The Real End of the World

[Kaptlt.Endrass]

I'm talking about when we HAVE to lose our planet: when the sun decides its had enough, burns all of its hydrogen, and dies. Red giant, swallowing the inner planets, lovely stuff like that.

What's interesting though, is that people today care about this happening; It won't for another 4.4-4.6 billion years. No clue why, but there's the facts.

I'm just bringing this into light because we have to think. NASA and ESA (European Space Agency) are working on getting us to Mars now. By the time our star's number is up, where do you think we'll be in terms of space exploration technology? Will we be able to migrate to a new planet (using Star Trek tech?) and continue life there?

[Salahadin]

I'm talking about when we HAVE to lose our planet: when the sun decides its had enough, burns all of its hydrogen, and dies. Red giant, swallowing the inner planets, lovely stuff like that.

What's interesting though, is that people today care about this happening; It won't for another 4.4-4.6 billion years. No clue why, but there's the facts.

I'm just bringing this into light because we have to think. NASA and ESA (European Space Agency) are working on getting us to Mars now. By the time our star's number is up, where do you think we'll be in terms of space exploration technology? Will we be able to migrate to a new planet (using Star Trek tech?) and continue life there?
No way man, with current tech almost impossible
:hmm2:

[Aktungbby]

When the sun expands into a red giant....you simply remove the R from ENDRASS!:sunny::03: and enjoy that last Hamm's...:()1:You're your own BBQ BBY! and just so the concept is clear:http://i.space.com/images/i/000/032/002/i02/red-giant.jpg?1377122543God does not permit so-called civilizations that have mucked up their Eden playpen to migrate-that's why he invented this!:/\\!! Thank god! he keeps his word ...NO FLOOD!:timeout: AND A "WARM WELCOME"?!:oops: TO SALAHADIN!:Kaleun_Salute:

[GoldenRivet]

1. I doubt mankind will be around another 400 years let alone 4 billion. The smaller the world becomes the more convinced i am that it is our destiny to destroy ourselves

2. It takes roughly 8 and a half minutes for sunlight to reach earth, going on the assumption that her supernova would take a similar time to consume our planet... well... if the missus is cooperative, i for one can get a hell of a lot done in 8 and half minutes and the end shall come at roughly the same time that i do. :up:

3. if the 4 billion year estimate is even remotely accurate... well, you could set this planet on fire and roll it into a black hole and my emotions on the matter wouldn't amount to two turds in a rusty bucket

[Aktungbby]

2. time to consume our planet... well... if the missus is cooperative, i for one can get a hell of a lot done in 8 and half minutes and the end shall come at roughly the same time that i do. :up:


Consummating the WHA...:k_confused:....If it's an expanding red giant(200 times its size) you better rethink your 8.5 min. Skip the 'customary' preliminaries for once- saves time!:woot::O: :Kaleun_Los: Tell her you'll 'respect her in the morning though'!:salute: sunrise should be....interestinghttp://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/01/24/science/24QA/24QA-jumbo.jpg

[Torplexed]

By the time the sun starts going into its death throes, we will have evolved into something not quite us in a mere 50 thousand years. I'd worry about the implications of that first.

I don't think most people consider the time involved. It's "only" been about half a billion years that there has been multi-cellular life on the planet, but we're talking ten times that when the sun goes. I hope there will be something that develops from us and isn't limited to one planet in five billion years, but I would be quite surprised if there were still recognizable humans. It's possible our machines (with an AI capability we can't imagine) might be the future heirs of our civilization and wouldn't have a lot of our frailties and limitations when it comes to existing in space.

But then an asteroid might come along at anytime and render the whole argument moot. :)

[Jimbuna]

But then an asteroid might come along at anytime and render the whole argument moot. :)

That was my initial thought but either way, I won't be around to witness anything.

[HunterICX]

No way man, with current tech almost impossible
:hmm2:

Tech isn't the problem, our human mentality is.
We're more inventive in ways to destroy one another then doing the opposite.

[u crank]

What's interesting though, is that people today care about this happening; It won't for another 4.4-4.6 billion years. No clue why, but there's the facts.


Well that's enough time to run the whole single cell to human thing a few more times. There's no hurry. :O:

[Oberon]

By the time the sun starts going into its death throes, we will have evolved into something not quite us in a mere 50 thousand years. I'd worry about the implications of that first.

I agree, and will go into more detail a bit later when I have time to type. :yep:

[Dowly]

By the time the sun starts going into its death throes, we will have evolved into something not quite us in a mere 50 thousand years. I'd worry about the implications of that first.
http://preventdisease.com/images/devolution_n.jpg

[STEED]

Bring it on baby. :sunny:

Sooner the better.

[nikimcbee]

http://preventdisease.com/images/devolution_n.jpg

:haha::up: That's awesome Dowly!

On a side note, isn't that what all the religious people want? [insert god here] will judge us/save blah blah blah. Paging Skybird now.

[STEED]

http://preventdisease.com/images/devolution_n.jpg

Some scientist will tell you the Human race has peaked and we are heading back to the primeval soup.

[Aktungbby]

:sign_yeah:^AS IN: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Kilroy_Was_Here_-_Washington_DC_WWII_Memorial.jpg/300px-Kilroy_Was_Here_-_Washington_DC_WWII_Memorial.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kilroy_Was_Here_-_Washington_DC_WWII_Memorial.jpg) and then died out!:/\\!!...better for elephants and whales IMHO!

[nikimcbee]

End of the World stuff?
So Steed is voting Tory now?

Meteor on it's way.:/\\k:

[Oberon]

I agree, and will go into more detail a bit later when I have time to type. :yep:

And now back from the hospital I can elaborate.

We are coming steadily but swiftly up to the Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity). Computers are becoming faster and stronger, and with the likely event of Moores law coming into play in the near future we will be moving into new forms of processors and memory storage. Also we're rapidly expanding our interconnectivity.
Within a century, two at the most, I would wager that the line between man and machine will be either blurred or non-existent. Following that, and the solution of the complex ethical and social questions that it poses, we will likely shed our physical bodies entirely and move towards a data based existence with our physical bodies being created by machines for our consciousness to inhabit if we desire for trips outside of the mainframe.
In this regards, the entire consciousness of humanity can be easily uploaded to a probe and sent outside of the solar system when the sun enters the phases we've already discussed. These probes could be Von Neumann machines which will find an unhabited planet and terriform it for us before building the structures which will create bodies for our consciousness to exist in.

These things are likely to happen, short of a hit by a planetoid sized rock which would wipe us out entirely. Other events, plague, nuclear war, standard sized asteroid hit (dinosaur extinction sized) would set us back extremely far in our technological and social development, but it would be unlikely to destroy humanity entirely. A species of such size is very hard to destroy utterly, even the dinosaurs themselves weren't utterly wiped out, our birds are proof of that, they just changed as a result of the dramatic change in their environment.

[mapuc]

That our world has an expiration date is nothing new. the interesting is to read all these "funny" things on the Internet, when something natural things are about to happen, like the solar eclipse we had a few weeks ago. According to them-we are facing the end of the world at every cosmic occurrences.

The translation of the sentence "End of the world is" to Danish is funny ´cause here they say "jordens undergang" = " earth's destruction or end of the earth"

When Danish news paper or people write that, I use to ask them how much knowledge they have about our planet-Tellus. I even ask them how got they are at translating from English to Danish.

There's a huge different between end of the world and the end of our planet.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

According to them-we are facing the end of the world at every cosmic occurrences.

The translation of the sentence "End of the world is" to Danish is funny ´cause here they say "jordens undergang" = " earth's destruction or end of the earth"

When Danish news paper or people write that, I use to ask them how much knowledge they have about our planet-Tellus. I even ask them how got they are at translating from English to Danish.

There's a huge different between end of the world and the end of our planet.

Markus The more so as Alexander the Great turned the concept to fabulous profit at Gaugamela with a lunar eclipse and R.E.M. cranked out a hit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY) ... and of course a decent Danish director too: Lars Van Trier's Melancholia with one of my favorite actresses. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4NjM0MjI3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjcxMDYzNg@@._ V1_SX214_AL_.jpg
There's a lunar eclipse tonight in Napa....:hmmm: