U.S. Links North Korea to Sony Hacking

[vienna]

It seems they have found a "smoking gun":

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/world/asia/us-links-north-korea-to-sony-hacking.html?_r=0

In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq... :D


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[u crank]

In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq... :D

:rotfl2:

Stop smoking that stuff.:O:

[Skybird]

If that evidence shows to be solid. the proper thing to do would be to show the film then - and make it crystal clear to Pyongyang that any hostile Northkorean action, attack or terror strike would inevitably lead to an immediate full scale military retaliation against NK that the regime would not survive.

To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.

[vienna]

Good point on the self-censorship. Another film has apparently bitten the dust:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/17/steve-carell-north-korea-movie_n_6344520.html

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[Onkel Neal]

To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.

Are you kidding? That's totally how America is now.

At least we have gay marriage.

.

[Dread Knot]

If it is true that release of the film has been cancelled I think it's tragic that a totalitarian regime like North Korea can use cyber terrorism to censor the free expression of Western movie makers. It brings to mind the bullying of Salman Rushdie after publication of The Satanic Verses. But although he had to go into hiding, at least the book was published and available. It makes you wonder what gets pulled next by cyber-threat... an unflattering quarterly report? A documentary? An expose?

We should have the freedom to laugh at Kim Jong-un and his ilk on the silver screen. This tradition stretches back to Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator. Or the Warner Brothers and Disney cartoons in the 1940s that lampooned Tojo, Hitler and Mussolini. Those cartoons may not have been politically correct, but those guys hardily deserved PC. Someone stated that the one thing dictators can not abide is being lampooned. Very true and all the more reason why the film should be released. :-?

[August]

What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder?

[Rockstar]

Dare I say it? Nuke'em all! :D

[vanjast]

No man... you lot have it wrong..
NK is the 51st state of the USA and Kim is a puppet put there to create trouble and distract you from other things... like turning the US into an military state so that 'richard-head' cheney and his cronies.. bush.. et al, can take over the world.... tomorrow.
:arrgh!:

[Oberon]

What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder?

I think they ordered a Chinese. :yep:

[Oberon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5H-lQ6CAAMeXuq.jpg

[Dread Knot]

It does make you wonder what the government of Kazakhstan could do with a little effort to Sasha Baron Cohen if he ever decided to reprise the character of Borat.

Kazakhstan greatest hackers in the world. All other countries hack like little girls. :O:

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2007/12/22/va1237283830794/Sacha-Baron-Cohen-as-Borat-Supplied-5812352.jpg

[Catfish]

@Oberon: Surely it was a chinese hacker they paid, probably ate up NK's gross national product for the next 20 years. :yep:

I have always wondered though, how anyone could misunderstand the "Team America" film as being "patriotic". Especially after the veteran explains his patriotic view of the world to "Matt Damon" in the pub, and the resulting vomiting scene.

[Wolferz]

:rotfl2:

Stop smoking that stuff.:O:

Or pass it.:D

[Jimbuna]

Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world.

[Dread Knot]

Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world.

That's the ironic part. A nation with a long history of blistering but mostly empty bluster managed to cow all these theater companies into ignominious retreat. But I guess it would only take one "lone wolf" effort, even a failed one, to cause a nation-wide panic.

It's not hard to worry that the response to The Interview will have a long lasting effect in terms of studios backing politically risky projects. Movie studios are already some of the most risk-averse businesses on Earth, and that's only becoming more and more true with every year. There are studio projects that will never get past the pitch stage, let alone get made if this trend continues.

[Skybird]

Broadcast it via the major TV networks - simultaneously in all states, at the same time!

Northkorea has just scored another intimidation victory over the US: I read the the plan to turn the comic "Pyongyang" into a movie, has been cancelled due to fears about Northkorean retaliation.

Charles Chaplin would cry.

[nikimcbee]

I think it was a cheap trick to get another NoKo thread started at subsim!
https://mile2herald.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kim-jong-un-floppy-disk.jpg

Whose got the most merit badges?
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r209/TurboBob/Military/NorthKoreanMilitaryMedals_zps7714ecd2.jpg
We do!

[Oberon]

Yeah, to be fair the cinemas are looking after their own backsides, the sueing that would take place if some nutter pulled an Aurora on a cinema showing The Interview would be catastrophic for any cinema company.
Still, with any luck it'll come out on DVD, and the Fighters for a Free Korea group can go ahead with their plan to float copies across the Korean border on balloons. :haha:

EDIT: Apparently one Texas cinema has replaced their showing of 'The Interview' with 'Team America', now that's how you do it :D

[Rockstar]

How is this a problem for me, the U.S. governement and We da people? Sony is a Japanese company, the writer and director are Canadian and the film was shot in Vancouver.

I'm sorry but count me out of this arguement.

[Wolferz]

I'd show the film no matter what. The DPRK probably doesn't have enough rice to deliver any significant munitions to this side of the globe.:-?

I'm still surprised that the basketball player didn't knife the buggah when he had the chance.

[Mr Quatro]

another side benefit of hacking Sony and then publishing the information on the internet is to catch the unsuspecting person or persons looking for that information and playing 'tag your it'.

They say they traced the hack to North Korea, but surely not inside of North Korea. The amount of information downloaded through a back door had to have gone undetected for months.

North Korea does not have the resources to even store that much information much less make it public.

They suspect an inside job like the one at the NSA ... gee I wonder where they get such ideas from ...

the movies :yep:

[Wolferz]

another side benefit of hacking Sony and then publishing the information on the internet is to catch the unsuspecting person or persons looking for that information and playing 'tag your it'.

They say they traced the hack to North Korea, but surely not inside of North Korea. The amount of information downloaded through a back door had to have gone undetected for months.

North Korea does not have the resources to even store that much information much less make it public.

They suspect an inside job like the one at the NSA ... gee I wonder where they get such ideas from ...

the movies :yep:

:sign_yeah:

[nikimcbee]

I'd show the film no matter what. The DPRK probably doesn't have enough rice to deliver any significant munitions to this side of the globe.:-?

I'm still surprised that the basketball player didn't knife the buggah when he had the chance.

https://libcom.org/files/images/blog/kim-jong-il.jpg
Rolferz!!!!!!I get youuuuuu!

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/PECd80U.png

[Dread Knot]

EDIT: Apparently one Texas cinema has replaced their showing of 'The Interview' with 'Team America', now that's how you do it :D

The Alamo Drafthouse has since cancelled their planned showing of Team America.

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/movies/article/Alamo-Drafthouse-replaces-The-Interview-with-5965547.php

"Due to circumstances beyond our control, the TEAM AMERICA 12/27 screening has been cancelled. We apologize & will provide refunds today."When even Texas is in full retreat from North Korea can the end be far off? :wah:

Time to pack it in and move to Cuba.

[Dread Knot]

They say they traced the hack to North Korea, but surely not inside of North Korea. The amount of information downloaded through a back door had to have gone undetected for months.

North Korea does not have the resources to even store that much information much less make it public.



I dunno. It looks to me like an attack from North Korea, about as highly advanced as everything else they do. They stand out in the world because they are not venal and duplicitous in the ordinary sense. They have funneled the resources of an entire nation into projects that seem to have no purpose except to project belligerence and seem willing to forfeit every political, diplomatic and economic opportunity for the sake of these projects. They seem to be getting worse, more truculent and daring, as the years go by. I wonder where it will end. I 'm beginning to think a bang is more likely than a whimper.

And let's face it. They have no Seoul. :D

[Oberon]

The Alamo Drafthouse has since cancelled their planned showing of Team America.

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/movies/article/Alamo-Drafthouse-replaces-The-Interview-with-5965547.php

When even Texas is in full retreat from North Korea can the end be far off? :wah:

Time to pack it in and move to Cuba.


Wow...yeah, that's it then...GG America, nextmap. :wah:

http://s3.gamefreaks.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/homefront-20090602044248838.jpg

[Jeff-Groves]

So..........
Who ever did the hacking??

THANK YOU!
You probably saved us from a bunch of really bad movies.

Can you hack the TV stuff now?
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[Buddahaid]

I believe pulling the movie was more about not jeopardizing box office revenues from the other films in the line up. Still, it's a bad precedence which can only get worse and I hate it.

I'd like to see people at large buy Lil Kim masks and put on demonstrations to make him look an even larger fool. The target would then be non-specific for that smelly dung pile.

[Jeff-Groves]

If there ever was a thread where the loose screws should be speaking up?
This has got to be the best to end the year!
:har:

[Rockstar]

How much ya want to bet this movie drama is staged to gain a larger audience. And that within thirty days Sony will announce to the world it will not be pushed around anymore and release the movie.

[Jeff-Groves]

How much ya want to bet this movie drama is staged to gain a larger audience. And that within thirty days Sony will announce to the world it will not be pushed around anymore and release the movie.

Sounds good. But We need Ninjas.
Can the Hackers be Ninja Hackers?
:hmmm:

[Oberon]

Sounds good. But We need Ninjas.
Can the Hackers be Ninja Hackers?
:hmmm:

We could use the next best thing

A Ninja Terminator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kFPa6DUDk

[Rockstar]

If it please the court I would like to draw your attention to exhibit 'A'. Now can we nuke'em?

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa408/jky242/adf2488afb6f5f676d90f1c2f353be61.jpg

[STEED]

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r209/TurboBob/Military/NorthKoreanMilitaryMedals_zps7714ecd2.jpg


Is that NK answer to The Beatles? :hmmm:

[Buddahaid]

Is that NK answer to The Beatles? :hmmm:

We at the DPRK answer to nobody! :stare:

[STEED]

We at the DPRK answer to nobody! :stare:

I take that as a yes. :har:

[Jimbuna]

Gaddafi, Bin Laden and Kim Jong Il have all died in recent years.

Maybe Team America does exist...

[BossMark]

The FBI have now formally accused North Korea of hacking Sony.

The FBI have now apologised and stated that Kim Jong Un is dashing.

[Mr Quatro]

Turn out the lights the party's over Sony ...

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/769/cache/north-korea-lights-space-01_76991_990x742.jpg

[Aktungbby]

The FBI have now formally accused North Korea of hacking Sony.

The FBI have now apologised and stated that Kim Jong Un is dashing.

HE may be dashing... but those two skinny hungry girls are only looking at those two-day-old pastries...and not at 'dear revered fatboy'!:03:http://40.media.tumblr.com/c4b316b293d0646df10224e322583b1f/tumblr_ndh3bx3KVZ1r8asibo1_1280.jpg

[vienna]

The Sony story is the biggest news item here in Hollywood and we are hearing much more than is being reported in the national and worldwide media. It is true Sony and the other studios are very concerned about financial hits due to actual and possible litigation. Sony workers, past and present are already suing Sony over the breach of the employees' personal information stored on Sony servers. Very little of the employee data has been released by the hackers, so it remains in play. Sony seems to have acted out of concern, if the film had been or will be released, the hackers would release the employee data, making the employees collateral damage in the situation. In addition to the employees, there are a very large number of vendors and contractors who would also suffer if the hackers released data on those entities that was also stored on Sony servers. So, it would seem, there are many more potential victims above and beyond the corporation and its executives, crew, and talent...

It is particularly interesting there has been no word from the other studios and their executives in support of Sony or, for that matter, on any aspect of the situation. It is widely speculated here in Hollywood that the other studios had no better and, likely, worse server security than Sony and are very afraid they may also be compromised, if they already haven't; Sony is the one studio known to have been hacked, but the fear is there may be other breaches yet to be revealed...


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[nikimcbee]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/c4b316b293d0646df10224e322583b1f/tumblr_ndh3bx3KVZ1r8asibo1_1280.jpg
"At what point do we tell him those are just wax?"

[nikimcbee]

...one day later.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/16/article-0-1ECE6B3C00000578-473_636x382.jpg
Ah, someone went crazy at the pastry shop!

"Yeah, it happened again. Bring the grease."

[STEED]

On the radio news now..NK we had nothing to do with it and offer a joint investigation with the US. :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

On the radio news now..NK we had nothing to do with it and offer a joint investigation with the US. :hmmm:

Then the band played 'Believe it if you like'.

[STEED]

Then the band played 'Believe it if you like'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kXis7xphc

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkundZvvjQU

[nikimcbee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkundZvvjQU

Nevermind the Gangnam Style, I was gunna find a "Geordie Style" dance video....when I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYta-01f3lg
:hmmm:

[August]

The FBI have now formally accused North Korea of hacking Sony.

The FBI have now apologised and stated that Kim Jong Un is dashing.


http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/1/4/6/6/5/i-see-what-you-did-there.jpg :)

[nikimcbee]

^^:har::up:

[Mr Quatro]

If we can figure out how to make a bad subsim work together ... Proven!

Why can't we figure out this who done it?

I think Sony Corporation may have wanted to spin off the movie partners a long time ago and now they will have a chance to sell the movie production company called Sony pictures in Hollywood, California due to this growing email/hacker/terrorist problem that has been developing for the general public in just the last two weeks, but the problem has been going on for a lot longer than that.

even if Sony didn't have anything to do with access to passwords (stolen from VP???) They can now move forward selling just the entertainment partners and keeping the rest which includes a music industry and of course play station and the TV screen etc business alive and well.

Found this interesting they have been losing money for the last five years.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/15/us-sony-cybersecurity-japan-idUSKBN0JT0L020141215


The Japanese conglomerate is heading for its fifth net loss in six years, raising questions about its ability to hold on to businesses ranging from making television sets to movies. While activist hedge fund investor Daniel Loeb has given up his call for Sony to spin off its entertainment arm, others believe it should exit weak product lines such as TVs.

[BossMark]

On August 30, 2013 Sony Pictures released "One Direction, This Is Us"....

Where the hell were the North Koreans THEN?!?

[STEED]

Those NK news readers must be sitting on spikes to make them sound angry.

[u crank]

On August 30, 2013 Sony Pictures released "One Direction, This Is Us"....

Where the hell were the North Koreans THEN?!?

:har:

:yep:

[Skybird]

Obama has asked China for assistance and cooperation.

:dead:

He surely knows how to give the USA a weak shine. Since all his time in office.

The problem with many "reasonable" people is that they cannot imagine that their reason is not shared by everybody. They think due to their reason being reason, it is irresistable for anyone else.

Not to mention that again he makes the buck the gardener.

[Jimbuna]

Those NK news readers must be sitting on spikes to make them sound angry.

Remind me of voiceovers by the opposite of their gender :)

[Oberon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30584093

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwhB2D1YEc

:har:

[vienna]

Apparently, the North Korean internet outages are continuing, off and on:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/north-korea-internet-service-appears-restored-1419303709

I have this image of Kim Jong Un fuming because his service cut out in the middle of a round of "World of Warcraft" or, more likely, "Comrades Gone Wild"...

It also seems Sony will now release "The Interview" in a few select thaters in the US

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/23/sony_s_the_interview_will_play_limited_release_on_ christmas_day.html

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[eddie]

Its going to be released on Christmas day, in select theaters.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/the-interview-christmas-day-screenings-new-release-1201386144/

[Oberon]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/99PY/meanwhile-in-north-korea/image.jpg

[eddie]

:haha::haha:

[Jimbuna]

http://i.imgur.com/hm3AcKh.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Dang son, that movie was the bomb.

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/XATypIF.jpg

[Wolferz]

http://i.imgur.com/XATypIF.jpg


You no pokey fun at self appointed God.
He hurt you long time by telling you incessantly; "Me hurt you long time!"
:88)

[Skybird]

Na geht doch.

But the disruption of NK internet probably was done in order to prevent the great beloved Führer learning about the film being shown. :D I personally would prefer instead to flood the frequencies and bandwidth in NK with the free transmission of the film, to really rub it deep into the Führer's nostrils. LOL

[Mr Quatro]

Worth reading:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/24/no-north-korea-didn-t-hack-sony.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28T he+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29


whoever wrote the code had extensive knowledge of Sony’s internal architecture and access to key passwords. While it’s (just) plausible that a North Korean elite cyber unit could have built up this knowledge over time and then used it to make the malware, Occam’s razor suggests the simpler explanation of a pissed-off insider. Combine that with the details of several layoffs that Sony was planning and you don’t have to stretch the imagination too far to consider that a disgruntled Sony employee might be at the heart of it all.


I'm still suspicious of who really did the hacking. I know why North Korea would lie, but why would they tell the truth, unless of course it was the truth that they didn't do the dirty work, but was happy with whoever did do it.

[vanjast]

Worth reading:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/24/no-north-korea-didn-t-hack-sony.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28T he+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29

So who do the dumb masses want to believe...

A few knowledgable people casting serious doubt on the claims..
OR
Devious, manipulative polititians and their cronies, with a rap sheet as long as you arm, on supressing, invading, destroying anything that doesn't suite their ideals ?

:har:

[vienna]

Here's an interesting twist on the Sony story I found while browsing:


What is being overshadowed this time is the one thing Pyongyang desperately wants the world to ignore. The United Nations' General Assembly recently voted, by an overwhelming majority of 116 to 20 (with 53 abstentions), to refer North Korea to the International Criminal Court, and the U.N. Security Council met on Monday and voted in favor of adding North Korea's human rights issues to its agenda over the objection of China and Russia. Back in November, ahead of the U.N. vote, North Korea appeared genuinely panicked about the outcome. In the weeks leading up to it, the regime suddenly released the two American detainees, Kenneth Bae and Jeffrey Fowle, probably in hopes of muting the criticism of its human rights abuses.
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/29/7460277/north-korea-sony-icc

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