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Onkel Neal
03-26-14, 07:13 AM
This does not surprise me in the least


http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/01/strangelove-for-real.html?intcid=obinsite
And this article only mentions the US and Russia. Think about the next 10 year's as India, Pakistan, Iran, who knows becomes ICBM capable.

Skybird
03-26-14, 07:47 AM
You sure you included the correct link? Those 13 most blogged essays of the year have little to say on ICBMs, USA and Russia...

Or I miss the point.

Onkel Neal
03-26-14, 11:51 AM
Thanks, link fixed

Dread Knot
03-26-14, 12:13 PM
Although the Air Force now denies (http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/01/20/exclusive_air_force_insists_it_never_used_painfull y_simple_nuke_code) this claim, according to more than one source I contacted, the code necessary to launch a missile was set to be the same at every Minuteman site: 00000000
http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2010/09/skroob.jpg

President Skroob was running the country. :88)

AVGWarhawk
03-26-14, 12:24 PM
http://www.tophostgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/war-games-do-you-want-to-play-a-gameperfect-play--man-vs-machine-in-games-bpoiktf3.jpg

Jimbuna
03-26-14, 12:25 PM
I wouldn't totally discount NK and Saudi Arabia either.

Wolferz
03-26-14, 12:36 PM
... is the path of the psychopaths.

Destroying the whole planet in an effort to insure mutual destruction is insane in the membrain.:doh:

Platapus
03-26-14, 01:19 PM
"the code necessary to launch a missile was set to be the same at every Minuteman site: 00000000. "

Crikey, not this again. I guess this establishes the credibility of the article. :nope:

Oberon
03-26-14, 01:28 PM
"the code necessary to launch a missile was set to be the same at every Minuteman site: 00000000. "

Crikey, not this again. I guess this establishes the credibility of the article. :nope:

At least it wasn't me this time. :smug:

So, yeah guys, we debunked this one already:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=209554

That being said, some of the things in that article are, I believe, true, in terms of the devolution of battlefield nuclear arms control in the early days of the Cold War, that being said, the only time that they were likely to be used would be during a Soviet invasion of Europe, or if you're Dugout Doug, all over China and North Korea.

Onkel Neal
03-26-14, 05:47 PM
Well, is there any credible sources to back that up? I'm not saying it's not true, but I haven't seen anything to doubt it.

Skybird
03-26-14, 06:03 PM
The only way to experience nuclear war in a passable circumstance, is to live in or very close to a major primary target.

Some things you better do not want to survive.

Onkel Neal
03-27-14, 07:06 AM
Are you kidding? It's my dream to live in a post-nuclear apocalyptic world, where the the rules do not exist, except one: survive. Where men will throw Darwinism into high gear in a landscape of burnt out cities and throngs of rag-tag refugees. Where a single mention of gun control, civil rights, or women's lib would start a mad riot of violence, and orgies would become the new Netflix. No more computers, no more job, no more IRS or Uncle Sam. Just bare existence without any excuses.

Well, come on, doesn't everyone have a dream? :shifty:

Armistead
03-27-14, 07:54 AM
I'm keeping a list of people I'll get if we all survive, knowing I could be on a few myself...

Tribesman
03-27-14, 07:58 AM
Are you kidding? It's my dream to live in a post-nuclear apocalyptic world, where the the rules do not exist, except one: survive. Where men will throw Darwinism into high gear in a landscape of burnt out cities and throngs of rag-tag refugees. Where a single mention of gun control, civil rights, or women's lib would start a mad riot of violence, and orgies would become the new Netflix. No more computers, no more job, no more IRS or Uncle Sam. Just bare existence without any excuses.

Well, come on, doesn't everyone have a dream? :shifty:
I suppose you could not bother waiting for the nuclear holocaust and just move to Somalia.

Wolferz
03-27-14, 09:49 AM
Pffft! :roll:

More like pure anarchy and chaos. Wouldn't you say?
Radiation contamination and nuclear winter will not last just a few months. Therefore, mutual destruction doesn't mean just one side or the other. It means Everybody.
It's the age old greedy line of thinking...
"If I or we can't have it nobody can."

I still laugh when I think about those stupid nuclear attack drills we had in school back in the 60's. They should have been more honest with us. Instead of "duck and cover" it should have been " put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye."

<insert link to British nuclear attack documentary here>

Nobody gets out alive bby.

