This can't be the USA I learned to love.

[mapuc]

Found this and I hope it is wrong, when it says what would happen in 2015 instead of 1970.

http://www.youngcons.com/difference-high-school-1970-2015-couldnt-accurate/


Markus

[HW3]

Yes that is what has happened, or is happening, right now in the USA. I no longer recognize the country I'm living in.

[Oberon]

Ah, a nice balanced perspective there. :up:

[nikimcbee]

Yes that is what has happened, or is happening, right now in the USA. I no longer recognize the country I'm living in.

See Boy Scouts and water gun fights. :dead:

[Red October1984]

As somebody on the younger side of things...I 100% agree with this.

Schools are absolutely crazy with rules nowadays. Shoot, I visited a school on the east coast and it was a full metal detector pat-down just to get in the door. Had to take my belt off, empty pockets, damn near had to take my shoes off. Just to see my cousin's graduation. But I walked through my state's Capitol building and through all of the government offices with no security checks at all.

Now my school is a tad more laid back than some. Most, if not all, of the students in the high school either carry a knife or pepper spray. There's been times where I've come up to school during the summer after squirrel hunting or a day at the range and I've had to park up the street. Admin asks why? I can't park next to a school with a gun in my car. I've carried benadryl, nasal decongestant and tylenol in my backpack with no problems.

There's kids in the next town over who are being told they cannot bring their lunch to school any more because they had peanut butter on their sandwich. They don't want anybody with a peanut allergy to have an emergency.

[Buddahaid]

As somebody on the younger side of things...I 100% agree with this.

Schools are absolutely crazy with rules nowadays. Shoot, I visited a school on the east coast and it was a full metal detector pat-down just to get in the door. Had to take my belt off, empty pockets, damn near had to take my shoes off. Just to see my cousin's graduation. But I walked through my state's Capitol building and through all of the government offices with no security checks at all.

Now my school is a tad more laid back than some. Most, if not all, of the students in the high school either carry a knife or pepper spray. There's been times where I've come up to school during the summer after squirrel hunting or a day at the range and I've had to park up the street. Admin asks why? I can't park next to a school with a gun in my car. I've carried benadryl, nasal decongestant and tylenol in my backpack with no problems.

There's kids in the next town over who are being told they cannot bring their lunch to school any more because they had peanut butter on their sandwich. They don't want anybody with a peanut allergy to have an emergency.

As a seventies high school graduate I can say that these are fairly accurate to my perception. Too bad all the whiners have finally gotten their way and made an entire generation victims of everything.

I remember in Jr. high school watching a P.E. coach chase down this kid on the football field who was baiting him in good humor, catch the kid and force him to eat some grass. It was all pretty funny then but now it would be cause for firing etc. :huh:

[HW3]

I graduated high school in 1969, it is a whole different world now than it was then, and not necessarily in a good way either.:nope:

[Buddahaid]

As somebody on the younger side of things...I 100% agree with this.

Schools are absolutely crazy with rules nowadays. Shoot, I visited a school on the east coast and it was a full metal detector pat-down just to get in the door. Had to take my belt off, empty pockets, damn near had to take my shoes off. Just to see my cousin's graduation. But I walked through my state's Capitol building and through all of the government offices with no security checks at all.

Now my school is a tad more laid back than some. Most, if not all, of the students in the high school either carry a knife or pepper spray. There's been times where I've come up to school during the summer after squirrel hunting or a day at the range and I've had to park up the street. Admin asks why? I can't park next to a school with a gun in my car. I've carried benadryl, nasal decongestant and tylenol in my backpack with no problems.

There's kids in the next town over who are being told they cannot bring their lunch to school any more because they had peanut butter on their sandwich. They don't want anybody with a peanut allergy to have an emergency.

Wouldn't want the highly allergic pupil to feel left out by having them make sacrifices for their own health. It's better to make the entire school body make a sacrifice instead. I'm sorry if it offends someone, well no I'm not actually, but some people are just going to be different in spite of all well meaning intentions otherwise. Get over it. We are all unique just like everyone else......:O:

[donna52522]

It's a load of bullsnot,

It's as easy to make anti-propaganda as it is to make propaganda.

