STAR WARS 7

[STEED]

Well the teaser trailer is out so lets get voting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE

Watch first then vote.

[Wolferz]

Meh! :roll:

[STEED]

Don't know about the new dodgy lightsaber look. :hmmm:

[Schroeder]

Not enough input to form an opinion. But after the disasters that the prequels where it can't get much worse and it will be cool to see the old crew again (hopefully...).

[nikimcbee]

Still early though. Do we know much about the storyline yet?

Steed, since you're in the UK, if you could drop by the set with a camera, that would be great.:up: Just remember to NOT wear the Klingon outfit this time, you'll give yourself away.:know:

[STEED]

Still early though. Do we know much about the storyline yet?

Steed, since you're in the UK, if you could drop by the set with a camera, that would be great.:up: Just remember to NOT wear the Klingon outfit this time, you'll give yourself away.:know:

OK...so this should be alright.

http://www.sector001.com/species/romulan.jpg

[STEED]

Oct 4th 2014

Star Wars 7 spoilers leaked: Major plot details of JJ Abrams Disney reboot could destroy whole film
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/star-wars-7-spoilers-leaked-4378043

[Rhodes]

Don't know about the new dodgy lightsaber look. :hmmm:

Yes, when I saw it I :huh::-?. So lightsabers now have light cross-guards??!! So the samurai based weapon went to medieval european style now?

Enfim...

[nikimcbee]

First monster footage leaked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjighCDPt-k

Found a costume for you Steed.:up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4ODCKlXUY

[Oberon]

OK...so this should be alright.

http://www.sector001.com/species/romulan.jpg

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/070/424/cake.gif

[Wolferz]

First monster footage leaked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjighCDPt-k

Found a costume for you Steed.:up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4ODCKlXUY

One brave little Wampa for using a Garthog as a handler.:up::O:

[Nippelspanner]

At first I thought it is a parody/fake teaser. :doh:

When I saw the light saber ignite, I just wished it would be a parody.
What a useless, impractical design that just yells:
"Quick, we need something new in the lightsaber department, any ideas??!"
"Yeah, why not give it a cross guard like medieval swords have, oh and make it look like a flaming sword, not just a laser...oh and make it orange, red isn't cool right now!"
"Awesome, let's ruin err do it! So kewl!"

Go home Abrams, you're drunk. :nope:
I bet SW8 will have a "rainbow" blade and/or a silver/black core lightsaber.
And yes, lightsaber design/appearance in SW IS important. Absolutely.

*sigh*

[Oberon]

Welcome to the club Nippelspanner, now the Star Wars fans are getting a taste of what he did to Trek. :salute:

[Rhodes]

Welcome to the club Nippelspanner, now the Star Wars fans are getting a taste of what he did to Trek. :salute:

They also have to suffer as we did!

[Schroeder]

They also have to suffer as we did!
Problem is some of us will suffer twice now!

[razark]

My expectations went way down with the Millennium Falcon "look what we can do with camera angles" thing.


Edit:
So, Episode III was set 19 years before Episode IV, and Episode VII is set 30 years after Episode VI.
In the less than two decades the Empire was in power, the technology increased, and we saw different ships being used in the two eras.
In the three decades since the fall of the Empire, technology seems to have stagnated, and we're seeing the same X-Wings, TIE Fighters, and YT-1300 as before.

Wow. The New Republic really didn't have their stuff together.

[Nippelspanner]

http://i.minus.com/iVYC5SKIm8s1Q.gif

[Rhodes]

^:har::har::har::up:

[Platapus]

After what he did to Star Trek, I won't give Jar Jar Abrams a dime. :nope:

[Schroeder]

My expectations went way down with the Millennium Falcon "look what we can do with camera angles" thing.


Edit:
So, Episode III was set 19 years before Episode IV, and Episode VII is set 30 years after Episode VI.
In the less than two decades the Empire was in power, the technology increased, and we saw different ships being used in the two eras.
In the three decades since the fall of the Empire, technology seems to have stagnated, and we're seeing the same X-Wings, TIE Fighters, and YT-1300 as before.

Wow. The New Republic really didn't have their stuff together.
Well, the X-Wings were brand new in Episode IV I believe and if you compare that to the real world it's not that far fetched as the F15 and F16 have been around for an equally long time.

[d@rk51d3]

Something fishy about that stormtrooper...........:hmm2:

Oh yeah, He ain't a clone. (maybe he's another character that's pinched a suit for a disguise)

And as for the new lightsabre.............
Arise, Lord Lancelot. :haha:

[Oberon]

Well, the X-Wings were brand new in Episode IV I believe and if you compare that to the real world it's not that far fetched as the F15 and F16 have been around for an equally long time.

Plus the fall of the Empire (assuming it has fallen and not just retreated and restructured under a smaller amount of worlds) is going to have been a bit like the fall of the Roman Empire, mass chaos and disorder without a strong central government to control hundreds of worlds.
Technology is not going to advance that far until some sense of order has been restored enough.

This is all just guess work, of course, I'm not really clued up on the EU of Star Wars but I know that the Galactic Empire was a colossal entity, so something that big collapsing would cause a massive vacuum (pardon the pun).

[Otto Harkaman]

Disney is the "Evil" empire! muahahahahaha

http://www.bewareofimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/vader2.jpg

[Red October1984]

Don't know about the new dodgy lightsaber look. :hmmm:

Other than that, i'm willing to keep an open mind. I honestly think that I will go see it regardless.

Disney is the "Evil" empire! muahahahahaha


According to Deadmau5 and his fans.... :03:

[Otto Harkaman]

According to Deadmau5 and his fans.... :03:

http://www.mixmag.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/article/images/dmau5-Dan-Monick.jpg

:yeah:

[Otto Harkaman]

The Force will awaken...and a hero will arise...

http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/403/325/004/Donald.jpg

[Otto Harkaman]

no frankly the trailer looked awful, what's up with all the long fade to black parts, 88 second trailer with 80 seconds of black :down:

The Void (http://youtu.be/lkTnSN1uuTQ)

[ikalugin]

I think he stole the sword concept from Bleach.

[STEED]

Plus the fall of the Empire (assuming it has fallen and not just retreated and restructured under a smaller amount of worlds) is going to have been a bit like the fall of the Roman Empire, mass chaos and disorder without a strong central government to control hundreds of worlds.
Technology is not going to advance that far until some sense of order has been restored enough.

This is all just guess work, of course, I'm not really clued up on the EU of Star Wars but I know that the Galactic Empire was a colossal entity, so something that big collapsing would cause a massive vacuum (pardon the pun).

Taking it from BLAKES7 view...Whats that? This...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlSgxLE5ydk

The bad guys were the Terran Federation who used drug control and their military space fleet to expand and put down resistance, the odd massacre as well. Any how by the end of series two the Terran Federation was at war with a invading alien force, start of series three we learn the Federation won but at a heavy cost causing the empire to shrink as they rebuilt their fleet. By the start of series four we learn the Federation has created a new drug that turns people into dodo's and we must assume the Federation was on the rise again.

So I think Oberon could be on the money in SW world. :03:

[Oberon]

Now all we need is Servalan and we're on to a winner! :haha: :03:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/1b7000e463af6bad4f29ba4f2d80a473597dbf8d.jpg

[Skybird]

Impossible to judge something on the grounds of nothing.

[Jimbuna]

Impossible to judge something on the grounds of nothing.

Agreed and can't believe I actually voted.

The cast must be so old they'll be using light sabre crutches and walking sticks to get around.

[Betonov]

I understood the poll as how we like the trailer.
I like the trailer :03:

I'm lucky enough not to be a fan. Enjoyed the original trilogy, enjoyed the prequels (Episode I was a bit boring though) and enjoyed the Star Trek reboot.

They're entertaining movies. That's what movies should be

[Wolferz]

Han will probably return to the berth on Mos Eisley and find the Fallcon up on blocks.
Trade it to that Toydarian junk dealer for a couple of slaves. One of them could end up being the chosen one.
No, not chosen to balance the force. Chosen to stick a light saber in Disney's purchase of the franchise.

I think they'd have been better off getting Joss Whedon instead of
Me'sa gonna mess it up Jar Jar Abrams.

Greedo Lucas is laughing all the way to the bank.

[Bilge_Rat]

the trailer looks good, I especially like the X-wing fighters.

As to the movie, I will reserve judgment until it comes out.

[Wolferz]

the trailer looks good, I especially like the X-wing fighters.

As to the movie, I will reserve judgment until it comes out.

Before or after your money is in their pocket?

[Otto Harkaman]

Too bad they didn't make Brian Daley's Han Solo trilogy into movies.

http://emerdelac.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/solotrilogy.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures

[Oberon]

I think they could do worse than to incorporate parts of the EU into it, (no, Skybird, not that EU, calm down), from what I've skim read it's got some merit to it.

[Nippelspanner]

http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a5NzwOq_700b.jpg

[Schroeder]

^:har:

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/2l4IvPw.jpg
"May the force be with you."
"And you."

[Raptor1]

I think they could do worse than to incorporate parts of the EU into it, (no, Skybird, not that EU, calm down), from what I've skim read it's got some merit to it.

I expect there to be EU references tied into this, despite the EU having been recently expelled into discontinuity, but probably not anything major. I think a reworking of the Thrawn trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology could have made an excellent sequel trilogy, but that wasn't going to ever happen anyway.

I'm not particularly excited by J. J. Abrams involvement in this. I'm not a major Star Trek fan so I don't have much of the rage that that group has against him, but I rather dislike most of his work that I've seen. Regardless, I'm going to try judging this thing by its own merits, however little of those I expect it to have.

[Oberon]

From what little I have heard of Thrawn, he would make a good basis of a film series. :yep:

[STEED]

Now all we need is Servalan and we're on to a winner! :haha: :03:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/1b7000e463af6bad4f29ba4f2d80a473597dbf8d.jpg

Hubba hubba. :DL

[STEED]

That new dodgy lightsaber should come with a health warning user beware of burning parts of your body off with those side bits. Mind you the dark side took a beating maybe they have taken up smoking from the stress their under, those side sabers handy for lighting up a smoke.

[Schroeder]

Mind you the dark side took a beating maybe they have taken up smoking from the stress their under, those side sabers handy for lighting up a smoke.
You need at least a joint to come up with a design like that. Regular smokes wouldn't cloud your judgment enough.:-?

[STEED]

^:har:

[Jimbuna]

http://s16.postimg.org/4bbzkkllh/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[STEED]

^Who the heck are those kids and what are they doing out of school?

[Jimbuna]

^Who the heck are those kids and what are they doing out of school?

Justin Bieber Selena Gomez and Zac Efron

[Gargamel]

I could taste the popcorn!

[STEED]

Justin Bieber Selena Gomez and Zac Efron

What the hell do they think they are doing with those guns! Dose S019 know about this?

[Otto Harkaman]

^x5 Scary to think about but that might be a success at the box office :88)

[HunterICX]

Already underway the George Lucas' Special Edition!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng

[Oberon]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/cf6f411a215f705e08d78a6f96739137/tumblr_nfu9sbOFKE1qewacoo1_500.gif

[STEED]

^No respectable Sith should be without one. :har:

[Rockstar]

Swiss Army Knife, Sith Army Knife. I see the connection now.

[Rhodes]

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1492/8777/original.jpg?w=600&h

[Betonov]

Butter knife, check

http://radbot.net/pix/2185.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ttzWuaPGMo

[Bilge_Rat]

Interesting discussion, but I am sure we all realise we are not the target audience for this movie.

Even the original trilogy was light and frothy entertainment aimed at young adults. This movie will be aimed squarely at children/tweens/teens like the three "prequels".

Hollywood does not make movies aimed at adults anymore, certainly not big budget movies.

[Oberon]

On a slightly more hopeful (A New Hope?) note, this has been spotted:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/ae602382a965dd048d31541f5de6f272/tumblr_inline_nftkxvAITO1qz953u.jpg

The Millenium Falcon has a new 'satellite dish', but why is this, you might ask? Well, ask Lando.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/2963c8cfdb5c8333f65432bb70b25fc1/tumblr_inline_nftl2xVDXT1qz953u.gif

Good attention to detail there... :yep:

[Rhodes]

^ Yes, round satellite dish antennas are so 1970s! :D

Nice spotted, from what I read it in commentaries, some were mocking that after 30 years, the Falcon still haven't replaced the antenna, but they were wrong after all!

[Otto Harkaman]

Star Wars Episode 7 - Something like this please JJ! (http://youtu.be/lqdqFsXXuKA)

[STEED]

Hollywood does not make movies aimed at adults anymore, certainly not big budget movies.

I'm feeling my age. :/\\!!

[Nippelspanner]

Hollywood does not make movies aimed at adults anymore, certainly not big budget movies.
Perfect!
Did you check the list of highest budget movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_films)?
I can live without the very most of them.
Or would you miss Bayformers?
Space Pocahont... err "Avatar"?
Man in Black 3?
Maybe Pirates of the Carribean?

If this teaches one thing, it is high budget =/= good movie.
It implies the opposite actually...

Yes yes, "a matter of taste"... no!
There are good movies, there are bad movies.
You may like a bad movie - but that doesn't make it good from any point of view. I wish 90% of the IMDb users would realize that before rating Bayformers or bullcrap like Fury 10/10 :/\\!!

We all have our guilty pleasures. Enjoy them, please. But stay real, yes?
(not directed to you/anyone in particular, just random ranting...)

[AndreasT]

Episode One was crap, Episode two was worse, Episode Three I will never see. They let the galaxy get sucked in by a black hole. Nah, they destroyed my boyhood illusion. Drag them out on the street at midnight and shoot them. With the Hobbit please.

[swamprat69er]

I will wait for the DVD.

[Oberon]

Drag them out on the street at midnight and shoot them. With the Hobbit please.

Semi-automatic or bolt action hobbit?

[Dowly]

I quite liked the trailer. Of course, trailers can be horribly misleading, but apart
for the cutesy "soccerball" robot, I can't complain. I even kinda liked the new lightsaber.

I mean, come on, the design can be explained away easily, if they so choose.
Maybe it is an old, unique saber or something. At any rate, doesnt bother me too much.

Also, didn't see a single lens flare! :woot:

[nikimcbee]

Hopefully, it can remain Jar-Jar free.:-?

[Schroeder]

Semi-automatic or bolt action hobbit?
Dude, in these days you've got to go full auto Hobbit.:rock:

[AndreasT]

The new Star Wars characters have no character. At least Episode 1-3. Maybe 7 will be better. There is no dude like Han Solo in those films. Too much digital. Look at those old films like Jason and the Argonauts, the skeleton fight. That looks more realistic than the digital stuff nowadays. I have the strange feeling I mentioned this somewhere else before.

[Platapus]

I will wait for the DVD.

Me too... and then not get it. :D

[Schroeder]

and then not get it. :D
Well if you don't get it you'll need someone to explain it to you.:D

[Platapus]

Well if you don't get it you'll need someone to explain it to you.:D

I am sure there will be no shortage of people telling me how much it sucks. And best of all, I will still have the admission price still in my pocket. :up:

[Wolferz]

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/star-wars-episode-7.jpg

Ha HA! Deal with it Pluto. The new rides at Disney parks will more than pay for the costs of buying this franchise.

[nikimcbee]

Update, just for Steed:

Disney says "No thanks" to Lucas.:har::yeah:
http://deadline.com/2015/01/george-lucas-star-wars-ideas-not-used-disney-1201354673/

[Dowly]

Poor George's ego must be in shambles. :haha:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Disney says "No thanks" to Lucas.:har::yeah:
http://deadline.com/2015/01/george-lucas-star-wars-ideas-not-used-disney-1201354673/

:yeah:

[nikimcbee]

So if this new one is good, I vote, they let him(Abrams) go back and remake episodes I-III.:up:
I would pay money to see George's face when he gets the letter.

[ReallyDedPoet]

So if this new one is good, I vote, they let him(Abrams) go back and remake episodes I-III.:up:
I would pay money to see George's face when he gets the letter.

Ditto :up::up:

[nikimcbee]

Just for Steed:
Newest trailer:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/16/star-wars-force-awakens-new-trailer

[Nippelspanner]

Now THIS trailer was good! :)

[Rhodes]

Now THIS trailer was good! :)
Indeed!

Now, lets get debatable:

The rumour of this new SW film, that got me thing was: Han dies on this movie, saving or buying time for the rest of the cast (new or/and old) to escape - scenes of the millennium falcon in the first teaser trailer.
When talking with a friend of mine, he has the same opinion, only if it is made good and so the new cast - the younger heroes would step in in full for the rest of the trilogy. On the other hand, if done badly it will ruin the new trilogy for many people!
One in favour is the old age of the former cast and their will to continue in SW roles.
And what do you think?

[Schroeder]

I think I will watch it. Even if it's just to see the old cast again. Can't be worse than the prequels. Besides I haven't been in a cinema since Terminator III.:o

[Nippelspanner]

Indeed!

Now, lets get debatable:

The rumour of this new SW film, that got me thing was: Han dies on this movie, saving or buying time for the rest of the cast (new or/and old) to escape - scenes of the millennium falcon in the first teaser trailer.
When talking with a friend of mine, he has the same opinion, only if it is made good and so the new cast - the younger heroes would step in in full for the rest of the trilogy. On the other hand, if done badly it will ruin the new trilogy for many people!
One in favour is the old age of the former cast and their will to continue in SW roles.
And what do you think?
Well, thanks for the 'spoiler' alert. :O:
Unfortunately in these kind of movies, some good guys have to die, the whole sacrifice-thing is a must in cinema (which I don't agree on mostly, cause over-used) but Han dying sounds plausible to me. Then again, I know nuthin' about SW7 yet and just tell myself that it can hardly get worse than E1-3!

[nikimcbee]

Get Steed and put him in a gyrocopter to flyover the movie set.:up:

[Wolferz]

Or just a well timed blaster shot?

When Walt first opened Disneyland, George was there on opening day.:haha:
When it comes to skullduggery...

We Bilge Rats got nuthin' on the MOUSE.

[Betonov]

https://scontent-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/994135_10153240745483205_7384871928761523924_n.jpg ?oh=cb61f6d1c1b447c9b8e2b70fcd799784&oe=55A06592

[HunterICX]

Kinda choked up when I heard Han Solo say ''We're home'' :D

[Oberon]

pic

That is very nice, as opening vistas go. The whole 'Ruins of the Empire' style is good, I like that, and I also like the Storm Troopers and TIE Fighters. The shakey cam, as I discussed briefly with Raptor last night, is a bit of a concern. Abrams had a habit in the Trek films of making battles too fast and shakey, making it hard to actually see what's going on.
Was nice to see Chewie again though. :up:

[Nippelspanner]

Man, at least he got rid of the lens-flare over use (https://youtu.be/OTfBH-XFdSc?t=2m54s) he practiced in Star Trek (2009)!

[Jimbuna]

I think I will watch it. Even if it's just to see the old cast again. Can't be worse than the prequels. Besides I haven't been in a cinema since Terminator III.:o

Same here but not at a cinema.

[STEED]

Not bad but like all trailers they are designed to pull you in. Will I see it on the big screen probably not.



SIDE NOTE
I saw the second new Terminator trailer and still feel no I'm not falling for it.

[ReallyDedPoet]

After the prequels this is a win all the way :yep:

Forget about the visuals, not having Lucas direct or write for this is a
huge bonus......

[STEED]

The great film critic Adolf Hitler...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyMPdKNqtFg

I don't know about you guys but Hitler is spot on about the new dodgy lightsaber. :har:

[Oberon]

Just spotted this on tumblr, from a quote from someone on facebook regarding the new Star Wars:

“If he messes this up we get to call the dude JarJar Abrams for the rest of his life.”

[ReallyDedPoet]

Just spotted this on tumblr, from a quote from someone on facebook regarding the new Star Wars:

“If he messes this up we get to call the dude JarJar Abrams for the rest of his life.”

:D:D:up:

[nikimcbee]

Speaking of Star Wars, last week, I was in Seattle and went to their EMP museum. They have a great exhibit of Star Wars costumes.

http://www.empmuseum.org/at-the-museum/current-exhibits/star-wars%E2%84%A2-and-the-power-of-costume.aspx

Funny thing, not one mention of Jar Jar.:har:

[STEED]

NEW TRAILER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

[Falkirion]

For anyone that's watched the latest trailer. Are there any huge story/scene spoilers that you wish you hadn't seen?

[Rhodes]

No, this trailer finally made me change the felling that the movie would be terrible to is going to be soooo good!
What I can say is: in the dialogue of Rey and H. Solo characters, is giving the idea of that what happend in the OT fallen to legends realm.
And for me, that raises questions, hopefully answered in the film. Now is just wait!

[Nippelspanner]

Right now it really seems as if this movie could be a really good "Star Wars experience".
I will wait for final results and not everything shown in the trailer is perfect in my opinion.

What struck me most was the vastly different soundtrack. Yeah sure, same melody/notes - but you can hear it isn't Williams anymore. A matter of taste for sure, but I prefer Williams style over what I heard so far - nothing that would harm the overall product though, just something I noticed.

Oh and that silly robot with the floating head?
I hate it. :hmph:

[Dowly]

What struck me most was the vastly different soundtrack. Yeah sure, same melody/notes - but you can hear it isn't Williams anymore. A matter of taste for sure, but I prefer Williams style over what I heard so far - nothing that would harm the overall product though, just something I noticed.
Williams is the composer. :O:

[Nippelspanner]

Williams is the composer. :O:
What the...what. I... what now?

Besides feeling stupid now, I feel also very confused. :hmmm:

[Falkirion]

What the...what. I... what now?

Besides feeling stupid now, I feel also very confused. :hmmm:
Yeah mate. It's all Williams, maybe he's just doing something differently from the OT/PT and creating a new unique sound for whatever this trilogy will land up being called. It's Han and Leia's theme, just played in a much different key. A lot lower than normal that's for sure

I caved and watched the latest trailer, worth it. Worth every damn second.

[Betonov]

Told my SW fan friend, that when he decides to see Force awakens, he should count me in.

And he comes up with pre-premiere tickets :doh:
I will be one of the first, if not THE first subsimer so see it :03:

[Nippelspanner]

Told my SW fan friend, that when he decides to see Force awakens, he should count me in.

And he comes up with pre-premiere tickets :doh:
I will be one of the first, if not THE first subsimer so see it :03:
I hate you. A little bit.

[Betonov]

I hate you. A little bit.

Don't.
I'm actually slightly annoyed because the theater is booked full and I hate crowds :shifty:
But he booked the tickets before I could say no.

[Nippelspanner]

Don't.
I'm actually slightly annoyed because the theater is booked full and I hate crowds :shifty:
But he booked the tickets before I could say no.
Yeah. You poor guy.
Gotta see Star Wars 7 before everyone else and there will be people around... :haha:

When will you see it?

[Betonov]

When will you see it?

December 16th, 23:59

[Nippelspanner]

Nice, let us know how it was!

[Betonov]

I'll take the 17th off work so I'll write a review as soon as I get back from the cinema. Which will be in the middle of the night

[Wolferz]

NO SPOILERS!!!

[STEED]

I'll take the 17th off work so I'll write a review as soon as I get back from the cinema. Which will be in the middle of the night

I want a full report on my desktop no latter than 24 hours after you seen it.

[Oberon]

Sea Wars: The Ike Awakens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EypzUduBqiQ

[STEED]

Short TV trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqcMo4XYU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZUYf-4wiA

[BrucePartington]

NO SPOILERS!!!
:haha: my thought exactly.

[Platapus]

This one couple I know just told me that they are buying blocks of tickets on separate days to see this movie. Oh well, their money, their decision.

But what is annoying is that they are trying to manipulate me in to seeing the movie. I really have no desire to see this movie and even getting free tickets does not change that.

I am sure they will have other friends that would like to see it and those are the people they should ask.

Unfortunately, I fear that it will become a personal matter where they will be "offended" if I don't submit to their manipulation. Just one more reasons I prefer dogs. :up:

I am sure this will be financially a successful movie and that thousands of people will enjoy it. More power to them and the best of luck to them.

I did not like where the series went with the last three movies (prequel) I assume that the similar type of story telling will be used in the next movies (it is evidently what the public wants so you can't blame the studio). Additionally, I have complete confidence that Jar Jar Abrams will mess this up badly.

If I want to watch Starwars, I will watch the original three. :yep:

[nikimcbee]

Well Steed, you got all of your new SW merchandise yet, awaiting the big day?:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Well Steed, you got all of your new SW merchandise yet, awaiting the big day?:hmmm:

Here is a sneek preview of him in his latest stormtrooper costume :)

http://i.imgur.com/xaY2RdD.jpg

[nikimcbee]

Here is a sneek preview of him in his latest stormtrooper costume :)

http://i.imgur.com/xaY2RdD.jpg

True that. I remember when Steed went through his Star Trek phase:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41snoYKRVxL._AC_UL320_SR232,320_.jpg

[nikimcbee]

I suspect "Darth Steed" will return.
http://www.funnyflatfaces.com/bulldog-darth-vader.jpg

[Betonov]

Just one more week :D

[nikimcbee]

...at Camp Steed, the troops await the move orders.
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/10/46/51/2255435/7/920x920.jpg

How long have you been camped out, the last three months? I figured you could use some supplies, whilst you wait for the big moment. Need a pint and some fish-n-chips? Curried spam sandwich? Supply convoy on its way.


http://s1.thcdn.com/productimg/600/600/10979749-1264346963464887.jpg


...hanging out for the big moment.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/thumb/1205/thats-right-dog-swing-bothways-demotivational-posters-1336538204.jpg

[STEED]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/323cf33c4812f303279a5d9fb0987710/tumblr_n3fls6Ed691reatkto1_500.jpg

Better look smart for 1st class row no riff raff. :)

[nikimcbee]

Steed, have you seen the Chinese trailer yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYgD7zylrE


I ordered you some curried orange chicken.:yeah:
Enjoy.

[STEED]

Steed, have you seen the Chinese trailer yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYgD7zylrE


I ordered you some curried orange chicken.:yeah:
Enjoy.

Nice. :up:

[nikimcbee]

I'm trying to remember the hype for that first SW film (the heretical episode I:shifty:) I just remember Darth Maul, but not much else...pod races?

[Betonov]

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12316675_1427522247277224_5773161656862645974_n.jp g?oh=18bb9515ccb7d454125b5049a7480ec6&oe=56E06DE6

[nikimcbee]

http://img.memecdn.com/scumbag-stormtroopers_o_515879.jpg

http://d2ws0xxnnorfdo.cloudfront.net/meme/34157

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/first-world-storm-trooper-problems.jpg

Poor Steed.

[nikimcbee]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/b7/fa/74b7fa5a8758947edb72f3c3759097df.jpg

[Betonov]

http://img.memecdn.com/scumbag-stormtroopers_o_515879.jpg







Storm troopers were not clones, they were conscripts from the Empires population :O:

[nikimcbee]

Bad luck Steed.

Waits three months outside theater for new Star Wars.
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/178c1b1317db931e055a45978fcb74b31e3076314841017608 5630364c91b388_1.jpg

Theater plays Phantom Menace.

[nikimcbee]

Bad luck Betonov:

Gets tickets to see Star Wars premier
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/62225349.jpg
Star Wars Disney on ice.

[Dowly]

The Phantom Menace trailer in the style of Force Awakens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-1csXSwSY

Looks quite good when you put it that way, doesn't it. :)

[nikimcbee]

The Phantom Menace trailer in the style of Force Awakens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-1csXSwSY

Looks quite good when you put it that way, doesn't it. :)
:up: I miss Darth Maul.

Notice, Jar Jar never speaks.:hmmm::haha:

I'm just trying to pick my memory for all the pre-movie hype for TPM.

[Rhodes]

The Phantom Menace trailer in the style of Force Awakens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-1csXSwSY

Looks quite good when you put it that way, doesn't it. :)

Damn, the movie looks great like that!

[Cybermat47]

:up: I miss Darth Maul.

Well, he hasn't died (I know he got chopped in half and fell into a bottomless pit, but he's better now), so who knows, perhaps we'll see him in the rumoured Obi-Wan anthology movie/s. I'd certainly like to see what happened to him after the Clone Wars.

http://www.buzzfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/darth-maul-rematch.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137054/3971942-star-wars---darth-maul---son-of-dathomir-002-(2014)-(digital)-(fawkes-empire)-021.jpg

[Nippelspanner]

The Phantom Menace trailer in the style of Force Awakens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-1csXSwSY

Looks quite good when you put it that way, doesn't it. :)
Holy crap that gave me goose bumps... now I'm confused.
This trailer makes E1 appear so, SO good.
And then the memories kick in...

[Highbury]

The Phantom Menace trailer in the style of Force Awakens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-1csXSwSY

Looks quite good when you put it that way, doesn't it. :)

It looks disturbingly good when you put it that way..:doh:

[Stealhead]

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12316675_1427522247277224_5773161656862645974_n.jp g?oh=18bb9515ccb7d454125b5049a7480ec6&oe=56E06DE6

:haha:

[nikimcbee]

Just for Steed!
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-prequels-fan-edit/

The removed cheese was sent to Steed's flat.:haha:

[nikimcbee]

Please jeebus, let there be no comic relief characters.

[ikalugin]

December 16th, 23:59
I am going on 15th, 2000 Moscow time. I might miss it though due to my part time work stuff.

Normal screenings begin on 16th, at 0010 or 0005 depending on the cinema.

[nikimcbee]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8gGtfvLV--/i3ean52izhffayf0vn3x.jpg

[nikimcbee]

http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/16/42/76/55/porkin10.jpg

Almost there!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1424924/star-wars-porkins-o-s.gif

[STEED]

I will have to wait another six months for it to come out on DVD. No way I'm paying near on £15 to watch the film on top of a bus fair of £7 and all those screaming kids no way! Cheaper for me to wait.

[ikalugin]

I will have to wait another six months for it to come out on DVD. No way I'm paying near on £15 to watch the film on top of a bus fair of £7 and all those screaming kids no way! Cheaper for me to wait.
My tickets are free, I also get free popcorn and soft drinks :)

[mapuc]

I will have to wait another six months for it to come out on DVD. No way I'm paying near on £15 to watch the film on top of a bus fair of £7 and all those screaming kids no way! Cheaper for me to wait.

Same here, Wait for its release on Blue-Ray. however my problems are in the medical section.

Markus

[Betonov]

SPOILER !!!!

http://i.imgur.com/7xc3hat.jpg

[STEED]

:har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har:

[Nippelspanner]

The longer you guys wait to see it, the more danger you will face of being spoiled, depending on where you roam in the internet and how sensitive your colleagues and friends are.

I might see it in the cinema just to avoid that, otherwise I'd rather wait too, cinemas aren't fun anymore. Ridiculously expensive, unable to bring own drinks and snacks, buying it there forces you into debt instantly and then you have all the retards with their effing smartphones lighting up their faces all the time.

I used to love going to the cinema. Now... I hate it.
Correction: I hate the people, not the cinema :D

[ikalugin]

It was bad. If you like 4/5/6 and dislike 1/2/3, don't go.

[Nippelspanner]

It was bad. If you like 4/5/6 and dislike 1/2/3, don't go.
Are you series?
And what are you referring to? Art of story telling, bad story/unbelievable story? Bad acting?

