Shootout in Palestine, Texas: This is How Fast it Happens! [VIDEO]

[Onkel Neal]

Man, oh man, what was this dope thinking? (http://fishgame.com/2015/07/shootout-in-palestine/) :o

Police later determined the weapon was a BB gun designed to look like a 9 mm handgun, leaving unanswered questions about why Bushey drew the firearm in the first place.

Uh, I would say he wasn't thinking straight. Bad idea, pulling any kind of weapon while two cops are standing next to you.

Caution: Links to page with officer bodycams, and the videos are a graphic portrayal of pulling a gun on an officer.

On Officer Greens video @ 1:06 -- "You got the gun? I got him"? You sure did, wow, I was impressed with his reaction time.

Body cameras for th win.

Sidenote: I am going out to this part of the state to look at some land next week. Glad to know there's one less criminal there. :shucks:

[Schroeder]

How stupid is it to draw a BB gun on two armed police officers?:doh:

[Stealhead]

Notice how the guy kept his hands up and was tapping his finger on the other hand? I've been told by people trained in body language that that and other actions with the hands such as clapping them is a strong indication that the person is about to fight or considering fighting.

Something to consider when you are out and about. If you encounter a person and they display this kind of body language along with other verbal cues they may be ready to act violently. Not saying you'll have to shoot them but you may have to defend yourself.

I notice the Glock has the flashing light too probably a pressure switch on the stock. Also displays why the Glock is so popular trigger safety thus safe to carry fully loaded with a round chambered and only your trigger finger to deactivate safety.

Wonder if the man was planning suicide by cop or just thought he'd maybe thought he'd grab the female officer and hold her?

Unfortunate that the man chose to do that but who knows what he was thinking.




Edit: viewing the females she hesitated to engage

EDIT EDIT: this dose confirm my theory if you like take her to Chili's if you don't like her take her to Applebee's.

[Armistead]

notice the male shot him several times and the female capped him the last 3 times after he was down.....always got to have the last shot as well!

[Stealhead]

notice the male shot him several times and the female capped him the last 3 times after he was down.....always got to have the last shot as well!

I think that everything to do with one officers firearms skill level and and others lower skill level and nothing to do with the sex of either. Not to mention the fact that given the situation she probably hesitated because she didn't want to accidentally shot the other officer. I said that she did hesitate not that she did a poor job. Rember we are watched this from a position of comfort we aren't having to make a life or death decision in seconds. I bet that female officer is better than 50% of American gun owners.

This guy can't not shoot himself and he is in no danger at all well not counting himself.

EDIT: he says a bad word
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LE32Riyugg

[Harvs]

Clown down.

[Betonov]

Strobing lights on the pistol.
Good one. Strobing lights confuse the person on the other end and still provide an illumination for the officer.

[Jimbuna]

First class appropriate response.

[Stealhead]

Strobing lights on the pistol.
Good one. Strobing lights confuse the person on the other end and still provide an illumination for the officer.

Indeed a very useful tool at close range of course from a distance perhaps a disadvantage. I assume it was activated by a pressure switch. That one was white but I believe they also make green as well.

[Nippelspanner]

Didn't follow the story further, but that could be a suicide-by-cop situation.
AFAIK, he caused trouble in that restaurants restroom, maybe to provoke a police response, and then drew his BB gun to, maybe, provoke deadly force.
I have no other explanation that would make 'sense'.

Good reaction of both officers though.

[Oberon]

Good work by the cops there, this shows how much good body cams can do in highlighting when police do their job right. I noted that the male office moved a knife out of the way ahead of the suspect whilst they were exiting the restaurant.
If I had to guess I'd say that the suspect was either drunk or more likely had mental issues, he did not seem under duress when confronted by the officers, and was calm and collected to the moment he pulled out the gun.

[Catfish]

I don't get it.
Police arrests a man, ok he follows. Smiling? Can't really see that, but even when ..
Then leaving the flat, the female officer abruptly turns at him as if boxing him, when he turns and runs away.
Then the shots. Huh?

edit: saw the second vid, he pulled a weapon, very dumb. it seems he did not take the situation seriously. Drunk? Drugs?

[Stealhead]

I don't get it.
Police arrests a man, ok he follows. Smiling? Can't really see that, but even when ..
Then leaving the flat, the female officer abruptly turns at him as if boxing him, when he turns and runs away.
Then the shots. Huh?

edit: saw the second vid, he pulled a weapon, very dumb. it seems he did not take the situation seriously. Drunk? Drugs?


They hadn't yet arrested him they had made contact and advised him that he was a person of interest. Until they give him Miranda rights he is not under arrest. In the US it is legal to temporarily detain a person while the situation is ascertained that person can then be arrested or released.

What they where in the process of doing was getting him outside of the resteraunt where they would either have detained or immediately effected an arrest. It of course did not get to that point.

I think that this mans intent was to be killed by the police. He had stolen from a nearby store and then went into the restaurant. I think he may have planned to commit the minor crime to get the police there to him then pull the BB gun as he did so that he'd get shot.

He could have drawn the gun at the location he stole from but didn't. I think he planned it that way so that his drawing of the gun would be a surprise and get the reaction that of course occur. He wanted to insure that deadly force was the only recourse.

[Penguin]

I agree, this looks like the guy planned it. I couldn't make out any orange cap on the BB gun, so it was modified in advance. Like Stealhead said, the folded hands also look planned, to suggest calmness and being no threat, hoping the cops would let their guard down. Glad the guy was "rational" enough to draw outside and not 20 seconds earlier in the seating area.

[Stealhead]

The tapping of his hands was odd as well like he was thinking "am I ready to do this" they may have picked up on his body language as youll notice the officer flicks the steak knife out of reach on the table. Clapping of hands can be a sign of preperation but he didnt do that.His hat on the back says death as well can't make out what else it says wonder if he planned that or not.

Its a bit strange as your seeing the last few minutes of this mans life and it seems pretty clear that he planned to die.