If you want to know what the USA is about, come here and see. Those who have never been here only see it from TV.

By the way, is it true everyone in Denmark is gay and has the herpes?

That's what I have heard.

[Betonov]

If you want to know what the USA is about, come here and see. Those who have never been here only see it from TV.



I heard it from the mouth of an American himself and the things I heard aren't something one would love.

But I'm white and my experience might be better than his.

[Red October1984]

Wouldn't want the highly allergic pupil to feel left out by having them make sacrifices for their own health. It's better to make the entire school body make a sacrifice instead. I'm sorry if it offends someone, well no I'm not actually, but some people are just going to be different in spite of all well meaning intentions otherwise. Get over it. We are all unique just like everyone else......:O:

Oh the government thought of that. They send sunflower butter with their program.

It's nasty, sure...but the one kid with the allergy isn't left out. :har:

[donna52522]

I heard it from the mouth of an American himself and the things I heard aren't something one would love.

But I'm white and my experience might be better than his.

Yeah, just one American? What was he doing in Slovania?

Do you know where World War 1 started?

[HunterICX]

It's a load of bullsnot,

It's as easy to make anti-propaganda as it is to make propaganda.

If you want to know what the USA is about, come here and see. Those who have never been here only see it from TV.

By the way, is it true everyone in Denmark is gay and has the herpes?

That's what I have heard.

Yeah, just one American? What was he doing in Slovania?

Do you know where World War 1 started?


If you can't be bothered to bring in your own arguments to the discussion to whom is hoping what he found isn't true as he's sharing this because he has concerns rather then use it as ammo to shoot it at the USA, don't bother to press the post reply button to begin with instead of dumping the far fetched bile that has nothing to do with what people are discussing here.

[Betonov]

Yeah, just one American? What was he doing in Slovania?

Do you know where World War 1 started?

Enough to learn things are not rosy and he's in SLOVENIA settling down with my cousin.

And WW1 started in Vienna, Berlin, London, St. Petersburg and Paris by a web of alliances, glory hungry monarchs and butt hurt French (1870).
The trigger was an assasination in Sarajevo (Austria Hungary, today Bosnia) of the Austrian heir by a terrorist organization not connected to the Serb government. It was further escalated by the hardline Austrian government that rejected Serb pleads for peace and compensations.

[Catfish]

Do you know where World War 1 started?

When England declared war, in 1914 :hmmm:

[Oberon]

When England declared war, in 1914 :hmmm:

I dunno, I'd say Vienna, for Austria-Hungary, they're the ones that really kicked it all off. Although deciding to steamroller through Belgium didn't help. Gave us a bit extra legitimacy to intervene, although we'd have found a way eventually. :yep:

I think Betonov probably got the better answer, it wasn't just one nation, although when the UK (not just England :O:) declared war, that's when it turned global.

Anyway, God help me I've decided to take this conservative clickbait apart piece by piece, it probably won't do jack but what the hell, I'm a glutton for punishment.

1) Jack and his Quail Hunting Gun
A) Well...durr, for every Jack that takes his gun in and doesn't shoot up a school, there's an Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold who take their guns in to kill as many people as possible. In light of this it should really be common sense to keep your guns as far away as possible from a school. In a way, 'Jack' was lucky not to be shot.

2) Johnny and Marks fist fight
Has this ever actually happened, to the point that SWAT gets called? The only results I get are copies of this facebook clickbait and one incident involving a teenager and two people in their twenties, that only involved SWAT because someone pulled a gun.

3) Jeffrey not sitting still
So, what's the moral of this story? That kids who might have ADD or ADHD should just suffer in silence, just because that's what their predecessors did? That they should be denied any possible treatment for their problems just because some people don't think that ADD or ADHD are real problems?

