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u crank
02-11-21, 05:36 AM
A satellite?

No but very warm.

Eichhörnchen
02-11-21, 05:51 AM
Part of a Space Station

u crank
02-11-21, 05:59 AM
Part of a Space Station

No.

Catfish
02-11-21, 06:14 AM
Mars Rover?

u crank
02-11-21, 06:22 AM
Mars Rover?

No.

I will also make an edit here. Aktungbby asked if it was metal. I said yes but it is also composed of other elements. What you are seeing is not the metal.

Catfish
02-11-21, 10:07 AM
So part of a rocket?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 10:24 AM
Part of the space shuttle external tank?

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 10:42 AM
Part of the internal cargo crane on the shuttle?

u crank
02-11-21, 10:43 AM
So part of a rocket?

Technically no. A separate component.

Part of the space shuttle external tank?

Bingo.

An amazing piece of equipment. The weight of this thing at takeoff - 1,680,000 lbs.

https://i.imgur.com/rss8NQu.jpg?1

Over to you. :salute:

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 10:51 AM
Or, the crane in the NASA Vehicle Assembly Building. :up:

You can see a bit of it here but I can't find a picture of it.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/behindscenes/shuttle_lift.html

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 10:58 AM
Technically no. A separate component.



Bingo.

An amazing piece of equipment. The weight of this thing at takeoff - 1,680,000 lbs.

https://i.imgur.com/rss8NQu.jpg?1

Over to you. :salute:

Dang, that was just a stab.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 11:13 AM
metal?

No.
I will also make an edit here. Aktungbby asked if it was metal. I said yes but it is also composed of other elements. What you are seeing is not the metal.


Bingo.
An amazing piece of equipment. The weight of this thing at takeoff - 1,680,000 lbs, 'Heavy Metal'!:D'
Dang, that was just a stab.The Continuum stabs, cuts, and thrusts BBY!:Kaleun_Salute: a shot in the dark netted me Jimbuna's Hindu temple and the upper arm of the Terminator-dumb luck's better than no luck at all! Congrats on that tuffy!

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 11:19 AM
I was just trying to think of something space related and yellow that fit the other clues.

What does this belong to?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1029/KA3S5s.jpg

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 11:23 AM
A castle gate?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 11:27 AM
A castle gate?

No, but I see what you are getting at.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 11:39 AM
the 'great knocker' from Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein:D

Catfish
02-11-21, 11:45 AM
Locomotive part?

OT here, isn't the external fuel tank part of a rocket?

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 11:47 AM
A hinge off a steam boiler?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 11:52 AM
the 'great knocker' from Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein:D

Uh, thank you doctor....but no.

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 11:53 AM
Locomotive part?

OT here, isn't the external fuel tank part of a rocket?

Not part of a locomotive.

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 11:54 AM
A hinge off a steam boiler?

Not a hinge off a boiler.

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 11:57 AM
Any thing to do with waterways?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 12:01 PM
Any thing to do with waterways?

Nothing at all.

Catfish
02-11-21, 12:30 PM
automotive?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 12:36 PM
automotive?

By definition, yes.

Catfish
02-11-21, 12:55 PM
Wishbone/suspension arm?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 12:56 PM
Wishbone/suspension arm?

Nope.

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 01:40 PM
Agricultural connection?

u crank
02-11-21, 01:45 PM
Is it part of a Tesla you found on the street? :D

OT here, isn't the external fuel tank part of a rocket?

I struggled to answer that correctly. In the end I had to go with this. The external fuel tank supplied fuel to the engines on the orbiter vehicle, not to the solid fuel boosters. I have never heard of the orbiter being referred to as a rocket even though it had rocket engines. Frankly I thought the color would give it away much sooner.

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 01:46 PM
Agricultural connection?

Let's see. Not intended for agriculture but did find it's way there.

Catfish
02-11-21, 01:50 PM
Is it part of a Tesla you found on the street? :D
:haha:

re thanks for coming back to the rocket/fuel tank, np i would not have found it anyway :03:

Catfish
02-11-21, 01:54 PM
Initially part of a military vehicle?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 01:56 PM
Is it part of a Tesla you found on the street? :D



I struggled to answer that correctly. In the end I had to go with this. The external fuel tank supplied fuel to the engines on the orbiter vehicle, not to the solid fuel boosters. I have never heard of the orbiter being referred to as a rocket even though it had rocket engines. Frankly I thought the color would give it away much sooner.

No. :haha:

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 01:57 PM
Initially part of a military vehicle?

Yes.

Jimbuna
02-11-21, 02:09 PM
WWI era?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 02:15 PM
WWI era?

