

I don't know if anyone else has run into this problem. SH4 has been running pretty good for me under Windows 10. Until a couple of days ago. Suddenly I could not load any of my saved games.

What I discovered was there had been a critical update of Windows at about this time. I used System Restore to restore it to a point before the update. I could still not load my recent saves, but my older ones did work.

Has anyone else had this problem?

[propbeanie]

I have not had issues with SH4, but I'm not playing it on Win10 anymore. But everything else I have that is on Win10 has been having issues for like the last 3 or 4 rounds of updates... They've gone and turned Win10 into WinMe and/or Vista - I can't tell who's behind the curtain just yet. But I've quit using Windows 10 for anything I deem "important". An SH4 "Save" file seems "delicate" enough anyway, without throwing Windows update issues at them. My guess would be that the old files you can get loaded are from a few weeks ago, and the newer ones that won't load are from the first round of trouble Windows Update had. Just a guess though... sorry.

[Onkel Neal]

I just installed SH4 on my Win10 laptop and the game would not start (even thought the Steam menu item showed it as "Running"

Here's what worked for me

Find your Steam version of the sh4.exe file.

Right click the sh4.exe icon, select Properties

On the Compatibility tab, Check Disable Display Scaling on high DPI settings. Apply and Ok.

Restart the game.

[propbeanie]

I can not see the compatability in the properties when i click properties i just upgraded to windows 10 and can not run sh4

Missed you amongst all the traffic there sithlordmaligant, and you were the last post on the page and slipped through the cracks... Anyway, you'll probably have to re-install the game, since an upgrade of an OS usually doesn't do most of the apps much good - if you hadn't figured that out by now. Just leave out the Game Shadow stuff, and see which method of screen resolution fixings works for you, as noted above for a few of the others. As for my Win10 woes, I think MS finally got their "security" stuff straightened out, and my computer isn't "thrashing about" anymore.

[CoffeelinFine]

Doesn't work on my Win10 laptop and I've tried everything mentioned in this thread lol.

It works fine on my Win8.1 desktop though so not a huge deal.

[Al Lowe]

My desktop turned out to have numerous corrupted files that had to be replaced. This was indicated by problems I was having elsewhere on it. Once I got that straightened out, SH4 started working properly again.

So far, it's working fine on my laptop as well. Both computers are running Windows 10.

[cr2016sh]

Para windows 10 Yo tube el mismo problema y mi solucion fue.Archivos de Juego: Carpeta SH-4 . exe+ Clik secundario- Propiedades+ Clip Compativilidad+ Ejecutar en modo compatibilidad para todos los usuarios (haran falta permisos de administrador) Windows XP ( Service pak 3 ) Yo tengo monitor asi que hay que activar el Desabilitar el ajuste de escala de pantalla si se utiliza la configuracion elevada de ppp. Esa es la unica manera de que me funcione desde que instale Windows 10. Por esa tonteria durante 6 meses no pude jugar. Espero que le ayude a alguien.

[PL_Andrev]

Has somebody experience to run UBM add-on at W10?
SH4 works fine, but after installing UBM there is a problem to start the game.

[jimbob]

I've got new PC after x-mas.
i7 6700K, 16GB ram, GTX 1080 with
Acer Predator XB1 32¨monitor, 4k and G-Sync.
OS is Windows - 10 Pro because I need to run DAWs. Reaper and Cubase etc.

Now, I can install from CD and run SH4 just fine, allthought its v 1.0.

However, I can not patch to 1.4 or install the Uboot addon CD that
would patch it to 1.5.

I've tried all the compatibility options.
Installed directX 9 too...

Any tips?

[Captain Dave]

With Win 10 you have to install SH4 in a folder other than Program Files or Program Files(x86). This will let you overwrite and tweak SH4 to your hearts content. I have a folder with my name in the USERS folder. There I have SH4, mods, pics, and other personal stuff.

Hope this gets you going.

[jimbob]

Since windows Vista, I've never installed programs on C: drive.

Had a go installing SH3 and only got error 1628, won't install.

:/

I need to find my SH5 disk next.. :D

[l02turner]

Howdy, I have been running SH4 for several months just getting used to the commands, etc. One thing I have noticed is torpedos not doing as much damage as I thought they were capable of. For instance, I thought 1 torp would sink a Destroyer of the Fletcher class size. But in SH4 it can take 2 or more to sink a Jap destroyer when I am in a Narmal or Gato class US Sub.
Was I being too optimistic in my view of torpedo capability? (Yes I know I am not shooting Fletcher class ships) ;-)
Thx

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Rockin Robbins]

Howdy, I have been running SH4 for several months just getting used to the commands, etc. One thing I have noticed is torpedos not doing as much damage as I thought they were capable of. For instance, I thought 1 torp would sink a Destroyer of the Fletcher class size. But in SH4 it can take 2 or more to sink a Jap destroyer when I am in a Narmal or Gato class US Sub.
Was I being too optimistic in my view of torpedo capability? (Yes I know I am not shooting Fletcher class ships) ;-)
Thx

:Kaleun_Salute:

That's not a Windows 10 issue at all. For some reason when Ubi was setting up the zones for a destroyer, they put a nearly indestructable nose on them. In real life a down the throat shot hitting the nose was the end of the destroyer. In the game you get a magnificent explosion and water spray, then the DD charges out of the spray at full speed toward you. It's very bad for your heart.....

[CapnScurvy]

For those that are using this thread and still having questions, please take a look at this thread.......[TEC] Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=228888). This thread is over on the SH4 Fleet Boat Mods Workshop. I don't wish to highjack this thread, but as I've read through it I couldn't help in feeling there's things a Windows 10 user should still do to make his system preform as well as it should. With my system, Windows 10 was a brand new install....not an upgrade from a previous OS (between Windows 7 to 8.1). This install has quirks, yet without extra Properties page tweaking the game runs flawlessly. It should not make a difference how you upgraded to Windows 10, but there are things you need to know when you do.

Large Address Aware is a large part of it, so is knowing what to do with .NetFramework, and the DirectX 12 that's on the OS.

Just thought I'd bring it up.

[wally007]

hello all. still trying to get this to work on my surface. if anyone has any advice

tried so far

downloaded the gold edition through the subsim link to give them some props
installed in default directory, without the x86 program files directory, in my user directory
run as administrator
no scaling high dpi setting
16 bit color
compatibility as win xp, then 7, then vista
main cfg file tried "No" to full screen, No to everything
changed my screen res to 1024x768

all have same result, game does not even seem to attempt a launch. torpedo is not even running hot in the tube.

please any help, all help is appreciated. if someone got this working on their surface pro, lets trade surface pros!

thank you in advance

[propbeanie]

Someone in the FotRSU thread has it going... But I don't remember which tablet or OS exactly. It's been several weeks since they mentioned their hardware...

[leongt]

I have SH4 working great with Win 10 64-bit with not having to set the exe to Win xp compatibility mode and that includes the Titan mod but it's the gold edition.

[Stefos]

Hi everyone,

I've been gone from this forum for years and am now back.

I recently bought a new PC with Win10 & have a 1080 Nvidia card.

I installed SH just fine but now it won't even open in a truncated 1024 X 768 window!

I did a regedit and check to find all SH 4 registries and found none.
I even cleared the Prefetch files that obviously state "silent hunter" in them.

I feel as though I'm going to have to buy this game via Ubisoft download but don't want to as it's $30 for the SH 4 Gold edition.

Can anyone assist me please?

I have both the U.S. & U.K. versions of this game and I need to get the 1.4 patch for the U.S. version only.

Much obliged and thank you!
Stefos

[Jimbuna]

A few options:

http://www.patches-scrolls.com/silent_hunter4.php

https://www.fileplanet.com/175733/170000/fileinfo/Silent-Hunter-4:-Wolves-of-the-Pacific-v1.4-Patch

https://www.gamewatcher.com/games/silent-hunter-4-wolves-of-the-pacific/downloads

Welcome to SubSim :salute:

[propbeanie]

Welcome to SubSim Stefos! The 'modern' Windows OS is very 'jealous' of certain areas of its hard drive. Do NOT install SH4 into a 'protected' area such as Program Files (x86), which is the default location in the game's installer. You can refer to CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635), where he discusses his Windows 10 install and update, Silent Hunter 4 install, and the use of LAA. You could probably drop down a couple of clicks in the page scroll gutter, down below where his picture of the Windows Settings page is, and start reading from about where he says:

"Two things need to be stressed before installing the game.

First, allow Windows 10 to update Automatically to get the latest updated files.

Secondly, keep your Silent Hunter game install out of either the "Program Files", "Program Files (x86)", or the "ProgramData" folders. The reason is to avoid the handicap Windows uses on us when a program/game is defaulted to install in one of these folders. Windows won't let you change the properties of the program/games loaded in these folders because it thinks you'll screw something up. Or, it tries to prevent computer corruption if these programs are changed in some way. If your planning to add content to your game (like a modification through JSGME, or JSGME itself, or a memory helper like LAA).....you're changing your original game files. Believe me, this old game didn't expect to be treated like a "problem waiting to happen" by the OS......so don't install it in these folders. You'll not need to change the game files to "Run as Administrator", or any other setting, if you just install it as follows. Newer programs/games that are designed to work with Windows 10 are fine to be installed in these folders.....but not older ones."

Once you have the game installed elsewhere, you should be able to run it OK, but you definitely need to get the install to at least the v1.4 update. There are a few (just a few) updates available for v1.4, and most mods out there are for v1.5 Uboats. But, there is still at least one regular member on here who still uses his v1.4 regularly...

[Stefos]

A few options:

http://www.patches-scrolls.com/silent_hunter4.php

https://www.fileplanet.com/175733/170000/fileinfo/Silent-Hunter-4:-Wolves-of-the-Pacific-v1.4-Patch

https://www.gamewatcher.com/games/silent-hunter-4-wolves-of-the-pacific/downloads

Welcome to SubSim :salute:

Welcome to SubSim Stefos! The 'modern' Windows OS is very 'jealous' of certain areas of its hard drive. Do NOT install SH4 into a 'protected' area such as Program Files (x86), which is the default location in the game's installer. You can refer to CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635), where he discusses his Windows 10 install and update, Silent Hunter 4 install, and the use of LAA. You could probably drop down a couple of clicks in the page scroll gutter, down below where his picture of the Windows Settings page is, and start reading from about where he says:

"Two things need to be stressed before installing the game.

First, allow Windows 10 to update Automatically to get the latest updated files.

Secondly, keep your Silent Hunter game install out of either the "Program Files", "Program Files (x86)", or the "ProgramData" folders. The reason is to avoid the handicap Windows uses on us when a program/game is defaulted to install in one of these folders. Windows won't let you change the properties of the program/games loaded in these folders because it thinks you'll screw something up. Or, it tries to prevent computer corruption if these programs are changed in some way. If your planning to add content to your game (like a modification through JSGME, or JSGME itself, or a memory helper like LAA).....you're changing your original game files. Believe me, this old game didn't expect to be treated like a "problem waiting to happen" by the OS......so don't install it in these folders. You'll not need to change the game files to "Run as Administrator", or any other setting, if you just install it as follows. Newer programs/games that are designed to work with Windows 10 are fine to be installed in these folders.....but not older ones."

Once you have the game installed elsewhere, you should be able to run it OK, but you definitely need to get the install to at least the v1.4 update. There are a few (just a few) updates available for v1.4, and most mods out there are for v1.5 Uboats. But, there is still at least one regular member on here who still uses his v1.4 regularly...


Thank you for your kindness gentlemen......I will retry installing this game.

What a pain in the neck on Win 10.............oh man.

[propbeanie]

It's actually a bit of a bother in anything that's Windows XP SP-3 or higher. It's just that it gets a bit worse with each Windows interation... Unfortunately, my grandmother never warned me about this when I was a lad... :03:

[hachiman]

Hi Guys.

Just installed SH4 Vanilla form my old DVD in W10. Also have patched to 1.4. There is no exe on my desktop, but the old Gameshadow Icon. I have went into the folder where SH4 is installed and tried to run the exe from there and nothing happens. Not even a hint it's trying to start.

Any help appreciated.

[propbeanie]

Which "exe", the GU.exe or the SH4.exe? There is also an SH4.ico file, so if you don't have Windows displaying file extensions, and you are "sorting" on alphanumeric, ascending, it will be the first SH4 in the list...

[hachiman]

Tried them all.

I've now bought it from Ubisoft Store vis digital download and nothing happens when I click on any of the exes inside the folder or the shortcut on Desktop. I can't even seem to change compatibility via this way s the options missing unlike the DVD version.

[propbeanie]

Let's do this then, and point you at CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635) thread. He had just gotten himself a new computer and installed Windows 10 on it, and Silent Hunter 4. You might be putting the game into "Program Files (x86)", which can cause issues, since Windows "protects" that folder and doesn't allow certain changes to take place. The Capn also discusses the use of LAA, which allows the SH4.exe to use more than 2 gig of RAM. Try reading through that and following his advice there...

[Hambone307]

Ok, I have read through this thread and am unsure if we are still asking questions here or if we are going to scurvy's thread. If so, feel free to slap me in irons for this question.

I have successfully installed SH4 and JSGME. I have it running and can load into a game with my mods. The issue though is that after about 10 minutes of real time, my game crashes to desktop. I attempted to play the game about 5 different times after going through the hoops to get it to run and ended up shelving it out of frustration as to avoid damaging a rather pricey gaming computer....

Any ideas as to what may be the issue?

Note: I have not changed my mod load order since I first started playing on my windows 7. (I keep a picture saved showing what worked after ironing out the issues those years ago.)

Edit: I forgot to ask my question. (been a long day)

[propbeanie]

Naw, this is a Silent Hunter 4 and Windows 10 thread, and that's what you're dealing with, so leg irons are not needed... only manacles... :salute: :lol:

Now,
1. What is your mod list then... ??
2. Did you run the game OK without mods after first getting it installed?
3. Where did you end up installing the game?
4. Where did you get your copy from? DVD, Steam, or some other download?

[hachiman]

I am sorted. Changd compatibility to W7 and disabled display scaling on high DPI settings and it's working. Thanks for your time.

[Ed]

Will pass this on for what its worth.

I purchased a Dell 8900 W10, 24RAM, Raedon 480(I think) i7-7700, 256 SSD to replace my 6 yr old Dell 8300 W7(a great machine for me). I tried loading SH Gold and the opening video worked but the first screen and all others came up about half. Top half of monitor was empty. So I could never get down to Options and graphics on the first screen. After much messing around I went into my Raedon graphics card and took off scaling. Now game played with a full screen but picture quality was a bit dull. I also changed display to 1920x1080. Went back to Windows and tried my TW "Atilla" game and it came up fine but with scaling off a bit dull so I put scaling back. Fine picture. Then I loaded SH Gold again. To my surprise it came up full screen and just fine, clear graphics. Im not sure if scaling was involved or it was being able to get to "Options" and changing the display to 1920x1080 but I think that is what did it not the scaling which is back on.

BTW, does anyone know how to get "Carriers at War" up on W10. A quite old game but I don't see any carrier games out there since tat one.

