Torture to death, week for week

[Skybird]

Raif Badawi, a Saudi blogger, criticised the religion police in that hellhole of a place. For that he got sentenced to 1000 strokes with the whip, which will be given in small doses of 50 strokes every Friday after prayer, in public.

His first dose of aid to lead him back on the path of virtue he already got last Friday, and Western media almost did not notice. Today its Friday, and hipphipphooray: it's another holy day! Today he will get the next 50 strokes.

Western politicians as far as I'm aware have not mentioned this barbary and murder on rates at all, not to mention that no diplomatic pressure has been implied.

Badawi was described to have spend all the week in severe pains already.

The good news is that he will not get 1000 strokes. He will be dead long before. It will be a death over weeks, in greatest pains.

Think of this poor guy today, and next Fridays to come. He endures torture to death for having practiced values that we like to claim are being written on our flags.

[Skybird]

Just in: AI says that they got word that Badafi'S health is so bad still from his beatings last week that the penalty of today will be delayed.

Not stopped. Delayed.

It seems they plan to keep him alive long enough that he really can take those 1000 strokes.

I think we should call back all diplomatic staff, grab all their ambassadors in our home countries and give them a public whipping with the cane, 100 strokes after their hypocritical prayers on Friday, then send them back more dead than alive to their places under those rocks in the desert where they came from and where they can make a nest again and peacefully mourn and bleed.

On the one side Iran et al, on the other Saudi Arbaia and the likes. I have no clue why we even care for staying engaged in such primitive and unpleasant company. Ah, I foregot: OIL. Okay. Go on, whip Badawi to death. Oil is worth it. And we swallow Saudi funding of Muslim terrorism and Iranian nukes, too.

Did they call it the dance around the golden calf? Black, greasy calf might be closer to the truth.

[Onkel Neal]

I agree. If it wasn't for the oil, this would be a huge human rights issue. I would be ok with a change in how we deal with the Saudis and their oil.

[Skybird]

Got fracking stocks recently...? :D

:woot:

Just (grimly) kidding.

[Mittelwaechter]

Let's call it enhanced penalization methods, ok?

[Wolferz]

Ah, the old religion of peace.:doh:

Forgive them and forget it.

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30856403

King's office now intervenes and refers the case to some supreme court for review.

Heck, I did not know until know that the penalty beyond the 1000 floggings also included 10 years prison after that. :huh:

Saudi Arabia. Home of the zombie prisons.

[Nippelspanner]

Poor guy. That is pretty much all I can say. The rest will probably get me banned from this place and I wouldn't want that...

[STEED]

UK Government's view on Saudi Arabia, nice country nice people. :rolleyes:

My view on that, spineless gits.

[Skybird]

He already has been under arrest since over two years. Not only should he be tortured to death and serve ten years in prison, he also should pay 250 thousand dollars: once they embark on absurdity, they are really going after it, it seems.

His crime is that he founded an internet forum where he repeatedly criticised the ultra-rough rigidity and brutality of the religious police enforcing Wahabitic (?) rules and conventions. Just that, nothing else.

To give the story the face:

http://img.welt.de/img/kommentare/crop136420079/8270197559-ci3x2l-w780/Raif-Badawi-2-.jpg

Shiver and cry in fear , ladies and gentlemen - you stare into the evil, wicked eyes of offence to Islam itself. That is the official accusation.

[Oberon]

Well, that's what happens when your entire society is based around oil. You make strange bedfellows. :ping:

[Otto Harkaman]

I said I wouldn't post on threads like this, but...

....errr I think I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.

[Armistead]

These floggings are common in SA and the ME in general, saw one not long ago of a woman for some crime against religion. Course, this was typical in Christianity not so many generations ago....rack them, pull some intestines out while the holy priest says the righteous prayers...

No doubt, as always, the clerics want to maintain wealth and power and don't want secularism to bring the nations out of the dark ages. Hell, if they weren't sitting on so much oil, the entire ME would still be roaming the deserts on camels....

Right to religion is one thing, but when that right is inhumane the world should expose it and put a stop to it. It's wrong so much evil still continues to hide behind the name of religion. However, being the hypocrites we are, we'll ignore it for the oil......No world outcry, no UN meetings, no sanctions like we do other nations.....

[Oberon]

However, being the hypocrites we are, we'll ignore it for the oil......No world outcry, no UN meetings, no sanctions like we do other nations.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

[Skybird]

*** edit: the original post by Platapus to which this is my sharp and crystal-cear reply, meanwhile has been deleted by Platapus. ***

It'S been a long time since I read such self-contradicting drivel here. Cannot even imagine when it was.

Sorry Platapus, but that is dud what you wrote there: or in good old German: a "Rohrkrepierer".

You could as well say: I did not agree with the order of Eastgerman guards to shoot (to kill) at people trying to make it across the inner-German border (formed of minefields, self-shooting automats, barbed and electro wire, and running lanes for fighting dogs), but I respect it. If you lived in Eastgermany and tried to cross the border in an effort to escape the tyranny and find freedom in the west, you had lost the right to be seen as a victim of injust laws. The Eastgerman dictatorship did not go out hunting them - but they baited it.

Or in plain words: the woman got not raped against her will. She provoked getting raped by being there, and being a woman.

You just have written the excuse why no injustice in the world and in villent states should be consdered anymore, and why all people suffering from that should be seen as provocateurs who just get what according to the way of life in their place they deserved.

Man, come back to your senses. Its a huge difference to realise that in other countries there are other rules that we do not have the ability to change for the better - and to actively excuse them and ridicule the victimsd and declare them as guilty.

:nope:

Dictatorships are expected to change and archaic theocracies are demanded to reform - but all by nothing, out of the lbue, apparently. And why should that happen, and how, when you excuse them and wave off any challenging to them like you just did? Who shall bring reforms to Islamic societies, if not people like this blogger, and women in general?

Instead we have these meaningless and empty "symbolic acts" to "set a sign" when Muslim communities today in Germany staged demonstration before TV channels and printhouses in a "display of solidarity" with "free opinion". But that is worth nothing as long as they nevertheless hide radicals in their communities, do not refuse Turkish Imams sent to Germany by the Turkish ministry for religion to help "Islamist" and Turkish nationalists agendas, obey parallel justice by Shariah judges in their subcultures and by that erode the ppolice and courts' authority, and insist on that Islam has nothing to do with anything evil, never. We do not need Muslims sdtanding int he street before buildings holding up posterds. We need Muslims that avitevly puish for the beginning of critical self-reflecting inside their own communtiies, in their ideological fundaments, and in the countries their parents' generations had come from. Poster before buildings, that is musical-show only.

Hypocrisy once again at work. On their end - and on yours, too.

[Jeff-Groves]

Hypocrisy once again at work.

Yep. I agree with that. Only not the way you'd expect.
:nope:

[Onkel Neal]

Interestingly, a closer exam of our ally is starting to appear more often

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/18/our-ally-saudi-arabia-beheaded-10-people-this-month.html

[Schroeder]

Interestingly, a closer exam of our ally is starting to appear more often

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/18/our-ally-saudi-arabia-beheaded-10-people-this-month.html
It's no news, we've been seeing it for decades. But we are so desperate for their oil that we'll look the other way while pointing fingers at Russia and China.
Saudi Arabia is pretty much the last country of the world I want to visit, I'd rather go to North Korea.

[Oberon]

We have the technology to stop this, we just don't fund it that much, because the people with the money get it from Saudi Arabia. :03: