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Wolferz
03-21-14, 02:12 PM
...are still at it. Building another mock up...
http://news.msn.com/world/iran-is-building-a-fake-us-aircraft-carrier
Why do they even waste their time?:haha:
Dread Knot
03-21-14, 02:19 PM
There are Voodoo Dolls. Maybe it's a Voodoo Nimitz. :D
Platapus
03-21-14, 02:53 PM
For the same reason we build mock-ups in our deserts probably.
Same reason there's a scale model of a landscape in the middle of China.
http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/19/huangyangtan_wide.jpg
They even shrunk their army down to exercise on it:
http://image.ec21.com/image/jjmodel/oimg_GC01191790_CA01191793/Military_Model_Production.jpg
Ok, so maybe they didn't, but the landscape is real, you can see it on Google Earth.
Chances are that the carrier will be the target of a new weapon that Iran has in development, probably a missile of some sort. Heck, maybe they'll nuke it with the nuclear bomb that everyone has said that they've been on the verge of getting for the past ten years. :03:
Jimbuna
03-21-14, 03:34 PM
Always expect the unexpected from Iran :doh:
Skybird
03-21-14, 03:48 PM
It'S a trojan carrier. They place it at the entrance to New York harbour, waiting for the Americans to tow it in. Then they will wait for nightfall and next open the city gates.
The city gates.
Well, where were the city gates... must be - over there, I think.
:ping:
Jimbuna
03-21-14, 03:52 PM
Well, it ain't that often you crack a funny but that one was good :)
Wolferz
03-21-14, 03:57 PM
It'S a trojan carrier. They place it at the entrance to New York harbour, waiting for the Americans to tow it in. Then they will wait for nightfall and next open the city gates.
The city gates.
Well, where were the city gates... must be - over there, I think.
:ping:
The only gates we have are "The gateway to the west" in St Louis and the "Golden Gate" in San Francisco. Both of which will get you mugged if you pass through them.:huh:
The faux Nimitz is most likely a prop for more propaganda BS.
They're practicing landing a 777 on it . It all fits neatly into place.
Sailor Steve
03-21-14, 04:45 PM
The faux Nimitz is most likely a prop for more propaganda BS.
Or they're making a movie about bold Persian defense against the evil American attack on Tehran.
Madox58
03-21-14, 05:03 PM
They're practicing landing a 777 on it . It all fits neatly into place.
Get it right! The 777 is to take off from this!
Seems they may have heard of an event like this from WWII?
:hmmm:
Cybermat47
03-21-14, 05:15 PM
It'S a trojan carrier. They place it at the entrance to New York harbour, waiting for the Americans to tow it in. Then they will wait for nightfall and next open the city gates.
The city gates.
Well, where were the city gates... must be - over there, I think.
:ping:
No, you're thinking of the wrong Ancient Greek war. The Iranians will try to get the mock-up through a narrow pass, but most of it will be destroyed by 300 US Marines.
It'S a trojan carrier. They place it at the entrance to New York harbour, waiting for the Americans to tow it in. Then they will wait for nightfall and next open the city gates.
The city gates.
Well, where were the city gates... must be - over there, I think.
:ping:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2840248832/h2DEF68A5/
nikimcbee
03-21-14, 09:05 PM
http://0.tqn.com/d/cats/1/0/o/u/2/TC640x531.jpg
oh wait...
nikimcbee
03-21-14, 09:08 PM
...are still at it. Building another mock up...
http://news.msn.com/world/iran-is-building-a-fake-us-aircraft-carrier
Why do they even waste their time?:haha:
Somebody got a 1:1 scale model for their B-day.:woot:
I'd convert it to RC.:/\\k:
Aktungbby
03-21-14, 09:42 PM
Perhaps its to practice what we already showed them how to do!:/\\!!
This is not the first time that the American high command has fudged the results of a war gaming exercise because the real results would be very embarrassing to all U.S. leadership, from the White House down to the Pentagon. In the early years of the Clinton Administration, America's top guns -- her elite fighter pilots -- engaged in an war gaming exercise with Israeli pilots. The American aces were humiliated, so much so that the Pentagon discreetly asked the Israeli government not to publicize the results! The story I read was very small and buried deeply in our local paper.
Now, let us return to this news story. The American officer leading the "enemy" -- the "Force Red" team -- was "the straight-talking Marine commander who had been brought out of retirement to lead Force Red. His name was Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_K._Van_Riper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_K._Van_Riper) and he had played the role of the crazed but cunning leader of the hypothetical rogue state ... In the first days of the 'war', Van Riper's Force Red sent most of the US fleet to the bottom of the Persian Gulf." (Ibid.)
The tactics adopted by this Marine Corps general were astounding and they produced "The Worst US Naval Disaster Since Pearl Harbor".
"The war game was described as 'free play', meaning that both sides were unconstrained, free to pursue any tactic in the book of war in the service of victory ... Much of the action was computer-generated. But representative military units in the field also acted out the various moves and countermoves. The comparison to a chess match is not inaccurate. The vastly superior US armada consisted of the standard carrier battle group with its full supporting cast of ships and planes. Van Riper had at his disposal a much weaker flotilla of smaller vessels, many of them civilian craft, and numerous assets typical of a Third World country." (Ibid.)
"But Van Riper made the most of weakness. Instead of trying to compete directly with Force Blue, he utilized ingenious low-tech alternatives. Crucially, he prevented the stronger US force from eavesdropping on his communications by foregoing the use of radio transmissions. Van Riper relied on couriers instead to stay in touch with his field officers ... At every turn, the wily Van Riper did the unexpected. And in the process he managed to achieve an asymmetric advantage ... Astutely and very covertly, Van Riper armed his civilian marine craft and deployed them near the US fleet, which never expected an attack from small pleasure boats ... Force Red's prop-driven aircraft suddenly were swarming around the US warships, making Kamikaze dives. Some of the pleasure boats made suicide attacks. Others fired Silkworm cruise missiles from close range, and sunk a carrier, the largest ship in the US fleet, along with two helicopter-carriers loaded with marines ... the Navy was unprepared. When it was over, most of the US fleet had been destroyed. Sixteen US warships lay on the bottom, and the rest were in disarray. Thousands of American sailors were dead, dying, or wounded.
"If the games had been real, it would have been the worst US naval defeat since Pearl Harbor." (Ibid.)
Clearly, this war games disaster was something the Pentagon could not have foreseen. Publicly, Pentagon spokesmen admitted of no disaster, since, in war gaming, destroyed equipment and dead sailors can be "resurrected" at the touch of a keyboard. At the end, the government of the rogue state was overthrown and victory achieved -- but only after General Van Riper quit in disgust. Oh, yes, and the Pentagon did not admit that they had anything to learn and insisted there was nothing they needed to change.
But, you may argue, surely they knew better internally and were working madly to change tactics so they would not have this kind of real disaster, from a real enemy, who can really kill our sailors and marines. You may be right, except for the fact that most of the reasons for this disaster are systemic and cannot be easily or quickly corrected. How can this be?
The first problem is that the Navy has heavily invested in equipment which does not work effectively in close-in places like the Persian Gulf. In other words, our Navy was created, and equipped, to fight a blue-water enemy out in the open ocean, and is very vulnerable to a determined close-in enemy using unconventional tactics. Listen as this article explains this terrible reality. Essentially in warfare, there is always a 'cheap' solution to an expensive problem: English long bows vs armored knights, or Stinger shoulder rockets against Soviet Hind helicopters... by-by Afghanistan. This carrier mock up is a practice dummy for what we've shown can be done. Yamamoto copied the British attack on Taranto at Pearl Harbor and now the whacky Iranians are following suit ...to whack US similarily! http://www.rense.com/general64/fore.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/fore.htm) LT GEN Van RIPER http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/67/PKVanRiper_USMC.jpg/200px-PKVanRiper_USMC.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PKVanRiper_USMC.jpg)
My first thought-what is their purpose, to do this? what are they trying to achieve?
Markus
Aktungbby
03-21-14, 11:56 PM
My first thought-what is their purpose, to do this? what are they trying to achieve?
Markus
72 virgins apiece!:dead: just like the USS Cole attack! It can be done; it has been done; We should be wide awake by now:o...Never assume your Islamic jihadi thinks as you do or even rationally...especially if paradise awaits: the ultimate 'opiate of the masses' to misquote Marx. Sort of kamkaze divine wind concept kicked up to Allah's standard but nothing the Valhalla bound small-craft amphibian berserkyr Danes, Swedes and Norwegians didn't think up in their time! They adapted their belief standards to their superior technology of the day and kicked ass too!http://www.clker.com/cliparts/0/b/4/c/1197091636450465427johnny_automatic_Viking_ship.sv g.med.png (http://javascript<b></b>:edit(13466)) nuthin' new here at all! Skôl BBY :Kaleun_Cheers:
NeonSamurai
03-22-14, 09:33 AM
I would have thought it is obvious. This is obviously their brand new aircraft carrier for their fleet of F-313 stealth fighter jets. Both are designed to about the same scale and everything!
Beware you infidels!
krashkart
03-22-14, 10:09 AM
It's another attempt to get us all wondering "WTF?". :)
Wolferz
03-22-14, 10:59 AM
It's another attempt to get us all wondering "WTF?". :)
I've been wondering that about a great many things in the world today.:haha:
Cybermat47
03-22-14, 04:50 PM
They probably want revenge against Macedon. If I'd been the biggest empire around until some Macedonian bastard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great) came and invaded, I'd want revenge too. The aircraft carrier is probably just to throw the Macedonians off balance, just like the Indians did with their Elephants back in something-something-something B.C.
Jimbuna
03-22-14, 05:03 PM
I've been wondering that about a great many things in the world today.:haha:
I concur :doh:
Mittelwaechter
03-24-14, 09:23 PM
You guys may want to ask Nader Talebzadeh for his next movie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nader_Talebzadeh
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