[mw775]

I bought an Alienware computer with Win10 already installed. I tried several of the suggestions throughout these threads with no success so, moving on, does anyone know of a submarine simulation, preferably WWII, that WILL run on Win 10?
Thank you

[hauangua]

I bought an Alienware computer with Win10 already installed. I tried several of the suggestions throughout these threads with no success so, moving on, does anyone know of a submarine simulation, preferably WWII, that WILL run on Win 10?
Thank you

Hi mw775
I have sh3-4-5
And all work good
I have windows 10 64bit
:salute:

[Onkel Neal]

hauangua, are your versions of SH3, 4, 5 on the DVD or are they Steam?

[hauangua]

hauangua, are your versions of SH3, 4, 5 on the DVD or are they Steam?

Hi Neal
SH3 DVD
SH4 Steam
SH5 Gold Edition downladed by ubisoft

[cdrsubron7]

I bought an Alienware computer with Win10 already installed. I tried several of the suggestions throughout these threads with no success so, moving on, does anyone know of a submarine simulation, preferably WWII, that WILL run on Win 10?
Thank you


Welcome to Subsim, mw775. Happy to have you with us.

SH4 and SH5 will run fine on Win 10. I've not played SH3 in quite awhile, but I've seen it commented on that Sh3 will also run on win 10. Don't give up on them quite yet. :D :up:

[Hambone307]

Prop, I have the steam version (cringe worthy, I know). My game ran without mods, but I didnt play it for more than a few minutes and then kinda forgot to run it again for a longer period of time. Apparently my mod list has changed, forgot that tidbit. I was running TMO with a few others but have since switched to RFB. The switch was made with a clean install.

RFB2.0 with Patch
RSRD RFB V575
ISP2.8


Edit: If anyone wants to know computer it is as follows:
MSI GS63VR
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX1060
Intel i7-7700HQ
16gb DDR4

Due to works schedule recently I have been tackling this for a few minutes at a time so I apologize for long response times.

[propbeanie]

Real Life is first, all aspects. This is the "relaxation therapy" session - or it's supposed to be, and not a "diagnostic session"... but...

The Steam version is fine, so long as you know what you have, which we really don't, but we'll assume you got the Uboat missions add-on, correct?? - since you were doing mods. None of those mods run on v1.3... ?? Now, the OS, with a newer machine I'll guess Win10, and if so, probably 64-bit??? But even if it's Win7 32-bit, the same basics apply.

First of all, since it's a Steam game, and it updates itself (Steam that is) all the time, you have to make sure that you manage the SH4 install through Steam anymore, so if you have the game installed in Program Files (x86) or any other Windows "protected" folder, you'll have to use your Steam log-in and manage the install to be elsewhere. Some folks will make a "Games" directory in the root and put it there, or just let the "Ubisoft" folder sit in the root of the hard drive. That way, Steam can manage its licenses and Windows can protect you from yourself elsewhere and not in your game folder.

Since you probably have the UBoat Missions addon, you shouldn't have to worry about the "shortcut" you're using to start the game, but check anyway, and make sure that it's pointing at "SH4.exe" and NOT "GU.exe". Also, right-click on the SH4.exe file in the Ubisoft / Wolves of the Pacific folder (or whatever you named it), and choose "Properties" at the bottom of the list. On the first page of that pop-up ("General"), be sure that the "Read only" tick box is empty. Then, you could click on the "Compatibility" tab, and then click on the "Run this program as an administrator" tick box so that there is a check mark in it. If you'd ever see issues with higher resolutions on your display while playing the game, you could try the "Disable display scaling..." tick box. If all else fails later, you could try a "Compatibility Mode" up towards the top, but leave it as a last resort.

Next, refer to CapnScurvy's Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635) for all sorts of guidance on Windows 10 and SH4 and especially LAA (Large Address Aware), which really helps the newer computers run the older games with the not so old or new mods... much smoother games.

Last but not least: your game saves. Do not overwrite saves. Always create a new Save file when you save the game. You can delete old saves from the same menu in the game if it gets too crowded with confusing file names (mine sure does) - and most important of all of that?? Do ~NOT~ load a saved game from another mod. Say you were playing TMO / RSRDC before, and activate RFB (just supposin') and when you start the game, you look through the saved games list and see an interesting one... you load it, or should I say "attempt to load it", and the game crashes. Sometimes they don't crash right away, and you get to play the game for about 30 minutes or so, then you get a contact... looks like a mess of merchants are coming your way, and you only see one blue line for an escort. "Oh boy!" you think, so you go after them. Either as soon as you target a ship, or the torpedoes are on their way, and about to impact your target when BOOM! CTD!!! You've now cross-contaminated the save folder in at least one location, maybe even the whole thing... Again, do NOT mix mods and their saves. That is why someone who really was looking out for dum-dums like me when they created MultiSH4 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1110) (they have a brain they use to think with)... maybe not as ubiquitous as JSGME, but probably should be.

[Hambone307]

Thank you, I will give these a try. I forgot about running as an admin.... If I remember correctly I had to do that on my windows 8.1 to get it to work right.

Here's hoping it works! :Kaleun_Cheers:

[CapnScurvy]

Thank you, I will give these a try. I forgot about running as an admin.... If I remember correctly I had to do that on my windows 8.1 to get it to work right.

Here's hoping it works! :Kaleun_Cheers:

Hambone307, is your Operating System Windows 10? Is it 64 bit or 32 bit?

These are important questions because it opens up where we need to go next with your base computer setup......a setup you need to get correct before adding your Steam game to it (which is a special effort all by itself).

If its Windows 10, my next question is....Did you upgrade from an earlier Windows version to Windows 10, or did you use a brand new version of Windows 10 (out of the box sort of speak) on this computer?

The reason I'm asking this question is due to how Windows may be set up on your computer. As I've discovered, an "out of the box" Windows 10 prevents several older, behind the scenes, processes from running as they should. Processes that were critical to having this 10 year old game run as expected. Both DirectX and .NetFramework need to have the correct files/drivers to play the game...which they don't by default with a Windows 10 OS that is not an upgrade from a previous Windows version.

Both DirectX 12 and the latest .NetFramework editions within Windows 10 do not contain the proper drivers for running the game as expected. What's worse, neither have their capabilities to "enable" those older driver versions set properly within Windows 10. You have to go into the OS "Settings" to enable these older drivers once you download them from Microsoft.

I can't speak for an "upgraded" Windows 10 install....it MAY have the correct drivers brought along from the previous versions of Windows?!? I don't know, you need to check for yourself. What's important to know is you need to look to see what's "enabled" on your Windows 10 install, and bring it up to speed for an older game like SH4 to play as intended. That's where "Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2452635#post2452635)" will help you figure out what's your setup?

Sorry for the presently goofed up images on this thread now. PhotoBucket has decided to change policy towards "3rd party hosting" and demands me to pay $400.00 for continuing to keep my images on their site. A ransom I'll not pay after using their site for 13 years without breaking their recently changed policy. :timeout:

I'll be fixing it soon.

[nick8321]

Ahoy Shippers

I run Win 10 and all of a sudden had the black screen of death problem but managed to fix it by doing the following:

Load the game, right click on the desktop icon, goto properties and select Win7

That seemed to cure it. I hope it helps someone.

Cheers

Shagbat

[Aktungbby]

nick8321!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Great first post nick :up:

[THEBERBSTER]

A Warm Welcome To The Subsim Community > nick8321

Support The New SH4 Mega Mod Project FOTRSU > 100_FalloftheRisingSun_Ultimate_v0.62 PublicBeta_EN (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2449289&postcount=2782)
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[SJ_SABRE]

Ahoy squids. Ex-Army here but still love the sub sims...

New laptop for Christmas

I was struggling to get SH4 running again on the new box. Thanks to this forum, and a few other threads, looks like its now working well...:yeah:

Even have some noob mods working to boot!

Eluktronics Pro-X P650HS-G
Intel i7-7700HQ Quad Core
Windows 10 Home
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
1TB SSD
32GB DDR4 RAM
Large Address Aware 2.0.4.0
Silent Hunter IV 1.5.0.0 (steam)
JSGME 2.6.0.157
Not running any compatibility mode (win 10 native)
using Program Files (x86) with no issue (steam library)

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim Sabre :salute:

[CapnScurvy]

Ahoy squids. Ex-Army here but still love the sub sims...

New laptop for Christmas

I was struggling to get SH4 running again on the new box. Thanks to this forum, and a few other threads, looks like its now working well...:yeah:

Even have some noob mods working to boot!

Eluktronics Pro-X P650HS-G
Intel i7-7700HQ Quad Core
Windows 10 Home
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
1TB SSD
32GB DDR4 RAM
Large Address Aware 2.0.4.0
Silent Hunter IV 1.5.0.0 (steam)
JSGME 2.6.0.157
Not running any compatibility mode (win 10 native)
using Program Files (x86) with no issue (steam library)

Welcome SJ_SABRE to SubSim!!

That's great that you have the game running from Steam, but I must warn you that if you keep it in the "Program Files (x86)" folder and run mods that alter the original game files (which is what mods do) you'll have issues. Since Windows XP, Windows OS has taken an approach of not allowing files to be altered when defaulted/installed into any of these folders......"Program Files", "Program Files (x86)", or the "ProgramData". It's due to security reasons, but when you decide to alter the game files with modifications, Windows will not allow the changes. That's why so many gamers have learned to install their older games into folders other than the three above. The reason newer games can be defaulted to one of these folders is simply they have the correct file "flags" that Windows recognizes (although, even newer games MAY have issues if you decide to mod/alter them).

I also see you have "Large Address Aware 2_0_4_0". I'm guessing you have downloaded version "laa_2_0_4.zip" from their site. Be aware, that version is NOT used with a Windows 10 NetFramework 4.5......which is provided with Windows 10. You should download/use the LAA version "laa_2_0_4_NetFramework_4_5.zip" for the NetFramework that's in Windows 10.

It's these kinds of things that will trip up a player trying to install older games on newer Windows Operating Systems (newer than Windows XP.....the OS the game was designed for). To make sure you have the correct NetFramework; DirectX; or even have the game installed in the correct place, you should read the "Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install" found HERE (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=228888).

Something that has just come up on my computer with the "latest" update to Windows 10 (v1709....the Fall Creators Edition) is I now have to set the game in an older "Compatible" mode to have it run. My earlier versions of Windows 10, both v1607 and v1703 did not require me to do anything with the "Compatibility" settings.......with v1709 my game would not boot as usual until I put it into a Vista compatible mode. Just be aware of what could happen, and what to do when it does.

[bubba734]

I had the same problem. I found that changing the screen resolution to 1024x768 or lower before running the program resolved the problem.
My Lenovo desktop that is from 2007 runs SH4 fine in lower resolution.

Occam's razor. Good luck!

[propbeanie]

bubba, older laptops especially, want the screen resolution to match their "Native" resolution. Look in your system settings for the video display, and see if it doesn't give you that. Set your Windows display to that "Native" resolution, and then match it in the game. It might be that 1024x768 is the best that your computer can display, but it might not be (1280x800??). I had an old HP laptop with a nice 17 inch display from that era, but I cannot remember what it could do, but I'm thinking it was like 1366x768 HD. I do remember though that SH4 didn't have an exact match for my monitor's resolution, but I played it "Windowed" at the next size down, and it looked great, other than having a "border" around the screen... Our newer (5 year old) lappy does 1600x900, while the newest is some unbelievable high figure that I'd have to get the kids to explain... In all cases, you might have to freeze the display scaling for the game. To do that, you right-click on the SH4.exe file, left-click on "Properties" from the context menu, then click on the "compatibility" tab. In the "Settings" section, tick the box "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". That does not work on all displays, and may make things worse, depending upon the resolution you are using... :salute:

[THEBERBSTER]

A Warm Welcome To The Subsim Community > bubba734
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[jlan5031]

I have a nice new Del Alienware Gaming laptop. It comes with Windows 10. I installed SH 4 Gold from Amazon. The unmodded game runs with no problems so far. However, none of the downloaded mods can be made to show up. I have used JSGME/MODS setup in my other games successfully but not on SH 4. The installed mods show on my JSGME enabler and transfer from active/inactive, but they don't show up in the game.
I've read this thread and tried to follow the ideas and directions as well as I could without success.
The same version of SH 4 is on my old Windows 7 pc, and it works well.
Ant ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[propbeanie]

I have a nice new Del Alienware Gaming laptop. It comes with Windows 10. I installed SH 4 Gold from Amazon. The unmodded game runs with no problems so far. However, none of the downloaded mods can be made to show up. I have used JSGME/MODS setup in my other games successfully but not on SH 4. The installed mods show on my JSGME enabler and transfer from active/inactive, but they don't show up in the game.
I've read this thread and tried to follow the ideas and directions as well as I could without success.
The same version of SH 4 is on my old Windows 7 pc, and it works well.
Ant ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Usually, when mods that show as activated in JSGME don't show in the game itself, it's either a bad mod folder structure, or you've got the game installed in the "C:\Program Files (x86)" folder. If it's your install, you could copy the "Ubisoft" folder and then paste it into the root of C:\, so that you have "C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific...". You'll have to change your shortcuts and all, but the game doesn't care where it is. You could also uninstall and then re-install it in a different folder. Windows "protects" the "Program Files..." folders from alteration, which is what mods do.

[jlan5031]

Propbeanie,
Many thanks for your prompt and helpful reply. It allowed me to solve the problem. The main problem was my thinking I had taken care of the Programs(86) issue. Once I convinced myself I should look again, lo and behold, there was the Ubisoft folder! Everything fell into place, and now all is well.
My thanks again,
Jlan5031

[propbeanie]

Excellent! Glad you're going! :yeah:

Now, if you're doing multiple mods, you might be interested into looking into using MultiSH4 v1.5 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1110) to help you manage multiple SH4 game save folders. Another helpful utility is Rockin Robbins' SH4CMS (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=5125), which can help with easy recovery in the event that things go wrong. The only problem with it is having to follow the batch files' naming convention, but if you're into editing batch files, it's no biggie.

Happy hunting! :salute:

[fireblade274]

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.


But after completely uninstalling everything, including using cc cleaner for registry and deleting sh4 from docs folder, and simply trying to run sh4 without the expansion, I just got the same aformentioned crash after 1+ hr of game play. It happened when i went free cam underwater near enemy ship hull. Game runs very smoothly, until it crashes. constant 60fps on max settings.

im getting ready to put my head through a mirror after uninstalling and reinstalling this (and TWOS but thats a different story. cant click on ok after games synchronized from server :dead:) sooooo many times ive lost track. each time i have to start a new save, play for more then an hour, only to verify if have to start again. which i do

Slight venting: I just want to play sh4 uboats stock, or TWOS. preferably both, but you know at least one working would be like the tops right now:salute:

Here's my specs:
i5 4690k oc to 4.6 ghz
win10 64 bit
2x HD6950s crossfired
480gb SSD
8gb RAM
750w

[Bleiente]

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.
Basically - never use old scores when changing the game version a/o modes.
Therefore, in such situations, it is always better to completely delete the folder SH4 under "My Documents". But do not worry, it will be recreated when you restart the game.

