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Armistead
06-10-14, 12:32 PM
{I used arse instead of ass, because sometimes I'm not sure if we can say ass here, even though I see it used a lot}

Anyway, a thread for those badarses that blow your mind with their bravery, craziness or outright stupidity...

I saw a FB post on this Badarse and thought I would start a thread. I never read about him, probably because he's a Brit.
Jack Churchill


http://badassoftheweek.com/churchill-goodphoto.bmp

http://badassoftheweek.com/churchill.html

"In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed".

Not only did he carry it, he often used it to kill Germans. He also carried a longbow and is credited with the only longbow kill of the war...

Feel free to post any badarse stories you know about...

Tango589
06-10-14, 12:50 PM
This is a fantastic site, thanks for pointing me towards it!:salute:

BTW, your spelling of 'Bad-arse' is the correct British spelling, as opposed to your American 'Bad-ass' which is essentially a naughty donkey.

Tribesman
06-10-14, 01:15 PM
Anders Lassen VC. MC+2 bars
Possibly in the Bad arse category.

one of those people who are quite fearless and also, at times, quite ruthless, a potential berserker. A truly heroic figure in the Iliadic sense, the sheer force of his personality meant that uneducated Greeks could usually understand him, even though he spoke only a few words of their language. This struck me quite strongly during the hours I was with him. He was tall and blonde and intrepid-looking, but the Nazi occupation of Denmark had made him a bit unbalanced in certain respects. Thus it was that while he and his sergeant were going through the small rooms of the German and Italian barrack-building outside Phira, a couple of nights before, Lassen had orders his companions to wake up the sleeping enemy soldiers before cutting their throats, so that they should know what was happening to them. The sergeant had refused. Nothing was said at the time, but when I met up with the party at the Perissa monastery Lassen was insisting on putting his sergeant on a charge for disobeying orders.

Your Longbow bit brought him to mind as if I recall correctly he used a crossbow at times.

Hey your link has a local girl on it.
Gráinne Ní Mháille the pirate queen of Connacht

Sailor Steve
06-10-14, 02:20 PM
{I used arse instead of ass, because sometimes I'm not sure if we can say ass here, even though I see it used a lot}
Simple rule of thumb: If the language bot lets it go then it's okay to use. If not, then don't use it or try to get around it. I'm old enough to remember when "hell" and "damn" were edited in books and not used on television at all.

...as opposed to your American 'Bad-ass' which is essentially a naughty donkey.
It makes me think of certain digestive problems. Now you know why I don't use either version. :O:

vienna
06-10-14, 02:25 PM
Is this allowed?...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKF8YxWWhI4


<O>

TarJak
06-10-14, 04:57 PM
I saw the title of this thread and thought Wolferz had lost his tube of Preparation H.

Cybermat47
06-10-14, 05:44 PM
Look at my signature. That's what the memorial to the most badass people ever says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE43XYKZzH8

THEBERBSTER
06-10-14, 06:32 PM
{I used arse instead of ass, because sometimes I'm not sure if we can say ass here, even though I see it used a lot}

You still said it :haha:

Wolferz
06-11-14, 07:38 PM
I saw the title of this thread and thought Wolferz had lost his tube of Preparation H.

:haha: I ain't gots no rhoids.:stare: At least none that Armistead would know about.:O:

Admiral Halsey
06-11-14, 07:48 PM
I'll just leave this here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

TarJak
06-11-14, 08:11 PM
Hi there grumpy. :D

swamprat69er
06-11-14, 08:47 PM
:haha: I ain't gots no rhoids.:stare: At least none that Armistead would know about.:O:
If you gots kids, then you got hemorrhoids.:D

swamprat69er
06-11-14, 08:49 PM
You want Bad arse? Why was my account not locked down like I asked?
:stare:

I'm tempted to explain my reasons for requesting such an action.
Those reasons would result in a keelhull no doubt.
I will say it here.
Shut down my account or I will force you to!

First and last warning before I go all nut case!
KeelHulled once. Can do it again!

Who peed in your cornflakes?

