Who / What / Where Game

[Jimbuna]

edit: but why is it stationary when it is on a vessel?


Fire box?

Not a fire box but getting closer.

In the complete picture the object is positioned on a quayside trolley waiting to be hoisted aboard during the construction of the vessel....pre WWI

[Buddahaid]

The galley oven?

[u crank]

Was this part of the ship's propulsion system?

[Catfish]

Something to do with fishery?


OT here you know that Herring is Germany's "fish of the year" in 2021, but the prize will not be awarded to them due to disagreements of their nationality.

[Jimbuna]

The galley oven?

Not in the galley.

[Jimbuna]

Something to do with fishery?

Nothing fish related.

Was this part of the ship's propulsion system?

Yes

[Eichhörnchen]

Heat exchanger?

[Jimbuna]

Heat exchanger?

You're an ants whisker away.

[Catfish]

Quick shot - Parsons turbine exchanger?

[Jimbuna]

Quick shot - Parsons turbine exchanger?

Not an exchanger but the piece of gear closely related in use and function.

My apologies for anyone not having a marine engineering background but the two are very closely linked and the vessel in question had more than one.

[Catfish]

Ooff .. a condensator/steam separator?

[Jimbuna]

Ooff .. a condensator/steam separator?

Yep, a condenser.

So which vessel?

[Catfish]

Great Eastern?


I don't think so, but i'm out now anyway, good luck :)

[Jimbuna]

Great Eastern?


I don't think so, but i'm out now anyway, good luck :)

Not as long ago as that but on the right track.

[Aktungbby]

was this ship converted to military use at Jutland?

[Jimbuna]

was this ship converted to military use at Jutland?

I don't believe so.

[Aktungbby]

auxiliary armed merchnt?

[skidman]

Aircraft/Seaplane carrier?

[Aktungbby]

Not a train Markus



Good explanation and yes WW2 but also WWI

Not intended as a warship when built but converted to one soon after.

Would this be a British vessel?

It would.

Yep, a condenser.

So which vessel? A vessel not intended as a warship but converted to such would be a British Auxiliary or ''armed merchant cruiser''. Very few survived WW I or were scrapped prior to WW II...:hmmm: SS Orbita; used in WWI as AMC & WW II as troop ship? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/RMS_Orbita.jpg

[skidman]

Yep, could be an armored merchant, or an aircraft carrier like the TSS Manxman:

She was built as a steamer for passengers in 1904

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Manxman.JPG/300px-Manxman.JPG

Then served as an aircraft carrier in WW1 as HMS Manxman

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/HMS_Manxman_pictured_during_her_Great_War_service. .JPG/1280px-HMS_Manxman_pictured_during_her_Great_War_service. .JPG

And finally a troop transport in WW2 as HMS Caduceus.

Manxman? I almost can feel the vibrations of a Tourist Trophy bike between my legs. :oops:

[Aktungbby]

Well I'm always in favor of any thing that could launch a SopwithBBY :D but Jimbuna, famous for his astute hint accuracy, would surely have responded to the era's triple-expansion steam power condeser clues with "only temporarily" .:shucks: In the case of TSS Manxman inasmuch as she was coverted to an oil burner shortly after WWI to stay operational during a coal strike that shackled the steamships of the shipping line.:hmmm: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/b5/08/8cb5085db2ab34a697cf88c09699f8bc.gif

[Jimbuna]

auxiliary armed merchnt?

Aircraft/Seaplane carrier?

Neither unfortunately.

MASSIVE Clue: Usually sailed without an escort.

[Catfish]

^ so a fast liner/troop transport, or a "Q-ship" ? :hmmm:

"Q-ship"?

[u crank]

Hospital ship?

[Catfish]

Hospital ship?
I thought it was changed/reconstructed to a warship? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

^ so a fast liner/troop transport, or a "Q-ship" ? :hmmm:

"Q-ship"?

Not a Q-ship but check your text above :03:

[Jimbuna]

Hospital ship?

Nope but check the above post :03:

[Buddahaid]

HMS Cap Trafalgar?

[Jimbuna]

I thought it was changed/reconstructed to a warship? :hmmm:



I honestly thought once the condenser was guessed the vessel would be quickly identified.

MASSIVE CLUE

This vessel saw service during both world wars in a variety of roles, some of which have been mentioned above and she does feature in GWX :salute:

[Jimbuna]

HMS Cap Trafalgar?

See above

[Catfish]

I don't get it. A passenger ship or liner is not a warship (even as a troop transport), a monitor seldom sailed without escort.

[Buddahaid]

Merchant raider. Anyway it was just a guess before running off to work.

https://youtu.be/0Ciw6vXasC0

[Jimbuna]

She had a few roles during her career and her first conversion turned her into an auxiliary cruiser (according to Wiki anyway).

[u crank]

RMS Aquitania.

[Jimbuna]

RMS Aquitania.

Spot on Marcel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Aquitania

https://i.postimg.cc/C53P3xyN/Untitled12.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Over to you :salute:

[u crank]

Right then, what would this be?

https://i.imgur.com/ghlxO0U.jpg?1

[mapuc]

One of the tower on Hogwarts great hall
(of course it isn't)

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A castle?

[Aktungbby]

is it in Canada?:D

[Catfish]

She had a few roles during her career and her first conversion turned her into an auxiliary cruiser (according to Wiki anyway).
A Royal Mail Ship becomes a "warship", then a hospital ship. Ok, some say the Lusitania also was a warship, but ..

[Aktungbby]

A Royal Mail Ship becomes a "warship", then a hospital ship. Ok, some say the Lusitania also was a warship, but ..it was certainly carrying munitions and thus a proper military target....if not a 'strategic' defeat though, for pissing off the 'Mericans; ultimately leading to their involvement in hostilities.

[Catfish]

P'd off the US ok, but official history tells us the sinking was a war crime, and that the Zimmermann telegram lead to the declaration of war.
But let's not go into this here, or i might develop into a "Reichsbuerger".

[u crank]

One of the tower on Hogwarts great hall
(of course it isn't)

Markus

:D Nope.

A castle?

No.

is it in Canada?:D

Of course.

[Jimbuna]

Canadian Parliament?

[u crank]

Canadian Parliament?

No.

[Jimbuna]

Privately owned?

[u crank]

Privately owned?

Yes.

[Aktungbby]

In Halifax?:D

[u crank]

In Halifax?:D

Nope.

[Aktungbby]

Quebec?

[u crank]

Quebec?

Oui.

[Aktungbby]

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/1b/aa/b2/72/photo8jpg.jpg Château Frontenac?

[u crank]

Château Frontenac?

That would be it.

https://i.imgur.com/LFQjDjs.jpg?2

Over to you.

:salute:

[Aktungbby]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuary_of_Saint_Lawrence :D I found it swiftly by chèquing 4 salt water first! :D Le Château overlooks the St. Lawrence Estuary ...just downstream from my relatives in Brockville! I'll have something in a jif! :yep:

[Buddahaid]

Cripes, I think my whole house would fit in one room!

[Aktungbby]

in a jif: Where, what, & why is it unique?https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11753

[d@rk51d3]

First image that come up on google search..... :har:

https://elektrikinfo.com/elektrik-direkleri/

Might want to try again.

[Aktungbby]

Yipes! over to you ! : world's first major river crossing power line built 1914 across the briney Carquinez Strait just outside my marina...all these years, I thought it was 'just another powerline'!:doh:
Kaleun_Salute:

[Buddahaid]

Can't say I ever noticed it but I was wondering if that was local by the terrain.

[Aktungbby]

Never arrived. :hmmm:

Anyhow, carry on gents. I just like to watch. :03: :D :oops:

First image that come up on google search..... :har:

https://elektrikinfo.com/elektrik-direkleri/

Might want to try again. d@rk51d3 preferring to watch & not post, post and my previous effort being miserably edited here's something a little more difficult: What/where is this? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11754

[Buddahaid]

Tyrell Corp building?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Z3ANItUXSc8/SjxSAcnwgPI/AAAAAAAAAIk/vSgdr6RZu_A/s1600/BladeRunner_010.jpg

[Aktungbby]

No but if you've got the customaRY medicinal herb on hand Light up and take this in ....and crank up the volume!:|\\ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umi0rvyDNgA

[skidman]

Stanley R. Mickelsen Safeguard complex in Nekoma, North Dakota?

[Jimbuna]

Stanley R. Mickelsen Safeguard complex in Nekoma, North Dakota?

How you got that (presuming it is right of course, which I believe it is) is totally beyond me.

[skidman]

It was featured in a TV program on abandoned places in the US aired just a couple of weeks ago over here. :03:

[Jimbuna]

It was featured in a TV program on abandoned places in the US aired just a couple of weeks ago over here. :03:

Lucky bugga :)

[Aktungbby]

OVER 2 Skidman!:Kaleun_Salute: Luck is oft the thing; example: I had only just read about Chinese fighters in Barron's for sale to India, when Jimbuna posted it the next day in this thread...Poor El Whacko went nuts on that one!:O: I know nuthin' 'bout Sino-fighters! I came across the pyramid while looking up electric towers under 'abandoned military bases worldwide'. :salute: https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL05la29tYS1QeX JhbWlkcy5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIjEyMDB4PiJdLFsi cCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcXVhbGl0eSA4MSAtYXV0by1vcmllbn QiXV0/Nekoma-Pyramids.jpg

[skidman]

What and where?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h77v2l24yt101nh/oomfme.png?raw=1

[u crank]

Inside of a nuclear reactor cooling tower?

[skidman]

Cooling tower? Yes. Nuclear reactor? No.

[u crank]

Is it still in use?

[skidman]

Nope.

[Aktungbby]

military. EDIT:jeeze! My 20,000th post at :subsim::k_confused::Kaleun_Party::()1: & my favorite thread to do it in!:Kaleun_Salute:

[mapuc]

I think we are in the renewable energy area

Markus

[skidman]

military.

Nope.

[skidman]

I think we are in the renewable energy area

Markus

I think you're right. This cooling tower however is not connected in any way to renewable energy.

[Jimbuna]

Germany?

[skidman]

Afraid not.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it the inside of a Scotsman's kilt?

[Aktungbby]

in Europe?

[Jimbuna]

Belguim?

[skidman]

Is it the inside of a Scotsman's kilt?

:D Afraid not, but if it was which clan's tartan would this be?

[Buddahaid]

A flue-gas stack?

[skidman]

in Europe?

Yep.

[skidman]

Belguim?

Nope.

[skidman]

A flue-gas stack?

No, it is just a cooling tower, from a technical point of view there is nothing special about it. There is something else that makes it special.

[Jimbuna]

France?

[Eichhörnchen]

Chernobyl

[skidman]

France?

Not France.

[skidman]

Chernobyl

No. But when I first saw it (as a teenager) it gave me some pretty dystopian nightmares.

[Buddahaid]

Luxembourg?

[u crank]

Holland?

[Aktungbby]

TAAADAA! https://petapixel.com/2016/10/13/photos-reveal-guts-massive-cooling-towers/ https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2016/10/02_coolingTowers.jpg Maybe Charleroi Belgium? my source has the pics (by belgian Reginald Van de Velde) but not the locations....

[Eichhörnchen]

You bby-bby-bbugger! I thought I'd nailed it then :har:

[Jimbuna]

I've already been on that site but it doesn't appear to tell you each location.

I believe that above is located in Charleroi which the last time I looked was in Belgium.

[skidman]

Luxembourg?

Not Luxembourg, but thanks for reminding me of a very nice riddle located there I might ask some day.

[skidman]

Holland?

Jammer genoeg niet.

[u crank]

Did you take this photo?

[skidman]

TAAADAA! https://petapixel.com/2016/10/13/photos-reveal-guts-massive-cooling-towers/ https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2016/10/02_coolingTowers.jpg Maybe Charleroi Belgium? my source has the pic but not the locations....

I've already been on that site but it doesn't appear to tell you each location.

I believe that above is located in Charleroi which the last time I looked was in Belgium.

The photos are spectacular (in even better resolution on his website), but it is not Charleroi and Jim is right: It could be on one of the photos (I'm quite sure it is) but that doesn't help to solve it.

[skidman]

Did you take this photo?

No and any clue about the origin of the shot would mean a giveaway.

[u crank]

England?

[skidman]

Oh yes.

[Jimbuna]

I once worked a few days in a cooling tower at Esso Antwerp and being hoisted in from the top wearing breathing apparatus was a real eerie experience as I recall.

I couldn't refurbish the valve I was working on quick enough so I could get out.

Calder Hall?