Since you have the Steam version of the game...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2297825&postcount=7
or Win10 problems
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2408009&postcount=17

If this does not help, THEBERBSTER has put together all the tutorials related to SH4:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219029

:salute:

[CapnScurvy]

Hi, so this issue first started in sh4 uboats expansion. A after a short time of game play, new and old saves crash my computer. loading old ones result in immediate crash, new saves, my last one I deployed to the Solomon islands (i think), encountered a convoy, dived, took out a few ships, went to free cam to see last torpedo hit, when I went underwater to view near enemy ship, crashes computer. this is just one example, many similar others where crashing happens after 20-30 min of gameplay. Never installed or tried to use mods on SH4.


But after completely uninstalling everything, including using cc cleaner for registry and deleting sh4 from docs folder, and simply trying to run sh4 without the expansion, I just got the same aformentioned crash after 1+ hr of game play. It happened when i went free cam underwater near enemy ship hull. Game runs very smoothly, until it crashes. constant 60fps on max settings.

im getting ready to put my head through a mirror after uninstalling and reinstalling this (and TWOS but thats a different story. cant click on ok after games synchronized from server :dead:) sooooo many times ive lost track. each time i have to start a new save, play for more then an hour, only to verify if have to start again. which i do

Slight venting: I just want to play sh4 uboats stock, or TWOS. preferably both, but you know at least one working would be like the tops right now:salute:

Here's my specs:
i5 4690k oc to 4.6 ghz
win10 64 bit
2x HD6950s crossfired
480gb SSD
8gb RAM
750w

What is your Windows 10 version and build?

I'm not talking about whether its a "Pro" or "Home" version, but what does your "Settings" / "System" / "About" page read?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, please read my Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=228888).

While reading the first post, go ahead and read the rest of the pages. Windows 10 has some things that prevent this old game from running as expected. If you follow what to do about checking your system to make sure it's "set" to play the game; plus installing it as I've described; plus adding Large Address Aware (LAA) properly; plus follow the "Do's and Don't" that I've outlined........ Windows 10 and the game will run better than ever!

[fireblade274]

Thank you for your reply! ive been mucking around in TWOS, finally got it to work but i kinda really like the point and shoot aspect of sh4, plus i feel the sinking mechanics are better.

Any way, my win 10 pro version is 1709 and os build 16299.248

I read a bit of your link but WOW thats a lot of info to take in at once.. I guess the first question i have is, since i have steam, how can i get sh4 installed somewhere other then programs 86 folder? Is LAA steam friendly?

[CapnScurvy]

Thanks for getting back regarding the version/build of Windows 10........that 1709 version, build 16299.248 is the latest as of this date. So, you're up to date with your Updates. GREAT!! That build number will change as Windows Updates itself. The Version 1709 is what they called their "Fall Creators Update" which has been a few months ago now. If Windows follows its pattern of upgrades, a newer version may not be too far off.

But lets work with the one we've got.

I'm happy to report some of the things I mentioned in my Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=228888) are not needed to check with this newer version 1709. For instance the older legacy NetFramework versions are now included in the v.1709 build...and their "Enabled", so you don't have to go through your system and hand set their settings. Already done for you!

This means loading Large Address Aware onto your system to provide the game more access to the additional memory the game didn't plan on you having, will be much simpler. The question of which version of LAA should I use, is answered for you with the new 1709 build....use the "laa_2_0_4_NetFramework_4_5.zip" to work with the newer NetFramework v4.0 and newer, which is what's in v1709.

Now, your question of using a Steam download for the game.....oh boy, I'm not a Steam user. Never will be. I buy disk versions of games and never allow a seller to dictate to me when/what I can download. As you've already found out with Steam, you've had to purchase the "Base" SH4 version 1.3. To upgrade from v1.3, one of the most bug riddled game version Ubisoft pushed out on us (version 1.4 was much better!!) you've had to repurchase the last version of SH4 (v1.5) for an additional cost. Steam knows exactly what it's doing......getting players to buy a faulty version of the game, just to resell you a more stable version!! Sorry, I don't play that game!

So, I'm going to suggest you look here SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFO <> DOWNLOAD LINKS -STICKY INDEX (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=219029). The THEBERBSTER is a Steam user, so he's got some very good insight on what to do with a Steam download of the game. When you get your Steam questions figured out, I'll be happy to help you with anything else Windows 10 related concerning the game. :up:

[propbeanie]

THEBERBSTER now has his Steam links highlighted with ">STEAM User Information", so look for those. He has some nice color-coding to go with some nice information throughout his thread. :salute:

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi pb
The THEBERBSTER is a Steam user, :hmmm: Oh. no he is'nt.
Disc man every time.:up:
THEBERBSTER now has his Steam links highlighted with ">STEAM User Information", Credit for this information in my tutorials goes to ValoWay :Kaleun_Applaud:
Peter

[CapnScurvy]

Hi pb
:hmmm: Oh. no he is'nt.
Disc man every time.:up:
Credit for this information in my tutorials goes to ValoWay :Kaleun_Applaud:
Peter


Sorry Peter, I thought you were a Steam "man"....my fault!

Anyway, his instructions are still a "must read" for those that choose Steam.

Even though I'm not a follower, I've read the Steam Forums and there's good information there too. Guys like yourself that have issues with Steam, and what to do about it. Misery enjoys company!!:O:

[bybyx]

Hello, I got myself back to SH4 and I noticed that antialiasing doesn't work anymore, at least not for me. I got Win 10 pro with the latest updates and a Radeon RX 480 8GB video card by AMD. Is it the Win 10 to blame? I remember I could force antialiasing from the Radeon Settings end everything was just fine.

[l02turner]

Ahoy!
My SH4 1.4 ran fine until 2 weeks ago when it abruptly stopped launching. I tinkered with the settings until I found something that works. Here's what This works for me:
Compatibility Mode: Vista Serv Pk 1

Settings - No boxes checked,
Program DPI: Both Boxes Checked

Running on Version 1.4

It has run every time I tried it with these settings. I suspect a Win update changed something that caused my previous settings to stop working. No matter, it works now.

BTW, I also have the expanded list of single missions activated.

LarryT

[GalaxianFive]

I had to re-install SH4 and the U-Boat addon after my computer had it,s drives blanked when it had to be repaired. When I try to run it asks for the serial No which I put in the boxes, then instead of running it says, unexpected error [13;6] and does not run. I have the original disc version, and it does not matter if I use that serial No or the addon serial No, I get the same result, Can anyone help. Michael.

[GalaxianFive]

I have contacted Ubisoft support to see if they can help. Michael

[Gerardius]

Hi guys,

Although I signed up for Subsim about 12 years ago, I didn't participate much, partly because I didn't have much to contribute, partly because my poor english.

The fact is that after many years without using SH4, I decided to reinstall it and, although the installation went well, when I accessed the simulator I could only see the Ubisoft logo and the introduction, after which my screen became black. As my version was the original 1.0 on DVD, I bought the most current version, the Gold. After uninstalling the old one and reinstalling the new one (v 1.5) I still had the same problem.

I have read a lot here, in the Ubisoft forums, videos on Youtube that partly solve the problem but only allow you to use it in window mode at a resolution of 1024x768, which for me is unacceptable.

Ubisoft's support was nefarious, because after opening a ticket they only gave me some generic links on how to activate the compatibility mode we all know.

So I was about to throw in the towel and uninstall it when it occurred to me to test the compatibility mode and I found the solution.

This simply consists of activating the compatibility with XP ServicePack 2 and, the most important thing: activate the box "Disable full screen optimizations"... and I already have SH4 working at maximum resolution and with the maximum configuration of all effects and visual improvements.

Well, excuse me for this long post and I sincerely hope that it will help you to enjoy this wonderful simulator again.

And if someone already proposed this solution and I missed it, I apologize.

Greetings and good sea for all

Gerard

[THEBERBSTER]

A Warm Welcome Back To The Subsim Community > Gerardius
Subsim <> Make A Donation <> See The Benefits <> Support The Community (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2027002&postcount=1)
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SH4 should not need a compatibility mode for Windows 10.
It is important that your gpu is setup correctly.
Changing The Nvidia GPU Settings > Essential Settings > Pictorial (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2330173&postcount=239)
Microsoft updating you drivers is the most likely cause of your problem.

Additional option if problem remains.
Post #15 How To Change DPI Scaling Having Changed The GPU Settings And You Still Have A Problem (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2297835&postcount=15)

Post #13 Large Adress Aware (LAA) Easy Install > Pictorial Essential application (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2297833&postcount=13)

How To Run The SH5.exe As Administrator > Pictorial (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2515232&postcount=417)

[Jimbuna]

Great first post Gerardius :up:

[Aktungbby]

Gerardius!:Kaleun_Salute:

[mikesn9]

Welcome aboard!

[Gerardius]

Thank you all for your warm welcome. I only hope to have contributed to all those who had problems using SH4 in Windows 10 64 bits.

Regarding the compatibility mode with Windows XP Servicepack 2, THEBERBSTER is right that it is not necessary, I have tested it and it works perfectly.

But it is essential to check the box "Disable full screen optimizations".

As for the configuration of the nVidia graph, it is not necessary to make any modifications either by nVidia Inspector or by the nVidia Control Panel. The only thing I did was to add SH4.exe to the list of applications in the 3D configuration of the nvidia control panel because if not, in my laptop MSI used by default the integrated Intel graphics, and the performance was terrible.

Now the SH4 simulator has excellent performance. When I get home I'll let you know the exact fps.

Greetings and good sea for all

[GalaxianFive]

I know all about the compatability modes and how to acess them, the problem is I try to run SH4 all I get is the screen asking for the serial No, I fill in the boxes then get error 13;6 and it shuts down. Michael.

[propbeanie]

Where did you get your game? Do you have a serial number for it? Have you attempted to contact the seller? Ubisoft?

[GalaxianFive]

mine is an original game on disc, bought when the game was first released and the U-boat addon is also a pre steam download, both have serial Nos and both have the same result, I have opened a support ticket at Ubisoft support and am waiting for replie, Michael

[hauangua]

mine is an original game on disc, bought when the game was first released and the U-boat addon is also a pre steam download, both have serial Nos and both have the same result, I have opened a support ticket at Ubisoft support and am waiting for replie, Michael

Is it the original DVD or is it a copied / mastered DVD?
Have you modified hardware PC (graphic card for example )

Error: 13:6
The 13:6 error indicates a problem with the DRM (Digital Rights Management) / unlocking process.

This error typically occurs when the computer is missing a driver which enables the unlock code to be verified. To resolve this, please go to the following site: http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm

Then click on "Drivers". You can update to the latest version; be sure to select 64bit or 32bit, according to your OS.

Afterwards, be sure that you are connected to the Internet, and please try unlocking the game again.

[propbeanie]

Eh... I think he's got one of the old old versions, like v1.0 whatever it was, and the disk is required when the game runs, until he gets it up to v1.4... maybe. Have you tried that GalaxianFive? Run the game with the disk in the drive from where you originally installed the game on this computer? also, did you install DirectX v9.0c that came on the disk? :salute:

[GalaxianFive]

Thanks to all that tried to help, yes it was the Tages that needed updating for a 64bit machine, now works perfectly. Michael.

[Drakomis]

I have windows 10 Professional 64-bit and an AMD FX-8350, with an AMD RX 580 GPU, and it works perfect. Only issues I experience is too many mods (so far GTO and the Narwhal mod work great).

[KaleunMarco]

hello,

just upgraded my Dell XPS8700 to 32 GB ram and Win10.
system runs just fine but not so for SH4-UBM CDROM.
first off, let me say that everything ran fine under Win7 with 4GB.
Next, MultiSH4 no longer runs properly:
https://i.ibb.co/hymFjb9/Picture0017.png
i've checked its compatibility mode and run it under XP-SP2, Vista-SP2, Win7 and i get the same results.
AND...SH3 is not running (nor SH4) and MultiSH4 that was launched was located in the C:\Ubisoft\SilentHunter4 folder. Strange results, eh?:hmmm:

secondly, some of you are aware that i can no longer load a Savegave. i've been pursuing this issue with a smaller group here at Subsim :subsim: but when i ran into the MultiSH4 thing today i thought i would add is to the post. the mod list does not matter: RFB, OpM, whatever. Create a boat, run a mission, save the game, can't reload the save (CTD).
i've followed Berbster's Win10 Compatibility instructions and my system is there.
my vid card is a GeForce 5200. drivers are up-to-date.
so, it would seem that something else is amiss. i just need a hint.
any thoughts?
:Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Check the write-protect attribute on the game's folders & files. Also, be sure you are using MultiSH4 v1.5... :salute:

[Fifi]

I’m running compatibility mode on VISTA alone (no SP2 etc) for SH4.exe and Jsgme.exe with great success.

Also check everything you need to run SH is matching your bit system (32 or 64)

[Pyryck]

...<posting>...

Pardon the intrusion...

Depending on which version of Win10 (I run Win10Pro) you are running, there was a recent Windows 10 update around the beginning of September, 2019, that added Ransomware Protection to lock down "Documents"/"My Documents" from being unintentionally changed.

If you're running the game full-screen, you may or may not see the Security Warnings about a program trying to access those save game files. You may have to ALLOW the changes to be made to the files/folders. (it got to be such a royal PITA to me that I turned off the Security setting)

Check under Settings then Update & Security then Windows Security then Virus & Threat protection then down to the Ransomware protection. Manage ransomware protection. "Controlled folder access" might be the culprit in this case.

[propbeanie]

Ah-HAA!!! Thank you for that Pyryck!... I ~knew~ Win10 had done it... I couldn't figure out why all of the older "legacy" apps I have where having issues... :salute:

[Aktungbby]

Pyryck!:Kaleun_Salute:

[skirich]

Pardon the intrusion...

Depending on which version of Win10 (I run Win10Pro) you are running, there was a recent Windows 10 update around the beginning of September, 2019, that added Ransomware Protection to lock down "Documents"/"My Documents" from being unintentionally changed.

If you're running the game full-screen, you may or may not see the Security Warnings about a program trying to access those save game files. You may have to ALLOW the changes to be made to the files/folders. (it got to be such a royal PITA to me that I turned off the Security setting)

Check under Settings then Update & Security then Windows Security then Virus & Threat protection then down to the Ransomware protection. Manage ransomware protection. "Controlled folder access" might be the culprit in this case.


Small caveat here. This is only an option if you use the built in windows defender AV. I use the term AV lightly here as its not a true AV, but more of an exploit and sandboxing tech.
If you added an aftermarket AV like Norton, which takes over completely here, then this option is not available (and not an issue).
YMMV depending on your software for AV.

[SgtMustang]

EDIT: Looks like I got it running! It looks like moving "d3d9.dll" and "d3d9on12.dll" from SysWOW64 to the SH4 root directory worked! Would like to hear if this fix works for anyone else with Windows 10/Dx9 related issues. Let me know if you want more details and I can post. No compatibility settings of any kind are enabled on my SH4.exe file, by the way. This is a raw Steam installation of SH4 + SH4 UBoats.


Reporting in that Silent Hunter IV does not appear to run on my Windows 10.0.18362 Build 18362 PC. The window opens with a black screen, then closes after a second or two.


Tried the following:
-DirectX web updater and the DirectX redist in the game folder
-Disable full screen optimizations
-Override High DPI Scaling
-Compatibility Modes (XP, Vista, 7, etc)
-Launching in windowed mode (via Main.Cfg)
-Setting display monitor res = 1024 x 768



None of these have worked for me so far. Odd thing is that the game DID work when I last tried launching it 3-6 months ago, so looks like some update to Windows or my graphics drivers has broken it, since.