Admiral Halsey
06-11-14, 08:57 PM
You want Bad arse? Why was my account not locked down like I asked?
:stare:

I'm tempted to explain my reasons for requesting such an action.
Those reasons would result in a keelhull no doubt.
I will say it here.
Shut down my account or I will force you to!

First and last warning before I go all nut case!
KeelHulled once. Can do it again!

Well you never said you wanted it closed down in what was supposed to be your last post.(Unless you PMed it.) Also isn't there a policy of not shutting down non-spam accounts unless they're spam in case the owners of the accounts return?

Stealhead
06-11-14, 09:29 PM
Look at my signature. That's what the memorial to the most badass people ever says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE43XYKZzH8

Yeah that is a a movie and the idea that only 300 Spartans alone where at Thermopylae is well a myth there where around 5,200 total Greeks or 7,400 depending on which Greek historian you read.The final day was a delaying action.

Even in the last day at least 700 Thespians stayed to fight along side the Spartans.

I agree that the Spartans where the best hoplites pound for pound in Ancient Greece but there is a bit too much legend surrounding them that is taken as truth.

I think the real Spartans would think that the movie 300 as some sort of insult they did not fight like that at all.

Soldiers and Marines in Korea did the same thing Spartans "did" nearly all the time sometimes only one or two men staying behind to allow their allies to retreat sometimes facing hundreds of Chinese now that takes balls because more than likely you are not going to survive but you comrades will.How many of those guys have you heard of?

A real certifiable badarse hands down Alexander the Great.

Red October1984
06-11-14, 09:44 PM
Badass(arse?)

The SEALs involved in Operation Red Wings.

Cybermat47
06-11-14, 11:22 PM
Yeah that is a a movie and the idea that only 300 Spartans alone where at Thermopylae is well a myth there where around 5,200 total Greeks or 7,400 depending on which Greek historian you read.The final day was a delaying action.

Even in the last day at least 700 Thespians stayed to fight along side the Spartans.

I agree that the Spartans where the best hoplites pound for pound in Ancient Greece but there is a bit too much legend surrounding them that is taken as truth.

I think the real Spartans would think that the movie 300 as some sort of insult they did not fight like that at all.

Soldiers and Marines in Korea did the same thing Spartans "did" nearly all the time sometimes only one or two men staying behind to allow their allies to retreat sometimes facing hundreds of Chinese now that takes balls because more than likely you are not going to survive but you comrades will.How many of those guys have you heard of?

A real certifiable badarse hands down Alexander the Great.

Yeah, I know about all the other Greeks at Thermopylae, and the 700 Thespians, 400 Thebans, and unknown number of Perioikoi Spartans (free non-citizens), but it was the Spartans who were really badass. 'Molon Labe', 'Then we will fight in the shade', and 'Tonight, we dine in Hades' were all said by the Spartans. But yeah, a lot of the legends about them are seen as true, which is pretty annoying.

And yeah, the Spartan Phalanx style of fighting isn't shown that much in 300, which is a shame.

I haven't heard of any US troops staying behind to fight hundreds of Chinese in Korea, but I'll definitely look that up now.

Oberon
06-12-14, 12:12 AM
ye want balls, go to Poland.

No, not Polandball.

Battle of Wizna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna)

720 men vs 42,200 men plus 350 tanks, over 600 mortars and artillery and aerial support.

Modern day Spartans.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Wladyslaw_Raginis.jpg/220px-Wladyslaw_Raginis.jpg
Wladyslaw Raginis

Never underestimate the Polish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPPQI2Nr3wY

Stealhead
06-12-14, 01:23 AM
I haven't heard of any US troops staying behind to fight hundreds of Chinese in Korea, but I'll definitely look that up now.

Several Korean War era Medal of Honor recipients did so as part of the action for which they where rewarded.I am fairly certain that Commonwealth troops did the same thing in Korea and other wars.

Here is one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_L._Bennett

and another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_R._Christianson

Such actions where not uncommon in Korea after it became more or less static.

Ironically the Spartan ideal was in the end their downfall their system meant a few very elite fighters and few citizens as well (you had to have pure blood).The other thing is they did not trust outsiders so they did not record much of anything about internal affairs so no one really knows for sure how they ran things.

Oberon
06-12-14, 06:02 AM
Several Korean War era Medal of Honor recipients did so as part of the action for which they where rewarded.I am fairly certain that Commonwealth troops did the same thing in Korea and other wars.

Here is one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_L._Bennett

and another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_R._Christianson

Such actions where not uncommon in Korea after it became more or less static.

Ironically the Spartan ideal was in the end their downfall their system meant a few very elite fighters and few citizens as well (you had to have pure blood).The other thing is they did not trust outsiders so they did not record much of anything about internal affairs so no one really knows for sure how they ran things.

I think Imjin River was one of the bigger engagements for the Commonwealth forces, as Chosun was for the US. The fall-back to the 53rd parallel after the Chinese got involved saw a lot of heroic last stands as individual groups were surrounded and overrun by Chinese forces.

Stealhead
06-12-14, 05:17 PM
Sad thing is in all wars people perform heroic selfless deeds but never get noticed for it for one reason or another.

Stealhead
06-12-14, 09:06 PM
LRRP in Vietnam course I might be slightly biased this is what my father did in Vietnam. Of course I have never seen him back down from anything in my life so perhaps justified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flNkBk82f0Y

The guys that flew Dustoff in Vietnam now that is real BA. No weapons and you are flying a Huey into hot steel a guy I worked with flew Dustoff in Vietnam in one day he was shot down five times :o that did not stop him or his crew from going back and hopping into another Huey to go pick up more wounded.To face combat when you can not fight back now that is freaking brave.

Oberon
06-12-14, 09:34 PM
Aye, those men must have brought hope to many a wounded GIs heart, seeing them swooping in like guardian angels. The Huey is a tough bird but I think the Dust-off pilots balls were tougher. :yep: Even so, they had the highest rate of helo losses in Vietnam, 3.3 times higher than the other chopper pilots.

http://mytroubledskies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Dustoff-Helicopter-Front-View-Loading.jpg

Jimbuna
06-13-14, 07:05 AM
Most definitely...a real bullit magnet :yep:

Armistead
06-13-14, 05:35 PM
Jack Russel vs. Cobra.

I know many govts around the world train Jacks to hunt snakes, shipping yards, crates, planes, etc... I use to run tunnels with them...This one appears to be trained, although title doesn't say it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQKIoTXQOs

TarJak
06-13-14, 07:28 PM
There's badarse and then there's just plain crazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EboT9KiTrY

Stealhead
06-13-14, 09:42 PM
Most definitely...a real bullit magnet :yep:

Indeed and not particularly fast either they topped out around 120 knots and that was in ideal trim loaded down with troops or gear you are talking 90 maybe 95 knots tops and a slow rate of acceleration.

The "hog" gunship models where the slowest I watched a series of 8mm films with a voice over by the pilot he said the B model loaded with guns and rockets and 4 crewmen on a really humid day 85 was all you could get.It was pretty much watch your rounds go in and watch theirs come up at you.

Ironic when you consider that the AH-1 Cobra is the same airframe from the engine bay back and it could easily pull 200 knots more in a dive.Of course they had a much thinner nose maybe 4 feet across.

Most Dust Off where D or H models so they where a bit faster sans the two door gunner M60s and ammo.

I heard at Tong Sung Nut AB in Saigon there was a dump where the Huey hulks where stored they where stacked 4 or 5 high.

Some say it was a bad design due to being a bullet magnet and its bulk but for the available technology at the time it was a good design an Mil Mi-8 Hip it just as juicy a target as is an Mil Mi 4 or any helio for that matter.

Sailor Steve
06-14-14, 10:13 AM
Some say it was a bad design due to being a bullet magnet...
I would argue that any aircraft given the mission of flying very low and very slow into enemy territory is going to be a bullet magnet.

...and its bulk...
The Iroquois was designed mainly as a light troop carrier. The bulk was necessary to fulfill that role. That it performed so many other tasks so well is a credit to the original design, as well as the ingenuity and bravery of the men who did those jobs.