[Aktungbby]

Calder hall is/was nuclear. Willington power station? https://www.pinterest.com/pin/478929741628781536/

[skidman]

Not Calder Hall, not Willington.

[Jimbuna]

Are they still standing?

If they aren't they'll be the two towers at Tinsley but sadly they were brought down about ten years ago.

[Aktungbby]

Ironbridge cooling towers https://www.facebook.com/TelfordWrekin/videos/540002846841955/?v=540002846841955

[skidman]

Are they still standing?

If they aren't they'll be the two towers at Tinsley but sadly they were brought down about ten years ago.

Sorry for the delay. A virtual game of cards with real people that can not meet because of big C.

No, they were demolished. And not the Tinsley Towers, though some people erroneously think that this special event, that took place in the tower we are looking for, happened in South Yorkshire. It did not.

[skidman]

Ironbridge cooling towers https://www.facebook.com/TelfordWrekin/videos/540002846841955/?v=540002846841955

Very nice video, but no.

[Aktungbby]

Didcot power station?

[skidman]

No, but Didcot is closer than Ironbridge from a geographic point of view.

[u crank]

Drax Power Station North Yorkshire?

[skidman]

Nope.

[Aktungbby]

Ferrybridge power station ?

[skidman]

No. You are moving north, but drawing a line from Ironbridge to Didcot and going further in that direction will take you to...

[Eichhörnchen]

Satsop

[skidman]

Sorry Big E: The Satsop cooling towers are absolute beauties, but they are located in the state of Washington, were planned as part of a nuclear plant, and they are still standing.

[u crank]

Croydon Power Station?

And I now know why it is special.:D

[Buddahaid]

Brighton B Power Station? Ack, I believe u crank has got it.

[skidman]

Give that man a cigar. :up:

Back in my teenage years I went to the movies to watch "Brazil" by Terry Gilliam. Since then it has been one of my favorite films, because of the sharp contrast between the dream sequences and the dystopian reality, the special kind of absurd humor, and of course because of the final sequence that leads the spectator to believe the protagonist has escaped his torturer (Michael Palin) until the last scene that shows Sam still strapped to his chair, humming that little melody with open empty eyes. The sequence was filmed in the cooling tower of Croydon power station. And man, it gave me gooseflesh.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5yfo4mls8zolpk/brazil_tortureroom.jpg?raw=1

https://wharferj.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/b86bb1ed6d666c58a168a9b639a07c8b-orig-e1342652434987.jpg

http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1802/brazil_1-1.jpg

Over to u crank :salute:

[u crank]

That was a good one and very hard. I didn't know there were that many cooling towers.

Ok then what would this be exactly.

https://i.imgur.com/pv49RBF.jpg?1

[Buddahaid]

Give that man a cigar. :up:

Back in my teenage years I went to the movies to watch "Brazil" by Terry Gilliam. Since then it has been one of my favorite films, because of the sharp contrast between the dream sequences and the dystopian reality, the special kind of absurd humor, and of course because of the final sequence that leads the spectator to believe the protagonist has escaped his torturer (Michael Palin) until the last scene that shows Sam still strapped to his chair, humming that little melody with open empty eyes. The sequence was filmed in the cooling tower of Croydon power station. And man, it gave me gooseflesh.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5yfo4mls8zolpk/brazil_tortureroom.jpg?raw=1

https://wharferj.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/b86bb1ed6d666c58a168a9b639a07c8b-orig-e1342652434987.jpg

http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1802/brazil_1-1.jpg

Over to u crank :salute:

Yes! That's why it was clicking in my mind. Brilliant movie but don't watch the made for TV happy ending version.

Also that would be one of the creepiest Halloween costumes ever.

[Buddahaid]

That was a good one and very hard. I didn't know there were that many cooling towers.

Ok then what would this be exactly.

https://i.imgur.com/pv49RBF.jpg?1

Asbestos shingles?

[u crank]

Asbestos shingles?

No.

[Buddahaid]

Okay, I'll play. Is it a structure as in building?

And, I should add, my sig picture is from that movie. The Ministry of Information.

[Aktungbby]

copper plates?

[u crank]

Okay, I'll play. Is it a structure as in building?

And, I should add, my sig picture is from that movie. The Ministry of Information.

It is not a building.

I always wondered about that pic. Mine's from a Canadian TV show 'The Beachcombers'.

[u crank]

copper plates?

No.

[Jimbuna]

The hull of a ship?

[u crank]

The hull of a ship?

Yes.

[Jimbuna]

Merchant?

[u crank]

Merchant?

No.

[Aktungbby]

Frigate?

[skidman]

And, I should add, my sig picture is from that movie. The Ministry of Information.

Wow, I've never even noticed they had a logo in the movie. Using it as your signature picture raises a question though: Whose side are you on? :D

[skidman]

A warship's armor?

[u crank]

Frigate?

A warship's armor?

Not a Frigate or a warship.

[Aktungbby]

submarine?

[u crank]

submarine?

No.

[skidman]

Liner?

[u crank]

Liner?

Yes.

[Aktungbby]

British?

[Jimbuna]

Titanic?

[u crank]

British?

No.

[skidman]

20th century?

[Buddahaid]

SS Andrea Doria?

[Jimbuna]

French?

[Catfish]

The beached liner 'America'?

[u crank]

20th century?

Yes.

SS Andrea Doria?

No.

French?

No.

[skidman]

Sunk in WW2?

[Jimbuna]

Vaterland?

[u crank]

Sunk in WW2?

Vaterland?

No to both.

[Jimbuna]

Post WWII?

[u crank]

Post WWII?

Built during WW2.

[Aktungbby]

in europe?

[Buddahaid]

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

[Jimbuna]

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

Thanks, I was about to mention that and the SS America is the only liner I can find that was built and launched during WWII

[u crank]

Catfish mentioned SS America earlier. Is that it?

My apologies. I completely missed that post by Catfish. Thank you for pointing that out.

Yes that is it.

https://i.imgur.com/BAMVZNg.jpg?1

Once again sorry. Over to you. :salute:

[Aktungbby]

The hull rust color looks about right! is it in salt water??!!:har: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/2f/e1/ff2fe18d3bee1d3e76f152a99b654605.jpg:O:

[Catfish]

Hey Aktungbby, thanks for the update :)
Not much left of her, i know we cannot preserve all that has been built, but sometimes it is a shame ..

I have nothing ready, so will take a bit of time :oops:

[Aktungbby]

Please PM the winner so they get a reminder.At least someone tends la tiénda!:O:

[Catfish]

^ So you acted for u crank as a deputy? :k_confused:

Ok here is the new one - hope i did not post it before :oops:

https://i.imgur.com/eMtz160m.jpg?1

[Aktungbby]

Greek tireme? BELAY THAT, it's a minoan sailing type 4 vessel possibly from Thera with one row of oars not a bireme or trireme. note cables on stern: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b2/68/7b/b2687b5a4b1400d09fd3c35fc32fe80d.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Wk8bxki6Mokpw2a-ZDAIH_dqa8FO8ak7M5HG2KAYCnHQLjYE3yXnAPIuvaK4z77Yge 8nUO7St8_55qQC7IoMwbUq-chkxGIsnIrpk-SFC3zmmaY4i1o=w1280 In a previous existence I actually tried to escape Thera in one of these but the pumice layer on the sea's surface did me in!:o https://www.ancient.eu/img/r/p/750x750/749.jpg.webp?v=1599287404:oops::dead:

[mapuc]

It look like a tireme

Whether it's Greek is doubtful-Because the time when these sailed in the Mediterranean-the country Greece was divided in several states
(from my memory)

Markus

[skidman]

It is a model of the "real thing" in a museum?

[Catfish]

Umm .. this did no take long .. the vine-dark seas seem to have inspired Aktung :03:

@Mapuc not a trireme but going in the right direction, pre-"greek" so to speak.

@skidman A model in a museum, but there is no "real thing" - just what some historians and ship builders reconstructed from paintings

Aktungbby has it, a minoan vessel as it existed around the Thera explosion, paintings of those ships have been found on the walls in Akrotiri. The question is what this strange thing at the stern was used for. King Minos has been quoted to have thousand ships with which he put an end to piracy in on "his2 seas.
These special ships were most probably used for celebration, cult and war, not for trade. Some say this rear contraption was used as a ram, since the ships could be rowed forward and backward, and the rear "castle" could then have been used for warriors like archers, but i do not think so.
If you take a closer look at the frieze from Akrotiri, you may get an idea

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiffsfresko_von_Akrotiri#:~:text=Als%20Schiffsfr esko%20von%20Akrotiri%20wird,der%20Kykladeninsel%2 0Santorin%20entdeckt%20wurde.

translated english:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiffsfresko_von_Akrotiri%23:~:text%3DAls%2520Sch iffsfresko%2520von%2520Akrotiri%2520wird,der%2520K ykladeninsel%2520Santorin%2520entdeckt%2520wurde.

Evans "found" and dug out Knossos, but is was Schliemann who had located and wanted to do this, much like with the german paleontologists and then Leaky claiming the Olduvai area for himself, when Germany lost its colony after WW1 and had to withdraw their archeologists.
Akrotiri was then excavated by greek Spyridon Marinatos, and it was not immediately known whether the island of Thera had even belonged to the minoan culture. As was found out later Thera was probably the spiritual center of the Minoans, and such as the depicted boats sailed from Crete to Thera every spring, as soon the weather would allow it again after the winter storms.

Akrotori was then buried with tuff, pumice and lava during the Thera explosion at ~ 1550 before Christ, and only discovered in the 20ieth century by chance. Some palaces at the northern coast of crete were destroyed by the tsunami, though the civilisation as a whole survived.

Akrotiri and excavation site today: https://www.santorini-view.com/museums/excavations-of-akrotiri/

Complete model in the museum:

https://i.imgur.com/0mjWJyYl.jpg

Over to Aktungbby :salute:

[Aktungbby]

I'll be back shortly I believe u did not post the ship but discussed it few years ago in a PM regarding the Khufu's burial ship beside the great pyramid.. I still suffer from PTST 3600 years later and don't use pumice on my dry feet!:O: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Giseh_Sonnenbarke_07.jpg/1280px-Giseh_Sonnenbarke_07.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Shortly...being reference to time, What specifically is this...and how many little pink things does it have?:D https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11759:Kaleun_Los:

[Buddahaid]

A gyroscope clock with seventeen jewels?

[Catfish]

Shortly...being reference to time, What specifically is this...and how many little pink things does it have?:D [...] :Kaleun_Los:
A time machine? :O:

17 jewel incabloc?

[skidman]

Erm, um, hm. Google says it is the VENUS CALIBER 178 / BREITLING NAVITIMER AOPA 806. 17 Jewels (whatever that means).

https://calibercorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/venus-caliber-178.jpg

[Buddahaid]

Erm, um, hm. Google says it is the VENUS CALIBER 178 / BREITLING NAVITIMER AOPA 806. 17 Jewels (whatever that means).


Hahaha!:o:wah:

[Catfish]

:rotfl2:

17 jewels means that there are 16 bearings holding eight axles, made of rubies. The number is odd-numbered because there is one ruby added to act as a stoppage. ("Hemmung" in german, is stoppage the right translation?)
Rubies are being used because they are hard enough not be worn out by these steel axles for years. The mineral has a Mohs hardness of 9 and is relatively cheap - only diamond has 10.

[skidman]

Thanks Catfish. And praise the W/W/W thread, it teaches the really important things in life.

[Aktungbby]

Umm .. this did no take long .. the vine-dark seas seem to have inspired Aktung :03:
Some say this rear contraption was used as a ram, since the ships could be rowed forward and backward, and the rear "castle" could then have been used for warriors like archers, but i do not think so.
If you take a closer look at the frieze from Akrotiri, you may get an idea http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/ship127.jpgMethinks the stern gizmo which looks attached but not integrated into the hull construction was used with heavy lines for beaching the craft. Even Agammemnon's 1000 Greek ships spent the war's decade hauled up on the beach at Illium; the over-hanging Minoan sternpost would have precluded any ramming and it was only depicted on larger vessels which had multiple uses and were not dedicated warships.. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11760 As a true Napan all dark wine inspires ME!:Kaleun_Cheers: JEEZE while I dithered on sternposts... Yup it's the Venus 178 movement; no Incablok on mine though. I'm wearing my vintage Wakmann chronograph with with the movement as I post:https://i.etsystatic.com/9265706/r/il/959b14/1078290458/il_794xN.1078290458_iif9.jpg Over to the Skidmann:salute:

[skidman]

What's this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o7a4umws9slig49/vdv.png?raw=1

[Buddahaid]

A bell from the 1936 Olympic Stadium's bell tower.

[skidman]

Yep. The ministry of information strikes back :03:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mt6bg8mu2mc69b/Bildschirmfoto%202021-01-24%20um%2000.31.57.png?raw=1

Over to Buddahaid :salute:

[Buddahaid]

It just seemed the only possibility.

Okay then. What is this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7421/USU1Ed.png

[Aktungbby]

A 40's aircraft?

[Buddahaid]

Yes it is.

[Aktungbby]

We'll have to rename this the 'SLAM-Dunk What'sis' thread!:haha:

[Catfish]

^ now we're talking.. you can send me some bottles of Napa wine, and i'll finally find out the truth about .. everything :D

OT from here regarding any new WWW (how fitting with www.google .. :O:) riddle

@Aktungbby:
I remember our pms.. i think i asked what you made of this frieze scene and the stern protrusions but we did not discuss this further. Those ships did not stay in the water for long, it seems they were usually pulled out on land, and of course for months during the winter storms. They had stone sheds for their ships for protection, in almost all harbours.

We do not know much about the building details, whether they used planks (i think so, derived from the dugout canoes being used all around the cyclades = northern greek islands roughly formed like a ring or cycle, on a map) and later adding more freeboard via planks, to make it more seaworthy, but we do not know whether they used nails (wood or bronze) or burrings (furrings?) to connect them.

One of the boats' hull is also shown as painted with birds and dolphins, and it may be that they used some painted cloth to 1. protect the wood from drying and springing leaks in the hot mediterranean sun (still done today, hanging wet towels overboard on wooden boats in the summer for protection), or 2. to make them water-tight at all.

This exhibition featured the view that the stern protrusions were used as rams, while also showing a version of this arrangement to better pull it out of the water as you described. We can't be sure, until we build a real replica and try it out.

I know that you are also sailing, so my theory is:
Looking at the frieze i noticed that some boats are being rowed or paddled, others only use the wind, or both. There is always that helmsman/tillerman/'cox'(?) holding a rudder at the the right "starboard - steuerbord Steuer=rudder!" side, like with those later Viking ships.
Sometimes two rudders and helmsmen (both sides) are shown, but the boats with this rear contraption only show one, at the "right"/starboard side.

Those boats had no real keel, and of course not one like we use today on smaller yachts, so could it be this rear "stabiliser" (for loss of a better word) is a kind of help to keep the boat on course through the water, while cutting across with less effort (only one helmsman/one rudder needed here)? (even yard-rigged boats can cut across, if only up to 60 degrees or so, if at all).
The ropes being there to lift the steering help out, or deploy it, into the water.. :hmmm:
What do you think?

All the best,
Kai

[u crank]

Is that a jet engine on the left?

[Buddahaid]

Yes it is.

[u crank]

Arado Ar.234 Blitz?

[Buddahaid]

Not the Ar.234.

[u crank]

Is it German?

[Buddahaid]

Yes, it is German.

[u crank]

Junkers Ju 287?

[Buddahaid]

The the beast. A four engine jet bomber with fixed landing gear.

It probably made Junkers a bit miffed having to use the BMW engine instead of their own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_287

[u crank]

OK.

What exactly is this?

https://i.imgur.com/sFVzljg.jpg?1

[Buddahaid]

Is that wood?

[u crank]

Is that wood?

Not wood.

[Aktungbby]

clay? As in pottery?:

[skidman]

Man made?

[u crank]

clay? As in pottery?:

No.

Man made?

Not man made.

[skidman]

Aerial photo?

[u crank]

Aerial photo?

No.

[Catfish]

Space photo? Like the rings of Saturn?

[Jimbuna]

Part of a rock formation?

[u crank]

Space photo? Like the rings of Saturn?

No.

Part of a rock formation?

Yes.

[skidman]

In the US?

[u crank]

In the US?

No.

[Eichhörnchen]

Canadian Shield (Laurentian Plateau)

[u crank]

Canadian Shield (Laurentian Plateau)

No, not in North America.

[Jimbuna]

South America?

[u crank]

South America?

No.

[Buddahaid]

Wave Rock Australia?

[u crank]

Wave Rock Australia?

And you are right mate.

https://i.imgur.com/L7RUyV2.jpg?1

Over to you Buddahaid.

:salute:

[Buddahaid]

Interesting rock formation I'd never heard of before. I found it searching images of geologic weathering, or was that rock weathering?

Anyway, what is this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7210/fP2RuD.png

[skidman]

Japanese?

[Buddahaid]

Japanese?

Not from Nihon.

[Catfish]

It looks familiar at first, but none fits :hmmm:

propeller plane?

[u crank]

Is it WW2 vintage?

[Buddahaid]

It looks familiar at first, but none fits :hmmm:

propeller plane?

Yes it is prop driven.

[Jimbuna]

Havilland Hornet?

[Buddahaid]

Absolutely. I'm not surprised you called it.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9003/WkdxVX.png

[Jimbuna]

'Called it' I was the bloody pilot :)

https://i.postimg.cc/BbgV2nxh/liaranimatedanimationli-1.gif (https://postimages.org/)

I'll put something up in the morning.

[Jimbuna]

Just come across this....what is it?

https://i.postimg.cc/kGzt1xFD/gggggg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

It's part of some building, that for sure.

The first question is in which country and city.

I guess it's Britain-London

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Looks like an Ionic Moderne column, or a facsimile of one. Is it a bank?

[Eichhörnchen]

Museum?

[Jimbuna]

It's part of some building, that for sure.

The first question is in which country and city.

I guess it's Britain-London

Markus

In direct answer to your question.....London is correct.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like an Ionic Moderne column, or a facsimile of one. Is it a bank?

Museum?

Neither unfortunately and despite the fact I've been to London in three figure numbers over the years I never knew this existed even though I guess I've probably seen it on a few occasions.

[u crank]

Is it a government building?

[Jimbuna]

Not a building.

[u crank]

Is it a monument?

[Jimbuna]

Is it a monument?

It is.

[Catfish]

"The Monument", London. :03:

[Jimbuna]

"The Monument", London. :03:

Yes, as quick and easy as that :yep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Great_Fire_of_London

https://i.postimg.cc/DyLYMy3Z/the-top-of-the-monument-situated-at-the-site-of-the-great-fire-of-CPJ925.jpg (https://postimg.cc/KRcNKbzS)

Over to you Kai :salute:

[Catfish]

Thanks.. again i have none ready - this evening (GMT) :yep:

I guess you will be celebrating, so i hope Ann and you have a nice party :up:

[Jimbuna]

Thanks.. again i have none ready - this evening (GMT) :yep:

I guess you will be celebrating, so i hope Ann and you have a nice party :up:

Appreciated Kai :up:

[Catfish]

Ok, what is this ...

https://i.imgur.com/zGyK0fHm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

GERMAN?

[Buddahaid]

Fw 190C V18 prototype. Cool beans.

[Aktungbby]

...otherwise known as das kängaruh! :yeah::Kaleun_Salute:

[Catfish]

@Aktungbby yes, german

@Buddhaid: you got it!
Experimental high altitude fighter Focke Wulf 190 V18 nicknamed "Kangaroo" (@Aktungbby - yes!), with a second giant Hirth exhaust-turbocharger.

translation by Google:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_B_und_C

https://i.imgur.com/tthnTJLl.jpg

Lot of interesting stories about how it flew and behaved, but the giant air intake spoiling any performance wins, so the project was abandoned and the rest of the V18 prototypes were rebuilt to the high altitude TA 152 Kurt Tank version of the 190.

This aged like milk again.. :hmmm:

Over to Buddahaid :salute:

[Buddahaid]

I'll be about three hours to post something. I never knew about that aircraft but the wing just looked like an Fw-190.

[Aktungbby]

the Linda Vista Continuum scores again!:O::Kaleun_Party:

[Buddahaid]

LVC strong.

[Buddahaid]

What is this? Hopefully this will be a bit more challenging than my last two outings, or is that innings?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2318/LBb3Hl.png

[Aktungbby]

Korean war fighter?

[Buddahaid]

Korean war fighter?

Never got that far but the right era.

[Aktungbby]

carrier aircraft?

[Buddahaid]

carrier aircraft?

Not likely.

[Aktungbby]

prototype?

[Buddahaid]

Oh yes.

[skidman]

Lockheed A-12?

[Catfish]

^ That would be a very strange angle, for a photograph
With the A 12 the cockpit is ahead of the jet intakes ..:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

XF-104 Starfighter?