Anyone know if there have been any major Windows updates in the last few months that have broken compatibility?


THanks!

[Aktungbby]

SgtMustang!:Kaleun_Salute:

[SgtMustang]

@Aktungbby (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=313053) thanks for the welcome!


Glad to say that I think I was able to sort out the issue. Looking at Event Viewer showed me that the app crash was related to d3d9.dll, so I figured it was a DirectX related issue. By copying d3d9.dll and d3d9on12.dll from my SysWOW64 folder, the game could finally launch again.

My thinking is that d3d9on12.dll was the real fixer, the name suggests that it has something to do with DX9 backwards compatibility with DX12. I expect the Steam installer does not include the .dlls necessary to run the game on the latest versions of Windows, but by bringing them over from the Windows folder, you're taking care of that manually.

For the record, I have no compatibility settings or LAA mods on my sh4.exe, this is a raw install from steam (SH4 + U boats).


Here is a photo of the fix for anyone who likes visual instructions:



https://i.imgur.com/hU6RsZI.png



Hope this solves other people's SH4/5 issues!

[THEBERBSTER]

A Warm Welcome To The Subsim Community > SgtMustang
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[kiwikid1940]

Hi,
I am running Windows10 64 Home and all of a sudden ALL my separate SH4 modded programs will not run due to Windows blocking SH4.exe on all of them.

I have included a screen shot and wonder if anyone can help. All of the programs are "Run as Administrator"

Mike

https://www.dropbox.com/preview/SH4%20Block.jpg

[propbeanie]

You created the jpg link behind the log-in, and it is "private". I cannot remember off the top of my head about DropBox, since it's kind of automatic with me anymore, but you create the link from the "Share", then "create" the link, then "copy" the link. It will then tell you the file was private and has been made public for the share... I think... :roll: - oldfahrtbrain here...

In the meantime, what kind of Silent Hunter do you have? Steam, UPlay, Amazon, Disk, etc? Besides the "Run as administrator", have you tried the "Compatibility" mode and the "High DPI" settings? I am on a Windows 7 machine right now, and it would not do me any good to tell you the names I see, but they are from the same "Properties" page for the SH4.exe file you did for the "Administrator" tick box.

Also, any recent Windows updates? Any recent Steam updates? Any recent UPlay updates? I have had all three on my Windows 10 laptop (that the wife is on at this moment), one of those three updates have trashed my Silent Hunter installs - all of them. This includes SH3, SH4 & SH5. I do have SH5 (Steam) back up and running TWoS, I do have SH4 back up and running (UPlay) with FotRSU, though I have not tried any other copies of that for other mods I use. I also can get one copy of my Steam SH3 going. As soon as I try to get a 2nd going, it will trash the first. Very frustrating, and I am hoping they have not changed the licensing agreement after my purchase, but they do say "... subject to change without notice..." in the UA... Anyway, let us know what you have! :salute:

[kiwikid1940]

Hi propbeanie,

I have installed SH4 from CD and it does not require me to be on Steam, UPlay etc. I have given it "Compatability" as well as "Run as Administrator" and "High DPI" options but to no avail.

There has been Windows updates and I think it may be one of those, but which one is any ones guess.

At this time my SH3 and SH5 both still run with no problems.

Sorry about Dropbox but screen print justs shows that Windows has blocked SH4.exe on all my hard drives saying an administrator has blocked it but I have UAC at lowest level???

I will have a look on Microsoft's web site and see if I can try to establish what has happened.


PS Problem solved by turning UAC (User Access Control) OFF. I have always run it at the lowest level but found a way via UTube to actually turn it off. I am not worried about having UAC off as it gives me COMPLETE control of computer!!!

[WH4K]

Windows 10 Pro here. Haven't touched a sub sim for several years and a couple Windows versions, but reinstalled Wolves of the Pacific yesterday just for kicks.


I'm happy to say I had minimal problems getting SH4 running on Windows 10. Essentially, simply updating my Nvidia drivers made the game run trouble-free. So far, at least; I haven't played a whole lot yet.


Now I need to work out what mods I want to apply, because the vanilla game looks bloody AWFUL at 2560x1440. Yeesh.

[propbeanie]

@ kiwikid1940: which version of the game do you have on disk? Did you purchase it in like 2007, like I did my first copy? If so, you need to keep the game inserted in the drive, then update the version with Official v1.4 patch (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=8) and then set the "Properties" page for SH4 to "Run this program as administrator", maybe change the High DPI settings to program controlled, and possibly have to use the Compatibility settings to Win7. Each computer is different in this regard, due to the UAC settings each person has on their computers. You could also look at your UAC settings, and see if reducing that doesn't allow the SH4.exe to run. If you already have SH4 v1.5, which has the UBoat Missions in it, then those "Properties" setting still might help.

For both you and WH4K, you want to make certain that your SH4 install is NOT in a "Program Files" folder, such as "C:\Program Files (x86) \Ubisoft \Silent Hunter 4...", since that is a "protected" folder on the 'modern' Windows system (since Vista). Windows will rollback most changes done by a mod to that folder, and then you end up with a mess. You want to install your game to a folder you create yourself. What I usually do with my installs is just edit the command line for install choice, and delete the Program Files reference, such that I end up with "C:\Ubisoft \Silent Hunter 4..." for the install path, or I also have a "Games" folder on my other computer, and install there with "F:\Games \Silent Hunter 4...". You could also select the contents of the install folder, copy everything, and then paste that into a folder you create outside of "Program Files", and then run it from the "SH4.exe" file... :salute:

[kiwikid1940]

Hi propbeanie

In reply I had my several SH4 modded games running quite sweet for the last two to three years and it was only the other day that Windows decided it didn't like SH4.exe!!

All mods are run outside of "program files" with some being on two separate external hard drives and no problems at all.

I can only assume that a recent Windows update decided that the UAC should block this file and of course it affected ALL my SH4 installs including the external drives.

But now, having turned off UAC, I can run all of my modded games again and I am quite happy to run with UAC off.

[propbeanie]

Hi propbeanie

In reply I had my several SH4 modded games running quite sweet for the last two to three years and it was only the other day that Windows decided it didn't like SH4.exe!!

All mods are run outside of "program files" with some being on two separate external hard drives and no problems at all.

I can only assume that a recent Windows update decided that the UAC should block this file and of course it affected ALL my SH4 installs including the external drives.

But now, having turned off UAC, I can run all of my modded games again and I am quite happy to run with UAC off.
Well... imagine that... another user with UAC turned-off so that they can run "legacy" apps... I wonder if that's what's going on with my Steam SH3 and SH5 on my Win10 laptop?... You should NOT have to bend over (including backwards) to get things running in Win10 like this, because of an update... In your case, I wonder if it has to do with the use of external hard drives... are you on USB or eSATA? :salute:

[kiwikid1940]

Hi propbeanie,

All my external hard drives are connected to desktop computer via USB cables.

[Moonlight]

Pardon the intrusion...

Depending on which version of Win10 (I run Win10Pro) you are running, there was a recent Windows 10 update around the beginning of September, 2019, that added Ransomware Protection to lock down "Documents"/"My Documents" from being unintentionally changed.

If you're running the game full-screen, you may or may not see the Security Warnings about a program trying to access those save game files. You may have to ALLOW the changes to be made to the files/folders. (it got to be such a royal PITA to me that I turned off the Security setting)

Check under Settings then Update & Security then Windows Security then Virus & Threat protection then down to the Ransomware protection. Manage ransomware protection. "Controlled folder access" might be the culprit in this case.

I updated my win 10 pro today and a couple of hours later I gave SH4 a whirl, none of the saves would work, I knew I'd just read about this fix so I went in and disabled Ransomware protection, lo and behold it loaded my last save without doing anything else to it, Microsoft should check these things first the bloody fools.

[Moonlight]

I thought a new post was needed for this Ransomware Protection thingie.

Further investigation into this Ransomware Protection thingie was needed as several other of my games use saves in the Documents folder, so I turned it back on and did the steps below.
If you click "Manage Ransomware Protection" and on the next screen select "Allow an app through Controlled folder access" the next screen gives you a "+ Add an allowed app" select that box and then "Browse all apps" choose sh4 - Shortcut and voila your games should work just like mine are doing, you don't have to disable Ransomware Protection after all. :up:

[WH4K]

Lucky me, my slightly OCD habit of never installing games in C:\Program Files pays off.


I created a new Steam library on a hard drive that isn't C: for SH4 to run off of. Plenty space for mods too.


FWIW the awful graphics seem to have been a first-run thing. I guess SH4 needs to restart entirely to adapt correctly to a new resolution setting. Looks a lot better now, but I'll still be tweaking w/ some mods.

[PL_Andrev]

But now, having turned off UAC, I can run all of my modded games again and I am quite happy to run with UAC off.

Does it help with SH4 Uboat add-on?

[XenonSurf]

Although I have the game on Windows 7 on a fast desktop rig, some days ago I did install it on my gaming laptop in Windows 10. I didn't have to switch on compatibility mode or something, but that's because in the installer I have changed the install location to



C:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific



which is a free accessible folder. I would do the same with SH3 / SH5.

Maybe if you don't have a dedicated security suite, then you need to set an exception rule in Windows Defender or savegames may not be written in your Documents\SH4 folder.



Also if you use megamods, the readme warns you that you must start a new carrer, old saves won't work.

What I had to do is to set a framerate cap to 300 for the game, otherwise the game goes crazy FPS when in the menu.


I'm playing with these mods over SH4 U-Boat Missions v. 1.5:
1.0 TMO_RSRDC_OTC
1.5_OTC_Realistic Scopes for 16 to 9 RSRDCv502
1.5_OTC_German PPI Screen
2.0 Ralles ModPack for TMO_RSRDC_OTC




Greetings,
XS

[Luno]

Hi everyone, long time no play! Getting back into SH4.


I have a laptop without a disk drive so I went ahead and bought the UPlay version to download ($3...it's cheaper than a disk drive).



I had trouble getting it to work. I tried running as an administrator and in compatibility mode with Windows XP (SP2), but neither action seemed to work.




**Last, I changed the resolution scale from 125% to 100%. Everything on my laptop screen is super tiny, but now the game works! This was not in any of the threads I had read thus far, so I hope this helps someone! :salute:

[Aktungbby]

Luno!:Kaleun_Salute: after a loong silent run!

[billkunert]

I tried loading SH4 Gold on a new Dell laptop and when I try to start the game I get a big red message that 'This app has been blocked for your protection'. Running Win 10 Home on a Dell with 12 gig ram and a latest generation I7 processor. Disabled UAC - no help. Program is installed on C drive in a newly created Games folder. Thanks for any suggestions. I've gone through the SH4 on Win 10 threads and didn't find an answer.

[Mad Mardigan]

I tried loading SH4 Gold on a new Dell laptop and when I try to start the game I get a big red message that 'This app has been blocked for your protection'. Running Win 10 Home on a Dell with 12 gig ram and a latest generation I7 processor. Disabled UAC - no help. Program is installed on C drive in a newly created Games folder. Thanks for any suggestions. I've gone through the SH4 on Win 10 threads and didn't find an answer.

If memory hasn't failed Me... should be a ''more info'' link in that window.. again, if I'm remembering that correctly... clicking that should open that box more so & there should be a ''run anyway'' option available...

But.. don't quote Me 100% on that, as I could be remembering that wrongly..

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[billkunert]

If memory hasn't failed Me... should be a ''more info'' link in that window.. again, if I'm remembering that correctly... clicking that should open that box more so & there should be a ''run anyway'' option available...

But.. don't quote Me 100% on that, as I could be remembering that wrongly..

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:There is no option except to close the warning.

[Aktungbby]

billkunert!:Kaleun_Salute: Nice silent run!:up:

[billkunert]

There is no option except to close the warning.
I managed to eliminate the danger warning by completely disabling UAC, not just setting the slider at minimum but actually shutting it off. Now I have to find out why the game won't load. I ought to be able to find some thing in this thread.

[propbeanie]

When you installed SH4, did you also install the Windows DirectX v9.0c and Windows Media Codecs that came with the SH4 install?

[RickC Sniper]

With Microsoft dropping support for Windows 7 and my computer being a bit of a relic I now have a new (YAY) beast of a PC with Win 10 pro on it.


I did an install of SH4 and it is up and running just fine so far with my favorite mods but I have just one question.


During the install I was prompted to register my product with UBI. I declined, but I expect to get prompted to register it again in a few days.


Is there ANY reason at all I should need to do this? Anything negative at all that would affect my game by not registering it?


Install was from the Gold edition CD.


Thank you in advance.

[Aktungbby]

RickC Sniper,:Kaleun_Salute: u were overdue from patrol...nice two-year silent run!:up:

[Pisces]

...

During the install I was prompted to register my product with UBI. I declined, but I expect to get prompted to register it again in a few days.


Is there ANY reason at all I should need to do this? Anything negative at all that would affect my game by not registering it?


Install was from the Gold edition CD.
...I don't see why. I doub't there is much of a benefit to it. Patches are readily available if you need them. (well, up to 1.5 Uboat missions) I've never bothered and can't remember I ever got a nag pop-up from it.

[KaleunMarco]

During the install I was prompted to register my product with UBI. I declined, but I expect to get prompted to register it again in a few days.

Is there ANY reason at all I should need to do this? Anything negative at all that would affect my game by not registering it?

Install was from the Gold edition CD.

Thank you in advance.

no.
registering just identifies you to Ubi as a licensed user. Ubi would use it for updates, notices, etc but since Ubi doesn't do that for SH4 anymore, not-registering will have no effect on your use. party-out, dude!:haha:

good luck and good hunting!
:Kaleun_Salute:

[torpedobait]

With Microsoft dropping support for Windows 7 and my computer being a bit of a relic I now have a new (YAY) beast of a PC with Win 10 pro on it.


I did an install of SH4 and it is up and running just fine so far with my favorite mods but I have just one question.


During the install I was prompted to register my product with UBI. I declined, but I expect to get prompted to register it again in a few days.


Is there ANY reason at all I should need to do this? Anything negative at all that would affect my game by not registering it?


Install was from the Gold edition CD.


Thank you in advance.

Look in the folder that you installed SH4 to; you should see a folder marked "RegistrationReminder". Delete that folder and it will never come up again. :salute:

[RickC Sniper]

Thanks guys. :up:

[trebby]

So....

Tried to reinstall SH4 under WIN10, and tried all above for a day.

No joy.

Utterly frustrated, decided its another time, and got UBOAT on steam sale.

UBOAT didnt ignite with me yet, reverted to boardgames.

Had to update IRFANVIEW program to scan a depth gauge to print, and clicked SH4 exe for the heck of it as I scrolled by....

It launched!!!

So, FWIW, IRFANVIEW seems to get me back...:salute:


Edit: now SH5 also works again...

[LCQ_SH]

Hi everyone.

So I upgraded my rig, and after reading everything and tested everything I could, I concluded that my laptop doesn't want to run SH4 in any resolution but 1024x768 in windowed mode. On that resolution, it works like a charm (intel grpahics, as it doesn't like my nvidia, although it doesn't need it), but now I'm out of ideas. The big question is if there is a solution for that. (I've tried the cgf files, I already checked the net framework thing, and all good, LAA, etc.) Mostly, everything was covered and I ran out of ideas...

