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BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 09:06 AM
Bought new dvd of SH5 and did a clean install. Also did a clean install of JSGME and careful followed the step to install. I launch the game to do a test run and see if the mods are active but no go. I provided a screenshot and any help would be great. thanks

Defiance
05-10-14, 10:47 AM
Hiya,

In the 7.4.2 NewUI, there's a folder in it called MODS

In there will be the base mod (ByThe DarkWraith)

You place that in jsgme MODS folder, as you've done the rest i can see

As that above is the basis for the mod, the other items are optional

I use (not 100% of the time) eg :

das boot crew mod
new radio messages
no snorkel exhaust smoke
real nav

I assume as you load the game you do see the open horizons on game loadup (start new career etc, above should be open horizons, if that makes sense)

If not, i've just gotta meet the fiance, and will have a better squint at your pic with glasses on lol

TTFN

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 11:04 AM
No thats the problem when I load the game (Clean install) and just to test it I just put those two mods to see if they work or if JSGME has an issue. Well when I load I do not see the open horizon. Thats why I screenshot my SH5 file folder to see if there is an issue. I dont get it because when I modded SH5 via Steam i never had an issue but for some sort of reason the DVD version doesn't like me. :/\\!!

Another question. Do i need to create a new save at dock then enable mods or enable mods start the campaign then save?

Defiance
05-10-14, 12:51 PM
Hiya,

I know this sounds stupid but have you checked the actual innards of the mods

It's as if the mod folders are there but nothing in them for jsgme to use

Or if you can do a fresh dl of just those two mods (i guess you've already tried this though)

So from the top.... you removed all steam parts/installed dvd and patched it/installed jsgme installer into games directory/ran it to create shortcut and mods folder/placed (copied or unzipped etc etc) into mods folder/ran jsgme to install mods/and nothing

I'm at a loss, the pic seems to show empty folders (unless a refresh needed)

Also, in the pic it shows directory as ... steam ( F-drive (can't do F : as i get funny face lol)

I guess you have several drives like a lot of us, but why point the install to what seems to be an old steam folder ? (or did you just call it or leave it called steam)

I know drives don't make one bit of a diff but just curious as to the above

Can you try this .......... (read below as it can be a bonus in time to come)
Remove whole freshly installed stuff, then redo sh5 and patch it but send it right to F: so it ends up ... F:/ubisoft/silent hunter 5

Then if you have a rar/7zip/winrar of the jsgme, extract somewhere, then take the installer into that sh5 main part and try again

My dvd, i copy all to another drive, a lot faster to re-install off a hdd than a dvd when things go fubar

If the mods are intact and jsgme is still not using them, then without me ever having sh5 on steam i'd guess somewhere it's a steam associated problem

Still doesn't really explain why jsgme won't load mods if indeed they are intact

Or/also, try vanilla game, start career and do the tut (you can type in 'silentotto' on the missions page or whatever it's called, but i just do the tut quick)

Even with newui installed on its own it shows up in vanilla as i learned weeks back after a fresh install (reinstalled though as things went fubar lol)

Dunno what else to chuck at ya to try

(no idea if this makes sense) try dl'ing the ubisoft Uplay off their site, this is the way you are connecting right ? (told you it may sound stupid) i mean that nowhere after dvd install is steam coming into play ?

Perplexed

Post back when you can, i like a mystery

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 01:42 PM
F:steam is my HD for only games and steam because I have 3 other hard drives one for my OS and another to back up files. Also what i did was deleted JSGME and reinstalled it. open horizon and TDW mod I downloaded last night. I then extract the mods to my JSGME/mod folder and then they show up on the right side of the JSGME. I then load SH5 and I still see nothing different:hmmm:

Maybe i need to move the SH5 to my c drive and try because erased every trace of my SH5 from Steam (documents, saves, old mods, etc). I then did the CC cleaner as recommended and I even erased my old uplay and made a new account. I then download Sh5 from DVD and activated it. I then patched it to version 2 and then patched with the files recommended on the forum that totaled 9 files. I then downloaded JSGME and extracted to F:silenthunter5/JSGME. from there i downloaded open horizon 2 and TDW new UI. So moved the mods into F:silenthunter5/jsgme/mods folder and they are on the left side. I then moved to the to the right side and it says mod is active on the bottom of JSGME. I then started my SH5 game and nothing.