4) Billys Dad
Yeah, I can understand this one. But it's a Catch-22, because for every seemingly feeble excuse for Child Services to get involved, there are at least two or three instances where they were legitimately needed, and another three or more where they were needed but didn't get involved.
So, again, do Child Services not respond and run the risk that Billys Dad might actually be abusing Billy? You can bet that there will be a hell of a scandal if Billy was to die and it was found that Child Services could have prevented it but didn't. To be fair, this is not just an American problem, it's a global problem, but it is a sign of progression in America that they actually have organisations in place to try to prevent child abuse. Many countries don't, and this does not make them superior.

5) Mark and his aspirin
Mark may have had aspirin in his bottle of aspirin, but who is to say that Mike doesn't have ecstasy in his bottle? Again it's Catch-22. There is a problem with drugs at school, and it's one that you're never going to fully stamp out. But these zero tolerance policies are put in place to try to block various avenues in which drugs can be imported into a school. It's not perfect, but what is?

6) Pedro
Really? Pedro? :har: Anyway, I'm going to hold off on this one. There are problems in the system, and there is perhaps some element of truth in this one. The white knights do tend to cause as much damage as the racist elements in situations like this, and in the end 'Pedro' just gets lead around the houses anyway.

7) Johnny and the Bomb (with sincere apologies to T.Pratchett)
School bombings aren't really in fashion anymore because it's easier to just use a gun instead, but for why things like this should be taken seriously it's best to look at the Unabomber, Poe Elementary School, and Sterling Hall.
Makes one wonder that if the FBI, ATF and Homeland Security had been called to the Tsarnev brothers home after a failed explosion whether three Boston marathon runners would still be alive.

8) Johnny (sure lives an active lifestyle) and Mary
Yeah, again, it's another Catch-22. Now, if you were to swap the names around, and have it as a young girl and a male teacher, would it still be as acceptable? Paedophilia does happen, it is a problem, but we are still rather clumsy about addressing it. However, does that mean that it shouldn't be addressed?



Well...that's half an hour of my life I'll never get back, and for what? Urinating into the wind I suppose, but what the hell, it's my urine and I'll spray it where I want to.

In short, most of these situations fall under the 'Catch-22' scenario. Drugs, school shootings, child abuse, terrorist bombings and paedophilia, they are all real world problems and they all need addressing. Just because we are occasionally clumsy in how we address them, does this mean that they shouldn't be addressed? Just because 'Jack' accidentally left his gun in his car, does that mean that we should not take efforts to prevent Adam Lanza, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold and Seung-Hui Cho from massacring our children? Just because Billys Dad was legitimately punishing his son for misbehaviour does that mean we should not take efforts to prevent child abuse? The list goes on, but it boils down to the fact that you have to take every single threat seriously because if you don't then people will slip through the net, and people will die, people who shouldn't have died, be they adults or children. If Lanza had been stopped before he entered Sandy Hook, would 26 students and teachers still be alive? If the alarm had been raised earlier, would more people have managed to escape? Would Lanza have committed suicide earlier? Those are questions that, of course, cannot be answered, but surely if there is a chance, if there is a possibility that children can be saved from being exposed to drugs, shot or blown up by a psychopath or molested by a paedophile then it's worth the potential side-effects? Or should we just accept a portion of dead or psychologically damaged children as a fact of life? Is a childs life not worth the effort?

Something to think about. :hmm2:

[Tango589]

Do you know where World War 1 started?
Just after lunch time wasn't it?

[Oberon]

Just after lunch time wasn't it?

Baldrick: The thing is: The way I see it, these days there's a war on, right? and, ages ago, there wasn't a war on, right? So, there must have been a moment when there not being a war on went away, right? and there being a war on came along. So, what I want to know is: How did we get from the one case of affairs to the other case of affairs?

Edmund: Do you mean "Why did the war start?"

Baldrick: Yeah.

George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

Edmund: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

George: Oh, no, sir, absolutely not. [aside, to Baldick] Mad as a bicycle!

Baldrick: I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

Edmund: I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot.

Baldrick: Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir.

Edmund: Well, possibly. But the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort not to have a war.

George: By Golly, this is interesting; I always loved history...

Edmund: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superblocs developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war.

Baldrick: But this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?

Edmund: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

George: What was that, sir?

Edmund: It was bollocks.

Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing.

[Jimbuna]

Top marks for the responses :yep:

[Tango589]

Baldrick: The thing is: The way I see it, these days there's a war on, right? and, ages ago, there wasn't a war on, right? So, there must have been a moment when there not being a war on went away, right? and there being a war on came along. So, what I want to know is: How did we get from the one case of affairs to the other case of affairs?

Edmund: Do you mean "Why did the war start?"

Baldrick: Yeah.

George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

Edmund: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

George: Oh, no, sir, absolutely not. [aside, to Baldick] Mad as a bicycle!

Baldrick: I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

Edmund: I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot.

Baldrick: Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir.

Edmund: Well, possibly. But the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort not to have a war.

George: By Golly, this is interesting; I always loved history...

Edmund: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superblocs developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war.

Baldrick: But this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?

Edmund: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

George: What was that, sir?

Edmund: It was bollocks.

Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing.


:har: You typed all that out specially for here?? First rate work Oberon!!

Anyway, back on topic. I read through the OP link and gained absolutely nothing of value from it, except a nagging feeling of discomfort that the whole world is going to hell in a hand-basket. So there.

[Betonov]

except a nagging feeling of discomfort that the whole world is going to hell in a hand-basket. So there.

Like I said to my friend when we discussed foreign policy, especially China and Russia: ''the world is never as bad as the media tells us, but never as nice not to learn a survival skill or two''

[August]

Or should we just accept a portion of dead or psychologically damaged children as a fact of life? Is a childs life not worth the effort?

Something to think about. :hmm2:

Yes it is but we should also think what this tendency toward over-protectionism is doing to the nation and in particular the children that we're trying so hard to shield from all the bad aspects of life. Are we creating a generation that will be unable to stand the psychological damages of adulthood? Someday these people are going to have to stand on their own. Will they or will we have robbed them of their ability to do that?

The Great Depression hardened the generation that fought WW2. I often wonder if they had the upbringing that we're giving our kids today whether they would have had the toughness they needed to win. I have to say I have serious doubts that they could.

Before the vultures jump in I'm not advocating a return to the travails of the Depression, just thinking that we're going too far and making our kids unable to compete with a far less genteel world.

[Sailor Steve]

the whole world is going to hell in a hand-basket. So there.
As I've said many times in the past, that is a quote from pretty much everybody who has been on the losing side of every election, everywhere. :dead:

[Betonov]

@August
As I was reading your post I found this in my FB newsfeed: 5 dangerous things you should let your children do (http://www.ted.com/talks/gever_tulley_on_5_dangerous_things_for_kids)

[Oberon]

Yes it is but we should also think what this tendency toward over-protectionism is doing to the nation and in particular the children that we're trying so hard to shield from all the bad aspects of life. Are we creating a generation that will be unable to stand the psychological damages of adulthood? Someday these people are going to have to stand on their own. Will they or will we have robbed them of their ability to do that?

The Great Depression hardened the generation that fought WW2. I often wonder if they had the upbringing that we're giving our kids today whether they would have had the toughness they needed to win. I have to say I have serious doubts that they could.

Before the vultures jump in I'm not advocating a return to the travails of the Depression, just thinking that we're going too far and making our kids unable to compete with a far less genteel world.

This is spot on and a definite concern. However, I don't think that any of the problems addressed in the original link are things that would make anyone more or less tough, in fact, surviving an incident like Sandy Hook could well make you less prepared for life and give you mental conditions which will trouble you for the rest of your life. Or it could well do the opposite, but either way there are better ways to prepare a child for the rigours of the world than shootings, bombings, drugs or parental abuse.
Obviously things like suing people if your child gets a scraped knee is stupid, and the whole situation behind number 8 on the list is something else that has caused a lot of problems because it is very very hard to get the fine line right between showing affection towards a child and paedophilia, and it's a jumpy subject that's got a lot of parents concerned, and rightfully so. The media doesn't help much in this, and people tend to form mobs and go on witch-hunts as soon as there's the slightest suspicion that there's a paedophile in their midst. The quickest way to ruin someones career in this day and age is to make an allegation of paedophilia at them, whether it's accurate or not, their name is going to be dragged through the mud and that's something that a career never recovers from.

