Fallout 4

[Task Force]

Figured i'd post it for those that didn't see!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE2BkLqMef4


Beths first Teaser trailer thingymagig for Fallout 4! Visually it reminds me a lot of Bio shock Infinite.

[james_nix]

I'm a big Fallout fan but those graphics. :down:

Still clunky character models and bad textures.

[Dowly]

I'm a big Fallout fan but those graphics. :down:

Still clunky character models and bad textures.

One word: Mods

[Red October1984]

I'm very very very excited for this.

It's going to be the game that decides which next-gen console I buy. :woot:

[Raptor1]

It's going to be the game that decides which next-gen console I buy. :woot:

A PC, then? :hmmm:

[Schroeder]

I'm a big Fallout fan but those graphics. :down:

Still clunky character models and bad textures.
I hear you, didn't look much better than Fallout 3 to me. I mean they don't still use the Gamebryo engine on that do they?:o

I'm very very very excited for this.

It's going to be the game that decides which next-gen console I buy. :woot:
Why would anyone want to play such a game on a console?:doh:

[Oberon]

At least the colour palette has been increased. :yep:

[Task Force]

I hear you, didn't look much better than Fallout 3 to me. I mean they don't still use the Gamebryo engine on that do they?:o


Why would anyone want to play such a game on a console?:doh:

You mean a neutered PC surely? Last console I've seen was the PS2.

I'm hoping they do a good job keeping to the fallout retro atmosphere/look, and don't try to be "super duper creative".

[AVGWarhawk]

Love these games. Fallout 3 is a all time favorite. Looking forward to 4!

[AVGWarhawk]

One word: Mods

:up:

[Raptor1]

I do like the new visual design, though the graphics and animation definitely seem sub-par. In any case, while I enjoyed Fallout 3 I definitely hope this takes more cues from New Vegas, though I doubt Bethesda is capable of writing a game as well as that.

[Task Force]

I do like the new visual design, though the graphics and animation definitely seem sub-par. In any case, while I enjoyed Fallout 3 I definitely hope this takes more cues from New Vegas, though I doubt Bethesda is capable of writing a game as well as that.

That's my feelings about it, I personally liked NV way more than FO3. Though we will see, lets hope it's story isn't as bland and unimportant to the game as Skyrims.

[Schroeder]

I do like the new visual design, though the graphics and animation definitely seem sub-par. In any case, while I enjoyed Fallout 3 I definitely hope this takes more cues from New Vegas, though I doubt Bethesda is capable of writing a game as well as that.
It would require Bethesda to come up with a decent story and good/interesting characters with depth. Not exactly Bethesda's strong suit so I'm not holding my breath. They have shown in Skyrim that they don't learn from Obsidian and follow the same route as always: huge nice map with awful stories/campaigns and cardboard cutout characters as in the games before. I don't expect an improvement on that.

[Red October1984]

I want this on console mainly because of the other console games I plan on enjoying and also upgrading my family/tv/entertainment room.

I have an Xbox 360. I love it...but it's getting pretty old.

[Stealhead]

One word: Mods
QFT :yeah:

I'd in no way shape or form have the massive number of hours in FO3 and NV if not for mods many of which actually make the thing playable. I couldn't imagine playing these gamed stock.

The story in Fallout 1 and 2 just slays the newer stuff though New Vegas was not shabby.

[Oberon]

I must restart New Vegas, well...when I say that I mean, I must sift through the mod selection, create a mod soup and then restart New Vegas. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Preloading Fallout 4. Who else has made the purchase or intends too?

[Julhelm]

I was considering a purchase but after watching the trailer I dropped 40 quid on Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity instead.

[Red October1984]

Buying this ASAP. My brother, father and I are all excited for it... :yeah:

[darius359au]

Preloading Fallout 4. Who else has made the purchase or intends too?

I pre ordered a Nuke pack here ,going to a Midnight release thing at my local EB store with a mate on monday night:D ,plan is get the game start the install and go to bed ,wake up and ready to play:up::up::haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

I purchased and pre-loaded from Steam. Should be unlocked today. PIP Boy at the ready! :haha:

[Onkel Neal]

Preloading Fallout 4. Who else has made the purchase or intends too?

Keep us posted on how you like it. I hear from early players it is really good. I'm gearing up for Rise of the Tomb Raider, I plan to get F4 next month for PC, since it is not available for 360. Cross your fingers, I hope my new laptop will run it. Btw, what size download is it, through Steam?

[Mud]

Keep us posted on how you like it. I hear from early players it is really good. I'm gearing up for Rise of the Tomb Raider, I plan to get F4 next month for PC, since it is not available for 360. Cross your fingers, I hope my new laptop will run it. Btw, what size download is it, through Steam?

Just a few hours in but fun so far, download size is 24 GB.

[dwassllir]

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/403430811344586129/4D2FA17B8BEEA8F505C3C2661E00E9214C2E4D1A/

Goliath Online!

