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The quote below is a translated text from a Swedish news paper(aftonbladet.se)
Theory can prove that reality is - but only if you look
Have you ever wondered what goes on behind you when you are not watching? Nothing, they say.
New research proves that it can be true
Your eyes may be more valuable than you ever imagined. New research, proves an old theory in quantum physics: that reality does not exist as long as it is not measured.
Simply stated, it only exists if you look at it.
Examine the light in huge experiment
The physicists conducted a so-called "John Wheeler's-delayed-choice-thought-experiment". The researchers' goal is to see if and when the light takes a certain shape, wave or particle, or whether it remains in indeterminate state.
According to the laws of quantum physics, you can first, when light traveling is over see how it acted
Even this the researchers at the Australian National University detected
- This proves that the measurement is everything, says Professor Andrew Truscott wrote British media.
- At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you do not see it
use laser
Usually conducted experiment by researchers let the light bounce off mirrors. This time, did the researchers helium atoms move through several laser beams.
The beams created an irregular pattern and intersections, as if the mirrors would break the light and change the light movements. In the second part of the experiment, the researchers added a pattern of new rays that were a mixture of the first and second pattern. This led to disturbances created around the atoms, as if they "chose" to follow both the first and second pattern
When they took away the second round of the rays disappeared disruptions, as if the atoms gone back to its original path.
- The atoms were moving ever from A to B. It was only when the atoms were measured after the trial that their behavior began to exist, says Andrew Truscott, to British media
- If you choose to believe that atoms really moved in a specific pattern, you must accept that a modern measurement affects the atoms' history, said Truscott.
More about it here
http://physics.anu.edu.au/projects/project.php?ProjectID=141
If your dog is outside he/she does not exist-only in your mind and in your photos.
Markus
Sailor Steve
06-04-15, 05:08 PM
The age-old question: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it still make a sound?
The problem I see is that they can spend all the money in the universe on trying to prove this, and they never will. The simple fact is that you can't prove a negative. If there is no equipment to measure it then there is no way to prove whether it exists or not.
If mapuc makes a post and no one sees it, does the post exist and, by extension, does mapuc exist?...
The whole thing might explain why a lot of people say about me I'm not all there...
<O>
Do Swedish newspapers exist?
Rockstar
06-04-15, 05:39 PM
When you think about it there's no proof of anything, only mathematical consistency between theories, and consistency between theory and observation, until new observations contradict it. As far as I know there's no proof that you exist, but some observations such as the vast amount of text some people post make it a credible hypothesis.
Is the above proof Rockstar exists?...
<O>
I love sciences, sometimes its to heavy like this one.
Markus
Rockstar
06-04-15, 07:06 PM
Is the above proof Rockstar exists?...
<O>
I text therefore I am. :D
Rockstar
06-04-15, 07:19 PM
What is reality but what we perceive? What is our perception, if not our creation?
http://www.tehomet.net/bill.html
It's Just A Ride
by Bill Hicks
The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.
Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid -- ever -- because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.
'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.' It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that -- ever notice that? -- and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over -- not one human being excluded -- and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace.
Tango589
06-04-15, 07:30 PM
The age-old question: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it still make a sound?
Or
If a mime artist falls over and people see it, does he make a sound?
Wolferz
06-04-15, 07:36 PM
Rockstar is looking for Star Trektopia.:up::D
In reality, The matrix has you.
Rockstar
06-04-15, 08:27 PM
Dont get started on time travel! :rotfl2:
Sailor Steve
06-04-15, 08:49 PM
I text therefore I am. :D
I think you're putting Descartes before des horse. :O:
Wolferz
06-04-15, 09:16 PM
Or
If a mime artist falls over and people see it, does he make a sound?
Only if you seize the opportunity to kick him in the cojones.:arrgh!:
"I think, therefore I am...I think..." :hmmm:
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Torplexed
06-04-15, 10:01 PM
http://pyxis.homestead.com/FAR-OUT.jpg
em2nought
06-04-15, 10:18 PM
Reality is whatever the Waco Police tell you it is? Got a problem with that? :hmmm:
Eichhörnchen
06-05-15, 01:15 AM
I text therefore I am. :D
http://i.imgur.com/Jyqalch.jpg "I am what I am..."
Lionclaw
06-05-15, 03:17 AM
Maybe we forum posters are all AI! :huh:
And trolls/bots are viruses! And the Admin/Moderators are the Antivirus. :hmmm:
Some are just quarantined for a while, and some are removed.
