Who / What / Where Game

[Catfish]

:hmmm: well.....if it's not the Zambezi....and it wasn't a lake 'afaik':(Tanganika?)than it must be some other important East Arican river Von Vorbeck had to travel on to keep the British occupied....:timeout:
No idea whether von Lettow-Vorbeck ever used it, or any of his troops. There sure is no notice to be found.. any Askaris belonging to the "Schutztruppe" would have been considered as "troops"; whether they played an active role in Vorbeck's guerilla wars.. no idea.

Hint 1: There is a higher plateau in today's Tanzania, that some german airship intended to reach and supply Lettow-Vorbeck's troops, but there also is a wider depression/valley in this area where the river flows, which waters this Heckraddampfer stirred up.
The ship started its journeys at Daressalaam and on the Rufiji river, but it was also used elsewhere.

Hint 2: The river the ship sailed on and is named after, also bears a second name

OT: General overview, after war was being declared by England, german governor Mr Schnee of Deutsch-Ostafrika was dumbstruck. The german colony was all prepared to host festivities and an international fair and exchange of technology and goods together with the neighbouring english colonies; he and the colony was completely ill-prepared to wage war.
Since there had been international treaties by the leading western nations to not attack each other in the colonies in case of a war (to not give the natives give ideas or any doubt of this civilised and peaceful "superiority" of the white races), he expected the war not to come to Africa.
It became soon clear that Belgium and England would not hold back though, and when Lettow-Vorbeck insisted to defend Deutsch-Ostafrika with his police forces Schnee was in a checkmate position. He had tried to clear the situation with diplomacy and negotiations, but when english troops tried to take Daressalaam by force, he gave in to Lettow-Vorbeck.

Governor Schnee is said to have used the steamer in question, in the first months of this "war", on the Rufiji river.

[Aktungbby]

there is a beautiful etching of a similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique on the bay there with the correct smokestake...is this Tanzanian river a dedicated RAMSAR site?

[Catfish]

there is a beautiful etching of a similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique on the bay there with the correct smokestake...is this Tanzanian river a dedicated RAMSAR site?
Not portuguese of course, but i have checked and this land is now a RAMSAR site indeed.

Edit: You should already have it, just post a name!
Edit 2: the second/other name of the river will do!! (As said before, name of the river is name of the ship)
Edit 3: Please post the picture or link of the "similar paddle wheeler used in Portuguese Mozambique"!

You will not easily find anything about the ship itself, this is what my wife calls my "arbitrary knowledge". It even had two paddle wheels, both at the stern. It also had a circular (buzz) saw installed near the boiler, to cut wood for heating the latter. It could be towed across land, and had a very shallow draft.
You will not find any of this on the 'web, just post a name..

[Aktungbby]

to clarify your statement: the river has more than one name or the steamer has had more than one name?EDIT: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/portuguese-steam-boat-in-delagoa-bay-mozambique-from-la-tribuna-no-6-picture-id929652874?s=594x594

[Catfish]

The river has two names, the steamer bears one of them. To name one of the river's names is enough to win (just decided so :))

The film "African Queen" also plays a role in it, while the geography in this film is all screwed up. Nothing to do with the Tanganjika lake. And we all know the real African Queen was of course the "Graf Goetzen", which was not a "gun boat" by any means (good old propaganda :03:)

[Aktungbby]

SS MALAGARASI-MUYOVOZI :O: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raddampfer https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/portuguese-steam-boat-in-delagoa-bay-mozambique-from-la-tribuna-no-6-picture-id929652874?s=594x594 <Portuguese Mozmbique This puzzle is a trip into the Heart of Darkness.:k_confused:

[Catfish]

No, it is not connected to lake Tanganjika ("African Queen" has it all wrong) .. so not the Malagarasi river. Think of another RAMSAR site..

[Aktungbby]

Does the river drain into the indian ocean?

[Catfish]

Not directly, first it flows into the Rufiji.
The river and a nearby one are filled to the brim with hippopotamuses (try to type that into an Enigma - alos in german the a$$ is called a Popo) :O:

[Aktungbby]

SS Groß Ruaha?:yeah: That's hippopotamii

[Catfish]

Nope! :k_confused:

[Aktungbby]

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:the Ullanga?https://www.kartonmodellshop.de/images/product_images/popup_images/heckraddampfer-ulanga-deutsch-ostafrika-1897-1250-inkl-lc-satz-deutsche-anleitung_17761.jpghttp://www.die-kartonmodellbauer.de/index.php?attachment/129716-ulanga-07-jpg/&thumbnail=1&6a9e84aahttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/F_VeMtxizgABOoFEl9zOW78WkPkvumc1NXmGcwVowq_XYBt9-xaia-IxB8vljtYbtgaBu4bu8xWI20HiZERh9bm3WbQOzj2DKJD_10aC ytBro_lF8pM2ZGeJ_w8yWwjAYNtjDZlPpA

[Catfish]

Yesss! :up: The »Ulanga« it is ! Built in 1897. Last sighted on the Rufiji river in 1917, its whereabouts are (is?) unknown.

Named after the Ulanga river (also called the Kilombero) further inland that flows into the Rufiji, coming from the rift valley NW of the Mahenge high plateau, being the only one to be suited for (flat-going) ships, as found out by expeditions from explorers Peters, Prittwitz and others.
(In the film "African Queen", the Ulanga river flows into the Bora, and from there to a "great lake" that was supposed to be the Tanganjika, but not in reality.)

The »Ulanga« was one of five almost equal stern wheelers built by the Meyer Werft in Papenburg (where the »Graf Goetzen« was also built). All were built for the african colonies, at least one of them (the »Soden«) was shipped to Cameroon.

The paddlewheelers consisted basically of 6 pontoons bolted together, and were shipped to the colonies in half (2x3 pontoons), on deck of the Woermann- or DOA-line or Hapag steamers.
They had a length of 26,7 meters (36,55 overall with the wheels) and a width of 6,75 meters.
They had a draft of 60 centimeters and two paddle wheels at the stern, being driven by a crank between them, which again was driven by a 120 hp double-expansion steam engine.

They could also be transported by train and dragged across land. Stern wheelers had the advantage of not being prone to damaging their wheels with snags or Hippopotamii (while Hippopotamuses is also correct!), also they could easily be refloated when running aground, by reversing the tail wheel's direction of turning, thus pumping water under the beached section of the bow and dragging them off the banks.

Hope the photos are visible:


https://i.imgur.com/AnhItAil.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/vyNldDGl.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/lXS6tnml.jpg


Most info can indeed be found at the card model builder's site Aktung posted photos from.
http://www.die-kartonmodellbauer.de/index.php?thread/611-heckraddampfer-ulanga-deutsch-ostafrika-1-250/
https://www.kartonbau.de/forum/thema/41079-ulanga-verlag-michael-bauer-1-250/
Both stern wheels can be seen on the pictured models.


OT here:
the etching of the belgian ship posted here by Aktung (thanks!) off Mozambique is probably a Cockerill-built steamer for the Congo river. Belgium and especially its king Leopold ran the belgian colonies as his private business in Africa, exploiting the resources with methods depicted in Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness", while killing the assumed number of 40. million. natives. in the process.
They were also the first to attack civilian german settlements at the Tanganjika lake coast, which was how some of the settlers even heard that there was a "war" going on somewhere else in the world.



Over to Aktungbby ! you really deserved it :yep:
:salute:

[Aktungbby]

Actually once I asked if it was Heckraddampfer, thus getting on the scent, it was simply hunting by RAMSAR with two river zones to narrow the gap:Kaleun_Wink: What's this munition? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11918

[d@rk51d3]

Looks tasty. :03:

[Catfish]

Looks like bitter-sweet civil war fruits, maybe a bit hard to bite..

[d@rk51d3]

Looks like bitter civil war fruits, maybe a bit hard to bite..

Can’t resist the little seed though.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like grapeshot.

[Aktungbby]

Looks tasty. :03:it is but is bitter fruit to thy enemies

Looks like bitter-sweet civil war fruits, maybe a bit hard to bite.. could be; 1860's candy is not my genre

Can’t resist the little seed though.Ye sow what ye reap:yep:

Looks like grapeshot. Curses! Foyled again!:O:
big hint: if yer doing it right this should be the result
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=10820:arrgh!:

[Catfish]

So a very special spherical grain, pressed from a powderlike substance ? :03:

[mapuc]

The picture made me remember a documentary on one of my nature channel. It was about a little animal who ate a special type of beans and people looked up their poops to make coffee of these beans

A very expensive coffee.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

So a very special spherical grain, pressed from a powderlike substance ? Nope...a traditional hard candy boiled down from a plant oil....if placed in water, it dissolves verrrry consistently!:hmmm: a critical factor in anyone's big bang theory:arrgh!:

[Catfish]

So it is indeed "Candy", something to eat :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

it can be partaken of orally. :Kaleun_Salivating:

[Jimbuna]

Aniseed balls?

[Aktungbby]

Well done ! Now what's it used in ...every 35 minutes or so? with a Woolworths bowel...and a condom? :D

[Catfish]

Jim said what it is, are there any more questions allowed?
Otherwise it's mine, and i'll be limping home with it :O:

Nah i take it Jim knows very well where/what for it was used.

[Aktungbby]

Indeed Jimbo has led U 2 the promised land. The limpet mine was cobbled together from cheap parts and the sweetshops raided for aniseed balls which uniformly dissolve in water in 35 minutes; allowing the saboteur to escape. The item was mentioned in this week's episode of Foyles War a WWII era crime drama in which the use of an aniseed ball timer is utilized to blow up a ship of Jewish refugees in a French port . I said Aha! my next puzzle to perplex U guys!:Kaleun_Salute: Over 2 Catfish! https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/53/a4376153.shtml The two men visited Woolworths and they got washing-up bowls made of spun aluminium to contain the explosives. They then raided all the sweet shops in Bedford for aniseed balls that were used as a time delay for setting off the explosives so that the saboteurs, frogmen who were attaching these limpet mines to the side of enemy ships, could have a safe time to escape before the charges went off. So I saw quite a lot of this acivity going on in the house, particularly this interesting development with an unusual use of aniseed balls.

