Computers now dominate Poker, too

[Skybird]

After Checkers, Backgammon, and practically Chess, another great game has been finally analysed to death and solved by computers: Poker (Heads-Up Hold'em).

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6218/145

http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/ Play it yourself.

Die Entzauberung der Welt. Really that much desirable?

The only of the great games that promises to resist to brute force of computers even for much longer, seems to be Go.

[Betonov]

Chess, checkers, backgammon... still alive and well. Played by millions.
Same with poker. Being analysed to death means nothing to 99% of the existing players.

[Cybermat47]

The only of the great games that promises to resist to brute force of computers even for much longer, seems to be Go.

Never heard of that one :hmmm:

[Betonov]

Never heard of that one :hmmm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29

Sound fun and challenging. Lot less rules like chess.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Go-board-animated.gif

[Skybird]

And a whole quantum leap of variations more than in chess, I think. Extremely difficult for computers to calculate, since the variation tree is extremely wide.

Game play is less dynamic, more static, and thus very different. I never really got deeper into it.

[Betonov]

And a whole quantum leap of variations more than in chess, I think. Extremely difficult for computers to calculate, since the variation tree is extremely wide.



Yep, wiki says:
There is significant strategy involved in the game, and the number of possible games is vast (10^761 compared, for example, to the 10^120 possible in chess), despite its relatively simple rules.Despite ?? It's because it's simple rules. Less rules, more options.

and:
The game complexity of Go is such that describing even elementary strategy fills many introductory books. In fact, numerical estimates show that the number of possible games of Go far exceeds the number of atoms in the observable universe.

[Jimbuna]

Never played 'Go' but have spent many an hour watching people play on street corners and coffee shops whilst in Asia :cool:

[vienna]

There are subset games of Go, one of the most popular is Gomoku. It involves placing 5 Go stones in a row before your opponent can place his 5 in a row. The play is very simple, the game is diabolical. Here is some information about the game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomoku

For those of you who want to have a "go" at the game, here is a link to an online version of the game:

http://gomoku.yjyao.com/


Be forewarned: the game can be frustrating, even at the novice level. It can also be extremely addictive; I have spent many hours playing a flash version I downloaded some time back...


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[u crank]

Be forewarned: the game can be frustrating, even at the novice level. It can also be extremely addictive; I have spent many hours playing a flash version I downloaded some time back...<O>

Dang you Vienna....

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[vienna]

You're very welcome... :D


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