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Kaptlt.Endrass
12-16-14, 03:04 AM
I don't know if anyone else watches (now watched) this show, but if you did, what's your opinion on the series finale, and the show in general? Do you think the end was slightly underwhelming?

Jimbuna
12-16-14, 08:25 AM
Sailor Steve would be the person to ask that of :cool:

Dowly
12-16-14, 08:49 AM
I never got over the "pretty boy" look of the main character, so only watched three or four episodes. :hmmm:

Sailor Steve
12-16-14, 08:54 AM
With some very well-done exceptions I wasn't overly happy with the entire previous season or this one. Having a major character start acting contrary to their previous nature just so they can set that character up to die was a cop-out in my mind. This entire season was built upon that, so it really felt pre-programmed rather than natural, which of course anything with a script has to be, but the trick is to make it not feel that way. The whole season was building up just for that last episode, and I agree that it was weak.

Herr-Berbunch
12-16-14, 10:47 AM
Overall the series was good, but you've got to ask yourself how many times do you have to piss off black/brown/yellow/Irish/Sheriffs/bent cops/any other and get away with it.

And those Harleys* toward the last few seasons just looked as camp as Christmas to us over this side of the pond. Couple that with Jax wearing specs and looking like Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys just made it laughable.

*I'm aware that this is some kind of trend over there at the moment.

Still watched it avidly though.

Onkel Neal
12-16-14, 02:51 PM
I watched this show through till the end, but really did not like it. The characters were really one-dimensional, the writing was really bad 95% of the time, and like Herr-Berbunch said, there's no way the SOA could have survived all those rivals.

Other things that I did not care for: How many times did Jax and SOA lay out a "plan" to some other group and the other group said "sure, we'll follow you"?

A lot of scenes took place in the Teller garage parking lot. Literally three times ever episode, someone would drive in and someone else would walk over and begin a conversation. And it usually started with "How are you doing/feeling?"
ALSO: a lot of "sweetie" and" Jesus christ!" Everytime something went wrong--SH** ! or Jesus christ! :haha:

The show did not portray LE realistically at all! Come on, the sherrifs were always trying to get the SOA, but they did nothing. I mean, SOA always were armed to the teeth, so why didn't LE simply stop them for some probable cause, search them, find their weapons, and then sentence them to 5 years in the pen? Literally the easiest way to take them off the streets, was never done.

Last, how many times did Jax and crew whip out machine guns and kill unsuspecting rivals during a meeting? Golly.

PS: last, really last comment: way too many guys kissing, hugging, and showing their butts, not enough nekkid women.:hmm2:

Tango589
12-16-14, 03:10 PM
way too many guys kissing, hugging, and showing their butts, not enough nekkid women.:hmm2:

Never saw it, glad I didn't for this very reason.:yep:

Herr-Berbunch
12-16-14, 03:56 PM
PS: last, really last comment: way too many guys kissing, hugging, and showing their butts, not enough nekkid women.:hmm2:

Well that's got to be the best incentive not to break the law and risk prison!!!! :o

Onkel Neal
12-16-14, 05:52 PM
On the plus side, I liked the mystery of the homeless woman popping up every so often. And Sutter did a respectable job ending the series, with Jax painting himself into a corner where his death was the only way out.

Stealhead
12-16-14, 07:27 PM
I lost interest after the second season too much bad writing. I agree with Dowly didn't like the pretty boy attitude of what's his face and his old lady either just too silly of characters. Some things like the SOA chapter being loyal to IRA shocker they should have suspected that come on.

Herr-Berbunch
12-17-14, 02:40 AM
I'm hoping there's going to be a spin-off about Tiggs. :arrgh!:

frau kaleun
12-17-14, 10:47 AM
way too many guys kissing, hugging, and showing their butts

Never saw it, glad I didn't for this very reason.:yep:

Never saw it either, but now I think I might have to. :O:

Tango589
12-17-14, 12:19 PM
way too many guys kissing, hugging, and showing their butts, not enough nekkid women.:hmm2:

Never saw it, glad I didn't for this very reason.:yep:

Never saw it either, but now I think I might have to. :O:

Well, whatever floats your boat...:up:

em2nought
12-17-14, 06:15 PM
I don't like the glorification of bad guys. Sets bad examples for the lower classes to emulate. Besides how do you load a shopping cart full of wic purchases into a Harley? :D

Kaptlt.Endrass
12-17-14, 08:52 PM
Agreed fo the most part. I think, in the real world, the Kings, Chinese, August, etc, would have seen SamCro as the common denominator and done something in retaliation.

And I noticed in the last episode, a bounty of biblical references and non-biblical ones.

For example:
Homeless woman's meal-hobo wine and bread, i.e., Holy Eucharist.
Jax making a martyr of himself to make Charming a better place for his boys--> Jesus dying for our sins.
Homeless woman's cloak & Jax using it to kill Marks--> The reaper's cloak (look at the 'face-to-face' shot of Jax on the courtyard steps just prior to Marks's death)

Also, the final shot of the series, two crows eating a piece of bread, is the same as the opening shot for the series. The trucker that Jax hits is the same that took Gemma to Oregon, and his employer, 'Papa's Goods', is the episode's name.

Kaptlt.Endrass
12-17-14, 08:57 PM
I'm hoping there's going to be a spin-off about Tiggs. :arrgh!:

There could also be one for Chibs and\or Abel.

August
12-17-14, 10:50 PM
I don't like the glorification of bad guys.

Me either.

August
12-17-14, 10:52 PM
Agreed fo the most part. I think, in the real world, the Kings, Chinese, August, etc, would have seen SamCro as the common denominator and done something in retaliation.

Yep, can't get nothing by me and the Chinese... :yep: :D

em2nought
12-17-14, 11:14 PM
...and besides Jimmy Smits will always be Andy Sipowicz' partner to me. :Dhttp://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608039950714079471&pid=15.1

Sailor Steve
12-18-14, 08:02 AM
Johnny-come-lately. :O:

I stopped watching NYPD Blue after the first season, but I liked Smits in L.A. Law, which came first. He was one of the most enjoyable things about the last two seasons of SOA, just as he was in the season he did of Dexter. A fine actor.