The aniseed balls were drilled and little detonator capsules put inside and my father had these ranged around the house and setting off at different times depending on the amount of aniseed ball that was used on each detonator. He would rush into the room in the house where, on the mantlepiece, one of these charges would be put in a big glass Woolworth's tumbler and he would say, "Right, that's 35 minutes." It didn't matter that probably the glass had fractured and all the water had gone - he had got something that worked and they were quickly able to establish how much of an aniseed ball was needed to give the varying times of delay that the operators would require. My next clue: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/TIML_poster.jpg/220px-TIML_poster.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Jim said what it is, are there any more questions allowed?
Otherwise it's mine, and i'll be limping home with it :O:

Nah i take it Jim knows very well where/what for it was used.

He'll next want to know how many were in a kiddies packet of sweets no doubt!

Carry on Kai

[Catfish]

Hey no, Jim got the right answer ! Bby asked for what it is and Jim answered with aniseed. Would never have found that .. was just riding on his info trying to be "witty" (german variety) :doh: :oops: :k_confused:

[Aktungbby]

Actually once I asked if it was Heckraddampfer, thus getting on the scent, it was simply hunting by RAMSAR with two river zones to narrow the gap:Kaleun_Wink: What's this munition? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11918

Hey no, Jim got the right answer ! Bby asked for what it is and Jim answered with aniseed. Would never have found that .. was just riding on his info trying to be "witty" (german variety) :doh: :oops: :k_confused: Nope! over to Catfish I specifically asked "what munition ' this is which directly is a detonation function of the limpet mine, As the popomeister Pußle crafter and lover of poopy coffee beans ;:Kaleun_Cheers: the decision is mine alone! Over to Catfish!:arrgh!::D

[Catfish]

Nope! over to Catfish I [...] As the popomeister Pußle crafter and lover of poopy coffee beans ;:Kaleun_Cheers: the decision is mine alone! Over to Catfish!:arrgh!::D
You !"§$%&/(:arrgh!: .. asked for it.

Name of this, please (and i'll be gone 'til tomorrow now):

https://i.imgur.com/kGVwhVxm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Is there Hydrogen or Helium in the envelope?

[Catfish]

^ not on the photo i think, but it was filled at least once with helium

[Jimbuna]

High-altitude balloon?

[Catfish]

No.

[mapuc]

It is an airship I wonder if it's one of these famous English airships.

One of them disappeared and was, if I remember correctly never found, its call Sign was
R- something.

Markus

[Catfish]

It is an airship I wonder if it's one of these famous English airships.
One of them disappeared and was, if I remember correctly never found, its call Sign was R- something. MarkusThe one in question is not english.

[mapuc]

The one in question is not english.

Was it a German Zeppelin ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

WWI era?

[Catfish]

@ Mapuc: not german

WWI era?
No.

[u crank]

Pre ww1?

[Jimbuna]

Post WWI?

[Catfish]

Pre ww1?
No.
Post WWI?
Yes.

[Catfish]

You will once more hate me :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

French?

[Catfish]

French?
No.

Hint: you do not have to think of it as a national effort.

[Jimbuna]

Euro Airship?

[Catfish]

No.

[Jimbuna]

You will once more hate me :arrgh!:

This is what puzzles me :hmmm:

[u crank]

Is it a one of a kind?

[Catfish]

Yes.

[u crank]

Did this thing do something that made it famous?

[Catfish]

I guess not, or only for a smaller group.

[Aktungbby]

how many in the group?

[Jimbuna]

Got a feeling I'm going to lead someone to the promised land....a kids tv series?

[Catfish]

how many in the group?
Hard to tell, 10,000 to 200,000 or so. Could be more, i really don't know.

@Jim
sry, not a kid's TV show

[mapuc]

Italy ?
Used to crossing North pole

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Civilian use?

[Aktungbby]

gasoline engine powered?

[Catfish]

Did not cross the North Pole.
"Civilian use" umm yes
Gasoline powered - i have no idea. Maybe not.

[Jimbuna]

Does it fly?

[mapuc]

Ok
Airship - post WWI and from Italy

Correct so far ?

Markus

[Catfish]

@Mapuc: Did not cross the North pole and not from Italy
- post ww1 yes

@Jim Not really, there was at least one effort i read, but the winds were too strong :03:

[mapuc]

USA ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Not from the US.

[Aktungbby]

one of the Yamada-Shiki non-ridgid Japanese dirgibles?

[Catfish]

@Aktung: Not japanese.

You of all brought me to this when i did not win, nor wanted to post another quest! :O:

[u crank]

You of all brought me to this when i did not win, nor wanted to post another quest! :O:

How about a clue then oh generous one. :D

[Catfish]

A.. hint? :hmph:

Ok. Post ww2.
It will not help you
edit: maybe it will help :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

Was it used for exploration purposes.

[Catfish]

^ No.

Big hint: Built by an artist.

[u crank]

Was it a movie prop?

[Catfish]

Not in a movie.

[Jimbuna]

Made out of cardboard?

[Catfish]

^ not cardboard, i do not know exactly - envelope some tranparent plastic, gondola is cane i read.

[Jimbuna]

NASA manned floating outpost on Venus?

[Catfish]

Afraid not lol

[Jimbuna]

You will once more hate me :arrgh!:

@Aktung: Not japanese.

You of all brought me to this when i did not win, nor wanted to post another quest! :O:

I sense there is a rabbit away here :hmmm:

[u crank]

Was it ever intended to fly?

[Aktungbby]

https://img.theculturetrip.com/1440x/smart/images/56-209101-panamarenkoo.jpg Panamarenko's zeppelin? EDIT: but
He was Belgian...isn't that Euro as asked by Jimbuna?? :O:https://img.theculturetrip.com/1440x/smart/images/56-209105-flickr-65230238-hd-1.jpg

[Catfish]

^ @Aktungbby: Yes that's it. Now, what is the name of the airship :O:
Just for completion, you won :salute:

There are two "Euro" airships that have been projected by the EU, but this one is from a single belgian artist, so it has not been an Euro joint effort, nor a national belgian thing.

@ u crank, yes it was somehow intended to fly, but it never did. The artist that built it phantasized of living in this airship high in the clouds, together with Brigitte Bardot. The latter never commented this.
The "airship" never really flew though there was one effort that almost completely destroyed it :03:

The artist's name is "Panamarenko", real one was Henri Van Herwegen.
He built a lot of "flying machines", not really intended to fly. He was an artist, sculptor, poet, and interested in mechanics and science.

I saw it in 1972 on the Dokumenta 5 exhibition, it was impressing but at closer look a bit underwhelming :D

https://i.imgur.com/0bpbdBQl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zSCmqX3l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EE8YK6Bl.jpg


Over to Aktungbby :salute:

[Aktungbby]

^ @Aktungbby: Yes that's it. Now, what is the name of the airship It's posted on the second photo of my post??!! THE AEROMODELLER This one drove me a little nuts. I knew I'd seen it previously... I'll have something shortly.

[Catfish]

Ah yes you are right but you did not write it :O:
As said before you won :salute:
On another photo there is OO-PL1 written on the envelope, here is one of the few tests that almost destroyed it. It was not a "Zeppelin" since there is no inner skeleton, instead it is more blimp-like, a blown-up envelope here filled with helium. I guess the engines did not even work, or if they would have made short work of this flimsy PVC hull.

https://i.imgur.com/RjmeKv0l.jpg

There's also a more serious approach called the "Aeromodeller II": https://lynceans.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Aeromodeller-II-converted.pdf

[Aktungbby]

You,re right; I misspoke. I meant 'dirigible': ie a controllable airship
(engine equipped) vs an out and out 'blimp' A Zepellin is a ridgid dirigible as opposed to non-ridgid Japanese dirgibles? I had also asked "helium or Hydrogen" to sort out of the German airship era since the Hindenburg had flammable hydrogen... always a problem. https://www.bing.com/th?id=AMMS_fcfbb86730b77fd71218f617e1c56a98&w=224&h=183&c=8&rs=1&o=5&pid=3.1&rm=2 what's this?>https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11919

[Catfish]

Is it an animal?

[mapuc]

It does look like one of these sea things who live on/at the great barrier reef.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

nope to both of you.

[Eichhörnchen]

You must be able to give us more than this! A friend of Sonic the Hedgehog?

[u crank]

Covid 19?

[Aktungbby]

You must be able to give us more than this! A friend of Sonic the Hedgehog?NO

Covid 19?NO

[Jimbuna]

A plant?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it man made?

[Aktungbby]

A plant?yes

Is it man made?nope

[Jimbuna]

Paddle Cacti?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

Found in California?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

South America?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Catfish]

Does not really fit, but sundew/drosera?

[Jimbuna]

Asia?

[Aktungbby]

Does not really fit, but sundew/drosera? no

Asia?

YES! and named for an Englishman!

[Catfish]

Is it Robert Fortune?

[Aktungbby]

Having meticulously perused the voluminous taxonomy of this particular fungii, I find no mention of the name, Scottsman Robt. Fortune, you mentioned. The original discoverer was a 1700's Frenchman botanist, but his papers & sketches were seized then hidden in the empirical travails of the time; so the current name is after an Englisman's. Jimbuna or his son probably caught a whiff of this parasite's distinctive scent in their own voyages, but probably mistook it for bad cooking.:arrgh!: Here's another perspective of this amazing object which is a declared 'national flower'>https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11920

[Jimbuna]

An orchid?

[Aktungbby]

bigger

[Jimbuna]

Hibiscus rosa- sinensis?

[Aktungbby]

Right 'hood; but yours is a flower plant; the puzzle is a bad smelling fungus...with no roots...found on at least two VERY large Islands...when it can be found.

[Jimbuna]

Clathrus ruber?

[Catfish]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2744083#post2744083)
A plant?

yesHmm Aktung said it is a plant, a mushroom/fungus is not a plant

Guess this time i won't win this raffle :doh:

[Aktungbby]

Clathrus ruber? no

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbuna https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2744083#post2744083)
A plant?

Hmm Aktung said it is a plant, a mushroom/fungus is not a plant

Guess this time i won't win this raffle :doh: I didn't say mushroom; it is definitly not a mushroom. Sorry about 'plant' confusing you. This a fungus plant:O: that grows on other plants and blooms periodically. and it holds the world record!

[Catfish]

I know, but it is not a fungus :03:

[Aktungbby]

I know, but it is not a fungus :03:upon re-review: my possible bad: it is a flower certainly "but is similar to fungi" as it has no stem, roots, or chlorophyll and lives off a host plant. It is of a 'parasitic genus' which is a dead giveaway...and what it smells like to boot!

[Catfish]

Yes, i guess i know what it is (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2744522&postcount=16861) .. if someone lengthen the Sir's name, Inter Alia :O:

Edit: so no one? Sir Stamford wins the Raffle. Together with Conans's forename.. ;)

[Aktungbby]

Bingo! that took me a bit to deciphyr: Rafflesia Arnoldii; it is the worlds biggest flower 4ft diameter. Found on Sumatra and Java.

[Aktungbby]

:Kaleun_Salute:

Edit: so no one? Sir Stamford wins the Raffle. Together with Conans's forename.. ;)

Stamford Raffles & Arthur Conan Doyle....?Bingo! that took me a bit to deciphyr: ie: Rafflesia Arnoldii; it is the world's biggest flower at 4 ft. diameter. Found on Sumatra and Java.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Rafflesia_arnoldii_and_buds.JPG Catfish takes it!:Kaleun_Salute: Also known(apparently) as Raffleasia Patra https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0cGRujABwuQ/hqdefault.jpg:hmmm:

[Catfish]

Yes, i guess i know what it is (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2744522&postcount=16861) .. if someone lengthen the Sir's name, Inter Alia :O:
Edit: so no one? Sir Stamford wins the Raffle. Together with Conans's forename.. ;)
Stamford Raffles & Arthur Conan Doyle....? [...] Also known(apparently) as Raffleasia Patra :hmmm:


It was a bit cryptic i guess, .. "wins the RAFFLE" / Stamford Raffles and Inter Alia (Rafflesia), and Conan's forename (Arnold Schwarzenegger is Conan lol), so Rafflesia arnoldii.. Blame it on my twisted mind :D

Hope I find something soon :hmmm:

[Catfish]

Ok what's this?



https://i.imgur.com/WjE8RAsm.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Tupolev ANT-20 Maxim Gorki?

[Catfish]

Tupolev ANT-20 Maxim Gorki?
Yes. Next question please :D
Google Image? :o

Well done, over to Jim :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Yes. Next question please :D
Google Image? :o

Well done, over to Jim :salute:

Lucky pick, I tried Russian planes first. Next would have been US

[Aktungbby]

Blame it on my twisted mind Ain't we a pair!! Lucky pick, I tried Russian planes first. Next would have been US That's almost as fast as the Chinese jet fighter i got by having read a Forbes article on India's purchases of Chinese Militaria the day before...pure dumb luck oft takes the day!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Righteo then, who is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/xTzZYBwk/hhhhhh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Moonlight]

A former British politician?.

[u crank]

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburg?

[Aktungbby]

is he deceased?

[Jimbuna]

A former British politician?.

Not a politician.

[Jimbuna]

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburg?

Not royalty but they might as well of been in my book. I regret not having ever met them in person.

is he deceased?

Yes

[Moonlight]

Was he an actor?.

[u crank]

Sports personality?

[Aktungbby]

Not royalty but they might as well of been in my book. I regret not having ever met them in person.



Yeswhat u mean by them Kemo Sabe? I think we we're looking fer a him.

[Jimbuna]

Was he an actor?.

Not an actor but he definitely pulled the wool over a countries eyes once.

Sports personality?

Not as far as I'm aware but one must presume he was a strong swimmer.

[Jimbuna]

what u mean by them Kemo Sabe? I think we we're looking fer a him.

Oh yes most definitely and very much a mans man.

[mapuc]

Then it can't be the one I came to think of

Johnny Weissmüller aka Tarzan

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not an American Markus.

[Moonlight]

British business man?.

[Eichhörnchen]

Armed Services?

[Jimbuna]

British business man?.

Not a business man but he certainly took care of the 'business' when ordered to.

Armed Services?

Yes

[Moonlight]

was he a Scottish officer?

[Jimbuna]

Not Scottish but English.

CLUE: He wrote a book on one of his experiences which imho was a bloody good read.

[Aktungbby]

'experience' in WWII?

[Jimbuna]

Yes but in total his career was over forty plus years.

[Aktungbby]

Was he also in WW I?

[Jimbuna]

'experience' in WWII?

I must humbly apologise, he did not see service during WW2 but shortly thereafter :oops:

Clue: He was married and had one son and one daughter.

[Eichhörnchen]

Royal Navy then?

[Jimbuna]

Most definitely and I should imagine you will have a pretty good knowledge base regarding him and his achievements.

[Catfish]

A renowned author of several books?

[Aktungbby]

I must humbly apologise, he did not see service during WW2 but shortly thereafter :oops:

Clue: He was married and had one son and one daughter.

Royal Navy then?

A renowned author of several books?Well, that lets out author Dudley Pope(no son; and he was torpedoed as a teenaged merchant cadet in WWII)who's photo looked similar.:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

A renowned author of several books?

Just the one book/memoir as far as I'm aware but it was revised and updated twice.

The original book is currently in my bedside cabinet.

[Jimbuna]

Well, that lets out author Dudley Pope(no son; and he was torpedoed as a teenaged merchant cadet in WWII)who's photo looked similar.:hmmm:

This gentleman died less than ten years ago.

[Aktungbby]

well that let's out Vincent Cronin.... d. 2011.:D

[mapuc]

I came to think of Christopher Lee, but he died in 2015 and he was also active during WWII.

So it isn't him.

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

A marine artist? I can't think of anyone who fits the bill

[Aktungbby]

One Hunred Days by Adm. John Forster 'Sandy' Woodward GBE KCB? Began his career in 1946 just after WWII and served in submarines which availed him well when he ordered the hunt to destruction of the Exocet missile equipped exAmerican cruiser, Adm Belgrano, a serious risk to the Falkland invasion British taskforce.

[Jimbuna]

A marine artist? I can't think of anyone who fits the bill

Not so much an accomplished artist but his book/memoir has quite a few line sketches he made himself, real basic stuff when compared to your detailed work.

[Jimbuna]

One Hunred Days by Adm. John Forster 'Sandy' Woodward GBE KCB? Began his career in 1946 just after WWII and served in submarines which availed him well when he ordered the hunt to destruction of the Exocet missile equipped exAmerican cruiser, Adm Belgrano, a serious risk to the Falkland invasion British taskforce.

Very well done that man. It is indeed one of my heroes Admiral Sir John Forster "Sandy" Woodward, GBE, KCB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Woodward

https://i.postimg.cc/fb091Y2m/methode-times-prodmigration-web-bin-577ef545-b1ed-31e8-be3d-143677186a49.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Over to you :salute:

[Moonlight]

Bollocks, I was just working my way through the Falklands conflict, I'd already discounted Admiral of the Fleet Terence Thornton Lewin and Chris Wreford-Brown the commander of the nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror, so close and yet so far away. :o

[Eichhörnchen]

Life is full of disappointments

[Aktungbby]

Very well done that man. It is indeed one of my heroes Admiral Sir John Forster "Sandy" Woodward, GBE, KCB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Woodward

https://i.postimg.cc/fb091Y2m/methode-times-prodmigration-web-bin-577ef545-b1ed-31e8-be3d-143677186a49.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Over to you :salute: A veritable Drake to the Iron lady's "not for turning"!:Kaleun_Salute: @ Moonlight: I used the simple approach and asked my tablet: 'British Naval Memoirs' and there it was!:arrgh!: OK What's this arboreal treasure?! https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11926

[Eichhörnchen]

Piece of timber from The Alamo?

[Aktungbby]

nope...and thanks for leading me to the promised land in the the previous puzzle; your "Royal Navy then?" put me squarely on the scent!:salute:

[Buddahaid]

Former White House crabapple tree?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[mapuc]

Is it an old tree ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

it's over a hundred years old...

[Catfish]

Is it artificial?

[Aktungbby]

not in this case ...but I'm not certain. Edit; upon review, I'm certain it is artificial...

[Jimbuna]

Bollocks, I was just working my way through the Falklands conflict, I'd already discounted Admiral of the Fleet Terence Thornton Lewin and Chris Wreford-Brown the commander of the nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror, so close and yet so far away. :o

If your not fast...your last :03:

[Jimbuna]

OK What's this arboreal treasure?!

Noahs Ark?

[Aktungbby]

^ it could be; but Noach might be a little closer to the Mark:know:

[Moonlight]

What's this arboreal treasure?!, how can it be an arboreal treasure when it's not even wood?. :haha:

Was it made for a ship project?.

[Jimbuna]

Military connection?

[Aktungbby]

What's this arboreal treasure?!, how can it be an arboreal treasure when it's not even wood?. :haha:

Was it made for a ship project?.arboreal treasure:hmmm:...'warfare is the art of deception'... even when asea in a barren land.

Military connection?yes

[Catfish]

One of those fake-trees, tree-like contraptions they used in WW1, as an observation/spy post at the edge of no-man's land?

[Aktungbby]

BINGO! And jus to throw u a Bone; https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/aastPhm00D1SeL9_jQe-J3KYNmU=/fit-in/1072x0/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/4f/05/4f0587e3-93fa-472e-8db5-93e02d54cf46/fake-trees-spy-wwi.jpg This one was at a trench location on the German side known as 'German House' First, engineers would find a dead tree near the front that had (ideally) been blasted by a bomb. They would then take extensive photos, measurements, and sketches of the dead tree. From there, work commenced behind the scenes. All of the detailed information would be brought back to a workshop, where artists would create an exact replica of the tree: life-size, with the same dead and broken limbs, and with expertly crafted “bark” made from wrinkled, painted iron. To make the bark appear more real, the artists would often cover it with a rough textured concoction made from materials like pulverized seashells.

The most important part of the tree, though, was the interior. Each replica tree was hollow, with fake bark surrounding an inner armored tube that would protect whichever soldier was inside. Soldiers would climb a narrow rope ladder through the middle of the tree and sit on a metal seat (in many cases, with a wooden cushion) at the top. Sections of the outer bark were cut away and replaced with metal mesh to disguise viewing holes for the soldier. For protection, though, the soldier faced a solid metal wall and had to use a periscope or telescope to see outside the tree. They would then communicate what they could see to the troops below, who would handle the situation from the ground. After construction came the real challenge. Since the front lines were very visible, the fake tree had to be installed at night, under the noisy distraction of gunfire. The engineers would come in, tear out the original tree, dig a hole in place of its roots, then install the fake tree. When everyone woke up in the morning, the tree would still be there and still looked the same—except now it was a hollow, armored vessel concealing a soldier at the top.
As part of the 2014 to 2018 centenary of World War I, visitors to the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, Australia, can see one of these trees on display. The tree featured in this memorial was actually used in battle by German forces from the 3rd Division Army Services Corps. It was used as an observation post camouflage tree, or Baumbeobachter, which translates to “tree observer,” and it stood in Oosttaverne Wood in Belgium. A number of soldiers and 3rd Division members had signed the tree, either in pencil or by scratching their initials into the metal itself. One of the soldiers who signed the tree, Private Frederick Augustus Peck, was killed in battle just three months after he inscribed his name on the bark. Over 2 Catfish!:Kaleun_Salute: I could sure use one of these in my very thick-trunk 60 ft palm tree to spy on the buxom blond bombshell next door...but that crusty strumpet knows I'm watching and flaunts it anyway!:O: https://www.amusingplanet.com/2019/04/fake-tree-observation-posts-of-ww1.html https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KIVOlLS7bgc/XLWH7iHZR4I/AAAAAAAAe14/2rBJxWtQx5UTM5C4-S05UBxkLPh9y-RmACLcBGAs/s1600/fake-tree-observation-post-10.jpg

[Catfish]

My first thought when i saw the picture was indeed this kind of "tree", but since you wrote "arboreal treasure" .. :wah:, this is why i asked whether it was artificial.. and when Jim asked for military use i was back on the first scent..

[Catfish]

Ok what's that..



https://i.imgur.com/Jzw28Hem.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Mercedes?

[Catfish]

Not a Mercedes.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like the Batmobile to me :)

[Moonlight]

A limited edition?.

[Catfish]

Jim yes it looks like it :yep:


@Moonlight: I have no idea but i think so, maybe the only one.

[Aktungbby]

German?

[mapuc]

First I think we need to figure out in which decade it was made.

I think in the end of the 30's

Markus

[Jimbuna]

40's?

[Catfish]

@Aktungbby: Not german. Though the name sounds quite german, at least partially.

@Mapuc: You are right, end of the 30ies. Hint: they say 1939 but maybe a bit earlier.

@Jim: a tiny bit earlier, see above

[mapuc]

Know we know in what decade it was made.
Next are which country it was made in, some of my friends have given some proposals.

Was it Sweden ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Not Sweden.

[Jimbuna]

Austria?

[Catfish]

No..

[Jimbuna]

France?

[mapuc]

Italy ?

Markus

[Catfish]

@Mapuc: Not Italy.

@Jim: yes, France.

[mapuc]

Citroën ?

Markus

[Catfish]

I read the body used parts of a Citroen "Traction Avant" suspension, but the sought-for company's name which created the body is a different one.

[Buddahaid]

Bugatti?

[Catfish]

Not a Bugatti.

[Catfish]

Hint:
A small french company. They built special streamlined car bodies, foremost for racing cars, and also began with production of street cars after the war in 1945.

[Jimbuna]

Talbot-Lago?

[Catfish]

^ No.

[Buddahaid]

Is the company still in business? There must be a hundred French car manufacturers that have come and gone.

[Catfish]

^ It ceased to exist in the early 1960ies, but one of the two continued a few years longer.
So not in business today.