Defiance
05-10-14, 02:08 PM
Go into the jsgme 'MODS' folder

Inside the folder 'OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5' go into the 'data' folder, how many items can you see ? eg : i have 16 folders and 2 cfg's

And in the data folder for newui's how many ?

edit : the actual drive doesn't matter, i only use c: for games as it's a ssd, my three others are just fast hdd's

It just seems that when the mods are enabled (moved from the left of jsgme to the right) that they are then empty and jsgme has nothing to use

Not that it matters but i save dl's to either desktop or a download folder, extract etc, then copy mods then paste into the 'mods' folder, can't see any probs extracting directly to mods folder as long as it's the inside of the mods, both newui's and oh2.5 have the usable folders buried inside main unrarred/zipped folder

So you have to remove outer folder wrapper (funky terminology lol) to get the goodies inside

If you do try on main drive obviously post back hehe

You can try on other drive, unless something's hidden and corrupting i can't see it being of any help

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 02:12 PM
this what I have

Defiance
05-10-14, 02:29 PM
Heya,

Just had a thought ..............

Mod Validator

Disable those 2 mods/so no mods on right/right mouse click the newui on left and click explore/goto dat/applications/JSGME mod validator/click or double click (however you got folders setup to open (mines single click you see)) the validator and select sh5 and either allow reg check for directory or send it manually

See if that validator works, should show nothing much as there's nowt to check

Then enable the 2 mods and re-run validator, if that shows it's checking the 2 mods then i can't see it being anything to do with jsgme itself

Hope that makes sense

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 02:43 PM
I really appreciate the help with the trouble shooting. I did what you said and it asked me for a file path and i did both. this is the result

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 02:52 PM
Another question. Do i start the game unmodded and then save at port and them activate mods? Also when I activate Open Horizons 2 will something on the loading screen appear. Please elaborate of possible

Mikemike47
05-10-14, 02:59 PM
I really appreciate the help with the trouble shooting. I did what you said and it asked me for a file path and i did both. this is the result

Another question. Do i start the game unmodded and then save at port and them activate mods? Also when I activate Open Horizons 2 will something on the loading screen appear. Please elaborate of possible

Click on my signature link below and get the user guide. Read the *.pdf and it will answer your questions. Next, scan the error link section.

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 02:59 PM
I uninstalled all the mods out of the mods folder and downloaded Open Horizons 2 again and extracted straight to the mods folder in the JSGME file. The mod then appears on the left side and I right clicked the file and hit explore and then data but that as far as I can go because it lack appplication folder hmmmmm.

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 03:10 PM
Click on my signature link below and get the user guide. Read the *.pdf and it will answer your questions. Next, scan the error link section.

Ok i did a clean save then added mod (can you please tell me what I am looking for when i add Open Horizon 2 example load screen, icons). I looked at the error post and I also check to file location for data like you asked I posted pic. Any help would be great

Defiance
05-10-14, 03:11 PM
Hiya,

Ok, with that info we'll take it from the top .....................

I hope you still have at least those 2 mods as they were when you got them lastnight

I use winrar so mine look like the rar icon (obviously)

Re-download the jsgme from here ...........

http://www.gamefront.com/files/24225407/jsgme_setup.rar

Don't save it anywhere near sh5 install

Unrar/7zip/winrar the blighter

Then use copy and paste it into the main sh5 directory (Fdrive/ubisoft/silent hunter 5

Now run that installer

It will open make a MODS folder etc, just follow prompts

It will sens a shortcut to your desktop (if you allowed one to be made)

Now open that shortcut and accept any options to get jsgme sorted

Once you've opened the jsgme then copy and paste mods in fresh, like above extract elsewhere then copy into sh5 MODS folder manually

Once mods are in folder, with jsgme closed then u can delete the actual installer (but keep for future, that's served me well for years)

Now try and add newui first, then oh2.5 (also dl the grid patch for oh2.5, not needed to test but need it for career when you start)

So now you should have a working jsgme via the good old installer method

Now with newui's and oh2.5 enabled on the right, close jsgme and fire up sh5 (i always use a sh5/exe shortcut to taskbar, Uplay will then kick in and select sh5 and off ya go

Lemme know how ya make out

Defiance
05-10-14, 03:15 PM
After u click play via Uplay

When you get to the main page of game options, it should have Open Horizons over the career area

Defiance
05-10-14, 03:19 PM
Not got a handy pic storage area, so dl this and it's a screenshot

http://www.gamefront.com/files/24225423/sh5+2014-05-10+21-16-59-03.rar

No mistaking if OH not working lol

BLACK_FLAME
05-10-14, 03:31 PM
Ok Defiance, unfortunately I have to go to work so when I get back I will read everything over and follow your examples. I appreciate it and Ill post back tonight/tomorrow and let you know the outcome. over and out :salute:

Defiance
05-10-14, 03:33 PM
Sorry,

I missed a post you did a while back

If i were you, i would start career with no mods in

Do the tutorial vanilla style, it don't take long

Then once you finish and dock, that's where the game auto saves, that's your 'bunker save', so exit at the bunker save from game, close it right down

With you doing that tutorial mission sinking ships and using map n tc etc you will dock (i use tc 1024 as game suggests and have a smoke (almost quit now :) ))

Then add mods, then u will see a different loading screen and moreover the open horizon as in pic i uploaded

Then start new career, this is now your Open Horizons career, if you start with OH and newui ok, then i suggest just exit game, close it down

Have a drink n relax, and read up any mods you want to add, check for eg : sobers lit of mods or sjizzles or just scan down mod forum section for ideas/inspiration

As you now are at bunker save and all but the toughest mods can be installed at this stage

If you want say Real U-boat Performance you have to start a new career for that to work properly (just using it as an example)

So when you hear/read a mod needs to be installed on a bunker save, that's all it is, it's just where the game kinda starts from and ends (if you know what i mean) saves during play are ok for a lot of mods, but besides mods needing a new career i wait until bunkered, exit game, install mod/s etc etc and relaunch game and go choose new mission/upgrades/set sail

BLACK_FLAME
05-11-14, 10:09 AM
Hiya,

Ok, with that info we'll take it from the top .....................

I hope you still have at least those 2 mods as they were when you got them lastnight

I use winrar so mine look like the rar icon (obviously)

Re-download the jsgme from here ...........

http://www.gamefront.com/files/24225407/jsgme_setup.rar

Don't save it anywhere near sh5 install

Unrar/7zip/winrar the blighter

Then use copy and paste it into the main sh5 directory (Fdrive/ubisoft/silent hunter 5

Now run that installer

It will open make a MODS folder etc, just follow prompts

It will sens a shortcut to your desktop (if you allowed one to be made)

Now open that shortcut and accept any options to get jsgme sorted

Once you've opened the jsgme then copy and paste mods in fresh, like above extract elsewhere then copy into sh5 MODS folder manually

Once mods are in folder, with jsgme closed then u can delete the actual installer (but keep for future, that's served me well for years)

Now try and add newui first, then oh2.5 (also dl the grid patch for oh2.5, not needed to test but need it for career when you start)

So now you should have a working jsgme via the good old installer method

Now with newui's and oh2.5 enabled on the right, close jsgme and fire up sh5 (i always use a sh5/exe shortcut to taskbar, Uplay will then kick in and select sh5 and off ya go

Lemme know how ya make out

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, thank you so much. I deleted the old JSGME and downloaded from the link provided and did exactly what you said. I then added open horizon 2 as a test and when I loaded the game the same menu as the picture you sent opened up and says open horizons 2. Again thank you so much and this is why I will donate to this community because of awesome people like you. Also I think my JSGME file I had originally downloaded was corrupt that I got from subsim so maybe Admin should update this in the JSGME section to prevent issues like this in the future. Again THANK YOU! :yeah:

Defiance
05-11-14, 12:48 PM
Hiya,

Glad it's sorted :up:

Keep that jsgme saved for future, and if space permits, while testing etc, keep your dvd copy copied onto a hdd, faster for re-installs

BLACK_FLAME
05-11-14, 04:10 PM
Well do and again thank you!