I think the biggest thing we should be worried about is how reliant we are on technology for our existence these days, if an EMP hit the continental US the death toll would be horrendous. But that's something for another topic. :yep:

[nikimcbee]

@August
As I was reading your post I found this in my FB newsfeed: 5 dangerous things you should let your children do (http://www.ted.com/talks/gever_tulley_on_5_dangerous_things_for_kids)

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okay, maybe not.


Good find though, Betonov.:up:

[nikimcbee]

It's a load of bullsnot,

It's as easy to make anti-propaganda as it is to make propaganda.

If you want to know what the USA is about, come here and see. Those who have never been here only see it from TV.

By the way, is it true everyone in Denmark is gay and has the herpes?

That's what I have heard.

You're thinking of Portland. Oh wait that's everyone is a heroin or meth addict.:dead:

[mapuc]

Thank you for your reply. As some of you understood, this is no way a "ha-ha-look-how-bad-USA-is" thread.

Here are something from the country I live in.

Every male person who work with children i baby day care, kindergarten, schools are classified as potential pedophile.( the rules have done so)

No male are allowed to have a child sitting on their knees, not allowed to hug and comfort a child, who have been hurt, while playing outside. The door to the toilet has to be wide open, when a male person follow a little child to this room.

A also remember a issue on the national news program. It was about children who get drugs just because the have a lot of "go" in their leg. Oh man, If I had been a child today I would have been a zombie- I had a lot I mean a lot of "go" in my legs.

I have through, learning about the history of USA, through meeting people from USA, learned to love this fantastic country A country of the free and for the free.

I thought that all this "rules" we have here, was not the case in USA.

If Donna is correct, then I'm the one who is really happy.

If I should take every post some of my FB-friends from USA post on their walls for granted- I would wrote things like: Wow you are living in a NK-like country and you don't know it, you get shot as soon you step outside your door, if not by some gang, criminals then by the police.
I know that is so far from the truth.

Thanks

Markus

[Betonov]

I love the knife idea.


I got my first pocket knife when I was 8 from my grandfather.
It was a small Victorinox model with 2 blades and not more than 5 other utilities. Got cut a million times, once I had to have my finger sown. I'm still here, still alive, no police record. Able to cut onions like Gordon Ramsay :shucks:

Still a fanboy of Victorinox when it comes to pocket knives.

[nikimcbee]

I got my first pocket knife when I was 8 from my grandfather.
It was a small Victorinox model with 2 blades and not more than 5 other utilities. Got cut a million times, once I had to have my finger sown. I'm still here, still alive, no police record. Able to cut onions like Gordon Ramsay :shucks:

Still a fanboy of Victorinox when it comes to pocket knives.

Between Boy Scout camp and diabetic camp, I learned everything I ever wanted to know about fire. I only lit my bed on fire once.:D

My favorite campfire trick is melting aluminum soda pop cans.

You definitely learn to respect the power of fire.

[donna52522]

If you can't be bothered to bring in your own arguments to the discussion to whom is hoping what he found isn't true as he's sharing this because he has concerns rather then use it as ammo to shoot it at the USA, don't bother to press the post reply button to begin with instead of dumping the far fetched bile that has nothing to do with what people are discussing here.


I wasn't talking to you, and now I will no longer have to hear from you.

