I have to wonder, why

[mapuc]

This is a thought by me and there's no need to reply to it.

Yesterday on Danish TV a islamist- a Salafist said that no muslim should go and vote on the danish election(18 June)

The journalist asked him, now that he hate our democracy so much, why he lived in Denmark-his answer-to the journalist and the Danish viewer - to hell with your constitution.

And I truly wonder, why he and others like him, lives in the Westerne wold if they hates our democracy and the Westerns world constitution so much

Just a little thought...

Markus

Erase this thread if not suitable for GT.

[Dowly]

Paging Dr. Skybird

[Oberon]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

[Rockstar]

oh brother here come the "not all Muslims are extremists" crowd to the rescue.

Odd thing that crowd because very seldom if ever are non extremists the subject of any topic.

Just don't worry about the extremists who go around shooting and planting seeds of sedition and treason. Don't give them second thought, be tolerant mapuc because not all Muslims are extremists.

[mapuc]

oh brother here come the "not all Muslims are extremists" crowd to the rescue.

Odd thing that crowd because very seldom if ever are non extremists the subject of any topic.

Just don't worry about the extremists who go around shooting and planting seeds of sedition and treason. Don't give them second thought, be tolerant mapuc because not all Muslims are extremists.

I know. they count less than 1 % these radical Islamist

[Platapus]

We have a lot of Americans who choose not to vote also. In some elections a lot more than 50% choose not to vote.

A liberal democracy does not require its citizens to vote, but they are still citizens and have every right to live in the US.

[mapuc]

We have a lot of Americans who choose not to vote also. In some elections a lot more than 50% choose not to vote.

A liberal democracy does not require its citizens to vote, but they are still citizens and have every right to live in the US.

He, the person I'm talking about has every right to say what he means Its WHY he and his alike choose to live in the Western world if they hate it so much.

Markus

[Betonov]

He, the person I'm talking about has every right to say what he means Its WHY he and his alike choose to live in the Western world if they hate it so much.

Markus

Because he's probably got a plasma TV, German car and an air conditioned apartment when he'd have a junkyard salvaged catode TV, a beat up Yugo and a half room mud brick apartment back where he came from but can't resist being a jackass.

[Dowly]

They are well off living here, that's why.

[mapuc]

Because he's probably got a plasma TV, German car and an air conditioned apartment when he'd have a junkyard salvaged catode TV, a beat up Yugo and a half room mud brick apartment back where he came from but can't resist being a jackass.

A jackass that what he is for sure.

There are two things that make me mostly sad and angry.

1. Our politicians are trying to earn cheap voting points

2. Have already noticed, that some right wing groups is using his "speak" as an excuse for their hate.

Markus

[Oberon]

not all Muslims are extremists.

Indeed, just like not all Americans are trigger happy racists. :yep:

One must never assume the minority is the majority.

[Betonov]

A jackass that what he is for sure.

There are two things that make me mostly sad and angry.

1. Our politicians are trying to earn cheap voting points

2. Have already noticed, that some right wing groups is using his "speak" as an excuse for their hate.

Markus

I'd combine 1 and 2. Politicians and right wingers are using his speech for the same reason.

[HunterICX]

And I truly wonder, why he and others like him, lives in the Westerne wold if they hates our democracy and the Westerns world constitution so much


Welfare.
Liberties.
Freedoms.

Things they wouldn't get, be punished for or taken away if they tried to exploit in the country of origin.

[em2nought]

Islam = Borg, You might not get assimilated, maybe it will just be out reproduced. That is why he lives there. :har:

[mapuc]

Welfare.
Liberties.
Freedoms.

Things they wouldn't get, be punished for or taken away if they tried to exploit in the country of origin.

You, Betonov and Dowly are right, its our welfare.

He and his alike is fighting for getting Sharia and Islamic way of living into our society. I haven't, on tv and/or pictures, seen anything, that looks like our welfare, in these countries, where these people are coming from

Markus

[mapuc]

Islam = Borg, You might not get assimilated, maybe it will just be out reproduced. That is why he lives there. :har:

I don't see Muslim like that. Most about 95-99 % know how to behave.

Markus

[Betonov]

That's what I don't get. They suck our welfare and promote sharia, but as soon as sharia would take root the welfare would be gone...

Attention whoring if you ask me. A one man big brother cast.

[Oberon]

That's what I don't get. They suck our welfare and promote sharia, but as soon as sharia would take root the welfare would be gone...

Attention whoring if you ask me. A one man big brother cast.

Idiots come in all shapes and sizes. :03:

[Tango589]

Idiots come in all shapes and sizes. :03:
True that. Young, old, fat, thin, male, female, stupidity doesn't discriminate.

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/qIabMGF.jpg There you go...:D

[Jimbuna]

:ping::ping::ping:

[Wolferz]

Invoke his own Sharia law on him and cut out his tongue.:doh:

Not as bad as all the Moroccans who freaked out about a televised J. Lo performance.:haha:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/jennifer-lopez-sued-for-sexy-mawazine-festival-performance-in-morocco/ar-BBkMdvt?ocid=iehp

[Armistead]

You have a few percentage that live in other countries to push radical Islam, while whoring off welfare benefits.

[Betonov]

Not as bad as all the Moroccans who freaked out about a televised J. Lo performance.:haha:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/jennifer-lopez-sued-for-sexy-mawazine-festival-performance-in-morocco/ar-BBkMdvt?ocid=iehp

Did they thought she has actuall talent to sell :)

[AngusJS]

oh brother here come the "not all Muslims are extremists" crowd to the rescue.

Odd thing that crowd because very seldom if ever are non extremists the subject of any topic.

Just don't worry about the extremists who go around shooting and planting seeds of sedition and treason. Don't give them second thought, be tolerant mapuc because not all Muslims are extremists.Is making generalizations about all Muslims based on the idiotic statement of one of them ok?

If so, then we should also make generalizations about Jewish people or Christians based on the many, many idiotic things that members of those groups have said.

[nikimcbee]

You, Betonov and Dowly are right, its our welfare.

He and his alike is fighting for getting Sharia and Islamic way of living into our society. I haven't, on tv and/or pictures, seen anything, that looks like our welfare, in these countries, where these people are coming from

Markus

We have a winner.
That why Minnesota (afaik) has a huge (largest?) Somali population, they have very generous welfare benefits.

[mapuc]

Is making generalizations about all Muslims based on the idiotic statement of one of them ok?

If so, then we should also make generalizations about Jewish people or Christians based on the many, many idiotic things that members of those groups have said.

I do not hope that I, in my story, have given the impression that every Muslim is like that, if so I will try really hard next time to be better in English grammar and in explanation.

It's not the first time we have discussion about some Muslims behavior and it seems like there are some people that come rushing in and

write stuff like "not every Muslim is like that"

Of course not, not every Muslim behave badly.

Well that who I see it.
Be free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Markus

[AngusJS]

I do not hope that I, in my story, have given the impression that every Muslim is like that, if so I will try really hard next time to be better in English grammar and in explanation.

It's not the first time we have discussion about some Muslims behavior and it seems like there are some people that come rushing in and

write stuff like "not every Muslim is like that"

Of course not, not every Muslim behave badly.

Well that who I see it.
Be free to correct me if I'm wrong.

MarkusI was replying to Rockstar, not you. :) I didn't think you were proposing what he does. I just didn't see how his portraying an entire religion based on the words of one jackass is valid or useful.

That being said, there is a problem with Islam, and there is a problem with the Muslim immigrants who insist that their adopted countries bend to them, and not the other way around.

But this mindset that everyone else has to respect someone's beliefs, and must make special dispensations when "necessary" is by no means limited to Muslims or Islam. Orthodox Jewish men who refuse to sit next to women on public transport, faith-healing Christians who let their kids die rather than provide care that actually does something, or the Amish who demand (and are given) the right to keep their kids ignorant of the world by only schooling them to the 8th grade - they all come to mind.

[mapuc]

That being said, there is a problem with Islam, and there is a problem with the Muslim immigrants who insist that their adopted countries bend to them, and not the other way around.

But this mindset that everyone else has to respect someone's beliefs, and must make special dispensations when "necessary" is by no means limited to Muslims or Islam. Orthodox Jewish men who refuse to sit next to women on public transport, faith-healing Christians who let their kids die rather than provide care that actually does something, or the Amish who demand (and are given) the right to keep their kids ignorant of the world by only schooling them to the 8th grade - they all come to mind.

I couldn't agree more

Markus

[Platapus]

That being said, there is a problem with Islam, and there is a problem with the Muslim immigrants who insist that their adopted countries bend to them, and not the other way around.
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:D