Some humanoid distortions should be banned for life from driving

[Skybird]

http://www.standard.net.au/story/2219242/i-just-dont-care-texting-p-plate-driver-hits-cyclist/



A P-PLATE driver who used her mobile phone behind the wheel 44 times before running down a cyclist near Koroit has been fined $4500 and lost her licence for nine months.

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The cyclist suffered a spinal fracture which required surgery and placement in a spinal cage at Melbourne’s Austin Hospital. He was originally told he could be left a paraplegic and spent three months recovering.


He also suffered a broken big toe and lacerations to his head and body.


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Even more stunning was Davis’ answers when interviewed by police two days after the accident and asked about using her phone.
“I just don’t care because I’ve already been through a lot of bull**** and my car is like pretty expensive and now I have to fix it,” she told a police officer.


“I’m kind of pissed off that the cyclist has hit the side of my car. I don’t agree that people texting and driving could hit a cyclist. I wasn’t on my phone when I hit the cyclist.”4500 dollars. Unbelievable. And not even a life-long - at least ten years-long - ban from car driving although by character she obviously is totally unsuited to drive.

My girlfriend was killed by a freak like her. The sister of my mother, pregnant, and her husband, got killed by a freak like her, the whole family wiped out. Both freaks got away with cheap penalties - and causing more havoc with seriously injured people short time later - thanks to active assistance by the judges who almost provoked it and rated the interests of the killers as socially more relevant than justice done for the victims and those they left behind. On both cases, there were no prison penalties served, and the the financial penalty did not reach 10,000 D-Marks. The driving licenses, like in this case now, were given back after 9 months, and after 12 months.

:dead:

A human life is not much worth to modern law.

[Cybermat47]

Absolutely disgusting. She isn't even remorseful. I say take her money and give it to him. He'll need it. She won't.



I'm so sorry about what happened to your relatives, Skybird. You have my condolences. We may have had our differences and fights in the past, but I agree with you 100% here. She should be banned from driving for life, and hopefully she'll get the maximum sentence in prison she can get.

[Nippelspanner]

Well, long story short, I hope she hits a tree next time - way too fast - hurting no one else.
The world will be a slightly safer and better place then.

I have no words for human scum like her. How can one be so... like that?

[Skybird]

Absolutely disgusting. She isn't even remorseful. I say take her money and give it to him. He'll need it. She won't.



I'm so sorry about what happened to your relatives, Skybird. You have my condolences. We may have had our differences in the past, but I agree with you 100% here. She should be banned from driving for life.

Ah, its very long time ago, don't worry. Just when I hear stories like this, or see freaks on wheels, or alcohol in cars, I tick out. Alcohol is no mitigating excuse to ease a penalty, but people are fully responsible for what they drink, and whether they give away their car keys before they start to drink. It is fully their responsibility, and if they cause damage while being drunk, the circumstance that they are drunk to me is not mitigating, but a worsening variable - because it would have been so easy for them to avoid the mess they did. I also do not accept how easily sentences get suspended nowadays, or get eased due to "positive social perspectives" or "interests harmned for the offender".

We let the offenders defining the rules too often, and see them at the focus of our attention too often. Too much social engineering in all that. We make better humans, so to speak. The bill gets payed by the police officers on the streets, and the civilian victims of the profiteers of these heroic sociological experiments.

Sending SMS while driving, is not different to drinking alcohol before driving, the loss in concentration is immense, experiment shave shown that when you telephone while driving, the concentration focussed on the traffic around you and the street before you drops by 40-80%, and you reaction time increases tremendously. Some people do incredibly stupid things while driving. I then wish usually they get themselves killed alone and soon, and before they have a chance to take others down with them. Or that they have their driving license confiscated for many years, until age maybe has given them the gift of wisdom. You do not want to give just anybody a firearm. But a car is okay...?

[TarJak]

I'm currently sitting on a train listening to two twunts boasting to one another about their crap driving records whilst I'm reading this thread.

One of the claims to be 29 and driving since 16 but still in his provisional license because of his drink and drug driving offences. Good thing he's on a train I guess

[Jimbuna]

A lifetime ban would be more appropriate.

[Skybird]

A lifetime ban would be more appropriate.
If her victim stays paralysed, certainly yes.

And if she does not stop talking such egocentric, brutal stupid BS, then also certainly yes.

[Cybermat47]

If her victim stays paralysed, certainly yes.

And if she does not stop talking such egocentric, brutal stupid BS, then also certainly yes.

It's not the accident that pisses me off, it's her attitude. If I'd been the one behind the wheel, I'd be doing everything I possibly could to make up for it.

I don't like it when some people here use the term 'oxygen thief', but I really wouldn't mind it if they said it about this bitch.

Sorry, that's offensive to female dogs.

I just can't get my head around how egotistical she is! I mean, wow. Wow. I just don't have the words for it. I just feel like going up to her and screaming as much abuse in her face as I can.


You know, after me stressing out due to a combination of the arguing in the 'man shoots car thief' thread and puberty, it's actually quite therapeutic to hurl abuse at this terrible person. I mean, I might strongly disagree with privateer, Wolferz, Neal and CaptainHaplo, and disagree about some smaller things with TarJak in that thread, but they're entitled to their opinions. They've all had different experiences to me. So as angry I might get at them (and getting angry at them is extremely stupid, anyway), I have no right to lash out at them, and they don't deserve it.

But now I can hurl all that anger at someone who actually DESERVES it. This woman crippled a human being and doesn't care for his wellbeing. She's annoyed at the most. She's dodging responsibility. I think we can all agree that she's scum.

[Jimbuna]

Oxygen thief.

[fireftr18]

Seen the result of so much stupid stuff people have done while driving I don't know where to begin. I agree with previous posts. It seems motor vehicle collisions caused by texting is on the rise.

[Sailor Steve]

I notice that in the midst of her egocentric comments she claims that he hit her.

I did like the one comment from a poster there: She should lose her license for exactly as long as it takes him to fully recover.

[TarJak]

Let the punishment fit the crime.

[d@rk51d3]

A lifetime ban would be more appropriate.

A ban isn't worth a pinch of ****. The morons just jump into the car and drive, regardless.

[vanjast]

I'm sorry to say this but ..the other side of things you don't want to hear ..

When you step out your front door, you're at risk.
Now weigh up the on-the-road risks..

1) in an armoured car = low %
2) in a car = med %
3) pedestrian = med-high%
4) cyclist = 100%

Quite simply put anything other than a 4+ wheeled vehicle on the road is going to get 'damaged' at some stage.

The world may implement futile laws.. but it will not make much difference if people cannot think for themselves - people are for the most part really ... really stupid.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I agree with Steve, but on top of that person getting their license revoked until the injured man heals (if indeed he heals) she should have to pay the victims medical bills and have her car impounded... and then ban her license.

[Cybermat47]

I agree with Steve, but on top of that person getting their license revoked until the injured man heals (if indeed he heals) she should have to pay the victims medical bills and have her car impounded... and then ban her license.

I agree also.

[Skybird]

I disagree, becasue I think some people do not think it to the end.

There must be a penalty, and a compensation. Both are not just one and the same. Also, in this case, there must be technical prevention against the offender doing future damage again, which must be feared to be likely due to her shown incompetence as well as her brutal egocentrism, and lack of empathy. The psychological prevention is hoped for by giving a penalty: the experience of the penalty should motivate the subject to change its behaviour and not do again what it got punished for.

So: compensation means she has to come up for the costs of her victims' medial treatment and rehabilitation, losses in earnings it suffers in the time being ill, and if the victims stays paralysed, she also has to compensate for the lost chances in life this would mean, as well as the living costs of the victim.

Punishment means that the victim can demand a kind of retaliatory measurement that is equal to or below the intensity of what the victim suffered from her. The punishment should not exceed the severity of the original offence/fellony - then the punishing side would become the offender. To artificially paralyse the driver (if it comes to that outcome for the victim of staying paralysed forever) obviously would not be helpful because then she cannot work to produce the money she needs to compensate her victim. The victim should have the right to demand a smaller penalty, it should even have the right to demand to pardon her, if that is what the victim wants to see, due to considerations of mercy.

Considering the punishment must include to differ between carelessness, incompetence, and intention. To accept to expose others to risks from one's own careless actions, is a form of intention.

To sack her driving license, obviously is neither punishment nor compensation here. It is prevention.