Some of my specs.
GTX 1660 Ti
Windows 10 10.0.18363 18363 and 16GB RAM.

Many thanks to all. :wah: :/\\!! :wah: :/\\!! :wah: :/\\!! :wah:

[propbeanie]

With my 'modern' Win10 laptop, I have the Windows display settings the same as the "Native" resolution of the display monitor, and have the game set the same. I do not have a dual-card set-up like you though... but anyway, matching that, and then I right-click the SH4.exe file, and choose "Properties", and then the "Compatibility" tab. Just for SnGs, I chose "Run as an administrator" (it should not be necessary), since I was there, but the thing that helped it to actually function correctly was to click on the "Change high DPI settings", and I chose "High DPI scaling Overide - Overide high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: <Application>". That did the trick for my laptop.

[LCQ_SH]

With my 'modern' Win10 laptop, I have the Windows display settings the same as the "Native" resolution of the display monitor, and have the game set the same. I do not have a dual-card set-up like you though... but anyway, matching that, and then I right-click the SH4.exe file, and choose "Properties", and then the "Compatibility" tab. Just for SnGs, I chose "Run as an administrator" (it should not be necessary), since I was there, but the thing that helped it to actually function correctly was to click on the "Change high DPI settings", and I chose "High DPI scaling Overide - Overide high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: <Application>". That did the trick for my laptop.

Awesome man, fatastic! Simple as that. Hopefully, that simple trick could be posted somewhere and save a lot of time for the 'new computer windows 10' guys. :yeah::yeah:

All the best! :salute: :subsim:

[P|A|ntZ]

I had this issue initially after installing SH4, it would seem to be launching but then blank screen.

It turns out my Windows setting was running apps not in their native resolution. If you go into Settings > Display, there's a setting to zoom text, apps, etc. Make sure this is set at 100%. After I adjusted that, the game runs fine.

I hope this helps other Win10 users that have the same issue and are frustrated.

[Aktungbby]

P|A|ntZ!:Kaleun_Salute:I see the infamous :subsim: seven-year-itch has brought U 2 the surface after a loooong silent run!:arrgh!:

[Yorktown_Class]

Just coming back to Silent Hunter 4 after a long time off, and now on Windows 10. I can't get passed the trash that stops the EXE from running except with registry hacks that let it work but crashes all the time, or my computer shuts down and restarts on it's own..


Very sad indeed!

[Gray Lensman]

Just coming back to Silent Hunter 4 after a long time off, and now on Windows 10. I can't get passed the trash that stops the EXE from running except with registry hacks that let it work but crashes all the time, or my computer shuts down and restarts on it's own..


Very sad indeed!


Make sure your SH4 installation is NOT installed in Program Files for starters, even Steam should NOT be installed in Program Files if you are running the Steam version of SH4. Assuming that you're not installed in Program Files then probably Windows Defender is messing with you. I'm using Win10 with no issues.

[propbeanie]

Big thing with Windows 10 is to right-click on the SH4.exe and "Run as administrator". Same with the install. Staying out of Program Files is if you intend to mod the game.

[Gray Lensman]

Big thing with Windows 10 is to right-click on the SH4.exe and "Run as administrator". Same with the install. Staying out of Program Files is if you intend to mod the game.


LOL, who in the right mind would actually play this game stock without mods?

[Yorktown_Class]

Ahh ok will try that. Just any other folder then?

[Mad Mardigan]

:Kaleun_Cheers: Yorktown_Class,

I created a altogether separate folder in C:\

Then named it Games

I run SH4 from a Steam install, which for Me, I have Steam on a 2nd hard drive installed in the tower. I have the library for Steam, in that folder as follows:

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters wolves of the pacific

I then, create folders & name them accordingly to the mega mod I want to add to them, as an example 'Fall of the Rising Sun':

C:\Games\Silent-Hunter\SH4-Steam\steamapps\common\PH-FotRSU-EN

I create the folder, aptly named 'FotRSU-EN' in the \commons folder, then go into the \Silent Hunters wolves of the pacific folder & copy the guts of the game (after having ran it 1 time... and 1 time only, Vasily, to allow for it to do what is needed to for it to set up then that is the very last time I run that, as I use it as My pristine copy to use as a boiler plate for the other SH4's I want to mod out.) & paste the guts into that newly created & named folder... making sure to include in that folder, MultiSH4, JSGME, run the JSGME once, to allow for it to create the necessary 'MODS' folder.

I then, drop into that created MODS folder, the needed mods to run it as needed, then run JSGME to activate them After that, I take a moment & rename the SH4.exe to the mod name then right click & select the 'Send to desktop' option. I then right click on the SH4.exe I sent to desktop & go into properties, where I then set it to run as Admin & ensure the box is unchecked to read only (located on the General tab of properties) so that changes can be written in as needed.

I then, run the MultiSH4 & name it as PHF (for Me, this is FotRSU-EN, with the added mod Pre Pearl Harbor by fred8615 - I did have to do a bit of tweaking to it, to correct an issue I ran into... it may work just fine on others who add it in...).

Lastly, I then run Large Address Aware (I have this installed elsewhere on My main drive) & point it to where the SH4.exe is located, in sect. 1 listed as 'Select an executable' and set it to run it with 4 gigs of RAM, in sect. 2 listed as 'Large Address Aware flag'.. then click Save in sect. 3 listed as 'Commit Changes' then close that out.

After that, I then send a copy of JSGME to desktop, the same way I sent the renamed SH4.exe there. I keep these both together on desktop so as to easily keep track of them should I need to do any editing at all.

After that I then run it when I want to take a sub out.

Hopefully this helps you out...

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Yes, it is best to alter the install folder, such that when you get to the part about the install path, and whether it has
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft \Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
or if you are using Steam
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
or whatever, it is best to edit that path such that you have one of your own creation, such as
C:\Games \Silent Hunter 4... etc
or
C:\Ubisoft \Silent Hunter 4... etc
or with Steam
C:\Games \Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter 4... etc.
Whatever the case may be, just eliminate the "Program Files" references and have it install where you want. I even change the name of the game folder itself from Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific to something more concise, like SH4, or if I'm modding the game, I will name it after the mod I will apply later, and then use MultiSH4 (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1110) to name the Save folder after the mod, but now we are getting into the Weeds of Complexity (aka: WoC), and that can really WoC a person up... get your feet on the ground first with a good install outside of Program Files, then go from there... :salute:

[Navelintel]

Hi guys,

Although I signed up for Subsim about 12 years ago, I didn't participate much, partly because I didn't have much to contribute, partly because my poor english.

The fact is that after many years without using SH4, I decided to reinstall it and, although the installation went well, when I accessed the simulator I could only see the Ubisoft logo and the introduction, after which my screen became black. As my version was the original 1.0 on DVD, I bought the most current version, the Gold. After uninstalling the old one and reinstalling the new one (v 1.5) I still had the same problem.

I have read a lot here, in the Ubisoft forums, videos on Youtube that partly solve the problem but only allow you to use it in window mode at a resolution of 1024x768, which for me is unacceptable.

Ubisoft's support was nefarious, because after opening a ticket they only gave me some generic links on how to activate the compatibility mode we all know.

So I was about to throw in the towel and uninstall it when it occurred to me to test the compatibility mode and I found the solution.

This simply consists of activating the compatibility with XP ServicePack 2 and, the most important thing: activate the box "Disable full screen optimizations"... and I already have SH4 working at maximum resolution and with the maximum configuration of all effects and visual improvements.

Well, excuse me for this long post and I sincerely hope that it will help you to enjoy this wonderful simulator again.

And if someone already proposed this solution and I missed it, I apologize.

Greetings and good sea for all

Gerard

Thanks for the tip mate! :yeah:

After another recent MS sneak attack via their infamous Windows 10 ‘update’, both my SH3 and SH4 programs were again trashed due to a settings issue that would not allow me to launch either game after the initial introductions. But your suggestion, to check disable full-screen optimizations, worked like a charm. Not sure why MS even offers this feature (i.e., full-screen optimizations) as it was supposed ‘to boost gaming performance and deliver a borderless full screen for you to enjoy your games’. Au contraire, MS blew it again on this one.

BTW, I utilize Uplay or now it's called Ubisoft Connect to access SH4 Gold Edition, and agree based on my experience, Ubisoft’s ‘support’ is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle!


So, stay well and stay safe.

Navelintel :Kaleun_Salute:

[KaleunMarco]

Thanks for the tip mate! :yeah:

After another recent MS sneak attack via their infamous Windows 10 ‘update’, both my SH3 and SH4 programs were again trashed due to a settings issue that would not allow me to launch either game after the initial introductions. But your suggestion, to check disable full-screen optimizations, worked like a charm. Not sure why MS even offers this feature (i.e., full-screen optimizations) as it was supposed ‘to boost gaming performance and deliver a borderless full screen for you to enjoy your games’. Au contraire, MS blew it again on this one.

BTW, I utilize Uplay or now it's called Ubisoft Connect to access SH4 Gold Edition, and agree based on my experience, Ubisoft’s ‘support’ is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle!


So, stay well and stay safe.

Navelintel :Kaleun_Salute:
+1 on what PB said, especially the installation location. re-install somewhere other than the the Programs folder.

Good Luck!
:Kaleun_Salute:

[Navelintel]

+1 on what PB said, especially the installation location. re-install somewhere other than the the Programs folder.

Good Luck!
:Kaleun_Salute:

I also understand for most, it's an irrefutable but essential tenet, to re-install SH4 anywhere but in the Programs Files as one would be fully aware of the consequences, especially if they’ve owned the game since 2007, for as long as I have . . .


Thanks.

Navelintel :)

[KaleunMarco]

I also understand for most, it's an irrefutable but essential tenet, to re-install SH4 anywhere but in the Programs Files as one would be fully aware of the consequences, especially if they’ve owned the game since 2007, for as long as I have . . .


Thanks.

Navelintel :)

no offense intended.
:Kaleun_Salute:

[Front Runner]

I'm working with the FOTRSU team in order to help de-bug certain features and I decided to un-install Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific and do a clean re-install from scratch. I do have archived complete installations of SH4 updated to v1.5 so, what could go wrong?

On my first try, I was able to get SH4 v1 reinstalled from my legacy CD. I was unable, however, to get the SH4 v1.4 patch and the SH4 v1.5 U Boat Missions executables to "execute." The Windows 10 Overseer invisible administrator would not allow me to execute either patch. It was telling me that "This app has been blocked for your (my) protection. An ADMINISTRATOR has blocked you (me) from running this app. For more information, contact the administrator."
I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR and I'm attempting to run the patches "as administrator!

No matter, I have my archived copies, so all went well. When I started SH4, it did require me to activate my v1.5 U Boat Missions for which I had the key.

I'm a "tinkerer". I keep trying. While I was doing some other tinkering within a multi-SH4 folder, I came across another executable which popped up the same information as above. I'm thinking, what the hell, I used to be able to execute this applet.

I started tinkering around and ended up using Large Address Aware on the applet and it worked. So....

I decided to have another go around to install SH4 from scratch. I uninstalled SH4, then used CCleaner to clean up my registry files etc., did a restart and proceeded to re-install SH4, this time with v1.4 and v1.5 patches made Large Address Aware compatible. Lo and behold it worked! I no longer got the Windows 10 Overseer Invisible Administrator error messages when executing these treated .exe files.
Just for kicks, I tried to execute an untreated copy of the v1.4 patch and the Windows 10 mother-in-law would not let me...

So, the next time you un-install and re-install a fresh copy of SH4 from scratch, using the original CD, the v1.4 patch and the v1.4 U Boat Missions, treat them with the LAA first. It worked for me. This fix will probably work for other legacy apps and applets which are blocked for your (my) own protection.

[GalaxianFive]

Help I don't know what happened but after over 2 years trouble free running of SH4 it suddenly won't run. I start it up and it brings up the activation screen asking for the disc code, then contacts the server and then says my activation codes have expired and to contact support! I have the original disc version with a downloaded copy of u-boat missions three installs on my G drive not in program files. Have contacted support and they requested an image of my owners file which I uploaded to them, am now waiting for them to get back to me. SH2, SH3, SH5 all run fine I can even get the original SH1 to run with dosbox! so annoyed as SH4 is my favorite game! Anyone else have this problem?

[propbeanie]

Are you saying that the game was installed, and properly functioning, and that after a Windows Update, or some other such "update", that the game ceased to function and you now get that message for the license key, or is this a re-install and you cannot now get the U-Boat Missions Add-On to activate?

[GalaxianFive]

The game was installed and running great all 3 seperate installs worked perfectly. Now I get this activation message!

[propbeanie]

I have had similar issues with the U-Boat Missions Add-On, but only when re-installing... The computer I have with that install is sitting over in the corner of the basement, and I have not run SH4 on it in quite some time, since I have newer gear that runs it oh so much better now, thank you very much! I'll try to find some time today, and give it a whirl over there... My original copy of the U-Boat Missions Add-On download quit working (refused the license key) quite a few years ago though. I contacted Ubisoft Support when that first happened, and they gave me a link to a new version of the software, and a new activation code. That did work for another installation I did roughly three years ago. I was informed by Ubisoft Support at the time of getting the new download, that there was a limit as to how many installations would run from that add-on. I do know that they have recently updated their "connection" software (from UPlay), and you might be running afoul of that #$%@, which messed-up my SH5 install, and that took me several days to "fix", with their help. Have you heard back from Ubisoft yet? Back when I first had trouble, it took a total of 3 days to get things resolved. This last issue with SH5 took over 10 days, since they are so slow to respond. I also had to log into my Ubisoft account, of which I couldn't remember my log-in ID, much less my password, and log-in and check "communications" on a daily basis, since they seem incapable of sending external email, unless it fits into their schedule... Of course, getting support on 12+ year-old software is somewhat surprising... if it was MS, they would say "we dropped support for that fourteen years ago. You might try a user's group somewhere and see what they recommend. It is suggested that you upgrade to the latest/greatest, most expensive game you can find. Thank you for choosing MS. Now, go away."...

[GalaxianFive]

I'm still waiting for ubisoft to get back to me although it's only been 2 days. If the worst happens and I have to buy a new copy of SH4+U-BOAT, which is better for modding, buying from ubisoft or steam?

[propbeanie]

That is about as wide as it is long... With SH5, there was a "fix" for the Steam version, and now there is a "fix" for the Ubisoft version. You still can't play Sober's mod in either. His needs the disk version... SH4 it doesn't seem to matter, and the same with SH3. They both do copy fine to another folder for applying MultiSH and any desired mod. It is advisable though, to not mod the initial install of the game, since that is the one that both of those vendors point to when you go to "verify game files". I have both a Steam and a Ubisoft version of SH5, a Steam SH3 and a Ubisoft SH4, and I do not have issues with any of them anymore. The only troubles a person runs into with these old games on the newer computers, is Administrator rights and video settings. This kind of stuff can be very frustrating to get set correctly.

Lest I forget - The Steam "base" SH4 game is v1.3 of Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific. You cannot use the Ubisoft "Sh4v1.4Patch" to update the game. You also cannot use the Ubisoft "Uboat Missions AddOn", if you have one. You ~MUST~ use the Steam version of Uboat Missions AddOn to get to version 1.5 aka: Gold Edition of the game. Ubisoft only sells the "Gold Edition" anymore. To have v1.4 of the game, if desired, you need a DVD-ROM version of the game, and the Ubisoft version of UBoat Missions AddOn - which is no longer available... :salute:

[Mad Mardigan]

That is about as wide as it is long... With SH5, there was a "fix" for the Steam version, and now there is a "fix" for the Ubisoft version. You still can't play Sober's mod in either. His needs the disk version... SH4 it doesn't seem to matter, and the same with SH3. They both do copy fine to another folder for applying MultiSH and any desired mod. It is advisable though, to not mod the initial install of the game, since that is the one that both of those vendors point to when you go to "verify game files". I have both a Steam and a Ubisoft version of SH5, a Steam SH3 and a Ubisoft SH4, and I do not have issues with any of them anymore. The only troubles a person runs into with these old games on the newer computers, is Administrator rights and video settings. This kind of stuff can be very frustrating to get set correctly.

Lest I forget - The Steam "base" SH4 game is v1.3 of Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific. You cannot use the Ubisoft "Sh4v1.4Patch" to update the game. You also cannot use the Ubisoft "Uboat Missions AddOn", if you have one. You ~MUST~ use the Steam version of Uboat Missions AddOn to get to version 1.5 aka: Gold Edition of the game. Ubisoft only sells the "Gold Edition" anymore. To have v1.4 of the game, if desired, you need a DVD-ROM version of the game, and the Ubisoft version of UBoat Missions AddOn - which is no longer available... :salute:

Ahoy, :Kaleun_Cheers:

The last I checked on that... Steam in their combo pack, offers up SH3 (latest version), SH4 in both v1.4 & 1.5 (if you want to do mods for SH4, I strongly recommend ensuring that you grab the v1.5 SH4...) & then finally, SH5.

Hope this info helps...

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[GalaxianFive]

I already have SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4, and SH5 all on original discs and SH4 U-BOAT as a digital download all work great on this win 10 pc except SH4+U-BOAT which has the mentioned activation problem after working for over 2 years on it. If I buy the steam version with U-BOAT missions is it easy to install duplicate installations on my other hard drives?

[Mad Mardigan]

I already have SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4, and SH5 all on original discs and SH4 U-BOAT as a digital download all work great on this win 10 pc except SH4+U-BOAT which has the mentioned activation problem after working for over 2 years on it. If I buy the steam version with U-BOAT missions is it easy to install duplicate installations on my other hard drives?

Ahoy, Galaxian5...:Kaleun_Cheers:

I have 3, 4 & 5 through Steam & to be frank, I have a 2 HD set up on My computer... I use the main drive for win, My games library folder (set up out side of either \prog files or \prog files (x86) for obvious reasons... it keeps it out of UAC's grubby evil paws... so I can mod My games as I see fit to do so.

The 2nd drive is My notes, mod repository & where I stack the game launchers at... I know that some only roll with 1 HD, so am not sure if how I set things up in the \Games ''library'' will work or not... as I don't have a computer set up with just 1 drive, to test that out on... :hmmm: This set up is for SH4, am NOT sure if the same will work with SH3 or 5... as I haven't tested it out with those SH line ups... :yep:

That said, I have sh4 ''pristine'' copy in the \common folder & from there, have My SH4 mods in that same \common folder, in a folder named \SH4 megamods. In that folder, I have each copy I modded out, in their respective mod names, like We dive at Dawn!, FotRSU-Nippon Maru, Op. Monsun: Dark & so on... Think I have 5 different megamodded flavors of SH4 total...

I copied the guts of SH4, from that ''pristine'' copy (which I finalized the set up after install, by running it to allow for any additional stuff to be done first), I then pasted that into the folder named to the mega I wanted to go with, put in to it jsgme, multiSH4, run MultiSH4 to set up the new save folder naming it to match the mod, closed that, moved on to running the jsgme once, to allow for the 'MODS' folder to be set up. Dropped in all that goes for the mega into 'MODS', run jsgme to active them in the order of that is needed... run Large Address Aware, to assign the SH4.exe 4 GB of RAM, & then send a copy of jsgme, the SH4.exe to desktop so I don't have to go back into the folder to run them & rename them to the mod flavor

hope this info helps... :shucks:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Aktungbby]

YIPES! I just looked at my mancave's old games shelf and discovered I have Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific. I have no recollection of having acquired it...possibly the local library's book and games sale some years back :hmmm: Completely wrapped in it's original cellophane....I checked on the game requirements: and it said Windows "XP/Vista only"...so being completely computer illiterate techwise, I typed in can silent hunter wolves of pacific be played on WIN 10? which led me to a steam forum which led me here. The pandemic lockdown has me screaming for "sumpin' new" to do in my Covid-confined dotage:wah: so here goes!:arrgh!:
TNX in advance for the info in this thread!! :Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Ooo-oooh - Akbby! Congrats on the find, and good luck on the "hunt"! How is it going thus far? :salute:

[GalaxianFive]

Ubisoft support finnally got back to me, they recognise that I own the game legally and have added further activations to my code keys. SUCCESS!!!! My SH-4 now works perfectly again.

[propbeanie]

Wow... blazingly ~FAST~... wow - at least they did get you going though. Fantastic. :salute:

[Aktungbby]

Ooo-oooh - Akbby! Congrats on the find, and good luck on the "hunt"! How is it going thus far? :salute: Actually i've yet to screwup my courage to load it!:arrgh!:

[Arsenius]

Heloo people, long time no see, and finally i'm back again:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

My problem here, the game opens well, my monitor is a LG Ultrawide running at resolution of 2560 x 1080, and ingame i turn resolution to 1920 x 1080

but in the as ingame suddenly mouse starts to freeze and the game turn back to desktop as if i'm alt-tabbed.

the is there in the task bar, i clickit, the game is back and suddenly is "alt tab" itself again

The mystery IS now WHY:06::06::06:?

how i can solve this

Windows 10 to the last version,
Ryzen 7 3800X
Nvidia RTX 2070
24gb of 2666 mhz ram

[Aktungbby]

Arsenius!:Kaleun_Salute: nice 11 year silent run!

[c6owboy]

I found this youtube link gives step by step instructions after you follow procedure Silent hunter 4 will run normally. You will also get this error on installing the SH4 1.4 patch for the game. I couldn't find the other thread please share this in other threads concerning windows 10 problems




How to Fix this App has Been Blocked for Your Protection Error in Windows 10 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjf0PxhGU0U) :)

[Arsenius]

I found this youtube link gives step by step instructions after you follow procedure Silent hunter 4 will run normally. You will also get this error on installing the SH4 1.4 patch for the game. I couldn't find the other thread please share this in other threads concerning windows 10 problems




How to Fix this App has Been Blocked for Your Protection Error in Windows 10 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjf0PxhGU0U) :)

I've found when i turn to native resolution of my monitor, all the flipping stops

but I can't reach the button "Proceed" to open a new campaign.. :har: ohh by gods of the sea.....

[propbeanie]

I would not recommend editing the registry for Silent Hunter. As you have found Arsenius, getting the video stream set correctly will work. Right now, with the ultra-wide, your game setting of 1920x1080 is off the screen to the bottom. To temporarily get around that, set the Main Menu, Options, Graphic Settings to "Windowed". Then restart the game. This will leave black bars to the left and right of the game "Window", but will allow you to reach the bottom and top of the game screen. You might also have to adjust the SH4.exe Properties on the Compatibility tab.

[K9us]

So I upgraded my rig, and after reading everything and tested everything I could, I concluded that my laptop doesn't want to run SH4 in any resolution but 1024x768 in windowed mode. On that resolution, it works like a charm (intel grpahics, as it doesn't like my nvidia, although it doesn't need it), but now I'm out of ideas. The big question is if there is a solution for that. (I've tried the cgf files, I already checked the net framework thing, and all good, LAA, etc.) Mostly, everything was covered and I ran out of ideas...


With my 'modern' Win10 laptop, I have the Windows display settings the same as the "Native" resolution of the display monitor, and have the game set the same. I do not have a dual-card set-up like you though... but anyway, matching that, and then I right-click the SH4.exe file, and choose "Properties", and then the "Compatibility" tab. Just for SnGs, I chose "Run as an administrator" (it should not be necessary), since I was there, but the thing that helped it to actually function correctly was to click on the "Change high DPI settings", and I chose "High DPI scaling Overide - Overide high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: <Application>". That did the trick for my laptop.

Had the same issue as LCQ_SH, and can more or less confirm that propbeanie's solution seem to work or at least is part of the solution. I was gonna satiate my FotRSU cravings and installed SH4+Uboat through Steam on my Win10 v2004 Build 19041. Refused to start on anything but the default 1024x768x60hz.

I naturally manually installed DirectX9 from the SH4\DirectX folder and applied the Large Address Aware.exe utility from FotRSU. I also tested various combinations of settings in the SH4.exe compatibility options, but the only one that seemed to work was the one that propbeanie mentions:

Change high DPI settings > Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by: Application.

So now I'm currently running at least the FotRSU menu screen at 2560x1440x144hz and maximum graphics, using ONLY that particular setting above. Everything else is default/unchecked. And it makes sense that I had to change that setting, because I have both bad eye sight and high DPI monitors, so I scale them to 150%, and I have the "fix scaling for apps" set in the Windows advanced scaling settings. Probably something there that messes with the DPI which makes SH4.exe not work properly.

The next step is to figure out if anything else is needed in the compatibility settings to actually run the game and not just the menu :P

[propbeanie]

I am going to have to remember where I "hide" this picture, because I just spent fifteen minutes trying to find it again... lol - oldmanitis

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg


The "Disable fullscreen optimizations" might be what you're missing, if you hadn't clicked it. Another thing about the game, is that things would probably be easier to read at 1920x1080, set from inside the game. You could keep your 2560x1440 Windows settings, just set the game lower, since they are both 16:9 resolutions. You wouldn't need the 150% zoom then, which I am not certain the game would run at anyway...

[Chunky Moe]

Are these compatibility settings needed for everyone?
I'm running SH4 Gold from Ubisoft and it runs just fine at 1920x1080 @ 240Hz.
Just want to make sure if I need to do this to avoid any future problems as I havent played SH4 in ages.

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Chunky Moe!:Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Are these compatibility settings needed for everyone?
I'm running SH4 Gold from Ubisoft and it runs just fine at 1920x1080 @ 240Hz.
Just want to make sure if I need to do this to avoid any future problems as I havent played SH4 in ages.
No two computers are alike, so your mileage may vary. Some folks have to tick all of the boxes, some none... :salute:

[j13emperor]

Guys,

Need your help.
Haven't played the game for a while. I have a steam version of a game, but it just don't work. Crashes occur when trying to start new campaign, and game freezes when clicking on "Graphics Settings".
Upon entering museum I get a tab up top with ship type but the screen is black.
I tried everything that suggested here, DPI set correctly, run as admin and have properties on win7. DX9 installed as well.
I suppose, that it may have something with GPU, but cant find out, what's wrong.

P.S.
SH3 and SH5 same issue.

i9-10900K
32GB RAM
RTX 2070 SUPER
Win 10 x64

[propbeanie]

Did you install the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs with the game? The install routine menu will show them as an optional part, but they are not. The later versions of DirectX do not have the library files required of older games like the Silent Hunter series. If you crash anytime you go to do anything 3D in the game, that would be the suspect, or else the settings on the "Properties" page, as shown in post #195 on the preceding page here.

[j13emperor]

Did you install the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs with the game? The install routine menu will show them as an optional part, but they are not. The later versions of DirectX do not have the library files required of older games like the Silent Hunter series. If you crash anytime you go to do anything 3D in the game, that would be the suspect, or else the settings on the "Properties" page, as shown in post #195 on the preceding page here.

Thank you, but this does not help.
Properties and DirectX enabled is shown.
Little update, in museum not just black screen, you can actually "rotate" ships, but when you do so it is just flash of a light, i suppose when camera dives under water.
Also, I can start single missions, but unable to unpause it, also, all HUD is visible, but screen still is black.

Same bug SH3/SH5.

[propbeanie]

Then you are back to the previous page here, Post #195 (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2745558#post2745558) and the Properties settings for the SH4.exe file. You should, if at all possible, have Windows set to what the "native" resolution of your display monitor is, which Windows will identify as "(recommended)" in the display properties. Then try to set the game to the same thing. If you have a newer display, with really high resolution, you might have to reduce down to some other widescreen setting that allows parts of the display to be legible, such as the dials might be too small if you try to run at 4k, but 1920x1080 is a good substitute. You should not overdrive your display the other way though... :salute:

[Pnzrldr]

Propbeanie, or others, I still cannot get it to go. I've done the DPI scaling stuff to the SH4.exe. I have done a clean install to a non-program files folder (I partitioned my single drive, so Steam would let me create a new folder. Easy peasy). I have manually run the DXSETUP.exe which installed DX9. No mods loaded yet, though JSGME is loaded and snapshot done. LAA run IAW directions. When I run the game, the Ubisoft logo pops up fine, the movie runs fine, and then the background music comes on and I go to a black screen that won't change. I can't see or click anything, though the mouse is (sort of) live. I have to exit out.
1. When installing DX9, do I need to ALSO run the directx_dec2006_redist.exe file found in the SilentHunter/DirectX folder? I tried running it and it wanted a directory to put files into. Has this already been done by the setup exe or do I need this as well, and if so, where to put the files?
2. I am (somewhat against my will) running an AMD Radeon 6700XT GPU. Are there specific AMD / Radeon settings I need to adjust? I have always been an Nvidia guy, but could literally not buy one and got stuck with this. Any settings or other things to try?
3. Is there any way to mod a cfg or similar file to make the game boot into a usable graphics state, and then adjust further?
4. Any other ideas? Give up and just watch streams from guys who figured it out?

[propbeanie]

If you basically have a bone-stock install, try emptying the Save folder, which can be reached with several short-cuts in Win10, but is usually found in "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" or similar, depending upon your Windows version and install. That holds the information that the game runs off of. It might still have some old settings that are interfering with running the game now.

Next, the DirectX v9.0c is best installed from the game set-up. The disk version of the game will give you a menu of choices of parts to install, with "tick" boxes for the choices, such as the "DirectX v9.0C" and "DirectX Codecs". Both of those are important. The last time I did a Steam install, I did not see those choices, and I cannot remember them from my Ubisoft Connect install, so I cannot help you there, but you do need both parts. However, if they installed with the game, you should NOT need to use the MS distributable package. Overwriting should also do no harm though.

Once those are set-up, the actual video stream configuration can be a source of troubles. The display monitor will have a "Native" resolution, such as a 4k monitor might be 4096 × 2160, but not always. My monitor has 1920x1080 as its "Native". In any case, the Windows display drive (whether ATI, nVidia or Intel or whatever) should be set to the same, which Windows would display as "(recommended)", such as "1920x1080 (recommended)" for my monitor. Then in the game, set the game's display to that also, which is on the Options, Graphic Settings pages. Some users cannot find an exact match to their displays, but if you can't find an exact match, choose the same aspect ratio, such as another 16:9 choice, that is lower than what your display is.