[Moonlight]

Arista?

[Catfish]

No. Had to look this up .. going in the right direction regarding another company though, and the LeMams 24 hours races, also like Arista the company in question tended to produce fibre glass bodies for their cars.

[Buddahaid]

Chappe et Gessalin

[Aktungbby]

Panhard et Levassor?

[Catfish]

Chappe et Gessalin
No.
Panhard et Levassor?
No. Big hint: Though Panhard is a bit connected, later at least - not with this car in question though. :D

So we need the company and the name of the car..

[Buddahaid]

Deutsch-Bonnet "Tank".
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/7715406132

[Aktungbby]

nice! The Continuum continues. I knew it was a '38-'39 something-or-other, and that DB had used Panhard engines and their carshow show space but couldn't find the pic under 'fastback french cars of the '30's":oops::wah::Kaleun_Salute:

[Buddahaid]

I found it searching for French fiberglass cars after giving up on the defunct mfg. list in Wikipedia. I'd even looked at DB on that list and passed it over.

[Catfish]

Deutsch-Bonnet "Tank".
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/7715406132

Yesss, that is the one! The french 1939 Deutsch-Bonnet DB1, also called "Tank" :up:

https://i.imgur.com/fqC7bktl.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_(car)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://autonatives.de/deutsch-et-bonnet-automobiles-d-b.html

Built in 1938-39, using parts of the Citroen 11 CV La "Traction Avant" ("l'Attraction") with front wheel drive, including the first hydropneumatic suspension at one axle.
The first DBs used Citroen parts, later they used engines from Panhard. Modern cars still use a lot of Panhard's ideas and patents, i wonder why those brilliant inventors and relatively successful firms had to quit.. same as with a lot of english manufacturers. All those ideas ..

DB had some success in the great races from Mille Miglia to LeMans; they built a lot of pretty little cars, all being fast and light.

Over to Buddahaid :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Aptly named :o

[Buddahaid]

Good morning. What is this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4979/hOWn2c.png

[Jimbuna]

The rear of a motorbike?

[Buddahaid]

Not a motorbike.

[u crank]

Science fiction movie prop?

[mapuc]

I have this feeling that this device has something to do with water.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Science fiction movie prop?
Why yes it is but not for water.

[Jimbuna]

Hand held?

[Aktungbby]

Tom Cruise's flying gizmo in Oblivion?https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c1/65/d9/c165d949c923af0faffa62a71f263d87.jpg

[Moonlight]

Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Aren't you the smarty pants. :haha:

[Buddahaid]

That was pretty fast and the continuum marks another victory.

I love that prop which was built full scale for the film. Technically it's called a dragonfly.

Over to you.

[Jimbuna]

Not a bad film imho

[Aktungbby]

Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Aren't you the smarty pants. :haha: Actually my wife gets the consult credit on this one; it just leaped into my head when I read U Crank's 'science fiction movie prop' query.... :O: OK what's is this gizmo? > https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11927

[Moonlight]

Part of a TV or movie set?

[mapuc]

Even if this gizmo is big we have to think very little, so little it can't be seen with our eyes.

Markus

[u crank]

Some type of engine?

[Aktungbby]

Part of a TV or movie set?nope

Even if this gizmo is big we have to think very little, so little it can't be seen with our eyes.

Markusvery good perception lad!

Some type of engine?nope

[Moonlight]

Part of a fairground ride?

[mapuc]

Think Quark

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Part of a fairground ride?nope

Think Quark

Markus

getting warm...if not downright discerning!:D

[u crank]

Large Hadron Collider?

[Aktungbby]

Very closely related. EDIT: in fact upon review, it's close enough; the object in question is a portion of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC)in CERN Switzerland. The Compact Muon Solenoid particle detector is attached to the LHC...ie: the CMS of the LHC if you will! It's the difference 'twixt thinkin' quarks and finding
denser muons. So w/o further ado +I gotta be up at the crack of dawn to paint a boat hull; So over to U Crank!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Even I knew that https://i.postimg.cc/wx4bmw09/liaranimatedanimationli-1.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[u crank]

Ok then, what would this be?

https://i.imgur.com/WlvSFHV.jpg?1

[Jimbuna]

A ship?

[Buddahaid]

Is the image all the same object?

[mapuc]

I think it's a kind of a building where this close-up makes it look likes the bow on a ship.

Markus

[u crank]

A ship?

Yes.

Is the image all the same object?

Yes.

[u crank]

I think it's a kind of a building where this close-up makes it look likes the bow on a ship.

Markus

Not a building.

[Jimbuna]

Post WWII?

[u crank]

Post WWII?

Built and commissioned near the end of WW2.

[Catfish]

Now in London?
Belay that ..

[Buddahaid]

A warship as in commissioned?

[u crank]

A warship as in commissioned?

It was not built as a warship but built and commissioned by a navy.

[Jimbuna]

Royal Navy?

[u crank]

Royal Navy?

No.

[Jimbuna]

US?

[u crank]

US?

Yes.