Other Submarine forums?

[nsomnia]

Looking for all the info I can gather on SSN-571 (USS Nautilus) for my subsim project. Any one have any suggestions for forums where I might find retired navy vets or just history buffs that might be able to tell me more about her systems and layout? There is SO little information on the net about her its amazing, considering shes still afloat as a museum peice.

Not looking down on the Radio Room, just looking for more die-hard fans that might want to spread their knowledge.

Thanks.

[Mr Quatro]

I see you've already been over to the Sub and Naval discussions forum.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197714

There is one last thing you can do check all of the old veterans homes for any sailors that were on the Nautilus SS-571.

My grandfather was on SS-573 but it was a diesel boat back in the 1960's.

Good luck with your project ... we had a group go up to New London and took some pictures. Do a research right here on subsim. :up:

[Onkel Neal]

Ron Martini's sub forum (http://messdeck.com/forum/) has the most Sub vets I know of.

[nikimcbee]

Neal Steven's "Deep Domain.":hmmm:
http://www.deepdomain.net/

Looks kinda clunky...

[Tango589]

Ron Martini's sub forum (http://messdeck.com/forum/) has the most Sub vets I know of.
Neal, the link is inoperative. Just a '404 file not found'.:down:

[Jimbuna]

Neal, the link is inoperative. Just a '404 file not found'.:down:

Link is working fine...put another shilling in the meter.

http://messdeck.com/forum/

[Tango589]

Link is working fine...put another shilling in the meter.

http://messdeck.com/forum/
I've bypassed the meter, so that can't be the problem, however, this is all I get:

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm260/tango589/messdeck.png

Very mysterious.

[nikimcbee]

Neal's shirt!

[Tango589]

:agree::haha:

[Oberon]

Looking for all the info I can gather on SSN-571 (USS Nautilus) for my subsim project. Any one have any suggestions for forums where I might find retired navy vets or just history buffs that might be able to tell me more about her systems and layout? There is SO little information on the net about her its amazing, considering shes still afloat as a museum peice.

Not looking down on the Radio Room, just looking for more die-hard fans that might want to spread their knowledge.

Thanks.

Neal might be able to get you in touch with Bill Nichols if he's heard from him lately, Bill served on the Nautilus:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=209999

[Jimbuna]

Neal's shirt!

I shouldn't go there, the amnesty from your festive period has transpired :o

[nsomnia]

Wow thanks for the info guys. I emailed 126 guys from a naval register yesterday (not realizing even any 20 year olds aboard her are now double my age and more) but did find a couple guys who said they have some drawings directly from GEBD they might be able scrounge from the attic/shed (why let history waste away like that! :wah:)

I'm still scrounging the world WIDE web, and going to keep most personal contact away until I get further along, otherwise its "Am I wasting my time on some guys, that could be half the world away, dream, or there actually something to this request" or are these guys really that helpful? (I know you guys are all great I see little to no spamming/downtalking etc. on this board. )

I have hundreds of pictures from flickr of her, but the museum glass/plexi really gets in her way and you have no "sense" of how she was constructed as all engineering spaces are unavailable obviously and it only shows key things the general is public is interested in "oh look a periscope, oh look a torpedo". Ill search around the radioroom to find the thread.

There is one last thing you can do check all of the old veterans homes for any sailors that were on the Nautilus SS-571.Unfortunately quite a few states and even a maple syrup drinking border guard away from CT.

Will check out the links and consider getting in touch with this mysterious 'Bill' in short order. Much regards!

MessDeck is working fine, registered and will post. Thanks a ton guys I really do appreciate it.

From my other thread:


I've found SOME equipment names from staring until my eyes start to tear up at noisy blurry photos of public photos from the museum. I've emailed 126 vets (about half have no email anymore, and I imagine a good few are on eternal patrol I realized after sending them out)

The fuel supply was rated for 1 year but lasted 18 months (reported as 2 years), she had a jukebox, projector, coke machine, ice cream machine, automatic dishwasher, EM log "Sword" to get the ships speed, test depth of 700', typical 3000psi HPA system standard of late WWII boats, 24 knts submerged and 21-22 surfaced due to her old style bow, Kodak made a special periscope camera for her, 3 "Rev 0" alarms, some course indicator called "us navy BuShips; dead reckoning equipment no 750425; dead reckoning analyzer indicator class II; mark 3 mod 0 serial no <unreadable> contract no <unreadable> inspector <unreadable>; ARMA corporation; Brooklyn, N.Y.", C-1376/BPS antenna control the rest is unreadable except navy dept - BuShips western elctric company", AN/BPS-5A Radar <XXX> again all unreadable, C-3723(or 8)/BPS all unreadable, AM/SPA 48 something to do with the scope reads "before periscope maintenance insure the following switches are secured and red tagged 1. main power (radar dist pnl) 2. own ships head (IC/ACO swbd), 3. target bearing information (FC SWBD), 4. sync power (radar room fwd bulkhead)", fuses for: ships entertainment system (bet thatd be fun to pull during movie night!), ECM leak detector, AN/BPS-5A mast cont and h-something (hoist i think), salinity ind pnl, C.L.P.ILLUM, peris <unreadable> and <unreadable> solver , MAC stabilized platform and MAC indicator panel, TL dead reckoning and BRH-7<unreadable, sticker maker sticker>, mk 10X XX test resXrt, AN/WR<x> 57N7<unreadable> s0<unreadable>, Position Keeper Mk 1 mod 1, converter Mk4 mod 0, (wthe last 2 with their voltage readable), Firing Panel Off-on-Off, 24 VDC Off-PK, <unreadable> panel mark 21: mark xx mod 10 mark xx mod 0, mark xx, rel at indicator mk 10 mod 0, <lots and lots of unreadable>, intercom system from conn room: 1. torp room 2. CO stateroom 3. crews mess 4. unreadable 5. ships unreadable 6. wardroom 7. control room 8. attack something i dont think center, 9. radar room 10. radio room (9 and 10 may be reversed) 11. sonar room 12. unredable 13. unreadable maybe navigation 14. unreadable 15. something room. 16 unreadable, we have a OR-133(V)/URN Receiver-computer group supply 15v 400hz part of receiving set omgea an/brn 6 of receiving set omega an/srn-17, of navigation set omega an/arn-99(V) manufactured for navy dept naval electronics system command by contractor northrop corporation electronics divison, a nice plaque above the sonar indicator and handle that i havnt found a clear picture of that the museum has labeled sonar receivong set an/xxx-xx, a handle that says something MBT blow then indicates 3 positions something / neutral / air to stbd, a handle that says 10 LB blow 5A and 5B (10 lbs.... thats not alot of air) with positions open/shut, a label that says low pressure blower motor controller "Fast", AN/BLR-10A CONTR. AMP, SG-333, AN/BLA-2C, AN/<unreadable>, LS(5?)-474-v something planes something radio the last few things all beside the sonar unit, recorder-reproducer set recorder-reproducer sound RD246/UNQ-7B blah blah blah unreadable navy dept BuShips, below those tapes, SK-250 MAINTENENCE KIT (P/O AN/WLR-10(V)1) LOCATED INSIDE, by the drivers we got a ton of control panels i cant read, museum labels "general announcing panel" which is the AF AMPLIFIER TYPE TC-20, Got a nice pic of the Sperry gyrocompass control panel and below it the MK 21 auxillery compass, radio-room/ESM room doesnt have alot readable, got nice pics of the trim pump control switch, the trim tank manifold, the HPA manifold and diving/other levers (people say hydrualic controls but I think they are air) which im modelling currently, by the trim tank controls there is two switches one that has 2 positions slow and full and the other etst and no idea, the antenna mast hoist control manifold has 5 handles with positions hoist/neutral/lower labled VLF LOOP (very low frequency), BRA-9, BRA-19, ECM D/I, BRD-6. UHF IFF (ultra high frequency something something somehting) and I got a good picture of the mast position indicator with buships number and EB Div plan No., as well as radar mast lights, collision alarm: 9000-s6504-74055-rev 2 off/on, diving alarm: 9000-s6504-74055-rev 2 off/on, yellow colored alarm (battle stations?) 9000-s6504-74055-rev F off/on, emergency alarm off/on same serial number rev 2 looks like. the high pressure air manifolds youll all see soon enough when I have it done modelled, i got a photo of the xmas trees for the hull openings, vents, floods, valves and hatches, and snorkel ctrl pnl , wayyy too many lights to write, we ghot a mk 19 mod 31 gyro compass contro panel with the mark 24 mod 0 auxillary compass, and of course the AN/WQC-2 communicatinos set sonar with RT-67G/WDG-2 receiver-transimtiter sonar lots of buttons lights and stuff, another picture that has more fuses for the periscope illuminatinom, edm leak detector and a few others, general announcing control panel has at least 30/40 switches and some rotating switches the AF amplifier type IC/BGL-2S, the loudspeakers are dynamic type LS-305/S1C made by Jensen manufacturing co contract no. N126-090805, The nav center "radio direction finder set - an/brd-6b, a loran c receiver set - an/wpn-4 and a loran a receiver set - an/upn-2a, manual plot on the mk-19 plotter, the icecream machine was made by scottsman,

and lastly the scopes and sensors from aft to fwd in the mast
snorkel, IFF/UHF omi-directional antenna, VLF loop, BRD-6B detections and determines directino of enemy radio/radar transmissions, BRA-19 retractable antenna for transmission and receivning medium and high frequency radio signals ESM/DF electronic support measures detects and terminse directors of enemy radio/radar transmissions, BPS-5A general and tactical search radar for surface searrch, torpedo firing control, and detection of low flying aircraft, BRA-9 retractable antenna for transmitting and receiving medium and high frequency radio transmissions, type 2f perisscope any height attack scope for daytime use, type 8B scope can be used at niht includes internal radar radio and esm stub-antenna, at-441/MRC emergency whip antnna for med/high freq. radio signals navaid beacon light the ships bell and the ships signal whistle.

Phew. Thats all the info I have on her after about 20 straight hours of scouring the net and straining my eyes. At least I finally got it all down on paper somewhere.


Anyone who has any general knowledge of any of the above equipment that sticks out at them let me know.

[nsomnia]

Neal might be able to get you in touch with Bill Nichols if he's heard from him lately, Bill served on the Nautilus:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=209999
I got bills email from the Navy register, he was on the list: billnicolas@subguru.com I'll see if he answers. Maybe he has an updated email.

[nsomnia]

A Mr. G. Clancy is going to mail me copies of some construction prints from General Electrics Electric Boat division. This is why I reach out! :up:

[Mr Quatro]

A Mr. G. Clancy is going to mail me copies of some construction prints from General Electrics Electric Boat division. This is why I reach out! :up:

Good job nsomnia ... :up:

How do we know your not some North Korean online spy trying to build your own nuclear powered submarine using the plans of the old SSN-571?

Not that you are not who you say your are that is ... just kidding :ping:

[nsomnia]

Good job nsomnia ... :up:

How do we know your not some North Korean online spy trying to build your own nuclear powered submarine using the plans of the old SSN-571?

Not that you are not who you say your are that is ... just kidding :ping:

LOL. :rotfl2:Have you seen the subreddit on reddit.com for north korea, i think its http://www.reddit.com/r/pyuong or however you spell their capital city? Im not racist or patriot or anything but its all "Great leader this and bad america that" and anyone who doesnt say anything amazing about the perfect total leader and terrible americans get insta-banned.

[Onkel Neal]

Neal might be able to get you in touch with Bill Nichols if he's heard from him lately, Bill served on the Nautilus:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=209999


Alas, Bill told me he was moving from DC to Alabama 4 years ago and I have not heard from him since :wah: I've sent him several emails and postcards, so all I can assume is he does not wish contact, or something worse. Hopefully, he is ok.

[nsomnia]

No word of Bill either, but I've only really been in contact with a D.W. who has been kind enough to send me plans, layouts, and drawings of 571. Even though he says there's no reason they shouldn't be publicly available I'm hanging onto them my little secret. :arrgh!:

And these guys dont want a cheque (of course no one at that age knows what a PayPal is) or anything, just the same love we share for these boats.

*Sigh* what a generation.

[nsomnia]

Alas, Bill told me he was moving from DC to Alabama 4 years ago and I have not heard from him since :wah: I've sent him several emails and postcards, so all I can assume is he does not wish contact, or something worse. Hopefully, he is ok.

Unfortunately of this list of over 650 crew members I was e-mailed he is not on the list, not even on the "no contact" list.