Going Hunting?

[Thomen]

Hi there =)

Out of curiosity: I was just wondering how many hunters we do have here? I am strongly considering going to next years bow season in MD or WV. I only bought my bow a few month back and don't want to go without making sure I do can hit what I am shooting at.

I do own a .50 Smoke Stick, which I might thinking about taking too next year.

What do you guys use, if any?

Thanks,

[Tango589]

I prefer to venture out with a rolled up newspaper. This is more than enough to slay any beast when in the hands of ex-special forces.

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/m5GHDsz.jpg?1

[Tango589]

Easy. A well aimed blow with the Daily Fail will put paid to that cycloptic meanie in short order! Also, the M134 General Electric Minigun also works wonders...

[Jimbuna]

Always enjoy hunting the criminal fraternity if that counts.

[Armistead]

Not the hunter I once was, meaning, I lived in the woods during hunting season. I bow hunt now, might go a few times with my rifle. I've actually killed one with a bow in my backyard. I'm in the city limits, but my house backs up to woods and bow hunting is allowed. Usually see numerous deer in my yard everyday. I could actually shoot out my upper story bathroom window...OTT, I do a lot of bird hunting...

[vanjast]

I'm particularly useless at hitting a target 5 feet in front of me... it might as well be a barn door.

If the target moves... then I don't miss.
Funny isn't it !!
:timeout:

[August]

I've done a lot more hunting than I have catching... :yep:

[Rockstar]

Hi there =)

Out of curiosity: I was just wondering how many hunters we do have here? I am strongly considering going to next years bow season in MD or WV. I only bought my bow a few month back and don't want to go without making sure I do can hit what I am shooting at.

I do own a .50 Smoke Stick, which I might thinking about taking too next year.

Have you hunted before?

What do you guys use, if any?

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[Armistead]

My best hunting story, killed 3 deer in one morning, basically dropping one within feet of the other. Heck, one was smelling a dead one I just killed, when I dropped it on top of it. Wasn't long, here come another....bang. Down east in NC you can about walk on deer.

[Buddahaid]

Not me. I've never enjoyed killing anything since I grew up.

[Aktungbby]

Not the hunter I once was, meaning, I lived in the woods during hunting season. I bow hunt now, might go a few times with my rifle. I've actually killed one with a bow in my backyard. I'm in the city limits, but my house backs up to woods and bow hunting is allowed. Usually see numerous deer in my yard everyday. I could actually shoot out my upper story bathroom window...OTT, I do a lot of bird hunting...

I'm ahead on points...three this year alone with the Corolla at all hours; one was a six point buck and two Bambi's. The buck caromed into me at 60 mph hitting at 2AM just in front of my driver mirror and leaving a good dent in the rear fender; I don't see how it could have survived the encounter.

[Red October1984]

Out of curiosity: I was just wondering how many hunters we do have here? I am strongly considering going to next years bow season in MD or WV. I only bought my bow a few month back and don't want to go without making sure I do can hit what I am shooting at.

Me. I hunt at least something all year round. Squirrels, coyotes, ducks, deer, unsuspecting birds, pesky beavers (you think I joke...), drones, trespassers, etc.

What do you guys use, if any?

Deer - .30-06 Browning
Coyotes - either my Mosin-Nagant or .223 Savage
Squirrels - prefer a .22LR over a .17 or shotgun
Ducks - Benelli 12 gauge pump (never killed one but have been twice. Looking to get into waterfowl hunting more this year)

Been thinking about getting into muzzleloading. Not a big fan of the bow and arrow. I like to have range and there's just something about a rifle that makes hunting more fun than hunting with a bow.

[Thomen]

Multi-quote doesn't seem to work . =(

Anyways,

@Jim
Hunting the Brotherhood of Steal certainly counts.

@Armistad,
Here in the area, you have to be at least 150 yrds from the nearest residence for hunting/practice (shooting) with firearms. I believe for bows it is 50 yrds.
We are currently looking to buy 20+ acres in WV, and maybe use that for hunting, if possible.
If I may ask, what bow do you use?

@Rockstar,
No, I did not.
That is way I am aiming for next year to make sure that I, a.) know what I am doing or I am supposed to be doing, and b.) in case of change of mind/objections from the missus there to be enough time to come up with a different plan. But if I had Maddox "manliness", I'd certainly punch that lizard, too. ;)

@Red October
I do have a 30-06 in addition to the old Mauser that I posted about sometime ago, but around here they prefer you use a shotgun with deer slugs for going after deer. I do love shooting my muzzle-loader, though. It makes you work for every single shot, and the smell (or stench depending who you asked) and smoke are just awesome. Black powder might not be good for hunting, but it does make a lasting impression. :D

[Aktungbby]

Hi there =)

Out of curiosity: I was just wondering how many hunters we do have here? I am strongly considering going to next years bow season in MD or WV. I only bought my bow a few month back and don't want to go without making sure I do can hit what I am shooting at.

I do own a .50 Smoke Stick, which I might thinking about taking too next year.

What do you guys use, if any?

Thanks,
the drug of choice at my place: lyman .50 plains rifle http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/LGPRifle5.jpg& a Thompson Center Hawkin with vernier Tang sight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0goGEb4uoqc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0goGEb4uoqc) Both made from kits with barrels browned over stove to plum brown!

Not me. I've never enjoyed killing anything since I grew up.

THATS BLASTFEMY!:har: considering your peculiar talents :woot:http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd52/sirwinpb/Album%20Three/STVIIIRifleBuild147.jpg (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/sirwinpb/media/Album%20Three/STVIIIRifleBuild147.jpg.html)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/baddog_zpsea34035b.jpg:D

[Armistead]

Multi-quote doesn't seem to work . =(



@Armistad,
Here in the area, you have to be at least 150 yrds from the nearest residence for hunting/practice (shooting) with firearms. I believe for bows it is 50 yrds.
We are currently looking to buy 20+ acres in WV, and maybe use that for hunting, if possible.
If I may ask, what bow do you use?
:D

I hunt with a 45# long bow. It's most comfortable for me controlling the shot and I try to keep my shots at short as possible, 20 yards or so at the most

[Eichhörnchen]

Squirrels - prefer a .22LR over a .17 or shotgunhttp://i.imgur.com/iWIdKqt.jpg?1.


"Whaaat? WHAAAAT?!"

[d@rk51d3]

For a dose of "stick and string" I have a Fred Bear Element, but generally lack the time to go stalking properly.

.22LR CZ 452 American, and a Ruger Red Label 12g (one of only 419 original blued receivers) for nights out on the bunnies and hares, or whistling foxes.

.222 Remington 788 for knocking off the kangaroos,

.308 Ruger GSR export, for the venison fix.

[Rockstar]

Once upon a time, a group of us was sitting around the campfire arguing what was the best weapon in the world. The younger fellas boasted the nomenclature of their favorite firearm attempting to convince the others how 'it' could out perform all others.

After awhile an old retired warrior spoke up and said to all. The best weapon in the world is the one you can use most effectively to kill your enemy. Whether it is a bow, .50 cal., M24, grenade, rock or a stick. It got awfully quiet after that.

In the case of deer hunting it's prety much the same, to become effective with whatever you use you must practice, practice, practice.

I think too what is equally important as having an effective weapon, is what to do with the animal once it's been killed. Do not skimp on or use cheap knives, purchase reputable quality skinning and fillet knifes only and keep'em sharp.

For deer I use fillet knives to cut out the anus and then the esophagus as close to the head as possible, using a several bread ties to close each end off to prevent the stomach contents from leaking into the meat.

To evisorate the beast a good skinning knife is indispensable. Becareful to not ever ever cut or puncture the internal organs. Learn too the cuts of meat to make sure you let nothing go to waste thereby getting the most out your kill. Or just dress it and bring it to the butcher.

[Eichhörnchen]

This might be a good moment to reflect on how this all does point up cultural differences between us over here (and maybe that includes most other Europeans, I don't know) and you guys in the US.

You have the "frontier" history which necessitated a skill with firearms, knives etc and which skills have been celebrated and passed down from father to son (and daughter) and continued on in your recreational hunting activities. We don't have that tradition here: civilian use of weapons here is usually through the medium of gun-clubs and youth organisations such as the Cadet Corps, where instruction in proper use is given; our Dads didn't pass gun safety sense on to us.

We don't have this same widespread tradition of hunting (killed of most of our bigger critters in the past anyway) so shooting skills tend more to be focused on target shooting or gamebird shooting (a whole other subject and one which is a great tradition). We don't have the vast wild places anymore; I would guess that if stag shooting in the Highlands continues then it would be as a highly regulated sport for wealthy individuals.

[Dread Knot]

This might be a good moment to reflect on how this all does point up cultural differences between us over here (and maybe that includes most other Europeans, I don't know) and you guys in the US.

You have the "frontier" history which necessitated a skill with firearms, knives etc and which skills have been celebrated and passed down from father to son (and daughter) and continued on in your recreational hunting activities.


This is also why the founding fathers wisely included Constitutional protections for the right to arm bears.

However, for some inexplicable reason the bears have for centuries failed to avail themselves of this God-given right. Perhaps the Constitution needs to be re-written in Ursine.

[Eichhörnchen]

:rotfl2: Would've made the Yogi Bear cartoons a lot more interesting...

[Dread Knot]

:rotfl2: Would've made the Yogi Bear cartoons a lot more interesting...

"I'm gonna kick Mr. Ranger's butt today Boo-Boo!"

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[Wolferz]

:haha: Sport hunting would be a lot different if the animals shot back.:huh:

[Thomen]

@Rockstar
I completely agree. That is why I am not just jumping in there and start blasting away. My Old Man sent me his books and course material when he took his Hunters Ed and license in Germany. I have to say, the requirements are for the license are completely different, and in Germany require much more knowledge than it does here in the US.

@Aktungbby
I got something similar, but mine came out of a pawn shop, rather a kit. I shoots fine, but I need to replace the sights since the former owner totally screwed those up.

@Eichhornchen
I do agree for a large part with what you said, but I think a big portion of this is not just "hunting will be for the rich" or lack of land, but also personal and public interest. I grew up around firearms in Germany; my dad made a point out of teaching me the proper safe handling, shooting and maintaining the firearms when I was around 12 or so. Until last year, last time I really handled or shot a firearms of any kind was in '94 when I was still in the German army; after that point I kinda lost interest until I my wife gave me a handgun for my birthday last year. :up:

Traditionally hunters were seen on scale from suspect to murder, at least in the larger German population areas. So that might has to be taken into account when one discusses spread of hunting in Europe and Germany in particular.

[Eichhörnchen]

It sounds as though public attitudes in Germany to legal gun ownership are similar to ours: that it's out of the ordinary except for farmers and gamebird/clay shooters, in other words countrymen or those aspiring to be countrymen basically.

Sure there are a lot of less than wealthy country-dwellers who enjoy a spot of pigeon-shooting on farmland (I know plenty) but hunting? I don't know that anyone does it over here anymore. As you suggest, most people would regard other types of gun-owners (rifle, pistol etc) with suspicion. :03:

[Dread Knot]

As you suggest, most people would regard other types of gun-owners (rifle, pistol etc) with suspicion. :03:

That's increasing the case here in the US. I remember watching one kid react with revulsion to a deer in the tailback of a hunter's truck as if he had just seen a blue whale dragged into the maw of a factory ship. Cover your fresh game with a tarp I guess.

[Armistead]

They finally admitted we have a black bear population in our county. We can actually hunt them during deer season, so it's like a double option of sorts.

Being a large rural county, we have a lot of poor. The county has several drop off points where you can donate your deer for food for the hungry. They'll even take the head off for you and give you some of the preferred meat if you ask, but limited in pounds.

Would suck to live where hunting was a rich sport.

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/WKgic0c.png?1

They finally admitted we have a black bear population in our county. We can actually hunt them during deer season, so it's like a double option of sorts.


You might just see it if you wait long enough; just take aim carefully...

[Aktungbby]

They finally admitted we have a black bear population in our county. We can actually hunt them during deer season, so it's like a double option of sorts.

HOW CAN YOU THINK OF SUCH A THING! http://twinstrivia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Hamms-bear2.jpg an indispensible gizmo 4 a night hunt!::har:http://s1.hubimg.com/u/209800_f520.jpghttp://www.jacksbookreviews.com/uploads/4/5/7/6/4576069/857268.jpg:D

[Red October1984]

@Red October
I do have a 30-06 in addition to the old Mauser that I posted about sometime ago, but around here they prefer you use a shotgun with deer slugs for going after deer. I do love shooting my muzzle-loader, though. It makes you work for every single shot, and the smell (or stench depending who you asked) and smoke are just awesome. Black powder might not be good for hunting, but it does make a lasting impression. :D

Black powder is great for hunting if you're a good shot and the animal presents you with a satisfactory target. With a rifle, I'd probably take a shot at a deer walking toward me...but with a muzzleloader I'd definitely wait until it's turned broadside.