Skybird
03-27-14, 10:24 AM
Anyone remembering Nevil Shute's novel "On the beach"? We had it in English class at school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29


The New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times) called it "the most haunting evocation we have of a world dying of radiation after an atomic war."[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29#cite_note-Official_Site-7) San Francisco Chronicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Chronicle) reviewer called it "the most shocking fiction I have read in years. What is shocking about it is both the idea and the sheer imaginative brilliance with which Mr. Shute brings it off."[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29#cite_note-Official_Site-7) Daily Telegraph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Telegraph) calls it "Shute's most considerable achievement" and The Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times) states that it is "the most evocative novel on the aftermath of a nuclear war."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29#cite_note-amazon.co.uk-8) The Guardian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian) comments that "fictions such as On the Beach played an important role in raising awareness about the threat of nuclear war. We stared into the abyss and then stepped back from the brink."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%28novel%29#cite_note-amazon.co.uk-8) Los Angeles Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times) describes the novel as "timely and ironic...an indelibly sad ending that leaves you tearful and disturbed" and The Economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist) calls it "still incredibly moving after nearly half a century."

Garion
03-27-14, 10:33 AM
Are you kidding? It's my dream to live in a post-nuclear apocalyptic world, where the the rules do not exist, except one: survive. Where men will throw Darwinism into high gear in a landscape of burnt out cities and throngs of rag-tag refugees. Where a single mention of gun control, civil rights, or women's lib would start a mad riot of violence, and orgies would become the new Netflix. No more computers, no more job, no more IRS or Uncle Sam. Just bare existence without any excuses.

Well, come on, doesn't everyone have a dream? :shifty:

Me too. I want to drive fast, armed to the teeth with a faithful hound by my side, change my name to Max and go meet Tina Turner... Man that's the life for me. :arrgh!:

It's either that or do a Keven Kostner when the world floods :arrgh!:

It Would be interesting

Sign me up Onkel Neal:rock:

Edit: I did a bad thing and spelt Onkle Neal Wrong....... :arrgh!:
Cheers
Gary.. erm sorry Max.... or Kevin.:woot:

Sailor Steve
03-27-14, 12:05 PM
Sign me up Onkel Neil:rock:
I'm sure he will...once you get his name right. :O:

Garion
03-27-14, 04:12 PM
OOPS I blame the meds ....:D

Cheers

Gary

Onkel Neal
03-27-14, 07:23 PM
I suppose you could not bother waiting for the nuclear holocaust and just move to Somalia.

I could, but I think I would stand out more there. Good idea, though :shucks:

Me too. I want to drive fast, armed to the teeth with a faithful hound by my side, change my name to Max and go meet Tina Turner... Man that's the life for me. :arrgh!:

It's either that or do a Keven Kostner when the world floods :arrgh!:

It Would be interesting

Sign me up Onkel Neal:rock:

Edit: I did a bad thing and spelt Onkle Neal Wrong....... :arrgh!:
Cheers
Gary.. erm sorry Max.... or Kevin.:woot:

A dream is always better when it's shared :rock:

Betonov
03-28-14, 02:22 AM
Well, if the world goes back to the dark ages, someone will need a siege engineer. :arrgh!:

Garion
03-28-14, 09:37 AM
Well, if the world goes back to the dark ages, someone will need a siege engineer. :arrgh!:

Yer hired, start tomorrow and bring a packed lunch :D

Cheers

Gary

Wolferz
03-28-14, 09:44 AM
Two men enter. One man leaves.

Embargo ON!

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/master-blaster.jpg

Betonov
03-28-14, 09:44 AM
Ready

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/247/f/0/medieval_fortress__engineer_by_nintendo_nut1-d5dkwg9.png

Mr Quatro
03-28-14, 12:47 PM
Overheard in a backroom of one Iranian admiral while talking to a visiting unnamed DPRK dignitary,

"The closer we can get to the American coast line with one of our submarines without being detected ... means a shorter range for our nuclear tipped missiles"

Silly people don't even know what a white room is :arrgh!:

Wolferz
03-29-14, 08:43 AM
Overheard in a backroom of one Iranian admiral while talking to a visiting unnamed DPRK dignitary,

"The closer we can get to the American coast line with one of our submarines without being detected ... means a shorter range for our nuclear tipped missiles"

Silly people don't even know what a white room is :arrgh!:

They're also unfamiliar with the Virginia class attack sub.:yep:

Onkel Neal
03-29-14, 08:52 AM
They will get to know them soon :har:

Jimbuna
03-29-14, 11:24 AM
They will get to know them soon :har:

LOL :)