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laurencius
06-03-14, 03:15 PM
I sailed into Scapa Flow during daylight, but with some medium fog on my side. I detected three destroyers, but also a lot of fat juicy targets. I sank three ships, but the destroyers never actively came looking for me. I would have been an easy kill in that shallow water.

Next time I'm off the boat I will have to try enabling TDW's AI mod. How hard is it with that mod?

Sailor Steve
06-03-14, 04:17 PM
It's a very old and well-known bug that stock escorts are seemingly unaware of your existence. You really do need to use one of the mods that affect the AI. TDW's are among the best.

Webster
06-03-14, 05:00 PM
its part of where they dumbed the game down to boring levels so its so easy any kid can play without even learning the game.

as steve said, you HAVE TO use an AI mod just so the game is playable and not a joke

7Infanterie19
06-03-14, 07:06 PM
laurencius, heed their advice. These two will never steer ya wrong. Once you go modded, you'll shake your head and wonder why you waited. :up:

Volkier
06-13-14, 04:24 PM
On the subject of AI, has anyone ever actually had an aircraft spot and attack them? I remember having to dive every time one was spotted in SH3 and 4, as they sometimes would spot me even if I"m at periscope depth, or alternatively, flank speed ahead in a zig zag pattern while having the flak guns try to bring them down - as they usually came back for a few more passes if I evaded them. I've come to simply ignore them, clicking the "travel mode" and speeding timewarp back up in SH5 - since they don't seem to see, engage or pay any attention to me whatsoever. Does the TDW mod address aircraft AI as well?

Defiance
06-13-14, 05:32 PM
Hiya,

If you're using tdw's generic patcher then cv's will indeed attack with planes

Irai and the patcher releases a world of hurt :haha:

He video'ed a aerial dogfight he happened upon, dunno if the vids around or if he even uploaded it

He made a test mission for the cv launching planes, i think they launch torps bombs and fighters (someone will know, i got damaged pretty quick) so of course it's amazing having this in the game

Steam users can't use the patcher, need a 'normal' .exe to patch (just in case you're a steam user)

The patcher fixes so many things, well worth the cost of a river dvd :D (use subsim top right of page ;) )

I've just got pounced on by 2 fighters, looked like hurricanes to me, still repairing scope lol

The fighter bombers tend to rip your hull apart lmao after damaging scopes deck gun and umpteen essential goodies inside the boat

If you can install the patcher and Irai, sit back and get the thrill/thrashing of your sub career :yep:

7Infanterie19
06-13-14, 07:12 PM
Welcome to Subsim Volkier! :up:

Here's a post I made about plane activity I encountered using the mods Defiance suggested. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2212420&postcount=2232

That post isn't meant to scare you away, but just to let you know that sometimes we need to watch what we ask for. hehehe :ping:


Irai and the patcher releases a world of hurt :haha:


:Kaleun_Crying:


I've just got pounced on by 2 fighters, looked like hurricanes to me, still repairing scope lol

I take it you ordered that new shipment of scopes on time. hehehe! :D

Defiance
06-14-14, 02:11 AM
I think carl zeiss have run out of scope lenses lol

I can't imagine how dull it would be going back to stock ai that's for sure

Years ago when any ai options came out i jumped on them

Thing is though things have changed, then i would fear the ships but not the planes, now it's reversed, i fear the planes way more than ships :rotfl2:

To Volkier

If you're able do the patcher and files viewer (viewer takes away the text editing side of things) you won't regret it (or will you ! ) hehe

:salute: