Recently Reinstalled SH5 Now I have Questions

[Leon West]

So, I installed SH4 awhile back as I was hoping to get going on a really good American career, and so I did. Had some good fun, but then I realized I was itching to get back into some Atlantic action, so I went over and installed SH5 and the awesome Wolves of Steel Megamod pack...but here's the issue for me...

I am in no way good at math. Completely utterly, hopelessly bad and useless at math. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I will admit it. I almost have to count on my fingers simple addition and subtraction. Multiplication and division...let's not even go into that.

So manual targeting, numbers, angles on bow, some guys get it and tell me it's simple. That's great. But after countless hours of reading every single printed tutorial on manual targeting on the different generations of the SH series, I'm just happy with auto targeting. I basically said, forget it, when it comes to manual targeting. If I was a real sub captain, maybe it would be different...but honestly, I'd just as soon tell my Weapons Officer to figure it out. My concern is maneuvering the ship and keeping everyone alive. Not hitting targets.

Anyways, so near as I can tell Auto targeting has been removed from the Wolves of Steel mod to increase realism. But for guys like me (as few as there is :/\\k: ) who still enjoy auto targeting, is there a way to use it?

I have manual targeting shut off in my game options, and when I press spacebar my scope will lock targets and I will get the triangle, but whenever I fire a torp, it will miss. I can't seem to get the minimap in the scope to line up the numbers as was vanilla SH5's way of auto targeting so I'm a bit confused. I thought at first that since the minimap and it's aiming system was gone, maybe it had gone back to SH4's style of auto targeting which is based on the triangle color. Four torps fired at a green triangle all missed. No solution.

So, guys, any help on this? Am I completely screwed, or can I get back my auto targeting abilities?

Thanks in advance

[Sailor Steve]

I can't help, since I can't run SH5 at all, but I wanted you to know you're not alone in the math-challenged department. I'm real good at counting on my fingers, and that's about it. I really like SH3 for having the WE to help me. In SH4 I have to go full-auto and look at the stupid triangles. I feel your pain. :dead:

[Leon West]

I can't help, since I can't run SH5 at all, but I wanted you to know you're not alone in the math-challenged department. I'm real good at counting on my fingers, and that's about it. I really like SH3 for having the WE to help me. In SH4 I have to go full-auto and look at the stupid triangles. I feel your pain. :dead:

Well it's nice to know I'm not alone in this world. Almost everyone I know, my father, my wife, best friends, ect ect all seem to think math is outstandingly easy and they can bust out solutions in their heads while I'm still punching numbers into my cellphone's calculator.

But I learned something as I saw a pattern develop. Tell me Steve, of your friends who can do math better, how many of them can spell as nicely as you? How many of them read through a page as quickly as you can read through it? Just by looking at your post I can tell you're a strong reader and writer. You actually bothered with commas and apostrophes and periods. You have the proper use of the contraction "you're."

Most internet posts are not near as nice. I'm happy to say about 97% of Subsim is wonderful at writing coherent posts and seems to be the exception to the rule on the big ol' interweb, but look at any other forum on the 'net and you'll see what I mean.

Anyways, point being, my wife is wonderful at math, yet she asks me how to spell words all the time. My father is even better at math than my wife, yet he suffers from dyslexia. Most of my friends who can run up a complex solution in their heads, cannot read as quickly or as clearly as I can.

It's strange but it seems to me that people's brains are geared for one or the other. But these are just a few examples I have and I'm sure there's tons of people who can disprove me and are exceptions :know:

Anyways, back on topic, I did discover how to auto target whilst using the Wolves of Steel mod, if anyone still needs to know.

It goes back to an old topic I found after an hour and a half of searching. Basically in Vanilla SH5 people figured out that if you locked a target in your periscope with the spacebar key, numbers appeared on the course of the ship in question, along with a numbered sight cone representing your periscope's view angle. The way to send a fish into the side of your target? Connect the dots. Basically align the numbers. 1 was close range, 2 was medium, and 3 was long range. If you could get both 2's to line up (on the target's path and your sight cone) you were gonna land a shot.

The system was not well received by many of the captain's who had made the leap to SH5 from the legends in the series (mainly Silent Hunter 3 and a few from SH4) who I will have to admit, had a much better system.

However a few other captains stuck with SH5, but were so disgusted with the "connect the dots" system, that they discovered a way to auto target without having to look at their hated numbered line on a tactical map in the corner.

The solution? Simple. Align your target in the pericope and press spacebar to lock it. A torpedo firing solution is calculated. Press spacebar again to unlock your target, but aim your periscope at a point on the ship you'd like to hit. When you're aligned with what you feel is the best impact point, fire your fish and watch it glide effortlessly into the target.

I'd say this method of auto aim is pretty successful. I've done some 3,000 meter shots this way. However, it's not completely fire and forget, as I have had some misses due to some outstanding look-outs who got their ship's captain to do some zig-zags just in time, and of course every Kaleun's bane, dud torpedoes.

So there's my novella. Thanks again Steve for taking the time to reply!

Hopefully what I was able to discover after some extensive searching of topics here will be helpful to others. :salute:

[Captain_AJ]

HI leon iam also very bad at math , however to learn how to shoot and do all the other crazy stuff @ 100% realisum has taken me me alot of time , sometimes I forget how to manuel target so I go back to favorite libary of videos ,, Stoinams Videos .. all the how toos are there . A famous basket ball player in the US . said this I have maybe hit 600 goals in basket , but no-one knows how many othetr baskets I missed ( Micheal Jordan , said this ) . The same applies here . It takes patenice and re- doing it over and over again . We have all our likes and dislikes , but playing at a lower level well irs just crazy for me at least ... knowing certain things always applies for the most part in shooting ships . for an example a mechant going 7 knts and a 90 angle from my boat will always have the manule target setting at 350 , starboard 90. and 5-7 knts .and up 2500 meters in range , when his bow hits my crosshair at 350 . degress and the ship is going from east to west .. Thats a kill for sure .. Hitting baskets .. have fun

[THEBERBSTER]

Have you tried this for a simple way in to manual TDC?

Position yourself 90 degrees to the target.

Draw a line from the target past your sub.

This is the targets course.

Take the protractor from the centre of your sub and draw it out 70 degrees on to the targets course line.

Take the ruler and from the centre of your sub place it on top of the protractor on the targets course line.

Look at the subs compass (or place on the lines) where these 2 lines pass through it and this will give you the periscope bearing.

If you have already done the 3 minute targets speed.

You now have.

Speed

AOB

Range

Bearing to target.

Enter the data in the TDC

Identify the target and send the mast height to the TDC.

Lock the periscope on the bearing you have.

With SH4 as soon as the target is on the periscope bearing press the PK.

With SH5 I have’nt played for a few weeks make sure the target is locked and you should have a 70 to 90 degree firing angle.

If the target changes position it is easy to adjust the lines as these will normally be minimal changes.

Stadimeter does not need to be used.

Check the periscope bearing again.

There maybe some slight differences in the order between SH4 - SH5 but you should get what I am trying to say.