Looking at that picture on the previous page:
https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg

On my one computer with the larger display and dual vid cards, after clicking on the "Change high DPI settings", I had to click that top box for "Program DPI" "Use this setting for...", which then enables the "Use the DPI that's set for my main display when" and I chose the "I open this program" from the drop-down box in the middle of that 2nd window - In addition to using the "High DPI scaling override" and setting it to "Override high DPI scaling behavior - Scaling performed by:" and "Application". So on the main "Compatibility" page, I have "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and "Windows 7", "Disable fullscreen optimization" and "Run this program as an administrator", in addition to that "Change high DPI settings". No two of my computers have the same set of settings there though...

[Pnzrldr]

Ok,

Sorry for the fuss. I am not sure which setting it was, but I opened the AMD Radeon Graphics settings for the application, found several modern game graphics optimizations turned on. I switched them all off, including Radeon Anti-Lag, Radeon Chill, Radeon Image Sharpening and under the Advanced tab, Surface Format Optimization. Essentially turned off everything in the Radeon settings. This coupled with the DPI/compatibility adjustments to the SH4.exe seem to have finally gotten me to the start screen! More to follow if I cannot successfully run FOTRS but hopefully this has done the trick.

[propbeanie]

I don't know what happened to my picture link... but I did fix that above...

Where do you have the SH4 game installed? Had you previously attempted to mod the game?

[LOELI12]

Today, I purchased Silent Hunter 4 "Gold" using the Ubisoft Connect Interface for approx. 4$. The download and Installation was done by Ubisoft Connect. The game is now part of several Ubisoft games in the Ubisoft Connect interface. To get the gamin running, only a single measure was necessary. I had to set for SH4.exe: Properties,Compatibility,change high DPI setting, Override high DPI scaling behavior ... performed by Application.
Nothing else was necessary and the sim is running even with 3840x2160 dpi.
It was absolutely worth 4$.
Bruno

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LOELI12!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Today, I purchased Silent Hunter 4 "Gold" using the Ubisoft Connect Interface for approx. 4$. The download and Installation was done by Ubisoft Connect. The game is now part of several Ubisoft games in the Ubisoft Connect interface. To get the gamin running, only a single measure was necessary. I had to set for SH4.exe: Properties,Compatibility,change high DPI setting, Override high DPI scaling behavior ... performed by Application.
Nothing else was necessary and the sim is running even with 3840x2160 dpi.
It was absolutely worth 4$.
Bruno

Great first post and welcome to SubSim :Kaleun_Salute:

[Jonesy]

Today, I purchased Silent Hunter 4 "Gold" using the Ubisoft Connect Interface for approx. 4$. The download and Installation was done by Ubisoft Connect. The game is now part of several Ubisoft games in the Ubisoft Connect interface. To get the gamin running, only a single measure was necessary. I had to set for SH4.exe: Properties,Compatibility,change high DPI setting, Override high DPI scaling behavior ... performed by Application.
Nothing else was necessary and the sim is running even with 3840x2160 dpi.
It was absolutely worth 4$.
Bruno

here I was struggling with SH4 installation on my new laptop and I come here and find the fix in your post right away!

Thanks a bunch :Kaleun_Salute:

[lonehawknz]

Thanks for all the advice and prior posts above guys. Very helpful.

Unfortunately, having tried literally all of them, with a copy of Win10 and SH4 Gold, unmodded but with all of the above suggestions having been tried, I still get a crash on load OR about 20-30secs of 3D game time and then a crash. And it's not just a CTD, my entire system freezes and I have to do a hard reset. It is as though the GPU just gives up. Hopeless and annoying... :wah:


I've got the game stored in a non Program Files folder, on a separate partition
I've set all files to read-write
I've applied LAA
I've got the game set to run as Admin
I've applied the DPI settings
I've got it set to Disable Full Screen Optimization
I've got it set to Win7 Compatibility
I've tried in both Windowed and Full Screen mode 1920x1080


Any ideas? I'm fast losing the will - which is a shame as I swear it used to run fine on Win10 only just a year ago!

TIA

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Aktungbby]

lonehawknz:Kaleun_Salute: I see the infamous :subsim:-seven-year-itch has hit you twice! nice 14 year silent run!:up:

[lonehawknz]

lonehawknz:Kaleun_Salute: I see the infamous :subsim:-seven-year-itch has hit you twice! nice 14 year silent run!:up:


:D:up:

[propbeanie]

Do you have a disk version of Gold? If you do, did you install the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs? If you have a recent download version, those usually will automatically install the dll needed by the game. You mention 1920x1080 - is that what your monitor's "native" resolution is? Windows refers to the native setting as "(recommended)" in the resolution settings dialog.

[lonehawknz]

Do you have a disk version of Gold? If you do, did you install the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs? If you have a recent download version, those usually will automatically install the dll needed by the game. You mention 1920x1080 - is that what your monitor's "native" resolution is? Windows refers to the native setting as "(recommended)" in the resolution settings dialog.

It's the Ubisoft Connect (ex-uPlay) version of Gold. It did do the DirectX install post-main installation but I've re-run it manually as well. No improvement.

My monitor's native resolution is 1920x1080 and that's what I've set the game to as well.

Thanks for getting back to me propbeanie. I am a bit stumped as to what else I could try!

[propbeanie]

... and no mods yet... hmmm

Just double-checking, but the image on the page before:

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg


The littler window is from clicking the "Change high DPI settings" button, of course, and I have a computer where I had to use that top section, clicking on the "Use this setting to fix scaling problems..." tick box, and then on the "Use the DPI that's set for my main display:" and on the drop-down use "When I start this program". I have since been able to disable that section after a video card driver update (2x nVidia 980s).

I suppose when you open the "Properties" dialog there, you should revisit that first tab for "General", and make certain the "Attributes" section for "Read-only" is cleared fershure ferserttin...

You should not have any issues getting stock to run in WinVista through 11 with no problems. I have four computers with it on them, and one is VGA, one is DVI, one is HDMI & one is that video connect thingie... all have slightly different settings for that "Properties" "Compatibility" page.

Just happened to think - has the Ubisoft Connect updated, and "authorized" the license? That def has to be done with a UConnect version, similar to what the Steam version does.

[lonehawknz]

... and no mods yet... hmmm

Just double-checking, but the image on the page before:

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg


The littler window is from clicking the "Change high DPI settings" button, of course, and I have a computer where I had to use that top section, clicking on the "Use this setting to fix scaling problems..." tick box, and then on the "Use the DPI that's set for my main display:" and on the drop-down use "When I start this program". I have since been able to disable that section after a video card driver update (2x nVidia 980s).

I suppose when you open the "Properties" dialog there, you should revisit that first tab for "General", and make certain the "Attributes" section for "Read-only" is cleared fershure ferserttin...

You should not have any issues getting stock to run in WinVista through 11 with no problems. I have four computers with it on them, and one is VGA, one is DVI, one is HDMI & one is that video connect thingie... all have slightly different settings for that "Properties" "Compatibility" page.

Just happened to think - has the Ubisoft Connect updated, and "authorized" the license? That def has to be done with a UConnect version, similar to what the Steam version does.


All authorised and I'm able to get right the way through to the 3d gameplay setting. It then inevitably crashes after between 1 and 30secs in.

And I've set all the additional settings in your post above. I suspect it may be a graphics settings issue (as in an issue with my GFX card or the nVidia settings themselves). I use DisplayPort.

Definitely Read-Write rather than Read-Only.

Thank you for you ongoing efforts Sir! I am beginning to feel like a troublesome patient!

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[lonehawknz]

Found the issue. Finally managed to capture a crash with a specific event log. Whenever the whole pc crashed of course, all I would get in Event Viewer was the "PC reset unexpectedly" whereas yesterday, tinkering with unloading apps from my system tray I finally managed to get a CTD instead of a full hard reboot.

Kernel.dll was the faulting module. Instantly one thinks of ROM and RAM.

I unloaded everything from my system tray, reverted the startup application set to the bare minimum, loaded up the game and I can report all 4 training missions ran fine with no crashes.

Now to try modding up. But I think we've found the culprit, Meiner Herren!

Thanks Propbeanie, for all your help. Hopefully my solution will also help some Commanders who may have had the same issue. Can't believe it comes back to that old chestnut of memory limits.

Huzzah!

:Kaleun_Wink:

[propbeanie]

Hmmm... I wonder if some one of the background apps was "killing" the SH4.exe? Like something "3D" for the vid card??

[lonehawknz]

I'm going to say Nahimic Companion. As I've had a repeat CTD with it loaded and conversely not suffered any issues once I exited it from the system tray.

Really annoying as of course you can't remove it.

:k_confused:

[propbeanie]

Most interesting... That one is a tough bugger to get rid of too, from what I have read. It is a "legit" app for the modern OS and hardware, but I can also see where it would muck-up an old game install, attempting to control all things audio, like Nahimic Companion does... I did find an MS Community posting (https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/nahimic-companion-installed-itself-after-the/8ab3aa85-2f94-4d7a-853a-e9c561413a13) about getting rid of it, if you want. You do have to read the whole page, including the "Replies (10)" at the bottom of the page. I wonder if that's what is causing a CMD.exe window to pop open on my one laptop now? I don't try to run SH4 on it, but I might give it a whirl there and see if it crashes...

[lonehawknz]

Most interesting... That one is a tough bugger to get rid of too, from what I have read. It is a "legit" app for the modern OS and hardware, but I can also see where it would muck-up an old game install, attempting to control all things audio, like Nahimic Companion does... I did find an MS Community posting (https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/nahimic-companion-installed-itself-after-the/8ab3aa85-2f94-4d7a-853a-e9c561413a13) about getting rid of it, if you want. You do have to read the whole page, including the "Replies (10)" at the bottom of the page. I wonder if that's what is causing a CMD.exe window to pop open on my one laptop now? I don't try to run SH4 on it, but I might give it a whirl there and see if it crashes...

You Sir, are a true CTD bloodhound!!!

:Kaleun_Salute:

[propbeanie]

Well, it is part of my avatar "CTD - it's not just a job", it's an adventure... btw, CTD is "Crash To Desktop", and "Compulsive Tweaking Disorder". In this case, it applies to both... :arrgh!:

I am currently on that laptop, and SH4 plays fine with the onboard Intel IRIS graphics, though I did encounter a "smoke" anomaly just now, so I dunno. I've never had "stuttering" smoke in SH4 before, and at that, on only one of seven ships smoking and on fire, so go figure. This computer does NOT show Nahimic Companion running, but it does have the signs of it, just nothing listed, as that user on the MS Community reported. Why are they trying to hide it? I'm sure it's for a "seamless user experience"... :roll:

[Mad Mardigan]

Well, it is part of my avatar "CTD - it's not just a job", it's an adventure... btw, CTD is "Crash To Desktop", and "Compulsive Tweaking Disorder". In this case, it applies to both... :arrgh!:

I am currently on that laptop, and SH4 plays fine with the onboard Intel IRIS graphics, though I did encounter a "smoke" anomaly just now, so I dunno. I've never had "stuttering" smoke in SH4 before, and at that, on only one of seven ships smoking and on fire, so go figure. This computer does NOT show Nahimic Companion running, but it does have the signs of it, just nothing listed, as that user on the MS Community reported. Why are they trying to hide it? I'm sure it's for a "seamless user experience"... :roll:

I'd like to show Microsoft... just what I think of their... "seamless user experience"... take it, & shove it up their "aft torpedo tube".... :arrgh!: :shucks:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

[lonehawknz]

Well, it is part of my avatar "CTD - it's not just a job", it's an adventure... btw, CTD is "Crash To Desktop", and "Compulsive Tweaking Disorder". In this case, it applies to both... :arrgh!:

I am currently on that laptop, and SH4 plays fine with the onboard Intel IRIS graphics, though I did encounter a "smoke" anomaly just now, so I dunno. I've never had "stuttering" smoke in SH4 before, and at that, on only one of seven ships smoking and on fire, so go figure. This computer does NOT show Nahimic Companion running, but it does have the signs of it, just nothing listed, as that user on the MS Community reported. Why are they trying to hide it? I'm sure it's for a "seamless user experience"... :roll:


Quite! ;)

Thanks again mate!

[hunter301]

...First, I noticed that on Silent Hunter 3, there was a check mark on "Disable display scaling on high DPI setting", which wasn't there on Silent Hunter 4...

I checked that box on properties of my shortcut and back in business!

Thanks Ensign!

I don't know where all these boxes are to check or uncheck.
I can't get any farther than the intros and then it goes to a completely black screen. I can't exit out of it or anything. Have to keep restarting my computer.
The frustrating thing is I bought the gold pack digital download off Amazon back in 2019 and loaded it on this same computer and except for a few minor display adjustments in the display section of the game everything was fine.
Now I'm trying to load it up again, Had to deleted it due to lack of hard drive space and wanting to try other things but every time I try to start the game it goes thru the intros and straight to a black screen.
I haven't changed anything on my laptop since it was last loaded.

[propbeanie]

Silent Hunter on the 'modern' computer and OS can be a bother, and is does not matter the source of the game, whether Amazon or Steam or Ubisoft, they ALL default to installing the game in the "C:\Program Files (x86) \..." folder. My Steam install is "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamApps \common \Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific". My Ubisoft is "C:\Program Files (x86) \Ubisoft \Ubisoft Game Launcher \..." The Amazon install is probably similar, though I do not recall their specific install path. But those paths are where you find the "SH4.exe" file for changing the "Properties" of for High DPI Scaling, etc. spoken of by several of the posters here. The link that Rhodes gave you in the other thread (Running older games on Win10 (Ubisoft Game Launcher)) is a really good find. Amazon's install would be similar. It is best if you install the game in a folder of your own creation, especially if you are going to add a mod to the game, since Windows will stop any changing of the files in a Program Files folder.

I would uninstall what you have again, then run the installer again, and when it shows the path it wants to install the game to (C:\Program Files (x86)...), just change that path to "C:\MyGames", or whatever name you want, so that you would not have Windows getting in your way. The Amazon app does make a short-cut, but it usually does not "point" to where you want, and changing the Properties gets rather involved with several "Find Target" moves in File Explorer. With this, all you need to do is open File Explorer, open your new MyGames folder, and start rooting through there, finding "SH4.exe", then set the "Properties" as described in other posts. You will have to experiment, since no two computers seem to handle things the same...

[hunter301]

I actually have an older box version DVD of the game but it wouldn't load up the right way either.
So when I was working out of town in 2019 I purchased the full version with updates (U-boat addon) thru Amazon.
Which would we better to try again on, the older box version or the newer download full version from my Amazon account.

[Mad Mardigan]

I actually have an older box version DVD of the game but it wouldn't load up the right way either.
So when I was working out of town in 2019 I purchased the full version with updates (U-boat addon) thru Amazon.
Which would we better to try again on, the older box version or the newer download full version from my Amazon account.

Be it, a dislike for Ubi due to their bungling man handling of the SH lineage... that aside, Myself would have gone with grabbing SH4 from Ubi.

That said...

if I am understanding you rightly... that box version of 4, is 1 in which would needs be... updated with the Uboat add in Ubi released...

if such is correct, then you have that... Amazon full version (meaning "Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific U-Boat Missions" v1.5)...

That, is the version I would roll with, instead of the older, boxed copy.

The Amazon one.


In addition... I did reply to your last post there, on the "No SH4..." thread.