[August]

@August
As I was reading your post I found this in my FB newsfeed: 5 dangerous things you should let your children do (http://www.ted.com/talks/gever_tulley_on_5_dangerous_things_for_kids)

That was pretty good. I look forward to reading about the other 44 and a half things. :salute:

Wonder what they might be. :hmmm:

[Schroeder]

I wasn't talking to you, and now I will no longer have to hear from you.
Don't you think you're overreacting? Would have been much more impressive if you had actually countered his accusation with your own arguments instead of publicly hitting the ignore button....:roll:

[Betonov]

That was pretty good. I look forward to reading about the other 44 and a half things. :salute:

Wonder what they might be. :hmmm:

Good guess would be ''advanced playing with fire'' aka setting up a grill capable amber bed, sewing and low voltage electric circuits.

And more on topic: there is a reason I don't allow children near my dog.
He is not aggresive but a wrong move by the dog and the child is knocked to the ground.... lawsuit. Dog gets to excited, jumps on the child.... lawsuit.

[Wolferz]

My dog has fleas.:O:

[Betonov]

Lawsuit

[Oberon]

Good guess would be ''advanced playing with fire'' aka setting up a grill capable amber bed, sewing and low voltage electric circuits.

And more on topic: there is a reason I don't allow children near my dog.
He is not aggresive but a wrong move by the dog and the child is knocked to the ground.... lawsuit. Dog gets to excited, jumps on the child.... lawsuit.

Aye, and that is the problem, lawsuits. If you took away the ability to hide behind lawyers then people might actually have to fix their issues properly.
Or, in some places they'd probably just shoot the problem. :O: :03:
Of course, again, Catch-22 because in some instances lawsuits ARE required, so how do you determine which is which? Some instances are pretty clear cut, others are somewhat less so. :nope:
There are no good answers, and that's why things are the way they are. :dead:

[Betonov]

There are no good answers, and that's why things are the way they are. :dead:

I'd put in a ''idiotic lawsuit'' clause, where judge can decide if the case is worth a lawsuit.
They are judges afterall.

[nikimcbee]

Wolferz has fleas.:O:

Fixed.:o

[Oberon]

I'd put in a ''idiotic lawsuit'' clause, where judge can decide if the case is worth a lawsuit.
They are judges afterall.

That works until the judges are given money to declare a specific case to be not worth a lawsuit. :03:

[Betonov]

That works until the judges are given money to declare a specific case to be not worth a lawsuit. :03:

Aye, but laws are always going to be abused so we need to find the lesser of two evils.

[danasan]

Baldrick: The thing is: The way I see it, these days there's a war on, right? and, ages ago, there wasn't a war on, right? So, there must have been a moment when there not being a war on went away, right? and there being a war on came along. So, what I want to know is: How did we get from the one case of affairs to the other case of affairs?

Edmund: Do you mean "Why did the war start?"

Baldrick: Yeah.

George: The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building.

Edmund: George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front.

George: Oh, no, sir, absolutely not. [aside, to Baldick] Mad as a bicycle!

Baldrick: I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.

Edmund: I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot.

Baldrick: Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir.

Edmund: Well, possibly. But the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort not to have a war.

George: By Golly, this is interesting; I always loved history...

Edmund: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superblocs developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war.

Baldrick: But this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?

Edmund: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

George: What was that, sir?

Edmund: It was bollocks.

Baldrick: So the poor old ostrich died for nothing.


Chapeau! To You, Sir.

Your comment, Sir, is the best I ever read here. Worth a place in the hall of fame 2015 or even of all - time.
A bit of Brag/BALZ and a bit of British understatement and a grain of salt. Just the sense of humour I like best.

What more could I expect today?

[Wolferz]

All a person needs to do, be you an American or whatever is, use some common sense for Pete's sake. All of these Collegiate folk seem to have had any and all common sense drummed out of them and we're left with what we have today... more ons who wear their hearts on their sleeve and are too prone to sue at the drop of a hat and quick to judge every benign act as a criminal offense. If there is no law to prevent it, they'll make one up.

This could be construed as the direct result of the" Everybody's a winner" line of child rearing. After all, we do live in a universe of dualities. Good/bad, winners/ losers, day/ night, up/down, left/right.
Aww fudge it.
I blame it all on that harlot Jodie Foster!:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

All a person needs to do, be you an American or whatever is, use some common sense for Pete's sake. All of these Collegiate folk seem to have had any and all common sense drummed out of them and we're left with what we have today... more ons who wear their hearts on their sleeve and are too prone to sue at the drop of a hat and quick to judge every benign act as a criminal offense. If there is no law to prevent it, they'll make one up.

This could be construed as the direct result of the" Everybody's a winner" line of child rearing. After all, we do live in a universe of dualities. Good/bad, winners/ losers, day/ night, up/down, left/right.
Aww fudge it.
I blame it all on that harlot Jodie Foster!:hmmm:

I was gunna blame Canada.

On a serious note, I was going to post some really funny parodies of the progressive-nanny-no fun type of people, but I couldn't find the one I was looking for.

Just for you Wolferz, You might find it funny.
Euphorians are humorously yet regularly hammered on the program, as is the mythical town of Euphoria, which isn’t all that far from the town of Garage Logic, the seat of Gumption County and just down the road from Diversityville.
As Soucheray explains on his KSTP Web page (http://www.am1500.com/gl/index.shtml), Garage Logic is a place “where common sense prevails, the two-car garage is revered and cigar smoking is allowed (and lawyers aren’t.)”“GLers want to see kids wearing a helmet while riding a bike,” he says. “Euphorians want to see them wearing a helmet while bird watching.”

[geekichick]

By the way, is it true everyone in Denmark is gay and has the herpes?

That's what I have heard.

No. But so what if they were (LGBT)?

[geekichick]

All of these Collegiate folk seem to have had any and all common sense drummed out of them and we're left with what we have today... more ons who wear their hearts on their sleeve and are too prone to sue at the drop of a hat and quick to judge every benign act as a criminal offense. If there is no law to prevent it, they'll make one up.


As someone with a degree in Comp Sci (from a college, horrors!!), I can say I have lots of common cents. Sadly, I've not got much else since I'll be paying for that degree til I die.

[Tango589]

Welcome aboard, Geekichick! :salute:

No. But so what if they were (LGBT)? It matters not a jot and I don't think the comment was meant to be taken seriously.:cool:

[Torplexed]

Just keep the Havarti cheese coming Denmark, and your reputation will always be spotless.

Oh, yeah keep McBeck's space program going too. :)

http://pyxis.homestead.com/Jutland-in-Space.jpg

[August]

No. But so what if they were (LGBT)?

You missed her point.

[jacobston]

Found this and I hope it is wrong, when it says what would happen in 2015 instead of 1970.

http://www.youngcons.com/difference-high-school-1970-2015-couldnt-accurate/


Markus

My personal favorite:

http://i.imgur.com/NkQ37rh.jpg
My point is that the pendulum sings both ways. One could say that their childhood was so much better than someone going to school today for such a reason, but I could argue just as many reasons why today is better than 30 or 40 years ago.

I guess what it comes down to here is the target demographic. This article was not written to prove a point; it was written to be shown to a group of like-minded people - in this case, right wing Americans (based on the ad (http://imgur.com/FQNHGFr) I saw at the bottom of the screen) born in the late 50's and 60's - and for them to say 'I agree' and share it with their friends. That's how these articles work. It works even better if the article can get you mad about something, in this case about how the 70's was way better than times are now.

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc) video does a better job of explaining how it works.


I actually came across a similar article a few weeks ago. A friend linked me to a page called "15 things only extroverts will understand" and said 'this is so me!' It was so clickbait, I was able to scroll down on the same page and find "15 things only introverts will understand."

Regardless, I did spend ten minutes explaining to him how Buzzfeed and clickbait demographics worked, and when he woke up I broke it to him that extroverts are, in fact, the majority.



EDIT: That said, I don't entirely disagree with this particular post either. These seem to be fairly satirical, and with that they do prove a point. It is just that the point itself isn't exactly one I agree with.

I guess it's not easy to change someone's mind on the internet :03:

[Oberon]

Very well put jacobston. :yeah:

[Torplexed]

It is kinda weird to see someone waxing so nostalgically for 1970 in particular.