Can you spoil me in regards of the "goofiness"? I HATE "goofy" things, so... I'd actually like a spoiler there - maybe via PM or at least hidden in a spoiler tag just to be sure. :D

[Dowly]

It was bad. If you like 4/5/6 and dislike 1/2/3, don't go.
Let me guess: They tried to make it too serious/edgy?
(Got that kind of vibe from the trailers)

[STEED]

The longer you guys wait to see it, the more danger you will face of being spoiled

Don't bother me, if from now to six months time the :down: out way the :up: by a big majority then I will wait another three odd years before it hits the TV screens.



It was bad. If you like 4/5/6 and dislike 1/2/3, don't go.

1 was bloody awful 2 was awful 3 was better than 1 and 2.

4 was stonking great and 5 was good and 6 not bad could have been better without the teddy bears.


Well give us a full review after you had a think. :)

[Oberon]

Well, while you wait, here's a re-edited version of 1, 2, and 3 to try and remove some of the cheese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfQBdRcgizc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDlT59hqqtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tMHjDkKLA

[nikimcbee]

SPOILER !!!!

http://i.imgur.com/7xc3hat.jpg


:har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har: :har:

Make sure you clean up the pee stains after that spoiler false alarm.

I will have to wait another six months for it to come out on DVD. No way I'm paying near on £15 to watch the film on top of a bus fair of £7 and all those screaming kids no way! Cheaper for me to wait.

Don't worry Steed, I'll take care of you. I'll ring you on the phone and tell you what's going on in the movie.

[ikalugin]

Well, my view is that:
- it was youth orientated. the dark dragoon is now an emo kid, who is worse than anakin. the poor black guy has "wtf is happening" face throught the film and I could understand him.
- story is bad and tried to mimic the 4th episode in many respects.
- old characters were showcased. like - look this is much han solo, so wow.

[STEED]

Well, my view is that:
- it was youth orientated. the dark dragoon is now an emo kid, who is worse than anakin. the poor black guy has "wtf is happening" face throught the film and I could understand him.
- story is bad and tried to mimic the 4th episode in many respects.
- old characters were showcased. like - look this is much han solo, so wow.

Films critics here are giving it a massive thumbs up and those against are few in number. I am left wondering how many are wearing....

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/05/tmpphpjb3pc2-rose-tinted-glasses.jpg

[Betonov]

The squad is picking me up in 20min and off to the theater we go.

Rewiew when I come back. But I must warn you, I'm a casual fan.

[STEED]

The squad is picking me up in 20min and off to the theater we go.

Rewiew when I come back. But I must warn you, I'm a casual fan.

Don't worry about that just post your views when you get back.

Beer and pop corn. :)

[mapuc]

Even here in Denmark and Sweden, the people on the street who have been interviewed by the news are "WOW-a new Star Wars movie,even-if-I-haven't-seen-it-it-is-the-best-movie"

Makes one wonder, if they are quoting one of their idol, who have said positive things about the new Star Wars.

There were of course people with their feet on the ground.

Markus

[Rhodes]

A review/critic here says that the film sins for excess and not for defect and it is "(...)such fetishistic and reverential to the the original trilogy that resembles the work of a copyist monk who was fascinated by the sacred character of the text that transcribes(...)"! :hmmm:

Can not say, prior to see, if it is good thing or not.

[nikimcbee]

Please jeebus, let there be no comic relief characters.

Bump. Any comic relief characters?

Meesa love Steed.
http://site.disneyinternational.com/sites/default/files/Star%20Wars/Character%20pages/Inline%20Images/sw_cutout_jarjar-binks.jpg

[Betonov]

And I'm back. In short: I loved it.

It has it's flaws. I'll get them out first:
-some predictable plots, some predictable character traits
-it uses one plot point from the original trilogy that is quite often lampooned and I really wished they'd rewrite it a little better
-one very wooden performance
-emotionally inconsistent, in a span of 5 minutes they'd cram in humor, nostalgia, some more humor, suspense, brutal slaughter, humor, brutal slaughter, bonding of the new characters, a few more deaths, humor.... it goes to lighthearted to dark and then back waaaay toooo fast
-first order has something that works on Mofat physics.

-nostalgia note was heavy, but not overwhelming.

-story was once more shifted to a small group of people caught in a large scale galactic war that are also instrumental in the galaxies fate. No more politics and trade disputes. That may be the biggest ''original rip-off'', but if that didn't happen people would be crying ''that is not star warz'' Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Apart from that, it looks good, goes along nicely, didn't check my watch not once.
Performances were solid, except Harrison Ford was acting a bit senile, written as a joke to his age or was he realy senile at the set and they just went with it.
Humor, no comic relief (except Fords senility), no jar jar, no ewoks, no bumbling morons. Either occasional situational comedy or witty one liners/dialogues.
Effects are top notch, action scenes solid if not a bit too fast, the visual and sound of TIE vs X-wing was phenomenal.
Light saber duels, that one was the best of the previous films. No slow shuffle of the original trilogy, no over the top action scenes of the prequels. One on one, feet on the ground, parrying and striking where the opponent is vulnerable, no straight killing blow after a dance, but a search and exploitation of the opponents weakness and using it, even if it's not a KO.
Music: John Williams, nuff said

Like I said before, if you'll go to relax and enjoy the movie, you'll love it. If you'll go in with a critic notebook searching for mistakes you'll hate it. But then again you'll hate every movie.

2 spoilers, click at your own risk
you sure ??here goesKylo Ren is not Luke Skywalker and one of the originals die

[ikalugin]

Music: John Williams, nuff said
I didn't like it.

All the scenes/plot bits they took from the original (ie bar scene) were inferior. I really feel that they have downgraded the film to fit the "modern" audience.

[Betonov]

I felt like they took the originals and upgraded it to the modern audiences.
It's as good as the originals with better visuals.

[STEED]

A guy just went down my road shouting....watch the new Star Wars its a vote for Donald Trump! :-?

Strange folk about, stay inside I say. :03:

[Jimbuna]

I felt like they took the originals and upgraded it to the modern audiences.
It's as good as the originals with better visuals.

Not actually seen it yet but how I suspect it will turn out.

[Platapus]

How was the lens flare?

[Cybermat47]

How was the lens flare?

Non-existent ;)

I thought it was a great movie. The initial battle between the Resistance and the First Order was amazing, and, despite the small scale, one of the best battles in all of Star Wars. And any fears about BB-8 being a robot Jar Jar are immediatley crushed, as he proves his usefulness in his very first frame!

Also, bring tissues with you to the cinema.

[ReallyDedPoet]

And I'm back. In short: I loved it.

It has it's flaws. I'll get them out first:
-some predictable plots, some predictable character traits
-it uses one plot point from the original trilogy that is quite often lampooned and I really wished they'd rewrite it a little better
-one very wooden performance
-emotionally inconsistent, in a span of 5 minutes they'd cram in humor, nostalgia, some more humor, suspense, brutal slaughter, humor, brutal slaughter, bonding of the new characters, a few more deaths, humor.... it goes to lighthearted to dark and then back waaaay toooo fast
-first order has something that works on Mofat physics.

-nostalgia note was heavy, but not overwhelming.

-story was once more shifted to a small group of people caught in a large scale galactic war that are also instrumental in the galaxies fate. No more politics and trade disputes. That may be the biggest ''original rip-off'', but if that didn't happen people would be crying ''that is not star warz'' Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Apart from that, it looks good, goes along nicely, didn't check my watch not once.
Performances were solid, except Harrison Ford was acting a bit senile, written as a joke to his age or was he realy senile at the set and they just went with it.
Humor, no comic relief (except Fords senility), no jar jar, no ewoks, no bumbling morons. Either occasional situational comedy or witty one liners/dialogues.
Effects are top notch, action scenes solid if not a bit too fast, the visual and sound of TIE vs X-wing was phenomenal.
Light saber duels, that one was the best of the previous films. No slow shuffle of the original trilogy, no over the top action scenes of the prequels. One on one, feet on the ground, parrying and striking where the opponent is vulnerable, no straight killing blow after a dance, but a search and exploitation of the opponents weakness and using it, even if it's not a KO.
Music: John Williams, nuff said

Like I said before, if you'll go to relax and enjoy the movie, you'll love it. If you'll go in with a critic notebook searching for mistakes you'll hate it. But then again you'll hate every movie.



Concur with most of this ^^^^ Just got home from seeing it with my youngest. We had a great time.

The new characters are great, which is a huge plus going forward. Rey, Finn and Poe have great chemistry. Love BB8 and Snoke is very well done. Kylo Ren was good, lots of potential. Neat to see the old cast as well.

General Hux I thought was over the top and I expected Capt. Phasma to be more of a bad ass, but I am sure that will come in the next films.

Will see it again in the theatre :yep:

[nikimcbee]

Thanks for posting your thoughts on the movie!:salute:

[fireftr18]

Thanks for posting without spoilers. :up:

[d@rk51d3]

Also, bring tissues with you to the cinema.

Leia back in the bikini? :eek:

[Cybermat47]

Leia back in the bikini? :eek:

No, it's Han's turn to wear it this time :/\\k:

[Betonov]

I expected Capt. Phasma to be more of a bad ass, but I am sure that will come in the next films.



Yeah, I really thought she'd go a few rounds fist fighting with one of our heroes. That would be epic.
Gwendoline Christie knows how to make a presence in a scene

[Bubblehead1980]

Liked it but didn't care for one thing....don't want t be a spoiler yet.

[Oberon]

We do have spoiler tags...although I don't know if Neals fixed the problem with them not displaying right on mobile devices yet. :hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I will have to wait another six months for it to come out on DVD. No way I'm paying near on £15 to watch the film on top of a bus fair of £7 and all those screaming kids no way! Cheaper for me to wait.

Okay Steed, until you save enough money to see it, this should keep you busy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeXDrvPB5rI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3466767953&feature=iv&src_vid=XeXDrvPB5rI&v=K8ea7OiaLWo

[mako88sb]

After what he did to Star Trek, I won't give Jar Jar Abrams a dime. :nope:

I doubt I will ever pay to watch anymore of his Star Trek reboots but I'm actually looking forward to seeing this in the theater. I saw the original 3 on the big screen but I waited till the next 3 they were out on video. This one looks good enough to splurge a bit on.

[nikimcbee]

I doubt I will ever pay to watch anymore of his Star Trek reboots but I'm actually looking forward to seeing this in the theater. I saw the original 3 on the big screen but I waited till the next 3 they were out on video. This one looks good enough to splurge a bit on.


Saw it today, after work. I was really surprised that there wasn't a circus at the theater to see it.

Saw it in 3D:woot::up::woot:.

[STEED]

Friend of mind went to see it a die hard fan of the original film only and he hated it and stormed out. I must stress he only liked Star Wars and none of the others at all, I will not repeat what he said to me it will make you blush.

[Nippelspanner]

Friend of mind went to see it a die hard fan of the original film only and he hated it and stormed out. I must stress he only liked Star Wars and none of the others at all, I will not repeat what he said to me it will make you blush.
Eh, what did he expect?
The old movies are the old movies, nothing will ever be like that again, it is simply not possible.
He should curse himself, not the movie or you... meesa thinks.

[Cybermat47]

I must stress he only liked Star Wars and none of the others at all...

He doesn't like The Empire Strikes Back?! :o

[ikalugin]

He must be Argentinian.

[STEED]

Eh, what did he expect?
The old movies are the old movies, nothing will ever be like that again, it is simply not possible.


I must admit he has a strong dislike to movies after the mid 1980's. He thinks most films made today are for babies, bed wetters and people who can not do the Times Crossword puzzle. :o

He doesn't like The Empire Strikes Back?! :o

No, he only likes Star Wars because it's a western in space. If you ever go round his place and he puts on Space Cowboys as he calls it you know its Star Wars. :03:

He must be Argentinian.

Nah.....part Welsh part Irish. :doh:

[Oberon]

I just found out that John Boyega is from Peckham. If he doesn't punch his way through a door at some point (https://youtu.be/2waIvp265CM?t=184) during the movie I will be disappointed.

[STEED]

I just found out that John Boyega is from Peckham. If he doesn't punch his way through a door at some point (https://youtu.be/2waIvp265CM?t=184) during the movie I will be disappointed.

Content Warning

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And how does signing in prove my age? :damn:

I would say some TV content may be inappropriate for some viewers but that does not stop them watching it, should we all sign in to watch TV?

[Rhodes]

You have to sign in to your youtube account!

[STEED]

You have to sign in to your youtube account!

I don't have one and don't want one and as for their case is like filling a paper bag full of water, useless. :hulk:

[Cybermat47]

http://youtu.be/r0eEKDfLNPg

[d@rk51d3]

Saw it last night.

Felt a bit mediocre to me. Alot of "been there done that".
Kylo Ren showed potential at the beginning, but turned into a sniveling whiny little sook.

Better than the prequels, but not quite up to the originals................ except Return Of the Jedi, which I'm not keen on.

To me, Empire Strikes Back is still the one. :up:

[nikimcbee]

To me, Empire Strikes Back is still the one. :up:

This.:D

[ReallyDedPoet]

Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
The Force Awakens
Return of the Jedi ( Teddy Bear Picnic being the main reason )
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/GH4JQ1k.jpg

[THE_MASK]

Appropriately placed Disney merchandise props intermixed with lots of special effects . Not much else :down:
Lets blow up a death star again :down:

[Buddahaid]

Friend of mind went to see it a die hard fan of the original film only and he hated it and stormed out. I must stress he only liked Star Wars and none of the others at all, I will not repeat what he said to me it will make you blush.

But it's...
the same plot!

[Nippelspanner]

Lets blow up a death star again :down:
Man... if there'd be only such thing as spoiler tags here....damn...

[Rhodes]

To be fair, that's not a spoiler, that's a error, because they do not blow up the Death Star again. But the space station does have a small cameo!:D

When to see last night. Honestly I hoped for more, but it's good movie in/of the franchise. It really sins only for be to must dedicated to Star Wars.
Harrison Ford steals every scene he is in and I like Daisy Ridley, she give a good performance!


It is almost like the remake the original Star Wars/Episode IV!

And for the hollyday season:
https://media.giphy.com/media/Lk1N6bMivyJBS/giphy.gif

[STEED]

Lets blow up a death star again :down:

Q
How many of these super powerful Death Star's does the Empire need?

A
Until they can build one that has no weakness what so ever and can kick the rebellion up the backside.

[STEED]

But it's...
the same plot!

He didn't say at what point he stormed out.

[mapuc]

It is a movie Mr DeGrasse

http://www.iflscience.com/space/neil-degrasse-tyson-finds-fault-science-star-wars

Markus

[Raptor1]

It is a movie Mr DeGrasse

Movies, like any (soft) science fiction, don't need scientific accuracy to be good, but it can certainly help them be more enjoyable. I don't agree with most of his points in this instance, though. Things like BB-8 not skidding on the sand can be easily handwaved by assuming it's equipped with technology capable of preventing this. Ironically, the previous explanation for how the infamous Kessel Run line was logical no longer seems to be possible as of this movie, but that's a minor issue.

Anyway, yes, Star Wars Episode VII and all that. I just managed to finally get around to watching it. I think it rather impressed me in a few aspects, as it was not entirely the train wreck I initially expected it to be, but I don't think it really holds up as a sequel to the original trilogy either in quality or in, err, sequel-ness.

I'll start with the good parts. I liked most of the characters, both the old and the new ones. There hasn't been a great deal of development to most of them, but I expect that that is largely because this is only the first part. The soundtrack was quite good, at least what I could hear of it through the bloody audience, but that's to be expected. When it comes to visuals, this movie very much attempts to recreate the aesthetics of the original trilogy and I think it does a rather good job at it for the most part (though it did default to standard modern movie look in a few places). I wasn't one of those too bothered by lens flare in the Star Trek movies and I wasn't looking out specifically for it, so I didn't notice if there was an unnecessary amount for anyone that cares. Sorry.

As far as story is concerned, I thought the movie started out well and was quite interesting for the first half or so. It sets up a story that ties in to the original trilogy and yet, despite copying a lot of the plot structure and having a large amount of shot-for-shot scenes, seems to have a distinct premise. Then around the second half it rushes forward, expands the scope of its story (which has previously focused on largely small-scale events) considerably, sets aside anything that distinguished it from Episode IV and proceeds to copy its entire plot resolution from it. It does all this while simultaneously not bothering in the slightest to establish any context for what is going on or any serious connection to the events of the original trilogy, leaving the whole thing seeming rather hollow.

I'll try to elaborate a bit, though I don't think I can express this very well:

The opening crawl for this movie, much like the other movies, lays out the basic premise. There's a New Republic supporting a Resistance fighting against the First Order, who used to be the Empire and want to exterminate the Jedi; fair enough. We then start off on Jakku, introduced to the characters, the main factions and the basic plot. This is all well and good. The problem is that by the time the movie reaches its third act, in which the Resistance is planning the galaxy's most ad-hoc operation to blow up the First Order's superweapon, the original premise is half-discarded in favour of a repeat of the Death Star and Battle of Yavin sequences from Episode IV. This happens with not the slightest explanation of why the conflict is taking place, what any side of it is standing for, why it came about, or what meaning any of it has for the future, and the movie ends soon afterwards.

The original trilogy didn't have much in the way of explanation about its setup, but it didn't need any: the Empire has overthrown democracy in the galaxy, it is building a superweapon to establish its rule by fear and the Rebels are trying to stop it; everything was very self-explanatory just by the events of the first movie. Episode VII, on the other hand, has both a much less self-evident premise and attempts to be a continuation to the events of the original trilogy, and it just doesn't bother to establish its setting either on its own or in relation to the movies it's following up on. Who is this Republic, which we see for only about 5 seconds of the movie, how does it work, over what does it rule? How was the First Order established from the Empire, why does it want to destroy the Jedi so badly when they barely even exist, what is the extent of its power or the scale of its conflict with either the Resistance (which seems to be comprised of nothing more than a couple of X-Wing squadrons) or the Republic? Why doesn't the Republic seem to directly fight the First Order when it's obviously a big enough threat that it can wipe out its political and military strength with one shot from its new superweapon (if that's even what happened, since nothing is established that gives any sort of perspective to this scene)? All of the locations from the old movies are completely missing from this one, and most of their events are barely alluded to, so you can't even draw reference to them for the most part.

(It really doesn't help that the First Order's superweapon seemingly destroying multiple planets in visual sight of each other, an event which can then be seen in real time from a completely different star system, has by this point completely destroyed my immersion in the movie's supposedly galactic-scale events.)

Sure, Episodes VIII and IX will answer some of these questions, but the almost complete lack of elaboration on this movie's setting and lack of attempt to connect it to the older movies not only made it seem like it's taking place in a completely different universe, but also in a setting that feels almost devoid of life. In Episode IV I found it easy to believe there was a Galactic Civil War going on and see what role the events of the movie have in it, but in Episode VII it seems like these (largely identical) things just happen with little reason or meaning.

If any of what I'm saying even makes sense...
I can't really say it's a bad movie by its own virtue, but I think it ultimately ends up with a story and setting that feel like they're neither stand-alone nor recognizably a continuation of the older movies, despite the appearance of characters and a few other elements from them, and a plot that is very visibly attempting to imitate the older movies (and is entirely predictable as a result) rather than build on them to something new.

I also can't help but compare this movie unfavourably to Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, which largely took the role of 'sequel trilogy' in the old continuity and which I think is a much more complex and interesting story (so far, at least). Directly adapting these books would have been impractical, and not just because the prequels contradict large parts of them, but I think they are a good example of how a sequel to the original trilogy could have been much more coherently tied to it while not copying it.

Those are my initial thoughts, at least. I'd probably have to watch the whole series again, but at least I can say that I enjoyed this movie a fair bit more than most of the prequels, and I'm not even the most avid hater of those, so it can't be that bad.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

It is a movie Mr DeGrasse

http://www.iflscience.com/space/neil-degrasse-tyson-finds-fault-science-star-wars

Markus

I am pretty sure he's a doctor.

[razark]

Saw the movie earlier. It's not bad, better than the prequels. But it does lean much to heavily on recreating scenes from the original trilogy. I think the film has enough to stand on it's own, without having to hit us over the head with how awesome Star Wars IV-VI were.

[Onkel Neal]

Well, I saw it yesterday, at a friend's insistence. Knew nearly nothing about the film going in.


Don't read if you do not want the plot spoiled.
Man, what a waste of 2 hours. The stormtrooper guy was a limp lead, no charisma--breathing hard is not acting. The girl was ok, but suprise! She's a jedi and doesn't have a clue. Another droid with important info, another desert planet, another ice planet, another baddie with a mask, mix in another trench run on a death star with the clock ticking... a retread of a great movie from 1977. At least Harrison Ford pumped a little life into the movie,,,while it lasted. :down:

[STEED]

Well, I saw it yesterday, at a friend's insistence. Knew nearly nothing about the film going in.


Don't read if you do not want the plot spoiled.
Man, what a waste of 2 hours. The stormtrooper guy was a limp lead, no charisma--breathing hard is not acting. The girl was ok, but suprise! She's a jedi and doesn't have a clue. Another droid with important info, another desert planet, another ice planet, another baddie with a mask, mix in another trench run on a death star with the clock ticking... a retread of a great movie from 1977. At least Harrison Ford pumped a little life into the movie,,,while it lasted. :down:

Wonderful review Neal, I see you're not wearing rose tinted glasses and that is very refreshing straight to the point no farting around. :yeah:

[mapuc]

I am pretty sure he's a doctor.

His fully name is Neil DeGrasse Tyson an American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author and science communicator.

Markus

[ReallyDedPoet]

Daisy Ridley carried the movie and then some.

[XabbaRus]

It's awesome. I thought the tone, the script and the acting was really good. A few in jokes that throw back to Episode IV but done in a good way.

Good to see the old gang back together.....

Will be interesting to see where it goes.

[Buddahaid]

Yeah, JJ might get an original idea for once.

[GT182]

I can't vote on it... as I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, that last part should be an option in the Poll.

So send me a beer or two.... or three even. . ;)

[Sailor Steve]

That's why he included the 'I don't Know' choice. :sunny:

[STEED]

The poll was about the trailer if people want a vote on the film please select the options below and every weekend I will update it up to the end of Jan 2016.


New Poll

Did you like the new film?

A. Yes
B. No
C. I am not sure what to make of it


I can not vote as I'm not going to see it until it comes out on DVD.

Results so far below as of Dec 31 2015

A. Yes (6)
B. No (0)
C. I am not sure what to make of it (0)

[Betonov]

A

It's flawed, but enjoyable.

[nikimcbee]

A


Steed, go see it in 3D, you'll have a good time.:up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

A.

Best thing about the restart ( so far ) are the new characters. Hopefully they will listen to what fans are saying and crank it up a notch for VIII.

[Buddahaid]

Please pray that this never happens.
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/24/10660766/star-wars-franchise-reboot-the-prequels

[mapuc]

When its available I will rent the 3D version.

Markus

[White Comet]

I've always been more of a Trekkie myself, but I enjoyed the film.

[Dowly]

B+ from me. It's good, but not THAT good.

[Rockstar]

40 unforgivable plot holes in star wars the force awakens (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html)

Do not read if you liked it or haven't watched the movie.

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[BrucePartington]

40 unforgivable plot holes in star wars the force awakens (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html)

Do not read if you liked it or haven't watched the movie.

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Indeed, unforgivable.
The only way I can understand it is if they favoured impressing young newcomers to the saga, who aren't able to spot all the recycling going on. How disappointing for us Star Wars veterans. I was 12 when ep.IV premièred.
Cheap tv series have proportionally less plot holes.
A wasted opportunity.

If they make a VIII, I doubt the "originals" will be available to help recuperate the saga. Carrie Fisher is unrecognisable after all these years, Mark Hamill isn't looking any younger, and they killed Han.
I suspect from this point on it'll just glide down.

[Buddahaid]

Well maybe we could find forty plot hole plot hole mistakes in this article. I mean they have no sense of humor, take #2 for instance. That was a joke, a funny line, a bonhomie moment, etc.

[Betonov]

The entire saga has 280 plot holes.
I mean, space travel and sword fighting, bright uniforms, 17th century tactics, dials and switches in cockpits of FTL vessels, FTL capability of fighters, economies capable of building 2 death stars and an economy of a hasbeen empire carving out a planet...

[Eichhörnchen]

I've avoided reading this thread... we're going to watch it tomorrow :)

[Buddahaid]

I've avoided reading this thread... we're going to watch it tomorrow :)

I liked this comment I read yesterday.

"Mark my words, we will see this again. Its called Star Wars - there IS NO plot other than fighting."

[XabbaRus]

Well maybe we could find forty plot hole plot hole mistakes in this article. I mean they have no sense of humor, take #2 for instance. That was a joke, a funny line, a bonhomie moment, etc.

This. I don't know why but I just get a bit fed up with smart-asses like this trying to be funny with takedowns.

Like the film, not like the film, fine everyone is entitled to their opinion but it just seems nowadays it is cool to try and be ironic.

Yes there was a lot of throwback and many in jokes. I liked it. I can also appreciate why some people didn't but I'm not going to bash people for not liking it.

[Nippelspanner]

40 unforgivable plot holes in star wars the force awakens (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html)

Do not read if you liked it or haven't watched the movie.

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I skipped through it and came to a very obvious conclusion:
The author has no idea what a plot hole is.

[Betonov]

Nippespanner, Buddahaid and XabbaRus, I'm with you on this one.
Too many ''critics'' out there that are caught in some wave of negative critic at all costs. They are no longer reviewing, but nitpicking and bashing just for the sake of bashing.

The best case I can make for this is the Boondock saints (1999) (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/boondock_saints/) in Rotten tomatoes.
http://i.imgur.com/Bmhienj.jpg

Critic score 20%, audience score 91% ????????
How the hell can this be unless critics have become whinny little bitches thinking that absolute snobery is the way to go.

[Sailor Steve]

How the hell can this be unless critics have become whinny little bitches thinking that absolute snobery is the way to go.
Many, many years ago, TV Guide hired famous critic Judith Crist to do their movie reviews. In her very first report she said something along the lines of "Your Aunt Mary probably watches more movies than I do, and probably has opinions more in line with yours than mine are. I get paid to review movies, but my reviews are still just my opinion, so take everything I write with a grain of salt."

In one of her funnier reviews she spent the entire article bashing Charles Bronson's latest movie. After telling us everything that was wrong with it she ended with "...but if you're a Charles Bronson fan like I am you'll love it anyway."

[Betonov]

She at least pointed out that her review is her personal opinion. Most of the critics today love to point out that anyone dissagreeing are mouth breathers, knuckle dragger and/or Michael Bay fans.

And it's not just the critics. Everytime we start talking about movies at the pub, there's always one, mostly more, that begin nitpicking the movie to the point I want to pick their teeth out of their mouths.

I'll start my own review channel, really. The blue collar reviews. From an educated, generally versed person employed as an industrial worker that demands movies to give him a relaxing entertainment after work. No snobery, no nitpicking.

[STEED]

Coming to a TV near you..


FILM 2016 with your film critic Betonov

:)

[Nippelspanner]

They are no longer reviewing, but nitpicking and bashing just for the sake of bashing.
Exactly this.

While I don't think this SW movie was that good, the 40 "unforgivable" plot holes are total non-issues and some of them are even flat out wrong.

I HATE it when I read reviews and you can clearly see that the reviewer didn't even pay attention or didn't understand certain things.
Why does everyone feel the need to write on the net today?
The quality of such articles is in very most cases below average. So many just write so they can write. "Look I'm an author on a blog reviewing movies, attention please, attention!" :nope:

Pathetic.

[Betonov]

Coming to a TV near you..


FILM 2016 with your film critic Betonov

:)

First on my list: Straight outta Grumpton (2016). A biography of an Englishman and his internet forum friends as they battle bad BBC sci-fi series :)


The quality of such articles is in very most cases below average. So many just write so they can write. "Look I'm an author on a blog reviewing movies, attention please, attention!" :nope:

Pathetic.

That sums it up quite nicely

[Cybermat47]

Carrie Fisher is unrecognisable after all these years, Mark Hamill isn't looking any younger, and they killed Han.

It's almost as though as time goes on, people change physically, but that's just crazy talk.

And there's no way Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die all the way back in The Empire Strikes Back, despite what Harrison Ford might say (but what does he know?).

But seriously, people should be able to see that the film was so similar to the OT because the filmmakers had to prove that they could actually make a Star Wars movie after the prequels had happened.

[Cybermat47]

40 unforgivable plot holes in star wars the force awakens (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html)

Do not read if you liked it or haven't watched the movie.

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From the article:

Isn't the Republic intergalactic?

This person knows so little about Star Wars that they didn't even pay attention to the first few frames of any given Star Wars movie.

[Betonov]

This person knows so little about Star Wars that they didn't even pay attention to the first few frames of any given Star Wars movie.

The Galactic republic wasn't even fully galactic, let alone intergalactic. It spanned roughly 2/3 of the galaxy regarding the lore you can google up.
Same for the Empire.

Bad review that is.

[Raptor1]

The Galactic republic wasn't even fully galactic, let alone intergalactic. It spanned roughly 2/3 of the galaxy regarding the lore you can google up.
Same for the Empire.

Bad review that is.

Unless some of the newer material or the movies reference the size of the Republic, that information has been tossed out of the window along with the rest of the EU. As for Episode VII's Republic, the movie gives so little information about it that it might be made up of a single star system for all we know.

[Cybermat47]

Unless some of the newer material or the movies reference the size of the Republic, that information has been tossed out of the window along with the rest of the EU.

Well, there are still unknown regions in the new canon, so there's no way that the Republic was ever fully galactic.

[Raptor1]

Well, there are still unknown regions in the new canon, so there's no way that the Republic was ever fully galactic.

I guess it's likely that the scale of the Republic is the same as it used to be. I'll admit that, with the exception of Episode VII itself, I have little knowledge of the new continuity, and the movie didn't quite make me interested in reading more into it.

[Eichhörnchen]

I read somewhere that there are many wrinkles in the space-time continuum; I just seen 'em

[Onkel Neal]

40 Unforgivable Plot Holes in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'

Only 40? :haha:

3. Kylo Ren, a powerful Force-user, fights a light saber duel with an ex-janitor who has never held a light saber and yet (a) never uses the Force on his opponent, though doing so would have ended the duel immediately, and (b) barely wins the fight, suggesting that he is simultaneously one of the least strategic wielders of the Force the Dark Side has ever seen and, despite his training, absolutely terrible with a light saber.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html

Yeah, many of these occurred to me as I watched the film.

[Betonov]

Isn't that the 40 plot holes article we already had and came to the conclusion that the writter had not ever seen one SW movie before :hmmm:

[Nippelspanner]

40 Unforgivable Plot Holes in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'
http://i.imgur.com/yiGiA5k.png

[STEED]

Housing Estate Looks Like Millennium Falcon

http://news.sky.com/story/1619126/housing-estate-looks-like-millennium-falcon

Calm down will you...:D

[mapuc]

By reading some of the answers

I get this

Person A-I'm thinking about seeing the new Star Wars

Person B-Have you seen the other 6 in the series ?

Person A-Indeed I have, that's why I'm going to see it

Person B-Don't bother, Star Wars 7 contains clips from the first 6 movies, with about 10 minutes new made which is with some new cast.

Markus