Any rate... hope this info, helps... as always... :shucks: :yep: :up:





:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

[hunter301]

Be it, a dislike for Ubi due to their bungling man handling of the SH lineage... that aside, Myself would have gone with grabbing SH4 from Ubi.

That said...

if I am understanding you rightly... that box version of 4, is 1 in which would needs be... updated with the Uboat add in Ubi released...

if such is correct, then you have that... Amazon full version (meaning "Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific U-Boat Missions" v1.5)...

That, is the version I would roll with, instead of the older, boxed copy.

The Amazon one.


In addition... I did reply to your last post there, on the "No SH4..." thread.


Any rate... hope this info, helps... as always... :shucks: :yep: :up:





:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

Saw your additional reply and thanks for any help.
It's no wonder X-box and PlayStation pushed PC games into the dark ages.
People get so sick of dealing with this crap.
All I want to do is load a game and have some fun.
I work a 50 to 60 hour week job managing construction so the only time I have to do any of this is at night when I get home and I'm usually dead tired or on the weekends when I've got the honey do list so it doesn't leave a lot of time for playing much less screwing around with files.
Damn!!!
Now I'm having to mess with files that I'm not sure of what I'm doing because I don't deal a lot with the coding of games.
My biggest problem is I'm either not seeing the files you guys are referring to or they are some where besides in my SH4 file such as the main.cfg file.
I'm in central Florida, USA so it's middle of the day and been up on the roof cleaning gutters but a rain storm came and gave me some relief.
Temporary as it may be.
One Question...
When I go to load the game from my Amazon Gold Addition it's not giving me a choice as to where it goes.
It loads it straight into a Ubi file.
I'd like to load into its own file on the C: drive such as C:/SH4 but the download is not giving me that option.
Any suggestions how I can keep that from happening?

[Mad Mardigan]

Saw your additional reply and thanks for any help.
It's no wonder X-box and PlayStation pushed PC games into the dark ages.
People get so sick of dealing with this crap.
All I want to do is load a game and have some fun.
I work a 50 to 60 hour week job managing construction so the only time I have to do any of this is at night when I get home and I'm usually dead tired or on the weekends when I've got the honey do list so it doesn't leave a lot of time for playing much less screwing around with files.
Damn!!!
Now I'm having to mess with files that I'm not sure of what I'm doing because I don't deal a lot with the coding of games.
My biggest problem is I'm either not seeing the files you guys are referring to or they are some where besides in my SH4 file such as the main.cfg file.
I'm in central Florida, USA so it's middle of the day and been up on the roof cleaning gutters but a rain storm came and gave me some relief.
Temporary as it may be.
One Question...
When I go to load the game from my Amazon Gold Addition it's not giving me a choice as to where it goes.
It loads it straight into a Ubi file.
I'd like to load into its own file on the C: drive such as C:/SH4 but the download is not giving me that option.
Any suggestions how I can keep that from happening?

I feel ya, on that 1st half of your reply...

On the front lines of your query...

Not gonna be of much help there... sorry, know that isn't what you're looking for there... thing is... I have no experience as it pertains to any games/downloads... basically anything to do with getting games from... Amazon... nada, non, el zippo... a big, fat... goose egg (0)... :oops:


My forte, relies more on source from say... Steam, to be frank, for how to work within their system there... to be able to multi copy SH4 & mod them out... have gotten fairly... proficient in that... & remembering lil'... tid bits of info, such as the reply to you there in the No SH4... thread, being just 1 tid bit of info, gleaned along the way. :shucks:





:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

[hunter301]

Well that didn't work.
Loaded game into C:\SH4 and it went thru the same process.
Showed intros and then the black screen of death and had to CTL-ALT-DELETE to reboot the computer.
I did find what may be the main.cfg file everyone's talking about in the SH4/DATA/Cfg file but being a total novice I'm not even sure if that's what I'm supposed to be looking for.
:Kaleun_Mad:

[hunter301]

I feel ya, on that 1st half of your reply...

On the front lines of your query...

Not gonna be of much help there... sorry, know that isn't what you're looking for there... thing is... I have no experience as it pertains to any games/downloads... basically anything to do with getting games from... Amazon... nada, non, el zippo... a big, fat... goose egg (0)... :oops:


My forte, relies more on source from say... Steam, to be frank, for how to work within their system there... to be able to multi copy SH4 & mod them out... have gotten fairly... proficient in that... & remembering lil'... tid bits of info, such as the reply to you there in the No SH4... thread, being just 1 tid bit of info, gleaned along the way. :shucks:





:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

At this point I would spend the $9.99 and buy the single version of the game again from Steam and just download the V1.4 upgrade without U-boat upgrade just to play again but I don't think it's going to solve the Black Screen of Death" problem that I'm having.
Would really piss me off to drop another ten bucks on the game just to have the same problems.
I also want to be able to install some of the better mods to the game so I don't want it to be complicated with Steam interventions.

[Mad Mardigan]

At this point I would spend the $9.99 and buy the single version of the game again from Steam and just download the V1.4 upgrade without U-boat upgrade just to play again but I don't think it's going to solve the Black Screen of Death" problem that I'm having.
Would really piss me off to drop another ten bucks on the game just to have the same problems.
I also want to be able to install some of the better mods to the game so I don't want it to be complicated with Steam interventions.

Are you part of the subsim group there on Discord, by chance... cause if so... hit Me up there... am signed in on it & under the same moniker, as here...

Mad Mardigan



Standing by... :up:




:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

[hunter301]

Are you part of the subsim group there on Discord, by chance... cause if so... hit Me up there... am signed in on it & under the same moniker, as here...

Mad Mardigan



Standing by... :up:




:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

Not sure what you mean by "discord". I see the link and went to it but not sure what that is.
As you can see I've been a member since 2003 when I used to play Jane's 688i and have been off and on over the years.
Have donated several times but I'm not any kind of regular paying member.
Does Subsim sell the game outright?
I've looked for it on the site but only find mods and of course Wolfpack.
Not interested in getting back into the U-boats. Just really love the long sleek fleet class boats of the USN.

BTW..I may go dark for a while.
Storms have passed and need to get back up on the roof before dark.
will check back this evening.

[Mad Mardigan]

Not sure what you mean by "discord". I see the link and went to it but not sure what that is.
As you can see I've been a member since 2003 when I used to play Jane's 688i and have been off and on over the years.
Have donated several times but I'm not any kind of regular paying member.
Does Subsim sell the game outright?
I've looked for it on the site but only find mods and of course Wolfpack.
Not interested in getting back into the U-boats. Just really love the long sleek fleet class boats of the USN.

BTW..I may go dark for a while.
Storms have passed and need to get back up on the roof before dark.
will check back this evening.

Discord is a... chat app, sort of like Skype but for gamers... to converse vocally & in some instances vid wise, as well.

Yeah, saw that... as for Subsim selling SH4 outright like Steam, Ubi, Amazon... that'd be a big, emphatic... No.... they don't... it is just a hub, for subsim enthusiasts to get together, modders as well... for the most part. That's it.

Right now, My only thing is... in helping "you" to be able to get back into the saddle as it were, metaphorically speaking... & be able to enjoy SH4 again... in U.S. subs format, if that's what blows your hair back. :up:

Can understand that, about bad waether... do what ya gotta... will check back after a bit later on... & take it from there... :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up: :Kaleun_Cheers:


Stay safe... & hopefully can catch up & get this sorted out... :up:




:Kaleun_Salute:


M. M.

[propbeanie]

Well that didn't work.
Loaded game into C:\SH4 and it went thru the same process.
Showed intros and then the black screen of death and had to CTL-ALT-DELETE to reboot the computer.
I did find what may be the main.cfg file everyone's talking about in the SH4/DATA/Cfg file but being a total novice I'm not even sure if that's what I'm supposed to be looking for.
:Kaleun_Mad:
If you haven't installed the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs when doing the SH4 install, then the game does not have the "library" files to call for the display. This is automatically done with the Steam version, and I ~thought~ the Amazon download also - but maybe not... The disk version has it on the install menu.

Also, after installing the game, especially if you have a newer computer and OS, you HAVE to find the SH4.exe file in your install directory (folder), and set the Properties on the "Compatibility" tab such that it will properly display on your computer. The symptoms of failure to do that are similar to a DirectX problem in that the screen goes black and you cannot see the 3D portion of the game running. This is the price we pay for running a 2005 game, built for Windows XP, in the 'modern' Windows. Even if you have DirectX v27 though, you NEED the files in the DirectX v9.0c install. It will not overwrite anything, just add to it.

[hunter301]

If you haven't installed the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs when doing the SH4 install, then the game does not have the "library" files to call for the display. This is automatically done with the Steam version, and I ~thought~ the Amazon download also - but maybe not... The disk version has it on the install menu.

Also, after installing the game, especially if you have a newer computer and OS, you HAVE to find the SH4.exe file in your install directory (folder), and set the Properties on the "Compatibility" tab such that it will properly display on your computer. The symptoms of failure to do that are similar to a DirectX problem in that the screen goes black and you cannot see the 3D portion of the game running. This is the price we pay for running a 2005 game, built for Windows XP, in the 'modern' Windows. Even if you have DirectX v27 though, you NEED the files in the DirectX v9.0c install. It will not overwrite anything, just add to it.

Everything loads up as it did in the past. DirectX v9.0c is in the load of items to load and I leave it in there to load up.
The only item in the install list that I deselect to load is the "Gameshadow App".
Sorry not happening..hate those things plus it's so far in the past I don't even know if they still exist.
I was wondering why it's not asking for the individual key code in order to load up the game. Just goes right past that step.
Game seems to load fine then once it's finished there's absolutely nothing on my desktop or in my menu bar to show that the game even exist on computer. I have to go into the actual file explorer and find the Run application in the file and click on it then the start menu comes up for either:
Play
Readme
Uninstall
Manual

The problem with trying to set the SH4.exe to compatibility mode is..
There is no SH4.exe in my SH4 folder that is installed on the computer.
I only have an SH4.icon and SH4 application.

[hunter301]

The only thing I get when I right click for a menu on the file is a "troubleshoot compatibility" tab that bring up a small list of possible problems and then ask me to test run the program and guess what happens then...
Black Screen
CTL-ALT-DELETE
restart the system....AGAIN!!
I did start checking on the boxes one at a time and one of them sent me to another screen asking what form of windows the game last ran on.
Windows 10 is not on the list but windows 7 is.

[hunter301]

The only thing I get when I right click for a menu on the file is a "troubleshoot compatibility" tab that bring up a small list of possible problems and then ask me to test run the program and guess what happens then...
Black Screen
CTL-ALT-DELETE
restart the system....AGAIN!!
I did start checking on the boxes one at a time and one of them sent me to another screen asking what form of windows the game last ran on.
Windows 10 is not on the list but windows 7 is.

After doing some research and looking at the dates I see that the last computer I had this on was on Windows 7.
Bought the game in March of 2019 but didn't get this computer with Window 10 until later and never loaded it up on the new computer because I went out of town for 18 months.
Should I do a test it's asking by selecting Windows 7 as the last system it was run on?

[Mad Mardigan]

After doing some research and looking at the dates I see that the last computer I had this on was on Windows 7.
Bought the game in March of 2019 but didn't get this computer with Window 10 until later and never loaded it up on the new computer because I went out of town for 18 months.
Should I do a test it's asking by selecting Windows 7 as the last system it was run on?

Can't hurt... :hmmm:

Test it & see if it'll allow the game to run, if nothing else... can scratch it off the list as... tried. :yep:



M. M. :Kaleun_Cheers:

[hunter301]

Can't hurt... :hmmm:

Test it & see if it'll allow the game to run, if nothing else... can scratch it off the list as... tried. :yep:



M. M. :Kaleun_Cheers:

Well I can take compatibility mode off the list.
Went thru every possible scenario and kept getting the black screen and had to reboot every time.

Just can't help but feel I'm having an issue with the install process, otherwise I would have the game listed with shortcuts on the menu bar.
It's not even asking for an activation code when installing.

[hunter301]

FINALLY GOT IT WORKING....PARTIALLY!
Found this Youtube link for modifing .cfg files to all No in video settings so I did this for both .cfg files.
Now the game starts and I everything works fine the only problem is it's in a small windows screen that doesn't fill the monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERG4a19yFk

[hunter301]

Weird.
No matter what I do I can get it out of the smaller 1024x768 windows mode.
Even says it in a white bar at the top of the screen but screen doesn't fit the rest of the monitor that is running at 1900x600:60

[hunter301]

YES!!!
One more step closer to home.
Found out what the resolution issue was, for me at least. I finally am able to play the game without a window in window mode.
Seems I was having Direct X conflicts between files and newer systems not loading up the correct .dll files it needed. Just copied (2) .dll files from one SH4 folder with the SystemWOW64 file and dropped them in the main SH4 file and I'm good.
See attached attached article link for instructions.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/15200/discussions/0/3342162929522056541/

[Brightstar6]

:yeah:I FINALLY have the sim working again, but in premod mode only seems i am having problems with the JSGME.. I install get the mod folder in silent hunter and when i send a mod to the folder it does not show in the mod folder..:hmmm::timeout:
Update!! I have figured it out!! Put SH4 in a file not run by c:program.. I put mine in the g: drive, now run jsgme and put it in G/sh4, next move your mods to G/silent hunter4/mods..Your jsgme should work now and using the desktop jsgme short cut enable your mods.. It took m about 4 months to figure this out..I am now hunting Japanese!!!

[Red Devil]

now on win 11 and everything seemed good until yesterday. The graphic content is not quite right. Not sure how to describe it. the edges of the items seems blotchy, broken. I may uninstall it and try again. Also, still, problems with JSGME - I cant load mods

[Fuerte14]

Has any of you had the issue that I have? Just installed SH4 1.05, trying to change settings in game or begin a career/mission/whatever - game freezes with the mouse cursor on button. And only can be recovered via Task Manager.

Copying dlls from SysWOW64 folder doesnt help, as well as changing settings in Main.cfg. Need help

[propbeanie]

If that is a bare-bones stock game doing that, it sounds like you have a disk version, and neglected to install the DirectX v9.0c and Codecs -OR- you need to change the SH4.exe "Properties" settings (maybe both DirectX and Properties??) by navigating into the game folder, find the SH4.exe file, right-click on it, and then left-click on the "Properties" entry at the bottom of the context menu. That will open the "Properties" settings window, of course, and you will have to experiment with the settings there, as found in this Win10 screen grab:

https://i.imgur.com/bP46VIS.jpg

from a couple of pages before this.

A couple of notes: First, if you plan on modding the game, do not install it in the default location, which would be a "Program Files" folder. You want to make your own install folder, and put it in there instead. That way, Windows (usually) will not interfere with any mods that you add to the game. Secondly, anytime you make changes to the mod configuration, you usually will have to empty the Save folder, which under normal circumstances is "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4", unless you have used MultiSH4 and changed it. As for the DirectX files, you do need to install DirectX v9 files, since those files are missing in all the versions since. Nothing is overwritten by them, they just add to the dll collection. If you use a Steam or Ubisoft download, those usually automatically install those files. Once in the game, you want to match the Graphic Settings to what the "(recommended)" setting in Windows is, since that is your display's "Native" resolution...

[Red Devil]

well in Prop - dont know how many times I've been in those folders - AGH!!! :arrgh!: