What Would You Do if You Saw This, Moments Before Take-Off?

[vienna]

This certainly would have raised questions in my mind:

https://www.yahoo.com/makers/panicked-passenger-tweets-photo-of-tape-repair-job-120458964740.html

This brought to mind an incident that occurred when my family was flying to Nicaragua, Central America, back in 1965. We left San Francisco on board a modern Pan Am jet and flew directly to Guatemala (to this day, I still don't know why we didn't make stops in LA or Mexico City). On landing in Guatemala, passengers were divided into two groups and boarded onto a pair of aging Pan Am turbo props. At the time, Central American airfields were not capable of accommodating and/or servicing the larger jets. We then hopped from one country to another, making stops in each country to refuel. In El Salvador, we were actually required to deplane and sit for about an hour in the terminal while vendors were brought in to hawk their wares. In Honduras, we were kept on the plane; I had a seat a little aft of the starboard wing. A fuel truck pulled up and a pair of guys got out to top off the fuel. One guy climbed up on the wing while the other passed up the fuel hose. The guy on the wing popped open the fuel port, attached the hose, and gave a go ahead sign to the guy on the ground. The guy on the wing leaned back against the fuselage, right next to warning signs declaring, in Spanish and English, "No Smoking". He then reached into his coveralls pocket, produced a cigar and a match, struck the match against the fuselage right next to the warnings, lit up and puffed away until the refueling was completed. He then stubbed out the cigar on the fuselage, stuffed the cigar into his pocket, unplugged the hose, closed the port, passed down the hose, climbed down, and he and his partner drove off. Those few minutes he stood there, puffing away were very nerve wracking for me...


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[mapuc]

My answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5yFWiJK670&list=PLBv9WZc_3kTRrGTUYgeNV0ypu-inv7LlU&index=18

[Aktungbby]

:DHigh speed tape is made of aluminum, and has a stronger adhesive than duct tape.
It's a lot more expensive, too. A half-inch wide, 60-yard roll retails for $38.95 from Aviall.
Aviation consultant Denny Kelly says airlines use it regularly. I would be surprised if today right now if there's not an airplane on every airline in the United States that's not flying around with some of this stuff on it, he said.
The FAA allows high speed tape as a temporary patch. It's meant for punctures, scrapes, or surface damage.
American said its Boeing 737 last Friday had the tape applied for an approved use. It wasn't a hole, said American spokesman Tim Wagner; instead, the high-speed tape was placed over a panel with a weak thumb latch.
Similar pictures from other passengers on different planes can be found all over the Internet.
A bear looking for food tore into the fuselage of a single-engine Piper. The Alaskan bush pilot is said to have salvaged his ride home with three cases of the tape.
High-speed tape is also known as 600 mile-per-hour tape because it can withstand temperature extremes and high speeds that jetliners fly in. http://media.salon.com/2011/10/pilot-duct-tape-460x307.jpg (http://media.salon.com/2011/10/pilot-duct-tape.jpg)http://www.salon.com/2011/10/27/ryanair_duct_tape_controversy/ (http://www.salon.com/2011/10/27/ryanair_duct_tape_controversy/) http://mng-hanover.smugmug.com/Submitted/Photos-Duct-Tape-Prom-Dresses/i-znD5hnv/0/XL/0626_NWS_SD-ducktape-3-XL.jpg how slow speed duck tape should be used...BBY!:D

[Herr-Berbunch]

Speed tape, wonderful stuff, seen it on many serviceable aircraft and once wrapped my holey exhaust in it (to no avail on this occasion). :D

[Platapus]

Never take a close look at a military aircraft if this sort of stuff bothers you. :haha:

[Stealhead]

Ah yes high speed tape brings many found memories. The Turkish Air Force uses the daylights out of the stuff. Saw a Turkish KC-135 and they used the tape to hold together the fins on the refueling boom. mind you they had no intent to use the boom it was just a way to keep the fins stationary till they got the plane to where ever its depot was at least my assumption was such I only observed the application. Also saw it used many times on windscreen frames especially on heavy aircraft but also on fighter canopies dependent on damage location of course it has to frame damage like a crack on the frame from a bird strike on the actual widescreen i doubt but im sure its been done.

I have even seen used as a very temporary patch on a diesel generator radiator before.

Also one of those things that noobies think is a hazing joke that actually isnt.

It also is outstanding for hog tying cant let anyone escape their farewell wash down. I got strapped to a stool because I fought so hard but whats a bloody nose among friends besides if you just take it what good are you the more material and manpower it takes to restrain you the better. Sort of like being in a gang if you cant fight you are a nobody.

[Oberon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVxuHqmNpbI

[Betonov]

How many planes crashed because of faulty nut and bolts ??
And how many due to bad duct tape ??

Ask yourself that :)

[Jimbuna]

I've seen it applied to a few military aircraft on the static line at airshows and figured if the military use it then it should be safe.

[Aktungbby]

On second look this guy's really good at it-talk about a field sobriety test here;:oI never get it that straight on the first go! Plus it has to be reducing drag even over flush rivets! http://faculty.dwc.edu/sadraey/Chapter%203.%20Drag%20Force%20and%20its%20Coeffici ent.pdf (http://faculty.dwc.edu/sadraey/Chapter%203.%20Drag%20Force%20and%20its%20Coeffici ent.pdf) :D https://s.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w540/a0fbeaedbaa787dcfef5df560754726f446385e3.jpg

[Schroeder]

There is absolutely no problem with that. From what I hear we are taping the front side of the wings of out Tornado fighter bombers too to reduce wear on them. That stuff will hold. Mountain out of molehill comes to mind and jumped upon by people with no clue as always.:/\\!!

[Herr-Berbunch]

And it's called speed tape for a reason - tape over the weapon holes in a Spitfire's leading edge and you've got yourself another 20 kts in a dive.

[Stealhead]

There is absolutely no problem with that. From what I hear we are taping the front side of the wings of out Tornado fighter bombers too to reduce wear on them. That stuff will hold. Mountain out of molehill comes to mind and jumped upon by people with no clue as always.:/\\!!

That sounds feasible to me change it out after each flight or a set number of flying hours. We had a German civilian in our shop he had been a Luftwaffe UH-1D crewchief. He had numerous uses for high speed tape.

[Oberon]

And it's called speed tape for a reason - tape over the weapon holes in a Spitfire's leading edge and you've got yourself another 20 kts in a dive.

:yep: I believe I remember reading somewhere that it could have an effect of up to 5mph on level flight. That being said, a P-51 wouldn't quite sound the same in a dive if the gun barrels were taped over. :03:

[HunterICX]

:yep: I believe I remember reading somewhere that it could have an effect of up to 5mph on level flight. That being said, a P-51 wouldn't quite sound the same in a dive if the gun barrels were taped over. :03:

It's pretty obvious aint it as you simply don't seal the sounds of Victory&democracy now do we? :smug:

[Oberon]

It's pretty obvious aint it as you simply don't seal the sounds of Victory&democracy now do we? :smug:

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/72/721e0071afc508c0dec9756d13a97e73eb7ca7cd9e1545c365 ae15dc23732316.jpg

[Wolferz]

“The high speed metallic tape is in place as a result of some cosmetic work that is required to the aircraft paintwork,” the airline replied to him on Twitter. “It is nothing structural and in no way compromises the safety of the aircraft.”

I don't think the rivets on the cowl looked bad enough to tape over. :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

All credit to Betanov here: from his funny picture post this AM-pretty well settles the argument here on earth or any other planet we visit:/\\!!: I was going to ask moderator to switch to correct thread but did it myself!:arrgh!:http://i.imgur.com/okT2ARU.jpg?1

[Betonov]

Duct tape is magic and should be worshiped

[Sailor Steve]

Duct tape is magic and should be worshiped
Duct tape is like The Force - It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

[Tchocky]

The less all y'all know the better :arrgh!: