43 students in Mexico are missing

[Cybermat47]

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29631959

This is just plain disturbing. any government that lets this sort of thing go on is more dangerous to the people than an invading army!

[Feuer Frei!]

We have 1 side of the story.

We also have Drug Cartels in Mexico.

We also have Mexican Police widening the search for the missing students.

We also have a mass grave o/s Iguala which was discovered last weekend with 28 sets of human remains which aren't that of the students.

More will be found.

With that bbc story you linked there's not much point in commenting and assuming that the Police and Government have the Drug Cartels in check.

Because they don't.

You say it's disturbing (and i assume you are surprised and disappointed) that a government would let this sort of thing happen?

Drug Cartels. That's why this sort of 'thing' happens.

Often governments are in cahoots with Drug Cartels for fear of having family members killed. And it's big business. Getting a percentage of the drug trafficking.

Same goes for Police.

Really nothing surprising to be honest.

[Betonov]

And the thing that local police commanders are more like dictators inside a country with their own army than a part of a national police force.

There were clashes with the police, they were rounded up and sold to cartels and then forced into prostitution/drug mules. (theory) :nope:

[Cybermat47]

With that bbc story you linked there's not much point in commenting and assuming that the Police and Government have the Drug Cartels in check.

Because they don't.


I never assumed that anyone had the cartels in check. If they did, Mexico wouldn't be suffering so much.


You say it's disturbing (and i assume you are surprised and disappointed) that a government would let this sort of thing happen?

Drug Cartels. That's why this sort of 'thing' happens.

Often governments are in cahoots with Drug Cartels for fear of having family members killed. And it's big business. Getting a percentage of the drug trafficking.

Same goes for Police.

Really nothing surprising to be honest.

I can't say I'm surprised that this happened. In a way, that's the most disturbing thing.

Here's another article I found:

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29624801

Good to see that not all Mexican Police are corrupt, and that the corrupt ones are being punished.

What's not good to see is mass graves around the place.

[Feuer Frei!]

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More graves will be found when it comes to light that the Police are in with the local cartel.

That is seeming inevitable.

[Cybermat47]

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I just realised that myself :oops:



More graves will be found when it comes to light that the Police are in with the local cartel.

That is seeming inevitable.

Sadly, I have to agree with you :nope:

[Jimbuna]

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[Cybermat47]

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Much appreciated :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Much appreciated :salute:

No bother :03:

[CaptainRamius]

It IS Mexico, so...
I guess there is a reason behind that.
-CaptainRamius :salute:

[Armistead]

Hard to believe we have a 3rd world nation in most respects right beside us.

[Dread Knot]

Hard to believe we have a 3rd world nation in most respects right beside us.

Why does that surprise you? It's the multi-billion dollar American drug habit that fuels the cartels. And traffickers don't have a political or religious ideology like al Qaeda so it's never gonna get the attention it deserves.

[Cybermat47]

...
And traffickers don't have a political or religious ideology like al Qaeda so it's never gonna get the attention it deserves.

Wait, so simply being responsible for hundreds of deaths and the ruination of a country isn't enough to get noticed anymore? You've also got to spew extremist ideals?

Kind of suggests that this sort of thing is so widespread that most people are used to it...

[Sailor Steve]

You've also got to spew extremist ideals?
What did he say that's extremist?

And he's right. The drug cartels don't make videos of executions, and like most criminal organizations try to keep a low profile. This means they don't get mentioned in the news every day, and people tend to think about them less than they do the groups who want the headlines.

[u crank]

Hard to believe we have a 3rd world nation in most respects right beside us.

Stop picking on Canada will ya. We're doin' the best we can.:O:

[Cybermat47]

What did he say that's extremist?


Nothing, I agree 100% with him.


When I said 'you' I meant in the sense... I don't know the term for it, but by essentially I was using 'you' to refer to people like the cartels and al Qaeda, not him.


This would make more sense if I knew the term for the sense I was using it in..


Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

Ah. Now that you've explained it I see what you were going for. I am glad I asked, though, since I might not have been the only one who misunderstood.

Also, now that I understand, I think it's a good point. :sunny:

[Platapus]

Did this take place in Mexico or New Mexico. It sounds like something that would happen here.

[donna52522]

Mexico, if it happened in the USA there would be no-stop news coverage.

[Feuer Frei!]

Did this take place in Mexico or New Mexico. It sounds like something that would happen here.

Well, Iguala is in Guerrero, which is a state of Mexico.

And while i'm at it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-29669115

[Jimbuna]

He added that 36 police officers and 27 members of Guerreros Unidos had already been arrested.

The mayor of Iguala, Jose Luis Abarca, is also being sought by police on organised crime charges along with his police chief.

Corruption from top to bottom.