I've only got 3 hours in and can already tell you that it's game of the year. Everything from the UI to the graphics, sounds, controls feel natural using K/M. With the modding community already working their magic, this game will be the one that stays in your favorite list for a long time. A+

(Graphics set to Medium with AA and Filtering Disabled)

[G97_BoKeRoN]

I will miss a lot hardcore mode.

[JWayne99]

Playing Steam PC version, no crashes, no probs so far. Using gfx enhancement mod that sharpens up the washed out look. Some of the moving around is clunky but crafting and building stuff is um *adsorbing* to say the least

[Onkel Neal]

Jwayne, did you download this through Steam or get the retail disc?

[mookiemookie]

Played for about 10 minutes this morning. Looks beautiful.

[Onkel Neal]

Mookie! I knew there was a lot of good to come from this thread :woot:

[GT182]

I never played any of the previous Fallout games, but the graphics in 4 look pretty amazing. Too bad SH3, 4, and 5 don't have graphics this good. And being able to go anywhere and do anything is pretty amazing too.

As for console play,.... not for me. PC only, as long as it's not on Steam. Yeah I have games on Steam but I don't like it.

[Oberon]

Mookie! Welcome back! :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

I've put this on my wifes Xmas list.

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/tBDjfZ8.png

[Iron Budokan]

I got this already and will start role playing a Russian female sniper. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Played for about 10 minutes this morning. Looks beautiful.

Mookie! :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Keep us posted on how you like it. I hear from early players it is really good. I'm gearing up for Rise of the Tomb Raider, I plan to get F4 next month for PC, since it is not available for 360. Cross your fingers, I hope my new laptop will run it. Btw, what size download is it, through Steam?

I have not had a chance to play yet. This working crap gets in the way. 24GB on Steam. I like Steam. Never an issue with games. Add-ons load without issue. Overall I like the Steam platform. From others posts in this thread it appears to be another blockbuster! I love the wasteland! :arrgh!:

[Ishtarius]

Have played Fallout since the first 1 came out:)
And was excited to here about fallout 4.
I have played a little bit of it, the scenery looks great, but visuals on characters seem a bit rushed.
Hope they get the real wasteland feel like they did in NW, but didn't seem like it the short time i played it.

[eddie]

I've put this on my wifes Xmas list.

Think she will let you play it Jim!?! Or will she keep it for herself?:D

[Dowly]

but visuals on characters seem a bit rushed.
Oh yes, they really messed up faces and facial animations. :huh:

[BerntBalchen]

For someone that has never played Fallout before, it was steep learning curve. The graphics was :down: and laggy here and there, so much it got annoying. And i got a GTX 980 with the 358.91 driver. For me and my taste, and we all have different taste, it was a letdown. So much that i have uninstalled it after 2.5 hour. :)

[darius359au]

Spent about 8-9 hours on it so far and all I can say is Wow!! spent so much time wondering around and exploring characters lvl 10 and hasn't started the main quest line yet ,the worlds huge!

Love the Power Armour and the way they've handled it ,you can't just wear it everywhere and be a god ,you need to decide if you need the extra protection on a mission by mission basis:up:

Been playing with the crafting and building system too gotta say Wow again - I love crafting in games and just the weapons system alone is huge and throw in the armour and settlement systems and I'm in heaven :03::D:D

[Stealhead]

Oh yes, they really messed up faces and facial animations. :huh:

That is something that Bethesda seems will never master. They looked at Wing Commander I and said "well that is it ladies and gentleman we will never be able to top those facial animations".

[Méo]

The graphics was :down: and laggy here and there, so much it got annoying.

Agreed

I've got a GTX 970 and I've played Far Cry 4 with everything at highest settings.

It was quite a shock to feel all the lag in fallout 4.

Big disappointment to say the least. :nope:

[Red October1984]

I have not been disappointed yet about an hour or two into the game (lost track of time :D )

I told myself I wasn't going to buy it just yet. I was going to wait and get it with cash...but I ended up using my card and buying it anyway. I'll replace the money at payday.

No regrets so far. I love it. :yeah:

EDIT: Have not noticed any lag at all. Facial animations aren't great, but in dialogue and certain little cutscene bits they work fine.

[FPSchazly]

Oh, it's so good. I've played about an hour today and wow, the graphics are something else coming from Fallout 3. I haven't played many new games lately, so I'm sure they're not considered 'fantastic' graphics but I really like them. Buttery smooth at ultra settings with a few FPS dips. Thank you, GTX 970! :up:

I know you all know me for Dangerous Waters videos, but I'm putting up Fallout 4 videos starting tomorrow! Check 'em out, if you like :salute:

[Tycho]

I'm true fan of original Fallout, 1 and 2, but I've never felt the need to play the new games.
I like 2d isometric for rpg game, and continuously replay the good old ones.

[darius359au]

For someone that has never played Fallout before, it was steep learning curve. The graphics was :down: and laggy here and there, so much it got annoying. And i got a GTX 980 with the 358.91 driver. For me and my taste, and we all have different taste, it was a letdown. So much that i have uninstalled it after 2.5 hour. :)

Agreed

I've got a GTX 970 and I've played Far Cry 4 with everything at highest settings.

It was quite a shock to feel all the lag in fallout 4.

Big disappointment to say the least. :nope:

That's weird ,I've got a 970 card (EVGA GTX970 SC 4Gig) ,and zero lag (some texture pop in's but rarely),game auto set me to ultra and had no problems ,did turn down motion blur and DOF because I dont like them.

[GOZO]

I must be booring but I have never played any version of Fallout. :salute:

Far cry, Wolfenstein and Bioshock when regarding fps games.:D

[Stealhead]

That's weird ,I've got a 970 card (EVGA GTX970 SC 4Gig) ,and zero lag (some texture pop in's but rarely),game auto set me to ultra and had no problems ,did turn down motion blur and DOF because I dont like them.
Two different computers though having some of the same software can have numerous differences which have an effect on performance.

[AVGWarhawk]

I was able to get an hour in last night. I love the opening intro and story line. Graphics are good. I can not comment much more then that after just an hours play.

[Onkel Neal]

Conan O'Brien shows how much (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYV8Y9Ywh8)a non-dork can like the game. And is there anything more dorky than a non-techie trying be above gaming, lol? Pretty funny, nonetheless.:cool:

[U505995]

Bought fallout 4 yesterday, it's simply amazing! In between doing quests, I search every kind of building and ruins I can for loot and weapons. Put 4 hours in already and I have barely gotten started.:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Conan O'Brien shows how much (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYV8Y9Ywh8)a non-dork can like the game. And is there anything more dorky than a non-techie trying be above gaming, lol? Pretty funny, nonetheless.:cool:

It is a good chuckle!

[BossMark]

Looks to have great potential, only played it for just over an hour, but I have the PC version and its a piss poor idea to install 25GB from the disk as it took over 3 hours to install the rest of game.......

[BossMark]

It's a small issue, but it's driving me mad. Is anybody else missing being able to switch to third person and see your favourite weapon holstered on your back or to your side?

I'm really hoping a weapon holster mod is released soon.

[AVGWarhawk]

The system requirements at quite hefty for this game. The recommended video card runs major $$$.

What are you guys running the game on?

[BossMark]

I'm running a gtx 980

[darius359au]

@stealhead gotta love PC's when you can get 2 similar systems and 2 different results in the same game:doh::)

@AVGWarhawk I'm running it on an i5 3.0ghz with a EVGA GTX970SC!

[Stealhead]

@stealhead gotta love PC's when you can get 2 similar systems and 2 different results in the same game:doh::)

@AVGWarhawk I'm running it on an i5 3.0ghz with a EVGA GTX970SC!

Not all that bad when you also get the mod capabilities that a PC allows. Not to mention the cutting edge graphics(if you spend the coin). Not to mention flight simulators and such.

Several of my all time favorite games I played on PC.

Lots of PC issues originate from driver issues not all of course but many. I am willing to bet that most graphics related issues are due to the testers simply not having the time to do that amount of QA so they have to try the most common set ups.

[jacobston]

The system requirements at quite hefty for this game. The recommended video card runs major $$$.

What are you guys running the game on?

I only have an i3 and a 750ti. It still looks really pretty and runs at a solid 60 fps. It suggested I set the graphics to low, but I turned them up quite a bit and it runs fine.

[AVGWarhawk]

Kind of odd. My machine has the AMD Phenom 9650 x4 Black Edition at 2.5ghz. She is old but still cranks along. My video card, Nvidia 650 GTX with 1 GB. So I'm below the minimum requirements in this department. I do have the 8 GB RAM recommended. When I allow the game to select the best settings it goes to quality(medium). The game plays well and looks just fine graphic-wise. I have no desire to up the anti on my current rig...meaning entire overhaul to a super computer but I did purchase a faster Nvidia card with 2 GB as the minimum.

As far as game play(etc.), I did get a few more hours in. For me, I liked the environment in FO3 a bit better. Just a bit. The new FO4 does not have that yellowish hue. Much of the game play is as it was in FO3 which is fine. The game appears to be a story/journey of a different character in a different vault. I do not expect to see a much different set of bad dudes, slugs and bugs spitting at me. I have the game set to normal play and finding ammo is few/far between until the player get to Concord. It is here I get to play with the atom powered suit and do some blasting of rogue band of misfits.

So far I like the game. It is what I expected.

[darius359au]

One thing I like about the combat is you need to mix it up between VATS and FPS now and VATS no longer pauses time but slows it down ,keeps the combat flowing and there's nothing more guaranteed to make you go "Oh PooP" than watching you to hit chance going down as your getting charged by a Deathclaw:o:o

Anyone else using the Pipboy smartphone app? ,thought it would just be a gimmick but it's actually useful ,especially keeping the map up to keep track of where you are.

[Red October1984]

As far as game play(etc.), I did get a few more hours in. For me, I liked the environment in FO3 a bit better. Just a bit. The new FO4 does not have that yellowish hue.

See, I absolutely LOVED the landscape and environment from Fo3...but dammit, I absolutely LOVE the landscape in Fo4. It's different. It's just a ton of jumbled crap around the landscape, as I feel it should be.

