View Full Version : How the USA destroys its own IT business
Catfish
08-05-14, 11:22 AM
.. and the rest of the world's as well:
only in german:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kommentar-Wie-die-USA-ihre-IT-Wirtschaft-zerstoeren-2283109.html
Quintessence is, a US court has decided that any Internet and cloud information that is stored, belongs to the US.
Yes, you read that right.
Microsoft has announced protest against the verdict, but any company worldwide will have to observe closely what happens next.
This is not peaceful hegemony anymore.
I guess the next move will be that China demands access to all data, that are stored on their hardware ?
In case of doubt, the highness on confidential data lies in the hands of a US court. Any municipal administration and medium-sized businesses should know this, when a meeting between salesmen from Microsoft, Google, Apple, Oracle, Cisco, IBM and so on, is pending.
Not in anglo-saxon countries of course, this is all done for the greater good and perfectly ok :03:
I see a new worldwide net and new operating systems grow, in the next years. Non-US, of course .. :hmmm:
Aktungbby
08-05-14, 11:35 AM
"Peaceful Hegemony" is an oxymoron! From the Delian League through the Hanse, the British Commonwealth to NATO and the Soviet Bloc...It may begin well; it always ends badly:/\\!!
Catfish
08-05-14, 12:12 PM
"Peaceful Hegemony" is an oxymoron! From the Delian League through the Hanse, the British Commonwealth to NATO and the Soviet Bloc...It may begin well; it always ends badly:/\\!!
Hey, i'm not an oxthings moron :stare:
:O:
I used the term 'peaceful hegemony' with full intent :03:
Aktungbby
08-05-14, 01:20 PM
I used the term 'peaceful hegemony' with full intent :03:
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" Sooner or later all peaceful hegemonies 'go south' on ya! :rotfl2: http://www.weirdus.com/states/utah/stories/route_666/1_small.jpgPics or it doesn't happen?:-?
Wolferz
08-05-14, 07:29 PM
All your cloud are belong to us.
:O:
Skybird
08-06-14, 03:09 AM
The arrogance of power.
Complain about it, and you are accused of "anti-Americanism".
"Es geht darum, wer die Information kontrolliert, nicht wo sie liegt", begründete die Richterin ihre Entscheidung – ein Satz, den sich Unternehmen, Behörden und auch Privatpersonen gut merken sollten.
The same arrogance of power we see in the way the Us simply have said they refuse to obey a German demand to withdraw all their nuclear weapons from German (sovereign :haha: ) soil. They now even modernise them.
We all are vassal, and our homecountries are only American provinces. And when this makes some of us critical (= anti-american), then we "envy America". Envy for what? Arrogance of power?
On a sideline, in certain, critical key areas of German government administration, the Germans follow the Russian example from some months earlier: they have ordered a - by today's standard - big quantity of mechanical typewriters. The few companies still building these or electric typewriters (not many are left), recently said their orders all of a sudden have raised by several hundred percent.
Wolferz
08-06-14, 04:27 AM
:up:The arrogance of power.
Complain about it, and you are accused of "anti-Americanism".
"Es geht darum, wer die Information kontrolliert, nicht wo sie liegt", begründete die Richterin ihre Entscheidung – ein Satz, den sich Unternehmen, Behörden und auch Privatpersonen gut merken sollten.
The same arrogance of power we see in the way the Us simply have said they refuse to obey a German demand to withdraw all their nuclear weapons from German (sovereign :haha: ) soil. They now even modernise them.
We all are vassal, and our homecountries are only American provinces. And when this makes some of us critical (= anti-american), then we "envy America". Envy for what? Arrogance of power?
On a sideline, in certain, critical key areas of German government administration, the Germans follow the Russian example from some months earlier: they have ordered a - by today's standard - big quantity of mechanical typewriters. The few companies still building these or electric typewriters (not many are left), recently said their orders all of a sudden have raised by several hundred percent.
Why not pull the plug on your internet connection? A simple, elegant solution staring right at you. Yes?
Your business and government can easily isolate data to in house servers or clouds.
Skybird
08-06-14, 04:43 AM
Rhetorics. Always handy if one gets accused of something, but has no argument to return.
And inhouse servers and clouds are no solution either. The NSA nowadays practically infiltrates each and every system. The US superior chief of secret services some months ago before a committee had to admit that so far the immense increase of the intel services so far has not lead to a single terror strike on the US getting thwarted. What the whole increase is about, is business and industrial espionage, and control, of German/foreign governments.
Economically, big companies cannot survive anyway if cutting all wires, their customer network would collapse immediately. Plus then human infiltration will be tried against such isolated companies.
For governments, "transparancy" never means transparency of political decisions and contracts, it always is about even more transparent, defenceless citizens. Or should I say: subjects.
Skybird
08-06-14, 04:45 AM
Hm, not sure anymore whether you indeed meant to be sarcastic, or serious. Sorry if you were the latter, I take back what I said on rhetorics then.
Jimbuna
08-06-14, 05:19 AM
On a sideline, in certain, critical key areas of German government administration, the Germans follow the Russian example from some months earlier: they have ordered a - by today's standard - big quantity of mechanical typewriters. The few companies still building these or electric typewriters (not many are left), recently said their orders all of a sudden have raised by several hundred percent.
Probably the most effective countermeasure and one I should imagine many governments are starting to take into consideration.
Dread Knot
08-06-14, 08:12 AM
Back to the Typosphere! :D
Another item gaining in popularity is the "air-gapped computer". Basically a stand-alone computer with no internet connection or media ports. Often built by the owner with hand-picked components. Of course, take away all the network connections and physical media ports, on top of internet connectivity, and you’re basically left with a glorified typewriter. But at least you can play Silent Hunter without someone knowing how many hours you logged.
Catfish
08-06-14, 02:31 PM
Back to the Typosphere! :D
... the "air-gapped computer". Basically a stand-alone computer with no internet connection or media ports. Often built by the owner with hand-picked components. Of course, take away all the network connections and physical media ports, on top of internet connectivity, and you’re basically left with a glorified typewriter. But at least you can play Silent Hunter without someone knowing how many hours you logged.
You would be astonished, of what is possible today with directional detectors. Any click on your keyboard sends out a low-volt impulse ..
Of course, the eavesdropping will be a bit more .. complex (read: costly) :03:
Nippelspanner
08-06-14, 03:47 PM
I don't like where this is going...
Dread Knot
08-06-14, 04:13 PM
You would be astonished, of what is possible today with directional detectors. Any click on your keyboard sends out a low-volt impulse ..
Of course, the eavesdropping will be a bit more .. complex (read: costly) :03:
Well, there is trying to avoid the metadata dragnet and then there is being under the microscope. If under the microscope, then maybe it's time to move to a nice cave in Kamchatka. :D
You would be astonished, of what is possible today with directional detectors. Any click on your keyboard sends out a low-volt impulse ..
Old news. We were warned about this back in the 1970's. SOP was to only operate our teletype machines with the commo hut door shut to block those signals. Teletype!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/30/article-0-14BF87D3000005DC-829_634x482.jpg
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