Nope.

u crank
02-11-21, 02:25 PM
Would this be part of an American military vehicle?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 02:25 PM
Would this be part of an American military vehicle?

Not American.

Catfish
02-11-21, 02:41 PM
Russian?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 02:46 PM
Russian?

Not Russian.

mapuc
02-11-21, 03:17 PM
I have a feeling that this device or the part shown in the picture, is far older than the WWI era.

Markus

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 03:28 PM
Not older than WW1.

Eichhörnchen
02-11-21, 04:29 PM
Is it part of a winch?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 04:33 PM
Is it part of a winch?

Not part of a winch.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 04:47 PM
german?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 04:54 PM
german?

It is German.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:05 PM
from tread?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:19 PM
from tread?

Yes, from tread.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:20 PM
WWII?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:28 PM
WWII?

Yes WW2.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:32 PM
tiger I track link?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:33 PM
tiger I track link?

Not for a Tiger I.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:38 PM
Stug III?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:41 PM
Stug III?

Not a Stug III.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:43 PM
Panzer II?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:44 PM
Panzer II?

Not a Panzer II.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:47 PM
Did it shoot a cannon?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:50 PM
Did it shoot a cannon?

Nope.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 05:54 PM
Sdkfz 251?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 05:58 PM
Sdkfv 251?

Not a Sdkfv 251. I had to look that up.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 06:03 PM
how many in crew?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 06:05 PM
how many in crew?

Up to two.

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 06:12 PM
SdKfz II 'Kettenkrad'?

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 06:18 PM
SdKfz II 'Kettenkrad'?

That is it. :Kaleun_Cheers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._2

It has a very unique tread.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3163/VJYq7W.jpg

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 06:39 PM
Up to two.

:haha:https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/SdKfz-2-but-better-known-as-the-Kettenkrad-Motorcycle-Tank-or-Kleines-Kettenkraftrad-HK-101.jpeg But as soon as U said "two" I recalled Saving Pvt Ryan which had as many panzer related bloopers as Greyhounds https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/i012295.jpg I'll have a new puzzle for true :subsim:ers shortly!

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 07:33 PM
Shortly: WHO, What, where, & When? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11792

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 07:39 PM
U-977?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-977

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 10:01 PM
No but your headed in the right direction; There was a lot of money involved.

Buddahaid
02-11-21, 10:55 PM
No but your headed in the right direction; There was a lot of money involved.

This must have something to do with chocolate.....:hmmm:

Aktungbby
02-11-21, 11:46 PM
not to my knowledge.

Catfish
02-12-21, 05:16 AM
The chocolate coins at Christmas look familiar :yep:

The 20 Dollar gold coin "Double Eagle", 1849 by James B. Longacre (now in Washington, Smithsonian Institute)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_eagle

u crank
02-12-21, 05:23 AM
This must have something to do with chocolate.....:hmmm:

:har:

Jimbuna
02-12-21, 09:47 AM
The chocolate coins at Christmas look familiar :yep:

The 20 Dollar gold coin "Double Eagle", 1849 by James B. Longacre (now in Washington, Smithsonian Institute)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_eagle

I was thinking that but got involved in a GWX patrol :doh:

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 11:05 AM
The chocolate coins at Christmas look familiar :yep:

The 20 Dollar gold coin "Double Eagle", 1849 by James B. Longacre (now in Washington, Smithsonian Institute)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_eagleIt is that; minted in 1860, however the back has 4/6/62 inscribed on it....:hmmm: Undoubtedly the giver of the the coin and the recipient shared a romantic chocolate or two.:yeah:

Catfish
02-12-21, 11:56 AM
It is that; minted in 1860, however the back has 4/6/62 inscribed on it....:hmmm: Undoubtedly the giver of the the coin and the recipient shared a romantic chocolate or two.:yeah:
Maybe it was brought into general circulation two years later? :hmmm:
Whatever, i have not much knowledge of mints and coins but i saw the word at the left ended with ty, and the right word began with D, so i looked for Twenty Dollar gold coins and found this .. :03:

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 12:12 PM
Maybe it was brought into general circulation two years later? :hmmm:
Whatever, i have not much knowledge of mints and coins but i saw the word at the left ended with ty, and the right word began with D, so i looked for Twenty Dollar gold coins and found this .. :03: nose on the scent, lad; I gave the big hint in post# 15815! :haha:

Catfish
02-12-21, 12:44 PM
Ok what is this .. ?

https://i.imgur.com/ujLVeIKm.jpg

mapuc
02-12-21, 12:56 PM
Front of a Fighter plane from WWII.

Markus

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 12:56 PM
WHO, What, where, & When?HUH!???? NO NO! that just what it is coinwise by "nose on the scent", I meant "so far so good" continue on, U have to get who where and when too! It's a veeeeery unique coin...to a true subsimmer!