It actually has color though. That's the biggest thing for me. It's not all "shades of black and gray" anymore like it was in Fo3.

Fo3 will forever be my favorite, but Fo4 is becoming an strong contender the more I play of it.

[Stealhead]

Fallout New Vegas is by far superior to Fallout 3. The original two games in many respects are still the best. Because they truly had no hand holding and you where free to do what you wanted when ever you wanted. The only limitation was the 160 days (which can be extended) and with Fallout 2 I forget the time but its a few years.

One of the best things in the old school Fallouts was if you gave your character a very low intelligence the dialogue options where extremely limited. Those games are pure RPGs. Fallout 3 I agree that to be appealing they had to change things and that is ok. Where 3 in my opinion failed was its story was just pretty dull.

Obsidian did an awsome job with New Vegas and in some respects it is a spiritual successor to Fallout 2.

Hard to say thus far for me how Fallout 4 will stack up overall. So far with 4 I see things I like and things I dont like. Im not crazy about the new leveling system it seems like it will be very easy to make an uber character which kinda flys in the face of what made the originals so great.

[AVGWarhawk]

FO3 is a top 5 for me for a few reasons:

1. Open world play.
2. Enjoyed the post apocalyptic landscape, theme and portrayed 50's-60's style era.
3. The game takes place in DC(Bethesda Studios is located in Bethesda MD) just north of DC. This is my old stomping grounds so it was cool walking some of the streets of DC while in game. Plus the add-on of the eastern shore of MD where I vacation each year.
4. Coming from games like Jane's, IL2, Silent Hunter this was an entire new type of game for me. Nothing like I have played before.
5. Just endless fun.

[AVGWarhawk]

Kind of odd. My machine has the AMD Phenom 9650 x4 Black Edition at 2.5ghz. She is old but still cranks along. My video card, Nvidia 650 GTX with 1 GB. So I'm below the minimum requirements in this department. I do have the 8 GB RAM recommended. When I allow the game to select the best settings it goes to quality(medium). The game plays well and looks just fine graphic-wise. I have no desire to up the anti on my current rig...meaning entire overhaul to a super computer but I did purchase a faster Nvidia card with 2 GB as the minimum.




After some more game play last I shut it down and moved the display to the next level just below optimal/best. The game played fine at the second to highest graphics display. At this point judging by my system the recommended minimum requirements might be a bit high.

At the end of the day I like the graphic, coloring and landscape. This games story line is developing as I play. Much different than the other FO.

[AVGWarhawk]

Hard to say thus far for me how Fallout 4 will stack up overall. So far with 4 I see things I like and things I dont like. Im not crazy about the new leveling system it seems like it will be very easy to make an uber character which kinda flys in the face of what made the originals so great.

I agree on this point. It is not long before you are in an atomic operated suit with Gatlin gun. Sadly, your character that has been brought out of the freezer after 200 years appears to be completely familiar with said suit. FO3 it took me hours of game play to get a full set of armor. At this point with the suit I'm God of the wastelands after a few hours of play.

[darius359au]

I agree on this point. It is not long before you are in an atomic operated suit with Gatlin gun. Sadly, your character that has been brought out of the freezer after 200 years appears to be completely familiar with said suit. FO3 it took me hours of game play to get a full set of armor. At this point with the suit I'm God of the wastelands after a few hours of play.

According to the devs the husband fought in alaska so he'd be familiar with the suits but the wife was a lawyer so not sure how she'd know how to use a one - Though on the official forums some people have sort of speculated she could have been military intelligence or a member of some form of spec ops group ,meets the husband ,leaves the military to get married and have a baby and became a lawyer!

[Dowly]

According to the devs the husband fought in alaska so he'd be familiar with the suits but the wife was a lawyer so not sure how she'd know how to use a one - Though on the official forums some people have sort of speculated she could have been military intelligence or a member of some form of spec ops group ,meets the husband ,leaves the military to get married and have a baby and became a lawyer!
Or it might be just lazy design. :O: The more I read/see, the less likely I will be getting the game. Seems it's more or less the "Skyrim treatment", update it to the new (not really new) engine and keep taking away features.

[Stealhead]

According to the devs the husband fought in alaska so he'd be familiar with the suits but the wife was a lawyer so not sure how she'd know how to use a one - Though on the official forums some people have sort of speculated she could have been military intelligence or a member of some form of spec ops group ,meets the husband ,leaves the military to get married and have a baby and became a lawyer!


That makes no sense as in the holotape she made for the husband she states that she can dust of her law degree and go back to that(line of work). Indicating that she must have been a lawyer and has no previous military experience.

Another indicator is if you as the father look at the law degree before the Vaul Tec salesman appears the husband says "I'm so proud of her". So clearly while he was away she went to law school then decided for some reason to stop working despite the fact that her husband is just or recently returning from war.

So based on the vague information given the husband was in the Army (though it never bothers to say where) and left after his time was up. Based on the holotape from the wife he seems to be dissatisfied in some way with his job as a mailman you can find the uniform in his house after you leave Vault 111 oddly his mailman hat is in another house. I like to think he was involved in the Canadian occupation maybe thats him in the title sequence of Fallout 1 shooting the Canadian in the head and then waving.


Do to the quasi 50's nature of the Fallout universe I like to think that all female soldiers are super butch and more manly than you are much like Vasquez in Aliens but that wife is no Vasquez. Vasquez would never get a law degree I tell you that much.

[Raptor1]

There are raiders running around in power armour that they apparently somehow manufactured, so obviously it's not such a problem anymore. :hmmm:

Or it might be just lazy design. :O: The more I read/see, the less likely I will be getting the game. Seems it's more or less the "Skyrim treatment", update it to the new (not really new) engine and keep taking away features.

That's my impression of it so far; very much, as they say, 'Skyrim with Guns'. The game design is the usual Bethesda fair. There's armies of raiders and Super Mutants around every corner to shoot through, but I've seen very little in the way of actual people, settlements and stories, and there's seemingly little thought given to making this part of the wasteland a coherent world. Technically, this game seems to be better than most of Bethesda's previous games in a lot of aspects, but the new everything-as-perk system and the Mass Effect-style conversations just simplify major parts of the gameplay for little apparent reason.

It's not that I'm not enjoying it, much like I did Fallout 3, and it is slowly getting better so far so maybe my conclusion will be different when I'm done, but I really doubt this game can measure up to the standards New Vegas sets.

[Stealhead]

There are raiders running around in power armour that they apparently somehow manufactured, so obviously it's not such a problem anymore. :hmmm:



That's my impression of it so far; very much, as they say, 'Skyrim with Guns'. The game design is the usual Bethesda fair. There's armies of raiders and Super Mutants around every corner to shoot through, but I've seen very little in the way of actual people, settlements and stories, and there's seemingly little thought given to making this part of the wasteland a coherent world. Technically, this game seems to be better than most of Bethesda's previous games in a lot of aspects, but the new everything-as-perk system and the Mass Effect-style conversations just simplify major parts of the gameplay for little apparent reason.

It's not that I'm not enjoying it, much like I did Fallout 3, and it is slowly getting better so far so maybe my conclusion will be different when I'm done, but I really doubt this game can measure up to the standards New Vegas sets.

I agree thus far Fallout 4 lacks the superior story that New Vegas had. I am in the same boat I do not dislike Fallout 4 but I am not blown away by it. I was really hoping they would take the success of New Vegas and take notes. Sadly Bethesda seems not to have done this.All they did was take mods made for FO3 and NV and implemented them into the game.


It is really interesting to read the mission statement for the original Fallout. In it it states at one point that the primary goal is to make an interesting world with an interesting story. They even state by designing the skills and perks as they did it provides a more expansive experience because the player will find something that thier skills cant grant access meaning that they must find another way. In other words having limitations in actually fun.


Sure an expansive world is cool and blasting or beating to death raiders and super mutants and Robobrains is great but give me some depth man. I want to have to make morally compromising decisions like you did in FO1 and 2 and NV.

[Onkel Neal]

FO3 is a top 5 for me for a few reasons:

1. Open world play.
2. Enjoyed the post apocalyptic landscape, theme and portrayed 50's-60's style era.
3. The game takes place in DC(Bethesda Studios is located in Bethesda MD) just north of DC. This is my old stomping grounds so it was cool walking some of the streets of DC while in game. Plus the add-on of the eastern shore of MD where I vacation each year.
4. Coming from games like Jane's, IL2, Silent Hunter this was an entire new type of game for me. Nothing like I have played before.
5. Just endless fun.




That's a good summary. I have dusted off my F3 and am playing it now (won't be ready for F4 until xmas).

[darius359au]

Mate sent me a video about a cover mechanic ,I've got 52 hours and didn't know this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Nx6P2oI1M&feature=youtu.be

[Dowly]

Angry Joe's review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aorKjw71ckQ

[Stealhead]

I have to admit that melee is much more fun in FO4.

[Red October1984]

Melee is a nice addition, but I'm really really liking the new customization system.

I love being able to mod my guns and armor. Probably my favorite new feature.

[Platapus]

The Frau just got this game and she likes it a lot. In looking over her shoulder there seems to be a lot to this game. :o

Not sure my system has the computing power to handle this game.

My computer can handle it fine, I am more worried about my brain. :oops:

[Stealhead]

Melee is a nice addition, but I'm really really liking the new customization system.

I love being able to mod my guns and armor. Probably my favorite new feature.

:hmmm: Melee is not an addition it has been around since Fallout 1. What Angry Joe meant and I agree with is that melee is much more fun in FO4 than it was recent FO titles. Technically there is melee and hand to hand. Hand to hand being fists and brass knuckles and the power fist(a classic weapon). Melee is bats, knives and the like.

I am a bit displeased that they got read of condition for weapons and armor. Why they did this makes no sense so you can craft great why the hell remove the abilty to fix worn items which you could do in FO3 and FONV?

[Dowly]

I am a bit displeased that they got read of condition for weapons and armor. Why they did this makes no sense so you can craft great why the hell remove the abilty to fix worn items which you could do in FO3 and FONV?
Yeah, weapon/armor degradation makes sense in a post-apoc game where you are using makeshift weapons of arguably inferior quality compared to modern day weaponry. :hmmm:

Also, the fact that you have to repair arguably the best armor in the game, but not some leather chest piece is a bit silly. :)

[Stealhead]

Yeah, weapon/armor degradation makes sense in a post-apoc game where you are using makeshift weapons of arguably inferior quality compared to modern day weaponry. :hmmm:

Also, the fact that you have to repair arguably the best armor in the game, but not some leather chest piece is a bit silly. :)


I agree with Joe's warning Bethesda really needs to drop the old game engine and make some considerable changes in their stories from this point on. The open world element of the titles just wont cut it. The crafting thing feels very last minute to me. Im not that bothered by the power armor as I never used it other titles so it does not have a major appeal to me. I see it as the armor that Brotherhood of Steel and Enclave types wear and I just a waster dont want it or need it.

The settlement thing seems very dumb as well I have zero interest in it short of points where I have to do it for a quest. The fact that they force you to have charisma to have good barter at all is very stupid. I have ignored it thus far.

The new level system sets you at 1 skill point in each SPECIAL you are given at start 21 points to invest. Thing is they took away the old perk system. Now when you level you can add a point to a SPECIAL or to a "perk" that corresponds with a SPECIAL several perks having several tiers(in this manner they greatly simplify design and dumb down the RPG element). IT makes leveling up pretty dull. In my opinion the old level system was one of things that made Fallout different. But today every game has to be like every other game.

RPGs that also came out this year such as The Witcher 3 just murder this title. Its not horrible just mediocre I'm left feeling like Immortan Joe I want my War Boys to perform well but "Mediocre..." and they are yelling "I got his boot".

Id give it a 7/10 as an average title a 6/10 as a Fallout title.

[Pigmachine]

Haven't played it.. will not play it.. ever.. for real! Removing the pure RPG elements from fallout 1 and 2, (were to obvious even in Fallout 3) only to replace the wonderful things you could do with just talking, with a 90% more boring FPS shooting!?

Got myself Whitcher 3 with all free DLC's (except newgame+) (damn the game looks good!, and have a compelling story/interaction with people and things)
Got it a long time ago, really cheap. Got the DLC after a few hours playtime.

Also just got Skyrim with all DLC's at the winter-sale. Not at all as bad as Oblivion was (only played out the assassin and thief questline there)
And scaling isn't as horrible as in oblivion.. or most things Bethesta touches these days! Even really good Morrowind feeling to it.

[Pigmachine]

For you complaining about the fact that you in your armor rule the wasteland after just a few hours.. check the speedruns for fallout 1 and 2.. the 2 best games ever made imo https://youtu.be/glNxQNpunWE
It's a matter of minutes to finish the game(s) I guess i played them both 10 times at least. (not my speedrun)

[Takeda Shingen]

I look forward to the day when Fallout is no longer one of Bethesda's IPs, and eagerly anticipate a legitimate isometric Fallout cRPG. Obsidian, InXile and Harebrained Schemes are three from the short list of studios I would like to see tackle such a project.

[james_nix]

I just stop playing. It was just, boring to me (I loved FONV). I didn't care about Shaun.

The voice protagonist was a terrible, uninspired,idea.

Settlements are tedious.

Maybe when the creation kit comes out the mods can save the game from itself.

On the plus side, I'm playing SH4 again! :yeah:

[Captain Vlad]

At least the colour palette has been increased. :yep:

Sweet Jesus yes. Got so sick of staring at boring grey everything in FO3 that I sometimes would close the game out of sheer bleah. Fallout 4 turned out to be so much better looking it's hard to describe.

Damn good game in my opinion. It certainly sucked me in better than most games manage.

[Red October1984]

Seems somebody has finally made a PC mod to stop Preston Garvey from assigning all the stupid settlement quests. After the GECK drops, it should be available for console users.

:woot: :woot: :woot:

[AVGWarhawk]

Sweet Jesus yes. Got so sick of staring at boring grey everything in FO3 that I sometimes would close the game out of sheer bleah. Fallout 4 turned out to be so much better looking it's hard to describe.

Damn good game in my opinion. It certainly sucked me in better than most games manage.


I loved FO3 environment of all the games. :up:

[Captain Vlad]

I loved FO3 environment of all the games. :up:

If you like dreary and grey, it was certainly your game. Worse, there was a whole trend of games and movies both looking sort of colorless about that time.

Couldn't stand it. It's my least favorite visual cliché, beating even unnecessary lens flare.

[reignofdeath]

Hey guys, so I need some help. My wife recently got FO4 for her PC and she wants me to install the settlement mod that allows you to construct items even if they're in red (a place that won't work) can anyone help me with a detailed guide through to do this? I tried earlier and failed :/

[Nippelspanner]

Hey guys, so I need some help. My wife recently got FO4 for her PC and she wants me to install the settlement mod that allows you to construct items even if they're in red (a place that won't work) can anyone help me with a detailed guide through to do this? I tried earlier and failed :/
Why doesn't your pearl do it herself? :shifty: :88)

You need, or rather should use, "Nexus Mod Manager" (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/495/?), you'll find it on Nexus together with some basic manuals (or indepth if needed).
It helps managing and installing/uninstalling mods, without breaking your install.
It is rather idiot safe and I would not play without it.

Let me know if you need more help.

[Dowly]

NMM is not 100% idiot proof, unless it has changed drastically.

Mods that add loose files i.e. files to the texture folder without the .esp (or whatever it is in FO4) can cause problems, if you use multiple mods to change the same textures. For example, town textures mod for one town and on top of that a total all-towns texture pack might cause problems when you try to uninstall the mods.

I dont know if ModOrganizer works for FO4, but if it does, that's the way to go. It does not install ANYTHING to your game folder, it uses some magic, probably magnets to link the files and use them in your game.

Though, if you dont plan to use huge amount of mods, then NMM works just fine.

At any rate, here's Gopher's playlist on modding (and on NMM) for FO4):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7DlYarj-DcsUoIH2gzYt7u6WSh07m4A

[Onkel Neal]

Finally got F4 last month, thinking this new laptop would be strong enough to run it, and boy, it is!

Sad fact: I bought F4 on a DVD because I am severly limited on how much I can download each month, and if I bought it through Steam, I would have to spend a day at a restaurant with free wifi to d/l the game. So, the DVD, ha ha!

Except when I went to install the game, after inserting the DVD and about 6 seconds of installation...it told me I had to connect to Steam for the rest of the game....24 GB!:/\\!!

Took me 3 weeks to get it all downloaded :wah:

[AVGWarhawk]

Sheesh...that's insane. :o

[U505995]

Finally got F4 last month, thinking this new laptop would be strong enough to run it, and boy, it is!

Sad fact: I bought F4 on a DVD because I am severly limited on how much I can download each month, and if I bought it through Steam, I would have to spend a day at a restaurant with free wifi to d/l the game. So, the DVD, ha ha!

Except when I went to install the game, after inserting the DVD and about 6 seconds of installation...it told me I had to connect to Steam for the rest of the game....24 GB!:/\\!!

Took me 3 weeks to get it all downloaded :wah:
I bought fallout for my ps4 and it only took me 5min to install and update the game.:haha:

[Onkel Neal]

Thhhhhbbb!! :Kaleun_Goofy:

[Skybird]

Far Harbor, I liked it very much, the place looks quite different, like Carpenter's "The Fog" :D , very nice creation this island is, visually. But the main quest lost me with this stupid Dima virtual puzzle thing.

Recommended download, its worth the money, and it is quite big, but this puzzle... somebody was on dope when putting that thing in.

If anyone has the mission ID number and console command line to mark this mission as solved so that I can go on without killing my time with this, let me, let us, let mankind know.

P.S. You can roam the island and do your thing or any of the side quests without needing to stick with the main quest, btw, so I still recommend this package. Its huge place.

[Onkel Neal]

Thanks for the recommendation:salute:

[Skybird]

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0wSCFBJcSs

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Edit:
And in reply to myself, here are the mission stages ID numbers to cut short that Dima virtual memory-puzzle.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Best_Left_Forgotten

The console command is

SetStage <QuestID (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_quests)> <Quest stage number>

I love Bethesda for including these console commands in all their games.

[Skybird]

The above method/mission ID to bypass that puzzle nerve killer, does not work reliably. Better use this:

setstage xx001b42 150

and then repeat that line four more times but replace 150 with 250, 350, 450 and 550. XX is the number the DLC has in the loading order, usually for most people it should be 04 or 03, so try these first.

When you did that, and are back at the computer table in the game, log on again, the five fragments have been decoded and can be played like any holotape, as a voice recording. Do that, because each fragment gives you a new location on the map and a new mission to push forward the main quest.

[alexau]

hey, never saw this before Good job Hmm, this guy still visit the forums? He has a skill set I am interested in.

And in my opinion Deus Ex could take a few notes from Fallout Just a few, and mainly New Vegas I am talking about here They are both excellent series, though yes, 3 has some questionable aspects. Both series could take notes from eachother, but they are very, very similar in design anyway.
I prefer Deus Ex 1 to Fallout: NV but its by a miniscule margin.

[Skybird]

I discovered a mod, and its awesome, a true game changer:

War of the Commonwealth.

With a big emphasis on "war". ArmA3 is a sleeping pill, compared to this. :D Think of it as Battflefield Future Pack.

It adds a million of new spawning points, and allows alteration of what gets when where spawned, in what numbers, whether it patrols, stays put, is strong or weak, and so forth. Sounds not like much, but it turns the game into a warzone, and a real challange. Gone are the days when after levelling to 40 or 50 you have all the most protective gear and most lethal weapons and go promenading and massacring the bad guys en passant.

