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iambecomelife
05-13-15, 09:48 PM
http://trove.com/a/Search-for-missing-Malaysia-plane-yields-uncharted-shipwreck.0fUIJ?chid=168887&utm_source=editorial&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=srfan

http://archaeology.org/images/News/1505/Australia-unidentified-shipwreck.jpg

I thought this merited a thread of its own. So far we know the ship dates from the 19th Century, and may have been combination steam and sail powered. No word on her identity, as hundreds of ships have been lost in the area, which can be treacherous during monsoon season etc.

Stealhead
05-13-15, 11:05 PM
I'm surprised that is the only wreck they have found inadvertently. Makes me think of Robert Ballard when he was searching for the Bismarck they found a schooner a few days before the Bismarck was found.

iambecomelife
05-14-15, 12:01 AM
I'm surprised that is the only wreck they have found inadvertently. Makes me think of Robert Ballard when he was searching for the Bismarck they found a schooner a few days before the Bismarck was found.

I remember reading about that little incident when I was a kid, and just learning about the Bismarck.

At the time, I couldn't help but wonder if those poor guys on the sailing ship were saved? Or if they were "posted missing" like countless other 19th Century sailors? There's something scary about being in midocean with just a wooden hull and no GPS, radar, or EPIRB's. :hmmm:

Dmitry Markov
05-14-15, 04:59 AM
At the time, I couldn't help but wonder if those poor guys on the sailing ship were saved? Or if they were "posted missing" like countless other 19th Century sailors? There's something scary about being in midocean with just a wooden hull and no GPS, radar, or EPIRB's. :hmmm:

Unfortunately, even having all this stuff onboard doesn't help much in case when ship's second officer (whose job is control of stability) does his job bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Dalniy_Vostok

And I've heard tales from sailors about modern vessels capsized in calm seas because of sudden shear load.
Sea-going is still dangerous.

Oberon
05-14-15, 05:58 AM
Aye, never underestimate the sea, you get cocky and she'll kill you, even with all the modern tech we have today.

Jimbuna
05-14-15, 06:17 AM
Aye, never underestimate the sea, you get cocky and she'll kill you, even with all the modern tech we have today.

Possibly the first piece of advice given to my lad from my late father.

Oberon
05-14-15, 07:23 AM
Possibly the first piece of advice given to my lad from my late father.

My Great-Great-Grandfather learnt it the hard way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyemouth_disaster).

Jimbuna
05-14-15, 07:32 AM
My Great-Great-Grandfather learnt it the hard way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyemouth_disaster).

That's seriously tragic....my grandfather (fathers side) I never met, he was an engineer on a ship carrying ammunition which disappeared whilst sailing alone during the early days of WWII. One can only imagine the cause and hope it was a swift end.

Now my old man was a lucky bugga, he sailed throughout the Spanish troubles then WWII without a scratch despite being aboard the first ship to be bombed (Barcelona), Last one to leave Marseilles, Dunkirk, D-Day, Arctic Convoys (one of which was the only one to sail without an armed escort).

Oberon
05-14-15, 08:13 AM
That's seriously tragic....my grandfather (fathers side) I never met, he was an engineer on a ship carrying ammunition which disappeared whilst sailing alone during the early days of WWII. One can only imagine the cause and hope it was a swift end.

Now my old man was a lucky bugga, he sailed throughout the Spanish troubles then WWII without a scratch despite being aboard the first ship to be bombed (Barcelona), Last one to leave Marseilles, Dunkirk, D-Day, Arctic Convoys (one of which was the only one to sail without an armed escort).

Lucky indeed, some harsh theatres there, the odds certainly weren't in his favour.

Aktungbby
05-14-15, 11:32 AM
I lost a great uncle in WWI off Canada. He was reported lost overboard in a horrific storm while securing a deck cargo. My great-grandfather(mom's side) died (in front of his wife and daughter) when his own boat sank in the St. Lawrence Seaway. His partner made it to shore; grandma was always a little nuts after that! :o

donna52522
05-15-15, 10:25 PM
The Sea doesn't kill people...Weather and/or stupidity does.

Wolferz
05-16-15, 06:39 PM
The Sea doesn't kill people...Weather and/or stupidity does.

Those are just the circumstances that put you in the position for the sea to kill you. :know:

mapuc
05-16-15, 07:58 PM
We have a saying in Denmark "only a stupid does not fear the sea"

From my father I heard a different version
... Behave not as an invincible at sea, do not be afraid of the sea, have a lot of respect to that element

Markus