US woman tourist killed by lion

[Von Tonner]

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Very sad, but with the utmost respect, what on earth goes through a persons mind that they ignore warning signs in relation to a predator such as a lion.

Does one go swim in the sea when you see Great Whites and are warned not to, yet still do. Simply does not make sense at all.

And what more can the authorities of these parks do. Some on talk radio have suggested that cars entering these parks should have their windows taped and if any tape is found to be brocken on leaving a heavy fine is imposed. Well of course, that will only work for the ones who survived.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2015/06/01/american-woman-killed-lion-attack-south-african-park/qd06mzb1V98RioGYjbGzVO/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3At witter

[Harvs]

If they don't survive they could always sell their car instead of fining them, and let the French in for free if they have a bicycle.

[Tango589]

...let the French in for free if they have a bicycle.
Barbeque sauce to be smeared on as an optional extra!

[Jimbuna]

Terribly tragic but not totally unexpected when reading the circumstances.

[Rockstar]

Will park officials now set out to track and kill the poor loin now?

[Schroeder]

Will park officials now set out to track and kill the poor loin now?
I'm sure some of them are tracking down loins frequently but I doubt they kill them.:D

Sorry couldn't resist but the story is a definite Darwin award.

[Rhodes]

Always terrible, but not the only case. I remember reading, years ago, a tourist couple that were eaten by tigers in India, same thing as this case, they left the car to see the tigers (possibly to see better or what else).
Also, there is a gruesome video from the 70's or late 70's of a similar case with a tourist in Africa, with the family watching in the cars. I think it is still a dispute of if it is authentic or not!

[Von Tonner]

Very happy to see no knee jerk reaction by park keepers to shoot the lion. Apparently she was not only aware of warning signage but had been verbally informed by other tourists as well.

"The American woman killed by a lioness in the Lion Park on Monday had ignored several signs and verbal warnings not to drive through the area with her car windows open.

"The main rule was broken, not to have windows down. That is the number one rule and if people followed that, these incidents wouldn't happen. Ninety-nine percent of people do follow the rules," the park’s assistant operations manager Scott Simpson told reporters.

According to Simpson, there are more than 40 signs, both with pictures and text, warning visitors to keep their windows rolled up and stay in their cars.

He said the lioness would not be put down."

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Lion-victim-ignored-numerous-warnings-to-keep-windows-closed-20150601?utm_source=news24-pm-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletters

[HW3]

It really is hard to feel sorry for someone who blatantly disregarded the rules. Rules, something the self entitled American society thinks are for everyone else to follow but, not for them. Add on about 60 years of brainwashing that animals really do not want to hurt you, and you end up with this. We see this type of behavior every year at Yellowstone National Park with people feeding the bears from their cars or, even getting out of their cars to take pictures of the bears because "the bears won't hurt you". Who really ends up paying the price for the humans stupid behavior is the animals, as they are hunted down and killed or relocated out of their home territory. MORONS!!! (rant over):/\\!!

[Dowly]

Natural selection has spoken... well.. roared I guess in this case.

[Aktungbby]

Just so we have a fair perspective on the 'walking with lion' indu$try here: http://www.cannedlion.org/lion-walks.html (http://www.cannedlion.org/lion-walks.html) http://www.cannedlion.org/uploads/2/3/6/7/23671526/833169.jpg?252 :down:

[HunterICX]

An american tourist has been eaten by a lion!
I think burger king
http://i.imgur.com/I8IpGCO.gif
finally met his match!

[Highbury]

Someone else already said "Natural selection", but I can think of nothing that sums it up better.

[Eichhörnchen]

My great, great uncle Albert got killed by a lion in Africa during WW1 when he was in the Army: true. (He wasn't in the Army after that)

[Catfish]

Just so we have a fair perspective on the 'walking with lion' indu$try here: http://www.cannedlion.org/lion-walks.html (http://www.cannedlion.org/lion-walks.html) http://www.cannedlion.org/uploads/2/3/6/7/23671526/833169.jpg?252 :down:



:huh: Unbelievable :nope::nope::nope:

[Jimbuna]

Aye...man will always be the biggest and most dangerous predator at the end of the day.

[Betonov]

Aye...man will always be the biggest and most dangerous predator at the end of the day.

Man as a specie.
But a solitary person is prey. We're pack animals and one of them left the pack to observe predators that hunt by singleing out individuals from the herd.