Jimbuna
06-05-15, 05:54 AM
'Antivirus' eh? I'll try that on the women at work tonight....probably think I've got an infection :)
Platapus
06-05-15, 11:32 AM
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2015/03/Schroedingers-Cat-good-news-and-bad-news.jpg
Or
If a mime artist falls over and people see it, does he make a sound?
...and, if a tree falls on a mime in the forest and no one is there, do either make a sound?...
Maybe we forum posters are all AI! :huh:
And trolls/bots are viruses! And the Admin/Moderators are the Antivirus. :hmmm:
Some are just quarantined for a while, and some are removed.
I'll give you an answer as soon as I finish my diagnostics, refresh my source code, report to my CPU controller, and reboot myself...
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fireftr18
06-05-15, 05:57 PM
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Platapus
06-06-15, 12:25 PM
If a tree falls on a mime, would anyone care?
Aktungbby
06-06-15, 12:40 PM
If a tree falls on a mime, would anyone care?
YES!http://lowres.cartoonstock.com/environmental-issues-tree-surgeon-tree_surgeon-anesthetic-anesthesiologist-epa1447_low.jpg
Eichhörnchen
06-09-15, 02:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SMfOe79.jpg?1 "I only look like this when I have my eyes open"
"When they're closed I look like this..." http://i.imgur.com/hiZqyO4.jpg?1
Stealhead
06-09-15, 06:41 PM
I want to be in the universe where I get to create all of the physics laws and confuse everyone.
See I'd make the laws different for each individual being now that would be funny.
Only if you seize the opportunity to kick him in the cojones.:arrgh!:
Beat me to it :D
Rockstar
06-09-15, 11:21 PM
Dr. David Bohm and Karl Pribram both came to the same conclusion that observable existence is just a hologram. Something we all have a hand in creating whether we know it or not. In otherwords our physical selves, and all of physical reality is just a projection of our true, unfiltered consciousness.
Our buddy Murphy said: "If it can happen, it will." So go ahead and try to create your own reality with its own laws. Let us know how it goes :)
Eichhörnchen
06-10-15, 02:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/SMfOe79.jpg?1 "That's just what I was trying to say, Sunshine..."
Saw this on a t-shirt today:
"I think, therefore we have nothing in common"...
<O>
If my dog is outside and i cant see him they are saying he's not there?
Well what if my dog is outside and i cant see him but can see his shadow, if he is not there because i cant see him what casts his shadow?
Rockstar
06-10-15, 08:34 PM
In the book, The Holographic Universe the writer Michael Talbot integrated Bohm’s vision of two kinds of order with the work of Karl Pribram, a famed neurophysiologist who also became interested in holographic photography as a means of explaining the mysteries of human memory. Talbot also suggests the whole universe is a hologram. He writes:
Just as every portion of the hologram contains the image of the whole, every portion of the universe enfolds the whole. This means that if we knew how to access it we could find the Andromeda galaxy in the thumbnail of your left hand. We could also find Cleopatra meeting Caesar for the first time, for in principle the whole past and implications for the whole future are also enfolded in each small region of space and time. Every cell in our body enfolds the entire cosmos. So does every leaf, every raindrop, every dust mote…
http://everythingforever.com/Bohm.htm
Catfish
06-11-15, 02:16 AM
^ The brain is the most complicated and important organ.
Exactly who or what is telling me that ? :hmmm: :hmm2:
Tango589
06-11-15, 03:18 AM
^ The brain is the most complicated and important organ.
Exactly who or what is telling me that ? :hmmm: :hmm2:
It's your brain, which I reckon has an over-inflated sense of it's own importance.
Eichhörnchen
06-11-15, 03:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/o11l0Y0.jpg "So am I only bald when I look in a mirror?"
Tango589
06-11-15, 04:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/o11l0Y0.jpg "So am I only bald when I look in a mirror?"
No, still as bald as a cue ball whichever way you look at it.
Aktungbby
06-11-15, 08:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/o11l0Y0.jpg "So am I only bald when I look in a mirror?"
No, still as bald as a cue ball whichever way you look at it.
Depends on your point of view!:haha:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/Rattail.jpeg/220px-Rattail.jpeg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rattail.jpeg) And now required in the BILGE with a Wolferz- tooth earing!http://www.liketotally80s.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/rat-tail-4.jpg:arrgh!:and(I rest my case) who can forget Taras Bulba BBYhttp://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjI3MDMyMDk5MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTYzMTM3NA@@._ V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
17 March 2011
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