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Catfish
02-26-14, 02:22 PM
" .... But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself. ..."

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

They are not only wavesdropping, and passive at all .. :hmmm:

the_tyrant
02-26-14, 02:46 PM
What the hell is the "integrity of the internet"

The internet is a public place where anyone can participate. GHCQ agents have every right to express their opinions or that of their employers on the internet like everyone else. They have the same right to take on different identities and banter like the rest of us. Hell, maybe some of our friends here on Subsim work for the GHCQ.


PS: Please don't hurt me Mr Bond. God save the queen!

Oberon
02-26-14, 03:09 PM
So 4chan is actually GCHQ? :hmmm:


That makes a disturbing amount of sense...

Tango589
02-26-14, 04:28 PM
Hell, maybe some of our friends here on Subsim work for the GHCQ.

Dammit, my covers blown! *runs out the door*

Catfish
02-26-14, 04:32 PM
...
PS: Please don't hurt me Mr Bond. God save the queen!

:haha:
I saw what you wrote there, you seem to be afraid, better think of Johnny English then :D


OnT:
I think the possibility to destroy anyone's reputation via "social media" (lmao) just because someone criticizes something, is 'mildly disturbing' ?

" ... it is not difficult to see how dangerous it is to have secret government agencies being able to target any individuals they want – who have never been charged with, let alone convicted of, any crimes – with these sorts of online, deception-based tactics of reputation destruction and disruption ..."

I have nothing against such methods, were they only used against the bad guys. Nothing against doing this against e.g. a weapon dealer, but unfortunately those are mostly regarded as the good guys.

However, AFAIK a lot of the NSA workers have already spied on their close friends, lovers etc.; lots of articles about this relatively 'harmless' ahem abuse (as long as you are not the target).


" ... Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. ..."

They also do it to companies. Peaceful hegemony :D


But you are right, the 'free' Internet as we thought it would be, never really existed. Being created by DARPA, what did we think ..

So if there is no control over those agencies possible (even by their own governments), we need something different.

Herr-Berbunch
02-26-14, 04:51 PM
Dammit, my covers blown! *runs out the door*

Hmmmm, Reece was last seen heading towards Pine Gap. :hmmm:

Catfish
02-26-14, 04:58 PM
Hmmmm, Reece was last seen heading towards Pine Gap. :hmmm:


http://www.smh.com.au/national/pine-gap-drives-us-drone-kills-20130720-2qbsa.html


Arrgh now i really SHOULD run for cover .. :huh:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/penaeus/DronePineGap_zpse07b3515.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/penaeus/media/DronePineGap_zpse07b3515.jpg.html)

:O:

Jimbuna
02-26-14, 04:58 PM
Hmmmm, Reece was last seen heading towards Pine Gap. :hmmm:

With STEED hot on his heels.

Skybird
02-26-14, 08:10 PM
It has been said before that the lion's share of missions and projects of intelligence services is not directed at rivalling or hostile faction and targets, but is focussing on the manipulation of own country's population.

the internet and mass media make it hilariously easy to commit character-assassination or to overrule unwanted opinions by mere volume.

That the Brits, like any other PR agency, advertisment company, political lobby worker and so on, do that, is not shocking, the GCHQ just is an obedient servant of a deeply criminal and disgusting organisation called "state". Shocking only is the unbelievable willingness of ordinary people to not care for it even when learning about it, and to let this happen to them.

He who voluntarily wriggles on the ground like a worm, should not complain when being walked over and stepped upon - he asked for it.

Wolferz
02-27-14, 09:29 AM
Cockroaches are everywhere. Even the intertoobz.:timeout:

Let us spray.

Spiced_Rum
02-28-14, 05:29 AM
Cockroaches are everywhere. Even the intertoobz.:timeout:

Let us spray.

And that is why our intelligence agencies need to continue operating within it. To deal with the roaches.:Kaleun_Binocular:

STEED
02-28-14, 11:21 AM
GCHQ agents infiltrating the net to manipulate, deceive, destroy reputation. Paid for by google. :shifty:

Wolferz
03-01-14, 04:33 PM
And that is why our intelligence agencies need to continue operating within it. To deal with the roaches.:Kaleun_Binocular:

Psst. They "are" the roaches. Hiding from the light of day out of sight.

So, I guess we could catch them in a roach motel and scream BOLLOCKS! at their endeavors.:hmmm:

Catfish
03-01-14, 05:48 PM
Psst. They "are" the roaches. Hiding from the light of day out of sight.

And even if you cut off their head, they still lay eggs hours later, in your garbage bin. Very successful.

STEED
03-03-14, 08:23 AM
Bring it on GCHQ..

http://uk.reputation.com/?gclid=CPzKuO-69rwCFafnwgodO78AUQ

Jimbuna
03-03-14, 11:38 AM
Bring it on GCHQ..

http://uk.reputation.com/?gclid=CPzKuO-69rwCFafnwgodO78AUQ

I should imagine they'll be head and shoulders above anyone else in the UK.

Catfish
03-03-14, 11:49 AM
^ of course :)
but only if you believe in official reports, and statistics.
I don't.

and i really like Steed's link.. :haha:

STEED
03-05-14, 05:10 AM
^ of course :)
but only if you believe in official reports, and statistics.
I don't.

and i really like Steed's link.. :haha:

STEED - Good morning my reputation has been slated and I'm not happy about it what can you do?

Reputation.Com - Well STEED we can sort these people out and restore your reputation for you, may I ask who has caused you this harm?

STEED - GCHQ

Reputation.Com - Excuse me did you say GCHQ?

STEED - Yes

Reputation.Com - LINE GOES DEAD...

STEED - Typical

Skybird
03-05-14, 05:38 AM
What'S the problem with reputation killing, character assassination, manipulation of public opinion, filtering information, as long as you have marvellous free and fair elections to get rid of the persons responsible for such policies? :88)