[Onkel Neal]

It's not just Americans who do this:03:

In March, an Australian tourist was injured by a lioness after going on safari with his car windows open.
Brendan Smith, from Perth, was left with deep flesh wounds after the big cat pounced through the window and bit his leg.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106004/US-woman-dragged-death-lion-person-seriously-hurt-leaving-car-window-open-went-South-African-safari-park.html#ixzz3bw0NVFKG

[em2nought]

Ok, which one of you wise guys thought it would be funny to teach the lions how to do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeaztQK9If0 :D

[Platapus]

The story left out an important point?

How was the lion after this? Did the lion get sick or something? I hope it is getting checked out.

[Torplexed]

It not just with predators that people can demonstrate an extraordinary lack of respect for the power of nature.

You put in a fence and a sign in several languages at a popular, scenic waterfall.

http://www.footprintsandphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/KHW0264.jpg

Three young promising lives are lost because obviously the sign is just mandatory window-dressing, as is the fence you have to clamber over.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/21/article-2016864-0D1AC61900000578-822_634x295.jpg

And despite the tragedy, the lesson just doesn't sink in to this day.


http://mrhalfdome.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/dive-vernal.jpg

http://www.nps.gov/yose/learn/news/vfallsar11b.htm

[Buddahaid]

True but there is a big difference when in the water upstream. That granite is polished and you have no hope of getting any grip.

[fireftr18]

In the fire service, we call it job security. I've seen so much stupid people, that nothing stupid really surprises me. :/\\!!
This also reminds me of when I was doing some hurricane relief in Louisiana. The cafeteria tent had a sign that said, "The closer you are to an alligator's jaws, the lower you are on the food chain." :o

[August]

Man as a specie.
But a solitary person is prey. We're pack animals and one of them left the pack to observe predators that hunt by singleing out individuals from the herd.

This ^

[Gargamel]

As a medic, we used to refer to people like this as "Job Security".

EDIT: Dammit! Ninja'd!

In the fire service, we call it job security. I've seen so much stupid people, that nothing stupid really surprises me. :/\\!!
This also reminds me of when I was doing some hurricane relief in Louisiana. The cafeteria tent had a sign that said, "The closer you are to an alligator's jaws, the lower you are on the food chain." :o

[Von Tonner]

The victim to this incident has been named as 29 year old Katherine Chappell. She was a TV editor who worked on a number of big hit tv productions such as the current "Game of Thrones", "Captain America" etc. The police have taken her camera in to process as it appears according to witnesses to the incident she had her window fully down and was taking pics of this lioness as it started to walk towards her. It apparently climbed right into the car. The tour guide with her in the car tried to ward off the lioness and was himself seriously injured. He is in hospital in ICU and has on top of this had a heart attack. Well that does not surprise me at all.

Katherine Chappel according to reports was a keen nature conservationist and had raised money for animals here in SA. So she obviously was not an ignoramus to the wild side of nature.

[Betonov]

Would pepper spray help in such a situation ???

The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.

[Von Tonner]

Would pepper spray help in such a situation ???

The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.

I doubt it. My reasoning would be that it would just piss the beast off even more. She is in an extremely strange and confined space and would in all probability lash out at anything that so much as moved.

They say if one gets caught out in an open space with a lion your best chance of survival is firstly do not move at all. And to face it. Easy said than done I know - while you are busy losing your bowels:haha:

[Bilge_Rat]

not sure what happened, but it is not just keeping the windows open. I have had several friends who have gone on african safaris and they tour parks in open vehicles like this:

http://www.wildernesstravel.com/images/trips/africa/south-africa/south_africa_adventure-5c-lanz-von-horsten-lion-jeep-pano.jpg

A friend who went last year told me a pride was around the jeep less than 6 feet away and totally ignored them.

Apparently, according to the park employees, as long as the persons inside do not move or call out, the lions do not see them and only "see" the jeep. However, calling out is dangerous since a lion may attack once it realises there are actually people inside the jeep.

[Aktungbby]

Would pepper spray help in such a situation ???

The entire car would be gased but better than mauled by a lion.

I doubt it. My reasoning would be that it would just piss the beast off even more. She is in an extremely strange and confined space and would in all probability lash out at anything that so much as moved.



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[Aktungbby]

Forget safaris: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/17/escaped-tiger-kills-man-wounds-another-in-tbilisi/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/17/escaped-tiger-kills-man-wounds-another-in-tbilisi/)