You instead have the variousa factions holdign strongholds or patrolling, in groupos of selectable size, I currentl yuse around 8-10 per group. And I fight for my life all the time. And was unnable to keep it. I had to fully change my approach to the game.

This story: I started new, and decided to focus on base-building at Red Rockets North of Concorde. When I arrived there, I already had to evade a patorl of a dozen raiders strolling by. From the roof at red Rockets I saw a group of battle robots at the Water Tower, severla hordes of ghouls at Concord, who then ran into the former raider gang, and a fiery fight errupted which soon covered all of Concorde. I ducked downand sat silent and all i thoguht was just "Wowh. Damn. I'm in trouble."

I collected the rubble (mod for greater building areas), and stzarted to improvse rubble fences and some stuff like that to make it through the night, it felt like in some Zombie survival game. Up on the roof and away wit the ladder was the motto. When night had fallen, the game started to show what it really is capable of:

A group of Forged Fellas arrived in Concord, and made short work of the ghouls that before had eaten the raiders. Flamethrowers and fire everywhere, fantastic light effects. Then the light cones or power armour arrived from the South, some unidentified people in power armour, maybe more raiders, with the battle robots fromt he water tower moving into comncord to check out what all the nosie as about. Explosions, laserfire, endless mahcine gun salvos, drama, madness, luinacy - when I say the fighting was all over the place of Concorde, you can take that literally.

I had no armour and weaponry worth to mention, but obviously I needed to ccollect stuff, somehow. Felt like the rabbit on an open plain with wolves and foxes all around me! So Istarted to silently move out and sneka around, hiding in the dark, in empty house, and moved into the b attle, trying to avoid shooting or getting spotted. People were running aorund everywhere, and the battle rolled on, back and forth, from left to right. Plan was to move to the trader in that bistro south of Concoerd and selling stuff there that I could collect and pick up underway. And so I did, stealing from the corpses that laid around by the dozens, apparently, and hushing away again when sokme fighting gang started to get in my direction again, chasing something or someone. I did not get that far to the trader however, I had to hide int he church tower, and got pinned down. So came the dawn, and a new day broke, and I sat up there and the basttle came to a halt, and somebody seemed to had won it, and silence fell. And a gang of I think Gunners sitting right on the street before the church entrance. :dead:

I sat there all day, wanting to see how the timing of this mod works. It works great, and timing variables can be influenced both the minimums and maximums. In the late afternoon, another faction started to move in from the East, taking the Gunners's attention, and they moved out towards the new thread, with another faction blocking my way to the south, to the trader. I waited unti, the battle noise told me that they were celebrating their new friendship, and then dared to sneak down and out, and back to Red Rockets. I had not sold anything, but got some stuff and - survived the day. Felt like the biggest achievement ever in this game: merely surviving (I do not like the survivaal difficulty level, I play at the highest normal difficulty level).

Base-building got a new meaning in the game now. And having good defences, is vital, its no longer about playing Sim City. Its about how long it takes until somebody comes by and hacks it all to pieces. :) In my case, it were Mutants. A dozen of them.

On the second day, I died three times. Thats a record in the game.

War of the Commonwealth.Take it literally - you've been warned. Without doubt one of the best game alterations out there. Its a completely new game for me. I wanted to move to Diamond City as soon as possible, to pick up Piper as companion. Usually its easily done in the game, even on survival difficulty level. But now I have no clue how to get there - and survive the journey.

I would recommend to start a new career with this mod, from day one on when you are the most weak and vulnerable. Very intensive experience. :D Don't get spotted.

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Edit: After one more day with this, I strongly recommend to start this mod with toning down its settings, else it is too murderous.
Fewer spawning points, reduced enemy difficulty level. Else its almost impossible to survive the travel from Concorde to Diamond City. I would also recommend to leave your companion at home,l if you have one, he/she too often triggers enemy attention where hiding all alone you would have slipped through unnoticed, maybe. - You see by these remarks how different the game is, yes...!?

[Skybird]

This is the description site for the mod above.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12395

I also use mods for making nights darker, and getting rid of the afterglow of place where there was a lmap that you removed and still the shine is there - my CW is much darker at night than the dewfualt one, and allows me to have more control with light design in my settlement. Thjat makes it essential to either avoid the Wa rin the Commonwelath at night, since oyu cannot see then enemies, or use night vision or thermal imagers, if you have them in either your power armor, or use anothe rof thes emods that allow to craft them, once you found the blueprint and have suffic ient skills.

I repeatedly have found myself int he middle of battles that can only be described as "epic". I do not use companions with this mod, they give my presence away to easily. It helps to have Chameleon armour. And it is fun to learn to play tactically on a way that befpore was impossible or pointless. When I see my m ovemenmt options all beign blocked, I get into good position and then try to drive two or more of the surrounding enemy groups to go after each other, and duck away myself. Its a thrilling mixture of bloordthirsty FPS, hide-and-seek, get the hell out of Dodge City, and hiding in the rubble with all hell breaking lose around.

Just make sure to guard your settlement very well. Else you need to find replacements for your killed settlers all day long.