Jimbuna
02-12-21, 01:03 PM
American single prop?

u crank
02-12-21, 01:38 PM
The aircraft seems to have some coverings. Is that because of cold weather?

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 02:17 PM
HUH!???? NO NO! that just what it is coinwise by "nose on the scent", I meant "so far so good" continue on, U have to get who where and when too! It's a veeeeery unique coin...to a true subsimmer!AHEM! what's going on? my puzzle hasn't yet been resolved!:timeout:

Catfish
02-12-21, 02:23 PM
HUH!???? NO NO! that just what it is coinwise by "nose on the scent", I meant "so far so good" continue on, U have to get who where and when too! It's a veeeeery unique coin...to a true subsimmer!

There seems to have been quite some battling in the mint of the time, with some people trying to move Longacre out of the business :hmmm:

edit: Ah, it is "Dixon's Coin", indeed submarine-related – found in the CSS Hunley!

The Legend
According to legend, Hunley Captain George Dixon was given a $20 gold coin by his sweetheart when he left for war. During the Battle of Shiloh, Dixon was shot. The bullet struck the coin in his trouser pocket, absorbing the impact of the shot and sparing his life. Countless legends are born during war, but few are ever proven. For 137 years, no one knew whether the story was a historical fact or a romantic tale passed from generation to generation.

A Legend Becomes Reality
During the excavation of the Hunley, a gold coin minted in 1860 was discovered lying on Dixon’s hip bone. It was warped from the impact of a bullet, and traces of lead were discovered on the coin. One side bears the image of Lady Liberty, and the other has been sanded and inscribed" Shiloh
April 6th 1862 My life Preserver G. E. D."

https://www.hunley.org/artifacts/

^ Really interesting and worth reading :up:

Jimbuna
02-12-21, 02:25 PM
Spot on Kai and thank the Lord :yeah:

Catfish
02-12-21, 02:32 PM
^ thank the Lord indeed :)

Sorry @Aktungbby, I thought it was enough to identify the type of coin, and when and where it was made, but this unfolding story of the finding, the civil war legend of blocking a bullett and the submarine context with the CSS Hunley and Dixon gets of course much further than this :salute:

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 02:42 PM
INDEED given him by Queeny Bennet, his 17 year old lady. He gave her an engraved locket in return: surely such a pair must have had a chocolate or two.:arrgh!: As for the money involved: the reward for anyone sinking a Charleston blockade ship such as the USS Housatonic was set at $50,000 dollars over a million in today's value. Hence the inspiration by W.L Hunley et al to build a very advanced reduction-geared schnorkel-equipped hydro dynamic submersible. The schnorkel was found not extended. After his close encounter at Shiloh
Lt Dixon he had it inscribed http://www.usrarecoininvestments.com/images/coin_articles/LT_DIXON_GOLD_COIN/DixonRear.jpg Considering my own shattered left hip/fermur on 4/6/1981 :nope: in a gun cleaning accident restoring a WWII .380 Luftwaffe Beretta relic pistol, with a resultant steel pin surgery; I could have used a coin in my own pocket!:k_confused: http://www.usrarecoininvestments.com/images/coin_articles/LT_DIXON_GOLD_COIN/Jacobsencoin.jpg OVER TO CATFISH officially!:haha: He's passed the true:subsim:er test!:O::Kaleun_Salute:

Catfish
02-12-21, 02:52 PM
^ Thanks, this is really a fascinating story, if not for Dixon and the Hunley's crew!


My riddle is much more mundane..

@Mapuc: "Front of a Fighter plane from WWII."
ts ts, 3 questions but ok: yes.

@Jim:
2 questions.. so.. American / no :03:

@u crank:
Not because of the weather afaik

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 03:13 PM
The other question that begs is the mistake in history crediting the Dutch for inventing the 'snuiver' or schnorkel device used by U-boats...clearly a desperate Confederate concept:https://www.hunley.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Tube1.jpg:hmmm: with the candle lit and the blue phosphorous lamp, https://www.vernianera.com/Hunley/images/lamp-side.jpg signaling success" :"start bonfires to navigate back home" in the heavy tidal current, seen by witnesses on shore and a crewman aboard the stricken Housatonic; all consuming precious oxygen good for approx. two hours of cranking by 7 grown men, the issue is of great importance. I'll have a post on the 17th, the date of the Hunley's sinking, with a better theory of the sinking.... after the first successful submarine attack in history https://www.hunley.org/lost-hunley-crews-air-circulation-system-may-not-have-been-functioning-the-night-the-submarine-vanished/ ^ Thanks, this is really a fascinating story, if not for Dixon and the Hunley's crew! GOOD GOD! NO:subsim::hmmm:

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 03:14 PM
Air craft covered for shipping?

Catfish
02-12-21, 03:16 PM
Nope

d@rk51d3
02-12-21, 03:27 PM
Valentines gift. :O:

u crank
02-12-21, 03:38 PM
Valentines gift. :O:

:haha:

Aktungbby
02-12-21, 03:42 PM
Valentines gift. :O: https://i0.wp.com/chocolatevault.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/propplane-1.jpg?resize=300%2C300&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/chocolatevault.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/propplane.jpg?resize=300%2C300&ssl=1https://i1.wp.com/chocolatevault.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/AirCraftKit500x650.jpg?resize=300%2C300&ssl=1:Kaleun_Salivating: Thanks! Reminds me i gotta go get my bride her annual tribute from local famous: Annettes's Chocolate-the big day is Sunday! After 40 years, it's not about love so much as bribesmanship:k_confused:http://www.subsim.com/404n.jpg

Buddahaid
02-12-21, 08:01 PM
Bell XP-59 with fake prop?

I edited this post if it matters.

Catfish
02-13-21, 06:14 AM
Bell XP-59 with fake prop?
I edited this post if it matters.^
Yes this is it! :up: Did not expect this to be solved so fast..
And no other replies, so no problem :03:

The Bell XP-59 'Airacomet', the first US jet airplane. A single seater with twin engines. A Balsa wood propeller and some linen cover was put over it to not give away the special features..

https://i.imgur.com/iv7ieWel.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-59_Airacomet

Over to Budddahaid :salute:

Jimbuna
02-13-21, 07:58 AM
Bell XP-59 with fake prop?

I edited this post if it matters.

That was my initial thought but the prop put me off.

Eichhörnchen
02-13-21, 08:21 AM
I'd spotted that it was a tricycle u/c and started looking at Airacobras. I ought to have remembered this photo

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 11:03 AM
I'd spotted that it was a tricycle u/c and started looking at Airacobras. I ought to have remembered this photo

Same here.

What it this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8537/sDt7ID.jpg

Eichhörnchen
02-13-21, 11:58 AM
Is it Sci-Fi?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 11:59 AM
Is it Sci-Fi?

Yes.

Eichhörnchen
02-13-21, 12:19 PM
Finger-operated keys there?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 12:19 PM
Finger-operated keys there?

Nope.

skidman
02-13-21, 12:58 PM
A robot?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:04 PM
A robot?

Not a robot.

Catfish
02-13-21, 01:22 PM
From "Star Wars"?

Jimbuna
02-13-21, 01:24 PM
Star Trek?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:24 PM
Not from Star Wars.

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:25 PM
Star Trek?

Yes.

Jimbuna
02-13-21, 01:31 PM
Phaser?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:31 PM
Phaser?

Not a phaser.

Jimbuna
02-13-21, 01:33 PM
Tricorder?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 01:33 PM
original series or movie?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:35 PM
original series or movie?

Original series.

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 01:38 PM
permanent Enterprise equipment or 'beamable'?:O:

skidman
02-13-21, 01:42 PM
Travel-Pod?

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:43 PM
permanent Enterprise equipment or 'beamable'?:O:

Well, let's see. I'd have to call it semi-permanent.

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 01:44 PM
Travel-Pod?

Bigger.

EDIT: The right idea though.

Jimbuna
02-13-21, 01:51 PM
Tricorder?

Not answered.

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 01:55 PM
If it's bigger than a travel pod it's gotta be bigger than a tri-corder??!!:arrgh!: Galileo shuttlecraft? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Galileo_Shuttle_Space_Centre_Houston.jpg/1280px-Galileo_Shuttle_Space_Centre_Houston.jpg

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 02:04 PM
Sorry missed the tricorder post.

Yes, it's the restored Galileo shuttlecraft.

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 02:16 PM
GadZooks! :k_confused: that was a shot in the the dark 4 me! I watch original episodes every night on channel 25 to alleviate 'lockdown fever' The only thing i could think of 'bigger' than a space pod would be the 'spaceshuttle'; and I had recently seen: "Metamorphosis", the Galileo is forced to land on an unknown planet. Unable to discern a cause of the shuttle's malfunction, Spock meets with Zephram Cochrane (Glenn Corbett), who explains that a dampening field on the planet is preventing the shuttle from working. When Spock continues in his attempts to repair the shuttle, Cochrane's non-corporeal "Companion" (voiced by Elizabeth Rogers) destroys his equipment and damages the vessel. Captain Kirk (William Shatner) tries to convince the Companion to let them leave, but it merges with a human and loses its powers – repairing the shuttle in the process. What a relief; no Aricept needed....as yet!:O:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Leonard_Nimoy_Mr._Spock_Star_Trek.JPG/220px-Leonard_Nimoy_Mr._Spock_Star_Trek.JPG ie:"Pure Logic!!?? AKBBY":hmmm: I'll have sumpin'shortly

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 02:23 PM
The photo my pic was cropped from is copyrighted so here's a link.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/338262622014292898/

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 02:25 PM
U R a stern fellow!:shucks: EDIT: ok an easy one. What's this? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11794

Eichhörnchen
02-13-21, 04:27 PM
Is it part of a boat?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 05:12 PM
YES

Catfish
02-13-21, 05:17 PM
manual bilgepump?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 05:43 PM
nope; but if Neptun hears U Näcken yer probably not really rockin' either!https://www.marinmuseum.se/globalassets/marinmuseum/bilder/utstallning/ubatshallen/optimerad_ubathsallen5_1000x666_foto_erling.jpg?w= 992:Kaleun_Party:

Eichhörnchen
02-13-21, 05:48 PM
Is this on a dinghy?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 06:00 PM
nope, nor a dory

Catfish
02-13-21, 06:02 PM
PT boat?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 06:15 PM
nope much bigger and more 'eels'

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 10:04 PM
Slotted screw heads is a trait of pre standardized fasteners. Military?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 10:28 PM
If it has 'eels' that would tend to indicate 'military'! and in this case, 'eels' is the right term(big hint:O:):arrgh!:

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 11:16 PM
I think what is messing me up the most is that turned aluminum bit that doesn't look like it ever spent any time in salt water.

Let's start eliminating large groups of possibilities. It would appear to be military so is it German?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 11:26 PM
I think what is messing me up the most is that turned aluminum bit that doesn't look like it ever spent any time in salt water.

Let's start eliminating large groups of possibilities. It would appear to be military so is it German?yes, they designed it; othe navies have also used it.

Buddahaid
02-13-21, 11:43 PM
Is it part of a TDC?

Aktungbby
02-13-21, 11:52 PM
nope; and if the TDC was in use, this gizmo would, in all likelyhood, not be in use.:Kaleun_Sick::Kaleun_Periskop::know:

Jimbuna
02-14-21, 06:12 AM
Periscope?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 11:06 AM
nope!

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 11:48 AM
I'm not finding the pot-o-gold on this.

Angriffsscheibe?

Catfish
02-14-21, 11:55 AM
So it is a part of a german U-boat, not of a torpedo?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 12:05 PM
it was part of a German Uboat...prior to salvaging.:D(hint #3)

u crank
02-14-21, 12:30 PM
So the picture is the object not on a uboat?

Catfish
02-14-21, 12:38 PM
hydrophone?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 12:48 PM
So the picture is the object not on a uboat?in closely reexamining the photo from which the puzzle is derived, I conclude it is or was mounted on the vessel...but of which Navy, I'm not sure.

hydrophone?nope and its use would preclude the use of a hydrophone as well as the aforementioned TDC...:arrgh!: @ Buddahaid: I dont understand your German word. It is not an attackdisk or computational device...or inside Das Boot.

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 01:16 PM
in closely reexamining the photo from which the puzzle is derived, I conclude it is or was mounted on the vessel...but of which Navy, I'm not sure.

nope and its use would preclude the use of a hydrophone as well as the aforementioned TDC...:arrgh!: @ Buddahaid: I dont understand your German word. It is not an attackdisk or computational device...or inside Das Boot.


If you are not using a TDC you have no need for a TBT, or UZO. That leads me to WW1 torpedo fire control but I haven't been able to spot this device.

Is it part of a torpedo director?

Jimbuna
02-14-21, 01:27 PM
Part of the toilet system?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 01:38 PM
If you are not using a TDC you have no need for a TBT, or UZO. That leads me to WW1 torpedo fire control but I haven't been able to spot this device.

Is it part of a torpedo director? WWII...beyond!

Part of the toilet system? Nope to bothayas:03: here's another perspective https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11795 THINK: What was used by more than one navy; Exterior placement; not used while operating Hydrophone(4 sure) or TDC(very probably-to preserve the element of surprise in an attack approach)

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 01:49 PM
Well that leaves RADAR.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 01:57 PM
OH no it doesn't. Big hint: the salvaged U-boat' # had four digits! Similar in all respects to the war confiscated USS 3008 https://cdn.britannica.com/s:1500x700,q:85/44/159744-004-D58C9A3A/USS-U-3008-way-German-sea-April-1948.jpg

Jimbuna
02-14-21, 01:57 PM
Looks like a drain cover to me.

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 02:06 PM
Snorkel?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 02:24 PM
Close enough! THe snorkelhead of type XXI Uboat U-3503https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Submarine_snorkel%2C_1942%2C_the_first_used_by_the _Swedish_Navy%2C_used_on_Neptun_and_later_Nacken_-_Marinmuseum%2C_Karlskrona%2C_Sweden_-_DSC08950.JPG/1280px-Submarine_snorkel%2C_1942%2C_the_first_used_by_the _Swedish_Navy%2C_used_on_Neptun_and_later_Nacken_-_Marinmuseum%2C_Karlskrona%2C_Sweden_-_DSC08950.JPG Scuttled by Germany raised by the Swedish navy and used in 2 of their submarines: Nacken and Neptun. U wouldn't have it raised in an attack on a type XXI as the extended snorkel pipes would break above 6 knots (out of top speed of 15 knots which would cause the scopes to vibrate as well:timeout:); the headaches from eardrum difficulties to crew, diesel fumes,:Kaleun_Sick: and the engine sounds would negate the use of hydro phones. OVER 2 U!:Kaleun_Salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_snorkel https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/U-3008_Key_West.jpg/275px-U-3008_Key_West.jpgThe Gruppenhorchgerät (the boat's hydrophone array) was useless while running diesel engines submerged.

Catfish
02-14-21, 02:48 PM
ok, but what is this orifice(?) for?

The strange uneven paint or coating had me guessing.. but obviously it is not some anti-radar coating.

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 03:10 PM
I've no idea and it was only the perforations that led to a snorkel.

What does this belong to?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8192/MYjvjJ.png

Catfish
02-14-21, 03:30 PM
Looking backwards?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 03:43 PM
Looking backwards?

Not looking backwards.

Catfish
02-14-21, 03:47 PM
Rear seat then (looking forward)?

mapuc
02-14-21, 03:49 PM
Space related ?

Markus

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 03:56 PM
Rear seat then (looking forward)?

It's not a front seated position and is looking forward.

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 03:57 PM
Space related ?

Markus

Not space related.

u crank
02-14-21, 04:03 PM
Post ww2 jet?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 04:05 PM
Post ww2 jet?

Not a post WW2 jet.

u crank
02-14-21, 04:15 PM
Is it an aircraft?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 04:23 PM
Is it an aircraft?

It is an aircraft.

u crank
02-14-21, 04:29 PM
Is it a two seater?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 04:33 PM
Is it a two seater?

Not a two seater.

skidman
02-14-21, 04:40 PM
Strategic bomber?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 04:57 PM
Strategic bomber?

Not a strategic bomber.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 05:08 PM
'Merikan?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 05:08 PM
'Merikan?

Yes.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 06:01 PM
7 man crew?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 06:12 PM
7 man crew?


According to Wikipedia no.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 06:39 PM
twin engine bomber engineer station?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 06:41 PM
twin engine bomber engineer station?

That qualifies as a yes but the question is what it belongs to.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 06:53 PM
Navy or Army air Corp

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 06:56 PM
Navy or Army air Corp

Both, or more specifically the Navy and Army Air Forces.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 07:23 PM
6 man crew?

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 07:34 PM
6 man crew?

Crew compliment probably varies but the spec. compliment is higher.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 08:18 PM
PBY-5A Consolidated Catalina seaplane engineers panel? My late uncle (just passed at 95 flew these and liberators.) shown in position the flight engineer hanging from the unique aircraft
pylon https://worldairphotography.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/p1000468.jpg?w=750&h=447 https://worldairphotography.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/consolidated-pby-5b-flying-boat/ https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/DeeX53geexpaCrsvKfn9TrnBFbaEFJxPKPB3bc2aApEDSi3lav HwTjhhuAqFcBf6Gc-LIOXzD7bRck6PKgjo19CyjeoeQiKxzFkfaYALxG_Zh_E5jSfGE H_cS2uX-BUMtgh1< with windows to view the engine nacelles on the huge overhead wing.

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 08:23 PM
You got it. Over to you.

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 09:46 PM
Year, make, and Movie!:D https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11796

Buddahaid
02-14-21, 09:53 PM
Autogyro?

Aktungbby
02-14-21, 11:11 PM
yup

u crank
02-15-21, 06:04 AM
Kellett K-3 autogyro from It Happened One Night?

Jimbuna
02-15-21, 06:20 AM
Kellett K-3 autogyro from It Happened One Night?

I'm not a gambling man but if I were :03:

https://i.postimg.cc/cLPhNz3m/Kellet-K-2-K-3-Autogiro-USAF.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 11:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUVwHGpoasM Yup! U Crank gets it. I just saw the movie again for the umpteenth time and just now noticed the aircraft. Lockdown fever is a strange mistress...and it's raining:k_confused: OVER TO U Crank! :Kaleun_Salute:

u crank
02-15-21, 12:47 PM
Very well then ... what would this be?

https://i.imgur.com/jJRU2nW.jpg?1

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 12:48 PM
military aircraft?

u crank
02-15-21, 01:00 PM
military aircraft?

Yes.

Jimbuna
02-15-21, 02:00 PM
Chinese?

u crank
02-15-21, 02:25 PM
Chinese?

No.

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 02:44 PM
B-58 Hustler?

u crank
02-15-21, 02:58 PM
B-58 Hustler?

Nope.

Eichhörnchen
02-15-21, 04:16 PM
A Douglas aircraft?

u crank
02-15-21, 04:47 PM
A Douglas aircraft?

No.

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 04:49 PM
boeing?

u crank
02-15-21, 05:28 PM
boeing?

No.

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 08:25 PM
jet or propeller?

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 09:04 PM
Just to cover bases. Turboprop?

u crank
02-15-21, 09:09 PM
jet or propeller?

Just to cover bases. Turboprop?

Well I was thinking how I would answer Aktungbby.

Yes turboprop.

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 09:18 PM
Well I was thinking how I would answer Aktungbby.

Yes turboprop.

Tupolev Tu-95.

u crank
02-15-21, 09:37 PM
Tupolev Tu-95.

And that would be it.

https://i.imgur.com/2GpLWfF.jpg?2

Over to you. :salute:

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 09:40 PM
The Tu-95 was the first thing I thought of for a turboprop with those little windows not unlike the B-58 crew windows.
https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/B-EMYPPy3YGyCbMzSMm5PEqCnp4=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/b9/82/b9825ec3-cf9c-4ef6-83d5-1d778b2019f0/800px-convair_b-58a_hustler_in_flight_sn_59-2442_photo_taken_on_june_29_1967_061101-f-1234p-019.jpg

Soooo, what is this one?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2286/UJzGgA.png

d@rk51d3
02-15-21, 09:46 PM
The Tu-95 was the first thing I thought of for a turboprop with those little windows not unlike the B-58 crew windows.
https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/B-EMYPPy3YGyCbMzSMm5PEqCnp4=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/b9/82/b9825ec3-cf9c-4ef6-83d5-1d778b2019f0/800px-convair_b-58a_hustler_in_flight_sn_59-2442_photo_taken_on_june_29_1967_061101-f-1234p-019.jpg

Soooo, what is this one?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2286/UJzGgA.png

It's not a Goggomobile :03:

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 09:50 PM
It's not a Goggomobile :03:

Um, no?

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 10:37 PM
Convair F106 Delta Dart?

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 10:39 PM
Convair F106 Delta Dart?

Yes! Well I thought that would take a few tries but no. The LVAC rules again.

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 10:50 PM
Nonsense I looked up the tail number 80797; and it's practically the first one in a slew of birds from Cessnas on up with the same #. I knew it was Calif. Air National Guard from college ROTC in the '70's. I just got the same Golden Bear on my two -day old CA realID driver License!

d@rk51d3
02-15-21, 10:55 PM
And the "Dart" was a model of Goggo. :up:

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 11:03 PM
And the "Dart" was a model of Goggo. :up:

Please expand on that as I can't link it.

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 11:05 PM
Nonsense I looked up the tail number 80797; and it's practically the first one in a slew of birds from Cessnas on up with the same #. I knew it was Calif. Air National Guard from college ROTC in the '70's. I just got the same Golden Bear on my two -day old CA realID driver License!


Well I didn't search that number outside of California 80797 and it led nowhere so I messed up.

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 11:09 PM
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.VB4Q3_AdjBrpmcKrkojvJwHaEF?pid=ImgDet&rs=1 The Australian Goggo Dart car As soon as d@rk51d3 gave me the hint I was on the scent. I'll have sumpin' in a jiff...

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 11:24 PM
...jiff: what is this? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11798 Big hint: I own one and actually have brass shells for it!

Buddahaid
02-15-21, 11:26 PM
It's a firearm.

Aktungbby
02-15-21, 11:34 PM
yup.

d@rk51d3
02-15-21, 11:51 PM
percussion cap starters pistol?

Buddahaid
02-16-21, 12:02 AM
Looks like a break barrel and almost a lever action, even hints of a flintlock. Hmmmm.....

Aktungbby
02-16-21, 12:16 AM
percussion cap starters pistol?yer half right

Looks like a break barrel and almost a lever action, even hints of a flintlock. Hmmmm.....it is a break barrel with lever action...

Jimbuna
02-16-21, 05:38 AM
Sharps 1874 Buffalo Gun?

Aktungbby
02-16-21, 10:21 AM
Nope, Considerably shorter and issued in 1861; I have a similar short model type in a Sharps as well though:hmmm: ( at my age, I'm no Quigley!):haha:

Jimbuna
02-16-21, 01:52 PM
Springfield Model 1861?

Aktungbby
02-16-21, 04:38 PM
Nope

Buddahaid
02-16-21, 06:03 PM
Steven's Crackshot Model 26?

Aktungbby
02-16-21, 08:22 PM
Nope. Not a .22. The weapon in the puzzle is military issue, fired a 'cannelured
round, Minie pure-lead bullet with utterly devastating results to any recipient on the battlefields of the 1860's. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Minie_ball_design_harpers_ferry_burton.jpg Big hint; this would have been required equipment for the warrior carrying the weapon... https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IvoAAOSw-1ZcdWnb/s-l1600.jpg

ET2SN
02-16-21, 10:16 PM
Nonsense I looked up the tail number 80797; and it's practically the first one in a slew of birds from Cessnas on up with the same #. I knew it was Calif. Air National Guard from college ROTC in the '70's. I just got the same Golden Bear on my two -day old CA realID driver License!


Speaking of tail numbers, you can find a very detailed list of them at:

http://joebaugher.com/

Just page down and select Army/Air Force, Navy/Marines, or Coast Guard.

These are long lists based on aircraft type and year (the year refers to when the aircraft was ordered, not built). Joe's "hit-to-miss" ratio is very high although there are some slight errors, but they are very rare. :up:

Jimbuna
02-17-21, 07:40 AM
Pattern 1861 Enfield musketoon?

Aktungbby
02-17-21, 10:43 AM
Nope but your getting warmer, The musketoon doesn't break open. I wish i'd bought the one that was offered when I got my Two band Enfield> https://i2.wp.com/regtqm.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/GUN-050-2T.jpg?fit=250%2C42&ssl=1 Here's another shot of this puzzle>https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11807 BIG HINT: the troops did not like this weapon as the round casing tended to jam in the breech when fired.

u crank
02-17-21, 10:52 AM
Sharps 1853 carbine, .52 Caliber?

Aktungbby
02-17-21, 11:06 AM
nope you're getting warm go up .02 calibre; The Sharps breech lowers to load, the weapon I'm posting 'breaks' to load. Both are single shot weapons. My own .45-70 round Shiloh Sharps ciarbine is a superior weapon to the puzzle: easier to load and no jamming on extraction...especially when on a fractious horse in a re-enactment.

Jimbuna
02-17-21, 01:08 PM
M1861?

u crank
02-17-21, 03:10 PM
Gallager carbine?

Aktungbby
02-17-21, 05:05 PM
Bingo! It is the Gallagher carbine, the leather ring would hold the barrel to the saddle while slung to the rider by the clip-on to the carbine ring to prevent loss in a gallop. The percussion cap spare in the stock's patchbox was indicative of the inferior weapon's blackpowder fouling tendency. The brass shell had no primer and each was wrapped in nitrate paper to insure ignition from the percussion cap which caused the casing to jam...not good in the midst of battle...hence its unpopularity with troopers. My own is an ERMA Werke reproduction and I've the mold to cast the .54 caliber minie balls...slightly smaller than the .58 Springfield or .577 Enfield full infantry rifled-musket.
Over to U-crank!:Kaleun_Salute:

u crank
02-17-21, 06:17 PM
Ok then what would this be?

https://i.imgur.com/PPaH3X7.jpg?1

Aktungbby
02-17-21, 09:51 PM
In Italy?

u crank
02-17-21, 10:17 PM
In Italy?

Not Italy.

Jimbuna
02-18-21, 06:15 AM
Greece?

u crank
02-18-21, 07:26 AM
Greece?

No.

Jimbuna
02-18-21, 07:54 AM
Europe?

u crank
02-18-21, 07:56 AM
Europe?

Yes.

Jimbuna
02-18-21, 08:12 AM
France?

u crank
02-18-21, 08:25 AM
France?

No.

Aktungbby
02-18-21, 10:34 AM
Spain?

u crank
02-18-21, 11:20 AM
Spain?

No.

mapuc
02-18-21, 12:34 PM
Eastern part of Europe ?

Markus

Jimbuna
02-18-21, 12:51 PM
Germany?

Eichhörnchen
02-18-21, 01:01 PM
Turkey?

u crank
02-18-21, 01:04 PM
Eastern part of Europe ?

Markus

No.

Germany?

Yes.

Turkey?

No.

Jimbuna
02-18-21, 01:24 PM
Museum?

u crank
02-18-21, 01:50 PM
Museum?

It is open to the public for tours but I don't think it would be called a museum.