Cambodia, the My Lai massacre, the Weatherman bombings, the Kent State shootings, civil unrest at home, earthquakes, famine, and martial law abroad.

Not to mention it's the year the Ford Pinto was introduced. :88)

[August]

It is kinda weird to see someone waxing so nostalgically for 1970 in particular.

In 1970 I was young and the world was my oyster. :sunny:

[Torplexed]

In 1970 I was young and the world was my oyster. :sunny:

That's how nostalgia works. The past is always resolved, romantic and rosy-looking, now that it's the past and all the unpredictable things that might have darkened one's days at the time have been long settled and forgotten, or look simple in retrospect.

Not to mention that bell-bottoms went out of style. Thank God. :D

[Jeff-Groves]

If one is still nostalgic for the 70's?
One is still smoking dope or something.

[Oberon]

Well, they do say that if you can remember the 1960s you weren't there. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

By the way, is it true everyone in Denmark is gay and has the herpes?
No.

You're thinking of Sweden.

[Oberon]

No.

You're thinking of Sweden.

http://i.imgur.com/wgE3LTs.png

[mapuc]

@donna

Denmark is what I know, the most liberal country in the world when it comes to same sex

Two grown-ups of same sex can get married in a Danish church and they can adopt a child if they want to.

I'm against all this :nope:

I have absolutely nothing against to person of same sex, should fall in love with each other, but getting married in God's own house !

Adopt a child, in my world a child shall have a mother and a father

Well that how I see it.

Markus

[Oberon]

@donna

Denmark is what I know, the most liberal country in the world when it comes to same sex

Two grown-ups of same sex can get married in a Danish church and they can adopt a child if they want to.

I'm against all this :nope:

I have absolutely nothing against to person of same sex, should fall in love with each other, but getting married in God's own house !

Adopt a child, in my world a child shall have a mother and a father

Well that how I see it.

Markus

:hmmm: Well, this explains what you were doing on youngcons.com

[Dowly]

@donna

Denmark is what I know, the most liberal country in the world when it comes to same sex

Two grown-ups of same sex can get married in a Danish church and they can adopt a child if they want to.

I'm against all this :nope:

I have absolutely nothing against to person of same sex, should fall in love with each other, but getting married in God's own house !

Adopt a child, in my world a child shall have a mother and a father

Well that how I see it.

Markus
http://i.imgur.com/E7gGoRd.jpg

[Oberon]

:haha::haha::haha: :har::har::har: :up:

[Jimbuna]

:ping::ping::ping:

[Betonov]

My opinion on it: I don't care.

M/M or W/W want a child, they should have it.
As long as it is not loud and/or near me.

[Oberon]

:ping::ping::ping:

http://replygif.net/i/263.gif

[james_nix]

Found this and I hope it is wrong, when it says what would happen in 2015 instead of 1970.

http://www.youngcons.com/difference-high-school-1970-2015-couldnt-accurate/


Markus

What's funny is when this chain email came out back in 2006 Bush was President. Now it's been recycled for Obama, and I'm sure it's going to be recycled again for the next President.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on

[August]

That's how nostalgia works. The past is always resolved, romantic and rosy-looking, now that it's the past and all the unpredictable things that might have darkened one's days at the time have been long settled and forgotten, or look simple in retrospect.

Not to mention that bell-bottoms went out of style. Thank God. :D

Nah I just miss being 10 years old! :)

[Torplexed]

Nah I just miss being 10 years old! :)

Ten back then? I'll drink to that. :)

http://d1lwft0f0qzya1.cloudfront.net/dims4/COKE/6b578ca/2147483647/resize/584x%3E/quality/75/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.coca-colacompany.com%2F12%2F1c%2F92f7d8af4430bb9ae26411 2f4184%2F082243-hi.jpg

[Tango589]

My opinion on it: I don't care.

M/M or W/W want a child, they should have it.
As long as it is not loud and/or near me.
Amen to that!:up: