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gord96
03-07-14, 11:58 PM
Hi guys.

Used to play a ton of Silent Hunter 3 with GWX back in the day. Haven't touched a subsim in five years or so but got the urge to play one again. SHV looks meh so I thought I would try SHIV. Curious if there is a mod like GWX for it that you would suggest. I see as I browse the forums a TMO and OM, but not sure if they are a good place to start. I think the Pacific campaign would be where I would like to start.

Also if I just want to play the pacific campaign do I need to get gold or can I just buy Wolves of the Pacific and enjoy mods?

Thanks for any info. :arrgh!:

Den0
03-08-14, 12:09 AM
Welcome Mr. Gord! SH4 is a fun sim good choice! I am not the official welcoming guy but this will get you started. There are some super cool guys on here that will get to your thread when they see it but this will get you started.

Assuming your at 1.5 with uboats

RSRD run silent run deep
Improved stock enviroment v3
Maxoptics imo its good mod

Now if you want to run uboats
add Operation Monson to that list with the patch and upgrade

If you want hard Pacific
TMO its upgrade and patch

Have not tried RFB real fleet battle so don't know.

I am no vet here but those are some good ones.

Go here for some good info http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155786

gord96
03-08-14, 01:00 AM
Thanks Den. Appreciate the reply. Maybe i will try RSRD and the Improved Enviroment mods to start. What's Maxoptics? Couldn't find anything on it.

Thanks again!

Den0
03-08-14, 03:43 AM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1613

Gives you more zoom on your peri and tbt and binos very handy IMO.

Yeah play around with 1.5 and RSRD for abit get the feel of the game then move up the more advanced mods they are alot tougher.

:Kaleun_Wink:

THEBERBSTER
03-08-14, 11:18 AM
Here is my mod list

Game Fixes Only Mod v1.1

New Orders Bar Menu

#1 Real Environment mod install

GFO Patch for Real Env

Webster's No Crew Fatigue

Webster's Improved US Torpedo v2

Magnified Hud Dials for v1.5_Large

Bigger Better Protractors

Extra Allied naval bases for Stock SH4 + UBM v3.0

Webster's Ship Manuvering Fix

3000 Yard Bearing Tool (1920x)

SCAF for SH 1.5

MaxOptics3 for SCAF 1.5

Webster's New sonar view for v1.5

Eye Patch for Stock

shSpeech

SilentPrey
03-08-14, 01:24 PM
Most of the mods are built for version 1.5. That's the U-Boat expansion. So, you do need the U-Boat expansion even if you're only going to run the American campaign.

I run TMO, RSRDC, OTC(Optical Targeting Correction), and Traveller's Mod.

Admiral Halsey
03-08-14, 03:13 PM
So you're a SH3 GWX Veteran? Then download the Trigger Maru mod. If you want accurate battles and convoys you should download the Run Silent Run Deep Campaign mod that goes with it.

THEBERBSTER
03-08-14, 05:27 PM
I have taken this mod out " Real Environment mod" it really messes with the weather.

High seas and fog all the way up to the Luzon Straits and beyond.

The weather has not changed since I started the game.

It does not look good either.

I had to take 3 merchants out close in with the deck gun in fog at minimum elevation.

All 3 were originally set up for a torpedo attack.

I could see them all but the periscope would not lock on with the sea swirling over the top.

Now what a difference with this mod out, much more natural looking weather that you would expect to see.

Den0
03-08-14, 05:39 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3590 may like it better...


:subsim:

gord96
03-09-14, 11:55 AM
Thanks guys. Good info! I decided to go with RSRD and the Improved Enviroments mod for now as I haven't played a sub sim in quite a few years.

Quick question though. I took some hits from a destroyer and crash dived. Was able to survive and repair my boat at 180ft while the destroyers depth charged me. Everything was repaired and was able to surface a while later but my diesels won't work, even though they don't come up as destroyed or even damaged anymore. Would anything else effect my propulsion? I noticed that my hydraulic pump and main pump is red, but not showing damaged. I can't remember if the little pictures were always red or if it means destroyed.

And that said, if i can't get the diesels going, is there a way out of the patrol or is that the end? i am a ways from a friendly port.

Thanks!!:)

Den0
03-09-14, 12:23 PM
Will run enough to charge your batteries crawl to port that way. come up charge go back down and repeat. I have had to do that when running on fumes to refuel. But if they want run at all and you are actively telling your damage control team to fix them then yeah you may need to reload to last save.... Its happened to all of us.

I know its not REAL but I try and save after or before each patrol spot incase I do something stupid like take on a merchant with deckguns and forgot to look and see if he had some himself.

THEBERBSTER
03-09-14, 01:10 PM
Thanks Den0, the mod needs to be compatible with "Websters GFO" :up:

TorpX
03-09-14, 11:52 PM
for new players
RFB_2.0 .................................... (Real Fleet Boat)
RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010
RSRDC_RFB_V575 .................... (Run Silent Run Deep Campaign)
RSRDC_RFBV5xx_Patch1



This provides many improvements with only four mods. RFB (Real Fleet Boat) aims to achieve the most realistic gameplay and changes many elements. RSRDC (Run Silent Run Deep Campaign) changes shipping traffic and missions to historical volume/pattern. Stock has excessive traffic and isn't well configured.

Also, when you install and enable these mods (using JSGME), you should start a new career, and avoid experimenting with a lot of mods within this career. Playing 3 card Monty with mods will likely make for problems.

As said before, you need SH4 v1.5 (with U-boat missions) to use these, or most other mods. Ideally, I would get the 'Gold Edition'. It has all the patches and the game one one disc.

bandit484
03-10-14, 10:48 AM
Most of the mods are built for version 1.5. That's the U-Boat expansion. So, you do need the U-Boat expansion even if you're only going to run the American campaign.

I run TMO, RSRDC, OTC(Optical Targeting Correction), and Traveller's Mod.

Yes I must agree these mods are GREAT for Pacific Operations.:salute:

skip
03-12-14, 01:53 PM
for new players
RFB_2.0 .................................... (Real Fleet Boat)
RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010
RSRDC_RFB_V575 .................... (Run Silent Run Deep Campaign)
RSRDC_RFBV5xx_Patch1



This provides many improvements with only four mods. RFB (Real Fleet Boat) aims to achieve the most realistic gameplay and changes many elements. RSRDC (Run Silent Run Deep Campaign) changes shipping traffic and missions to historical volume/pattern. Stock has excessive traffic and isn't well configured.

Also, when you install and enable these mods (using JSGME), you should start a new career, and avoid experimenting with a lot of mods within this career. Playing 3 card Monty with mods will likely make for problems.

As said before, you need SH4 v1.5 (with U-boat missions) to use these, or most other mods. Ideally, I would get the 'Gold Edition'. It has all the patches and the game one one disc.




Can the OTC mod and any graphic mod be used with this list and if so what order would I install them all in

Webster
03-12-14, 08:43 PM
Thanks guys. Good info! I decided to go with RSRD and the Improved Enviroments mod for now as I haven't played a sub sim in quite a few years.

Quick question though. I took some hits from a destroyer and crash dived. Was able to survive and repair my boat at 180ft while the destroyers depth charged me. Everything was repaired and was able to surface a while later but my diesels won't work, even though they don't come up as destroyed or even damaged anymore. Would anything else effect my propulsion? I noticed that my hydraulic pump and main pump is red, but not showing damaged. I can't remember if the little pictures were always red or if it means destroyed.

And that said, if i can't get the diesels going, is there a way out of the patrol or is that the end? i am a ways from a friendly port.

Thanks!!:)

if you left your crew at battle stations too long they don't change shifts so when they get tired enough they go to sleep on you and stop responding to orders so that could be why the engines aren't moving, the crew is asleep.

gord96
03-14-14, 10:52 AM
Thanks Webster. I thought of that and switched some crews around but no luck. Either way I am just going to start over. I forgot to install the RSRD patch and I may remove that real environment mod as it seems like 90% of the time it's foggy with it on.

gord96
03-14-14, 02:11 PM
Another question. How is Operation Monsoon? I find I miss the Uboats after so much time in SH3. Does one use RSRD with Operation Monsoon as well or is that just for Pacific campaigns?

Webster
03-14-14, 05:29 PM
Another question. How is Operation Monsoon? I find I miss the Uboats after so much time in SH3. Does one use RSRD with Operation Monsoon as well or is that just for Pacific campaigns?

all mods are for the pacific campaigns unless they say they are for OM

OM is a complete rewrite of the campaign files so run it as a separate game install and don't try to use any other mods with it unless they are designed for the german side and sayu they are OM safe.

OM will be hard on your system so if its marginal then you ewill have A good bit of CTD to learn how to avoid.

there is a seperate forum for the german side you should read http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=234 to find out more

Sniper297
03-15-14, 12:42 AM
If you're still at battle stations switching the crew around won't help, you have to click the "send crew to battle stations" button again to secure from battle stations. If you go to the crew screen and all three shifts have the dark background you're still at battle stations. If one line is dark and the other two light you're on regular watches and will get going in a few minutes.

Like this;

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1900002_695894377121512_1403793339_n.jpg

Bottom row has a dark background line indicating the duty watch, if all three rows have dark background then you're still at battle stations.

This;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1472

Is a simple mod that should be among the top 10, instead of dim and less dim yellow you get a bright green light to indicate something is on.

If you think it's a "diesels destroyed" glitch try saving, exit, and reload the save, sometimes that will reset it.

TorpX
03-15-14, 03:10 AM
Can the OTC mod and any graphic mod be used with this list and if so what order would I install them all in



I don't think OTC is compatible. CapnScurvy made a version of SCAF, that was for RFB/RSRDC. I forget the details about that.

About graphic mods; you would have to check with the mod readme/author, or use trial and error.

You should install them as listed. Other small mods can be installed after, if they are compatible.