One year I nailed two small does at 100 yards...with a semiautomatic rifle. Can't do that with a muzzleloader. I respect black powder guys for that. So much more goes behind every shot. It's not as simple as filling the magazine with prepared ammo. Not as simple as aiming slightly high at 140 yards.

I want to hunt with one. Soon. :arrgh!:

"Whaaat? WHAAAAT?!"

.17 has no power at all. I tried to hunt squirrels with it once. Saw a squirrel running away from me....6 shots later it was dead. A .22 hollow point would've killed it in one or two.

For deer I use fillet knives to cut out the anus and then the esophagus as close to the head as possible, using a several bread ties to close each end off to prevent the stomach contents from leaking into the meat.

I have seen tools you can get that you stick up the deer's anus, twist and pull out so you can easily cut it off and slide the rest out from the inside.

To evisorate the beast a good skinning knife is indispensable. Becareful to not ever ever cut or puncture the internal organs. Learn too the cuts of meat to make sure you let nothing go to waste thereby getting the most out your kill. Or just dress it and bring it to the butcher.

Usually we take our deer to the butcher. Ground deer meat is very cheap.

Have you ever gutted a deer in the pitch black night by feel? That was quite the experience. I was still learning how....having done it once before in perfectly good daylight. Dad handed me the knife and said "You've watched me enough."

Know your target inside and out! :haha:

This might be a good moment to reflect on how this all does point up cultural differences between us over here (and maybe that includes most other Europeans, I don't know) and you guys in the US.

There is a Frenchman who comes to my town every year specifically for deer season. He comes out and stays with a family in the community he's friends with for two weeks.

I love taking out new hunters and showing them how. Keeps old traditions going. It's a shame a lot of the wildlife is dead over there. :wah:

Hunting is much more than just killing and lying about size. :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Although we don't live that life anymore in the UK, I get the feeling that hunting and preparing the kill maybe goes on in a similar way in Russia and the Balkans.

[Armistead]

Black powder is great for hunting if you're a good shot and the animal presents you with a satisfactory target. With a rifle, I'd probably take a shot at a deer walking toward me...but with a muzzleloader I'd definitely wait until it's turned broadside.

:)

I love black powder and have no problem taking a front shot, IMO, one of the best shots for a kill if LOS is good.

[Rockstar]

Just an FYI, if you're up for a trip to do some bow hunting consider Assateague Island National Seashore. Small white tail and asian elk roam about on the Maryland side. We get around 2 million visitors a year so they are used to noise and people, most just stand there land look at you when come up on one.

Last time I looked at the regulations deer taken on the National Seashore do not count towards state bag limits either.

[Tango589]

Just an FYI, if you're up for a trip to do some bow hunting consider Assateague Island National Seashore. Small white tail and asian elk roam about...most just stand there land look at you when come up on one.

They sound like the perfect candidates for:

I prefer to venture out with a rolled up newspaper.

[Betonov]

Although we don't live that life anymore in the UK, I get the feeling that hunting and preparing the kill maybe goes on in a similar way in Russia and the Balkans.

Only if you're a member of a ''hunting family'' or a poacher.
Hunting is a closed privilege here. For a good reason though. The wildlife population couldn't survive one half of an open hunting season without everything going extinct.

[Aktungbby]

I love black powder and have no problem taking a front shot, IMO, one of the best shots for a kill if LOS is good.[/QUOTE]
Vat do U mean! IF der LOS iss good! :k_confused: :Kaleun_Mad: :Kaleun_Los::D [QUOTE]ROCKSTAR:consider Assateague Island National Seashore. Small white tail and asian elk roam about http://www.nps.gov/asis/naturescience/images/roundup_1.jpg Just don't shoot the world famous feral ponies by accident!:nope:

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/PRcjogz.png?1

[Red October1984]

I love black powder and have no problem taking a front shot, IMO, one of the best shots for a kill if LOS is good.

The only reason I'm hesitant about a front shot is that it seems to be the shot that always misses in my experience. Every couple of years I get a deer walking straight at me with its head down. I've missed that shot 3 times when I was younger. I'd rather wait for a better shot if possible. If it's a doe, i've gone for a headshot. Made a mess of a deer one year doing that.

Wasn't clean....but it was quick and it got the job done.

[Armistead]

The only reason I'm hesitant about a front shot is that it seems to be the shot that always misses in my experience. Every couple of years I get a deer walking straight at me with its head down. I've missed that shot 3 times when I was younger. I'd rather wait for a better shot if possible. If it's a doe, i've gone for a headshot. Made a mess of a deer one year doing that.

Wasn't clean....but it was quick and it got the job done.

Well, certainly never take a shot you're not comfortable with and much depends on how clear the shot is, thickness of brush, etc.

The biggest buck I ever killed with a bow was the first day of bow season. It was actually a hot day and my friend and I just went to get our stands up, but decided to hunt the afternoon. I bet I hadn't sat in my stand a minute, covered in sweat and smoking a cig {did then} when I heard it behind me eating acorns. I was up fairly high, but with cig in lip I stood up, got turned and pulled...but the shot wasn't right. I thought he would step out into a clearing, but he stopped. I got caught in the pull, but hung on. Seemed a few minutes, he finally stepped out and I shot. He was 10 points.

[Tango589]

he finally stepped out and I shot. He was 10 points.
Do you get awarded points for bagging these? What's your high score?












:O:

[Armistead]

Do you get awarded points for bagging these? What's your high score?












:O:

haha, well, there is a typical scoring method used by hunters known as Boone and Crockett.

http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/bc_scoring_typwhitetail.asp?area=bgRecords&type=Typical+Whitetail+Deer

[ikalugin]

Does anyone else use thermals?

[Tango589]

Only when it's cold enough to freeze the tits off a witch.

[Aktungbby]

Does anyone else use thermals?

Absolutely! http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e88833014e5f7f1d27970c-800wi (http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e88833014e5f7f1d27970c-pi):woot:

[Armistead]

Does anyone else use thermals?

only when it's cold...

[ikalugin]

only when it's cold...
In my experience thermals work even in summer, and they are quite useful, especially for the detection of your prey.

[Jimbuna]

Does anyone else use thermals?

Thermals are for cissies, best wear a pair of tights...a lot less cumbersome.

[ikalugin]

Thermals are for cissies, best wear a pair of tights...a lot less cumbersome.
I think I should clarify.

By thermals I mean Thermal Imaging scope.

Clothing wise I wear what seems fashionable at the moment - ie Sitka Gear, though I do frequent a number of other brands.

[Eichhörnchen]

Don't spoil it now, Ikalugin: thermal underwear is a comedy staple in the West...:up:

[Dread Knot]

Don't spoil it now, Ikalugin: thermal underwear is a comedy staple in the West...:up:

When I wear my thermals, the animals come from miles around to gawk, hoot and laugh.

Then, in a fit of rage I open fire. :Kaleun_Mad:

http://thermalunderwearmen.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ad-260x300.jpg

Happy Hunting!

[ikalugin]

Well, doesn't everyone nowadays use synthetic thermal underware on the lines of:
http://www.sitkagear.com/products/big-game/next-to-skin/core-crew

[Aktungbby]

Don't spoil it now, Ikalugin: thermal underwear is a comedy staple in the West...:up:

When I wear my thermals, the animals come from miles around to gawk, hoot and laugh.

Then, in a fit of rage I open fire. :Kaleun_Mad:

http://thermalunderwearmen.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ad-260x300.jpg

Happy Hunting!
Indeed: required equipment for (REb:up:) civil war reenactors http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/media/001737/001737_03.jpgnuthin good goes outta style BBY-currently $59 at LL BEAN:up::03:http://www.underwearexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LL-Bean-union-suits-copy.jpg?dd29f1

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/ZuGdh5m.jpg?1

Thermals were a little bit hit'n miss in the old days. What do you think the guy behind is thinking: "Shall I ask? Can I get away if it goes bad?"

[Jimbuna]

I think I should clarify.

By thermals I mean Thermal Imaging scope.

Clothing wise I wear what seems fashionable at the moment - ie Sitka Gear, though I do frequent a number of other brands.

Here was me thinking people were admitting in public to what clothing fetishes they had :doh::oops:

[Eichhörnchen]

Saw a squirrel running away from me....6 shots later it was dead.

http://i.imgur.com/TrbmjdL.png?1

"We'll see about that..."