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nikimcbee
05-01-14, 02:59 PM
Don't smurf with my bacon man!:down:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/377003/daily-mail-uk-subways-drop-bacon-and-ham-menu-comply-halal-andrew-johnson

In some respects, I'm kinda surprised they (fundy islam) hasn't pushed grocery stores to get rid of ham.:hmmm:
There are a lot of Muslims where I work and I'm kinda surprised the company cafeteria hasn't had any complaints.
Don't mess with my bacon sandwich.
I hope all this religious stuff gets checked at the door(don't care what the faith is).

Betonov
05-01-14, 03:13 PM
Most Muslims wont push for a pork ban and will only be loud about it if there's no alternative.
If you can get a turkey or beef sandwich along with a pork sandwich they won't make a fuss.

I once ate pizza at work with a Muslim. We ordered half with pork ham and half with chicken ham and he had no objections.

Aktungbby
05-01-14, 03:18 PM
http://academy.justjobs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/pig-presentation-weather-in-hell.png They can all roast in 'HALAL' :O: with a little "pork and beans" on the side:woot: alongside Jim Morrison of the Doors.

Tribesman
05-01-14, 03:44 PM
Do you think this would ever fly in the US?
Are there dunkin' donuts that adjust their stock of goods to meet religious diets?
If so then it does fly in the US and has done for years

mapuc
05-01-14, 03:58 PM
As I wrote in my own thread "I don't hate" Most of the Muslim do not care if we eat pork, ham or other haram stuff. If they go to this places they order a sandwich wth chicken or fish(if that's available)

I'm 90 % sure it's the owner of Subway who have done this by them self. OK maybe they got some complains from radical Muslims(10%).

They done so to do the Muslim a favour

Markus

Tribesman
05-01-14, 04:14 PM
I'm 90 % sure it's the owner of Subway who have done this by them self. OK maybe they got some complains from radical Muslims(10%).

Markus
Why only 90%?
Its simple marketing. If I want to run a Chinese restaurant in an area where there are quite a lot of orthodox customers I adjust my menu and get an OK cert to advertise that the food is kosher.

Wolferz
05-01-14, 05:15 PM
Freedom of religion is a corner stone of American values but lately there have been those within the religious communities who have sought much more than their freedom to worship as they please. Some have taken things a few steps too far into the realm of religion based bigotry against people they don't approve of to the point of having legislation passed to give them extra rights to practice their bigotry without fear of legal repercussions. Thankfully this has only happened in a few states.
This is fundamentally wrong in my book. Depriving others of life, liberty and happiness based on your religious tenets goes against everything the founding fathers were trying to create. It sets a disturbing precedent for other religions to exploit. Sooner or later radical Islam might jump on the bandwagon. Hopefully for now they'll continue to co-exist with all us infidels and leave our pork out of the argument and on the menu. If you don't want to consume something, don't order it.:stare:

Live and let live I always say.:yep:

swamprat69er
05-01-14, 05:27 PM
Freedom of religion is a corner stone of American values but lately there have been those within the religious communities who have sought much more than their freedom to worship as they please. Some have taken things a few steps too far into the realm of religion based bigotry against people they don't approve of to the point of having legislation passed to give them extra rights to practice their bigotry without fear of legal repercussions. Thankfully this has only happened in a few states.
This is fundamentally wrong in my book. Depriving others of life, liberty and happiness based on your religious tenets goes against everything the founding fathers were trying to create. It sets a disturbing precedent for other religions to exploit. Sooner or later radical Islam might jump on the bandwagon. Hopefully for now they'll continue to co-exist with all us infidels and leave our pork out of the argument and on the menu. If you don't want to consume something, don't order it.:stare:

Live and let live I always say.:yep:

:up::agree:

fireftr18
05-01-14, 09:34 PM
Freedom of religion is a corner stone of American values but lately there have been those within the religious communities who have sought much more than their freedom to worship as they please. Some have taken things a few steps too far into the realm of religion based bigotry against people they don't approve of to the point of having legislation passed to give them extra rights to practice their bigotry without fear of legal repercussions. Thankfully this has only happened in a few states.
This is fundamentally wrong in my book. Depriving others of life, liberty and happiness based on your religious tenets goes against everything the founding fathers were trying to create. It sets a disturbing precedent for other religions to exploit. Sooner or later radical Islam might jump on the bandwagon. Hopefully for now they'll continue to co-exist with all us infidels and leave our pork out of the argument and on the menu. If you don't want to consume something, don't order it.:stare:

Live and let live I always say.:yep:

You need to read the bills, not rely on what the news says. These bills aren't about allowing bigotry based on religion, they're about preventing one group of forcing another into a situation that is morally offensive, and about preventing laws that interfere with a reasonable practice of religion.

Cybermat47
05-01-14, 09:57 PM
If you don't want to eat a pig, don't order a pig. Most Muslims understand that :doh:

They can all roast in 'HALAL' :O: with a little "pork and beans" on the side:woot: alongside Jim Morrison of the Doors.

Eh?

Stealhead
05-01-14, 10:35 PM
If you don't want to eat a pig, don't order a pig. Most Muslims understand that :doh:






It is a little more complicated than that.Halal is a lot like kosher.They can not eat certain things and they have to prepared in a certain manner.So a Muslim fully following Halal can not even consume food made in the same kitchen that pork was made in or at least not the uncleaned pots and pans and such.


Of course in the US religious foods do fly if you ever look at a given product say a can of Coke or a box of Cheerios it will have a kosher emblem on the box some place. Usually a K in a circle or a U in a circle other times it is a stylized torah in a circle.

I challenge any American not to find a food product in their home that does not have a kosher mark on it.Just saying.

which one is which? I like the last one "Texas Halal" it is like a whole other country praise Allah".

http://njjewishnews.com/tribe/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/kosher_symbols%5E1-390x379.jpg
http://www.isawthelightministries.com/halallogos.jpg
Not that I have anything against jewish people or muslims I am just making the point that religious foods are very very common.

That Coke or Pepsi in your grubby hands will have a "U" on it.

Forcing others to follow your way that I dislike.

Cybermat47
05-02-14, 02:08 AM
The comments for that article make me want to kill myself.

I'm Bryn Watkins, BTW.

Buddahaid
05-02-14, 02:28 AM
The comments for that article make me want to kill myself.

I'm Bryn Watkins, BTW.
Don't mean to be rude, but that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! :har:

TarJak
05-02-14, 03:14 AM
Flying pigs?

Cybermat47
05-02-14, 03:25 AM
Don't mean to be rude, but that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! :har:

It's fine :)

Jimbuna
05-02-14, 04:45 AM
Flying pigs?

Don't tell me your surprised.

TarJak
05-02-14, 06:42 AM
Moi? Non!

swamprat69er
05-02-14, 07:12 AM
http://youtu.be/m89aSHzFCpc

Tribesman
05-02-14, 07:13 AM
The comments for that article make me want to kill myself.

It's the NRO re-doing a Daily Fail piece with extra input from the beckian skool of lunacy.
Did you really expect rational thought or even thought to make much of an appearance in the comments section?

Betonov
05-02-14, 08:13 AM
Slovenia is safe for now.

The Serb population would start a riot if there was one locale where they wouldn't serve pork

Stealhead
05-02-14, 10:00 PM
The comments for that article make me want to kill myself.

You have to do it in such a manner that is not offensive to any ethnic,relgious,economic,gender specfic or non specfic group.:D

August
05-02-14, 10:43 PM
Reminds me of a documentary I watched the other day about the Sepoy Rebellion of 1857 when the British managed to offend both their Muslim and the Hindu native troops (called Sepoy's) simultaneously by issuing them cartridges (the kind you have to bite) greased with what the Sepoy's feared was either pig or beef fat.

mapuc
05-03-14, 12:07 PM
What's makes me even more angry than Subway and other franchise doing those things is politicians who tries to earn some extra points by saying things what many ordinary people want to hear. (In Denmark they say play on people's feelings)

This or those politicians have never been thinking of making a ban on halal or other religious stuff

Markus

swamprat69er
05-03-14, 12:12 PM
politicians who tries to earn some extra points by saying things what many ordinary people want to hear
Markus

Our politicians do it all the time. Those promises are called 'campaign promises'. Just a pack of lies to get elected and then collect their wages and their gold plated pensions and do as they please and to hell with the people that elected them in the first place.

Tribesman
05-03-14, 12:30 PM
What's makes me even more angry than Subway and other franchise doing those things is politicians who tries to earn some extra points by saying things what many ordinary people want to hear. (In Denmark they say play on people's feelings)

This or those politicians have never been thinking of making a ban on halal or other religious stuff

Markus
Why do these companies actions make you angry at all?
These are perfectly normal everyday business decisions, why on earth do you feel angry about them?

Wolferz
05-03-14, 12:39 PM
One thing is for sure here in America. With all the pork barrel shenanigans in congress, there will never be a Muslim senator or congress critter.:O:

mapuc
05-03-14, 01:43 PM
Why do these companies actions make you angry at all?
These are perfectly normal everyday business decisions, why on earth do you feel angry about them?

I am not so much angry, more disappointed with this more and more prostrations facing another religion.

Let me take an example from Denmark. More and more schools have eliminated the traditional Christmas Closed. The reason should be "Show respect for other religions and worship of these"

But why did these schools and other Institutes not show the same respekt, against the Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostals and other religious associations. Nor have they shown any respect against Sikhs, Hindus, etc. But when it comes to Islam, then it should be shown respect over the heads of the ordinary Englishman, Dane, German.

Did Subway show any respect against those religions who was prohibited to eat meat due to their religions?

That's what makes me disappointed

Are on the other hand mad at the politicians who are trying to earn extra points by being populist and says the things that many people want to hear.

Markus

Tribesman
05-03-14, 06:31 PM
I am not so much angry, more disappointed with this more and more prostrations facing another religion.

Let me take an example from Denmark. More and more schools have eliminated the traditional Christmas Closed. The reason should be "Show respect for other religions and worship of these"

But why did these schools and other Institutes not show the same respekt, against the Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostals and other religious associations. Nor have they shown any respect against Sikhs, Hindus, etc. But when it comes to Islam, then it should be shown respect over the heads of the ordinary Englishman, Dane, German.

Did Subway show any respect against those religions who was prohibited to eat meat due to their religions?

That's what makes me disappointed
Sorry, but that makes no sense.
You can go back decades and find thousands of examples of schools and institutions doing exactly what you say they didn't do.
You can go back decades or even centuries and find individuals getting angry over it, the media blowing a non story into a "big issue" and politicians pandering to the populist outrage the non story generates.

One thing is for sure here in America. With all the pork barrel shenanigans in congress, there will never be a Muslim senator or congress critter
You had better tell Keith Ellison and Andre Carson they are the wrong religion then