View Full Version : Tom Cruise does it again.
Bilge_Rat
04-23-15, 02:38 PM
In MI 4, he ran down the tallest building the the world.
Now in MI 5, he hangs on to a Airbus A400 as it takes off.
say what you want about him (and there is lots), but the 52 year old guy has guts!
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Tom Cruise admits his Mission Impossible 5 plane stunt terrified him
"I was actually scared ****less," Cruise told a crowd at CinemaCon at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas on Tuesday. "I was in a harness, on my side, that was kind of loose so you can see the vibration of my body against the plane."
The Rogue Nation star had made a surprise appearance during a showcase of footage from the movie at the annual convention, during which he told cinema owners and exhibitors he performed the stunt eight times at 1.5 kilometres (5000 feet) in the air.
And it was on the second take that "I got hit by just a little particle". "I literally thought it broke my ribs," he said
Perhaps the trickiest form of navigation was of a different variety. Initially, Airbus was reluctant to loan the A400 to the production; it would hardly be good publicity for its sleek new aircraft if one of the world's biggest movie stars tumbled off it at thousands of feet. Executives were especially reluctant because the takeoff would take place at a sharp angle much more common to an air show than, say, a red-eye from LAX.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/tom-cruise-admits-his-mission-impossible-5-plane-stunt-terrified-him-20150422-1mqe1m.html
Yes, Scientology does give your clear thinking and judgment...
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Jeff-Groves
04-23-15, 03:23 PM
Poor Tommy was scared.
:nope:
AirBorne Troopers do worse odds everyday.
Bet they had him strapped so good even the plane crashing would have him walking away.
Not impressed myself.
:hmph:
Aktungbby
04-23-15, 04:00 PM
You're overlooking the pure economics of it on a production: when your star is at risk and his 'bankable star' fee is in excess of $20 million...the insurance/bond factor is a little steep. A lot of people from gaffers to the teamsters count on the man being alive to do his lines. John Candy died making one of his own flicks and its a real mess.($15 million payout) Mr. Cruise ain't one of my favs but the gent does climb into a P-51 Mustang... I wouldn't do that! Worth an estimated 450 million, as of 2012 he was the highest paid actor. http://www.netquote.com/health-insurance/news/uninsurable-hollywood-stars.aspx (http://www.netquote.com/health-insurance/news/uninsurable-hollywood-stars.aspx) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/business/insuring-hollywood-against-falls-but-not-flops.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/business/insuring-hollywood-against-falls-but-not-flops.html?_r=0) On one yearlong TV production I did security on, the star, a very kind and considerate fellow, was riding his 'rice rocket' between takes...W/O his helmet! I caught his eye and slapped the top of my head adamently and immediately he stopped, went to his personal assistant following closely in a station wagon, and put the helmet on-the assistant thanked me. Point being: the star, a true professional, knew he was putting the production at risk and complied instantly. Mel Gibson reportedly had to cover his friend, Robert Downey Jr,(the Singing Detective-2003) due to his heroin issues, so he could even work again.:salute:
Herr-Berbunch
04-23-15, 04:06 PM
When you said he'd done it again I thought you meant that spending a month or two overseas living in 5* hotels and working 15 hour days was worse than being detached to a war zone.
The guys a prick but I do like most of his movies. Can't say the same for Nicolas Cage.
Platapus
04-23-15, 04:12 PM
I saw all of Tom Cruise's movies one time when I went to see one of Tom Cruise's movies. :D
I think the most telling comments about Cruise came in a review by Siskel & Ebert regarding one of his movies. One of the critics noted a main problem with Cruise is you don't really see or believe the characters he plays because it seems to always be a sort "Oh, look, Tom Cruise is playing a 'such-and-such'" rather than Cruise is actually living the character. The comparison was made how other actors, such as Hanks, Crowe, and others made you forget there was an actor on the screen and you saw and cared about a fully fleshed-out character...
Another comment made over the years regarding Cruise is he is a "lazy" actor, who only applies himself when he is faced with appearing alongside a much better co-star such as Nicholson, Hoffman, Hackman, etc. I think this is a rather fair assessment..
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Jeff-Groves
04-23-15, 04:38 PM
immediately he stopped, went to his personal assistant
I gotta get me one of those.
:haha:
the star, a true professional, knew he was putting the production at risk and complied instantly
Then why did he not have the helmet on to start with?
Nippelspanner
04-23-15, 04:57 PM
Poor Tommy was scared.
:nope:
AirBorne Troopers do worse odds everyday.
Bet they had him strapped so good even the plane crashing would have him walking away.
Not impressed myself.
:hmph:
I'm not impressed with your ridiculously unrelated comparison that probably just has to do with your hate for Cruise.
I don't like him either, but we are talking MOVIES and from that perspective, this stunt is on a new level.
nikimcbee
04-23-15, 05:41 PM
When you said he'd done it again I thought you meant that spending a month or two overseas living in 5* hotels and working 15 hour days was worse than being detached to a war zone.
The guys a prick but I do like most of his movies. Can't say the same for Nicolas Cage.
I thought he was jumping on Oprah's couch again.
Wolferz
04-23-15, 05:45 PM
Cruise is from the same city I grew up in.
If his acting sucks, blame it on the director for not motivating the guy properly and just accepting the performance.
Cruise is from the same city I grew up in.
If his acting sucks, blame it on the director for not motivating the guy properly and just accepting the performance.
Unfortunately, some less than masterful actors are more like the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Since Hollywood is now the domain of the bean counters and money-changers, the bottom line is very literally the bottom line. It's all about the "big open" and "first dollar". "First dollar" refers to the taking of a percentage of the gross revenue (not profits, either pre- or post-tax) of a film, also know as "percentage of gross". The studio, producers, and in some cases stars, writers, and a very few others, are able to get their take right off the top. Anyone else who may stand to get a piece of the films take have to get theirs from the pre- or post-tax reckonings. A "big open" (no, it's not the space between Cruise's ears) refers to a very large gross revenue on a film's opening day; the larger the gross, the larger the amount taken by the big guys. If a "star" can deliver a "big open" consistently, he/she can pretty much get away with whatever they want, including poor acting and ignoring the director and, if they are really big money makers, thumb their nose at the studio. As an analogy, think about diva NBA superstars who seem to get away with near murder simply because they put butts in the seats and generate massive media revenue for the team's owners (think Kobe Bryant)...
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Platapus
04-23-15, 06:40 PM
One of the critics noted a main problem with Cruise is you don't really see or believe the characters he plays because it seems to always be a sort "Oh, look, Tom Cruise is playing a 'such-and-such'" rather than Cruise is actually living the character.
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Tom Cruise starring as Tom Cruise in "A movie with Tom Cruise in it" :up:
Tom Cruise starring as Tom Cruise in "A movie with Tom Cruise in it" :up:
Somewhere, Tom Cruise is in ecstasy...
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Wolferz
04-24-15, 04:16 AM
At least he's not Gary Bussey.:up::haha:
At least he's not Gary Bussey.:up::haha:
http://media.giphy.com/media/3xhcEg09vHiSI/giphy.gif
Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 04:55 AM
Now that... is disturbing.
Bilge_Rat
04-24-15, 07:45 AM
well I know a lot of people obsess over what celebrities do in their personal life, personally I don't really care. A movie is an entertainment product, the only important point for me is to get a good value for my dollar. "Tom Cruise" is a known quantity, I have seen most of his recent movies, "MI 4", "Oblivion", "Jack Reacher", "Edge of Tomorrow", all were very enjoyable, good action flicks. None were great cinema, but you all know what to expect when you see a "Tom Cruise" movie and he delivers.
now the MI 5 plane stunt is a publicity gimmick, but personally I feel it adds to the movie. In "Skyfall", there were a few actions scenes where it was obvious Daniel Craig's face had been added by CGI to a stunt man. Yes, you can say its just a movie, but watching MI 4 and knowing that Tom Cruise, the actor, really did hang 150 stories up outside of a skyscraper makes the scene that more enjoyable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu0q-VlINqo
I am a big fan of the "mission impossible" TV series. A lot of purists hated the movie franchise, but personally, I like the movies. I thought MI 2 was a bit weak, but the other 3 were very good.
p.s. - personally, I think the guy is nuts, I would not do those stunts, no matter how much they paid me. :ping:
I really liked him in Tropic Thunder. Shows he is not some smug actor, afraid to embarrass himself.
WARNING: Includes adult language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFz7rZY_DDI
Betonov
04-24-15, 08:13 AM
I really liked him in Tropic Thunder. Shows he is not some smug actor, afraid to embarrass himself.
WARNING: Includes adult language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFz7rZY_DDI
His stunts really makes it tough to be un-likable.
His stunts on the other hand really makes it tough to be likable
Bilge_Rat
04-24-15, 08:41 AM
I thought he was also very good in "Valkyrie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVrd9dWfYKg
"Valkyrie" was written off by a lot of people because he was the star, but it is a very good movie, well made and mostly historically accurate.
..plus how can you not like a movie that uses real JU-52s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtdx4LCngVA
Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 09:31 AM
well I know a lot of people obsess over what celebrities do in their personal life, personally I don't really care. A movie is an entertainment product, the only important point for me is to get a good value for my dollar. "Tom Cruise" is a known quantity, I have seen most of his recent movies, "MI 4", "Oblivion", "Jack Reacher", "Edge of Tomorrow", all were very enjoyable, good action flicks. None were great cinema, but you all know what to expect when you see a "Tom Cruise" movie and he delivers.
now the MI 5 plane stunt is a publicity gimmick, but personally I feel it adds to the movie. In "Skyfall", there were a few actions scenes where it was obvious Daniel Craig's face had been added by CGI to a stunt man. Yes, you can say its just a movie, but watching MI 4 and knowing that Tom Cruise, the actor, really did hang 150 stories up outside of a skyscraper makes the scene that more enjoyable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu0q-VlINqo
I am a big fan of the "mission impossible" TV series. A lot of purists hated the movie franchise, but personally, I like the movies. I thought MI 2 was a bit weak, but the other 3 were very good.
p.s. - personally, I think the guy is nuts, I would not do those stunts, no matter how much they paid me. :ping:
I thought he was also very good in "Valkyrie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVrd9dWfYKg
"Valkyrie" was written off by a lot of people because he was the star, but it is a very good movie, well made and mostly historically accurate.
..plus how can you not like a movie that uses real JU-52s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtdx4LCngVA
Well said/explained.
I also agree on Valkyrie.
That movie was great for many reasons, though I was skeptical, to say the least, when I heard that Cruise is going to play Stauffenberg.
After watching the movie 2-3 times over the years, I can only applaud him, he did a fantastic job and at least in this movie, he wasn't "Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise in a movie about Tom Cruise" - which usually is true (and OK for 'lighter' cinema). :)
It kinda reminds me of Kristen Steward.
She got and still gets a lot of Flak for some personal choices (note: PERSONAL...) and is blamed for being a mono-expressionist, which I honestly don't agree on.
If you watch her movies - except the infamous vampire crapseries - you must note that she is indeed talented.
She was great in 'Camp X-Ray' and last night I've seen her in 'Still Alice', where I also liked her (though Julianne Moore completely stole it!:timeout:).
People often just hate on some actors/musicians/whateverartist out of some personal agenda and not honest judgement... and frankly that pisses me off.
You don't have not like her, or anyone. But at least admit talent when you see it...
Same with Cruise. He is great at what he's doing.
Or Mel Gibson... damn what a talent... and what a whacko... :D
Sailor Steve
04-24-15, 10:42 AM
I especially enjoyed Cruise's unexpected performance in Collateral. That's one I highly recommend.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369339/
Wolferz
04-24-15, 10:50 AM
Can dance in heavy makeup. :up::haha:
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 03:35 PM
I'm not impressed with your ridiculously unrelated comparison that probably just has to do with your hate for Cruise.
I'm not impressed with your totally ridiculous assumptions.
So we're even.
:har:
Point, Jeff-Groves and match...
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Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 07:56 PM
Well, not really.
What he wrote above about Cruise obviously has to do with some personal dislike - which is fine, I won't blame anyone for that.
But downgrading an extraordinary movie stunt just to bash the person and then even blubber on about "hurr personal assistant durr" is rather low, don't you think, vienna?
On top, blaming one of the top celebrities for even having a PA simply shows his lack of knowledge about that industry.
And the comparison to airborne troops, really I mean... what!? :doh:
:down:
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 08:07 PM
obviously has to do with some personal dislike
Oh I am so glad you are Psychic!
Bet no one pulls a surprise party on you!
:har:
I happen to like some of his movies and acting. Just not the publicity some seem to eat up as if he was something special.
So if it will calm your feelings you win.
Like I could give a flying fleck anyway.
:salute:
(or would that be a flying Tom Cruise?)
Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 08:11 PM
If I am so far off, why don't you explain your bashing above?
Everything you wrote was directed against his person - not his job/performance.
And why don't you acknowledge that that stunt was something special, why the need to put it down?
Also, why the airborne comparison, how does that have anything to do with each other?
I am just curious.
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 08:17 PM
Your so smart, smug, and self indulgent, you figure it out.
Wolferz
04-24-15, 08:25 PM
Richarded by a knight of the Richards.:O:
Never met Tom Cruise but I have met snaggletooth from the movie Stripes. I partied with him, his friend and a cow.:sunny:
I've also run into Jack Palance... literally. I got his famous I'll kill ya stare.:huh: He once invited my wife and one of her friends to go horseback riding...
She said she just laughed at him and said no thanks.:haha:
Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 08:27 PM
Your so smart, smug, and self indulgent, you figure it out.
Well, I think we both know why you now play the snarky "couldn't care less" guy instead of providing an honest and simple answer, don't we?
Ah, look, just me being psychic again. :03:
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 08:35 PM
Ah, look, just me being psychic again. :03:
Now your catching on!!
:haha:
You Germans. I swear!
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Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 08:37 PM
Now your catching on!!
:haha:
You Germans. I swear!
:03:
It's OK, be a dick about it, I know it makes you feel better.
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 08:44 PM
I am a Richard!! Let's get that straight!
Now since I must explain I'll type real slow so you can follow along.
:D
I don't dislike Tom.
I dislike his publicity as being something special when others do more dangerous things everyday as a matter of duty.
Still there?
I only post my opinion based on my thoughts and do not expect others to agree.
Still here?
You want an argument over Tom Cruise? Hell I told you you win!! Where do I send the Cup Cake?
:har:
Nippelspanner
04-24-15, 08:46 PM
As I said, I know you need to be a dick about it to feel better. :03:
Thanks for making my point.
Jeff-Groves
04-24-15, 08:49 PM
Well I'm so happy that you are happy now.
Should I ever be of service to you as a Richard again feel free to call.
:salute:
Jimbuna
04-25-15, 06:39 AM
Thank you gents and back to civility if you'd both be so kind.
Aktungbby
04-25-15, 10:49 AM
^really. Actually after his public flap with Brooke Shields in some misguided Scientology philosophy, Mr. Cruise was humble enough to admit his error; personally apologize and confess that 'his job is simply to entertain people' and he sticks to that. In an Interview with a Vampire,:down: the author was opposed to him in the lead role opposite Brad Pitt . This was initially criticized by author Anne Rice, who said that Cruise was "no more my vampire Lestat than Edward G. Robinson is Rhett Butler" and the casting was "so bizarre; it's almost impossible to imagine how it's going to work". Nevertheless, she was satisfied with Cruise's performance after seeing the completed film, saying that "from the moment he appeared, Tom was Lestat for me" and "that Tom did make Lestat work was something I could not see in a crystal ball." The man has talent:stare: and whatever his shortcomings, he gets the job done for his productions and himself..and we'll pay to see it! Since Hollywood is now the domain of the bean counters and money-changers, the bottom line is very literally the bottom line. It's all about the "big open" and "first dollar". Cruise-bankable star-delivers the bottom line! And three actors have won Oscars opposite him: Paul Newman, Dustin Hoffman, and Cuba Gooding Jr. What movies are all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs) :arrgh!:
Jeff-Groves
04-25-15, 09:03 PM
Thank you gents and back to civility if you'd both be so kind.
I will offer my apologizes and such to you and Nippelspanner.
I'm a Richard and often go overboard forgetting humor is a local thing.
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