Two! In one place!

[Herr-Berbunch]

Yes folks, the kind people of the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum are planning to send over their airworthy Lancaster to join the BBMF's for a series of events.

The only two airworthy Lancasters in the world (until Just Jane gets up there!), and this one is doing pleasure flights from my local airport (for between £3.5k - £5), see their website for details, Jim. :up:

http://www.warplane.com/Lancaster-2014-UK-Tour.aspx

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/raf-bbmf-to-host-canadian-warplane-heritage-museum-lancaster-during-visit-to-england-24022014

http://www.warplane.com/images/content/2014-UK-Tour.jpg

[Tango589]

Oh to have a spare £5 grand sitting idle.:shifty:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Oh to have a spare £5 grand sitting idle.:shifty:

Only £3.5k if you don't want the cockpit. Prolly cheaper to fly to Canada and fly it there.

[Tchocky]

Right. Humberside it is.


BRB, robbing some banks.

[Jimbuna]

Been discussing this all day on the aviation forum....amazing news :yeah:

[Sailor Steve]

Two Lancs together should be awesome! I've seen a diamond formation of four B-17s, but that was a long time ago.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Two Lancs together should be awesome! I've seen a diamond formation of four B-17s, but that was a long time ago.

Memphis Bell was filmed at nearby RAF Binbrook, lots of B-17s then. :up:

[CCIP]

Yeah, last I checked the Warplane Heritage Museum (which is practically next door to where I live) was offering rides for $2500 here, so... just in case you do have that spare cash :D

[AVGWarhawk]

I have seen this old girl in person. She is a beautiful bird.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010028.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010025.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010031.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010035.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010034.jpg

These are my two daughters standing by the landing gear.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010029.jpg

[Jimbuna]

The wife will eventually decide if I get a ride or not (wash your dirty thoughts from your mind, I was being serious) :huh:

[Herr-Berbunch]

The wife will eventually decide if I get a ride or not (wash your dirty thoughts from your mind, I was being serious) :huh:

Dirty thoughts? It's a ride in a Lanc, there are no dirty thoughts other than the smell of fuel and oil drifting on the breeze. :sunny:

My fingers are crossed for you, and as envious as I potentially will be I hope you get it.

[Jimbuna]

Dirty thoughts? It's a ride in a Lanc, there are no dirty thoughts other than the smell of fuel and oil drifting on the breeze. :sunny:

My fingers are crossed for you, and as envious as I potentially will be I hope you get it.

If a certain friend goes for it (not a member of this forum) then it will be so but I will have to 'sell' it to SWMBO as my birthday present.

[CCIP]

I've been on board her, by the way! (not for a flight, though - but I got there early in the morning for an airshow, and could basically tour her freely) Lovely bird, but VERY cramped inside. It's easy to think of as a big airplane, but inside it it sure doesn't feel like one!

http://i.imgur.com/zXc79jH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NybOnLe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/awEDVEt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jh9jQt0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/k7zXKjl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1t2cnJ3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IyIjDXi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2hhqfw3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zMRppMq.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Some really great photos on this thread :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

George, those were lovely! I am now green with envy. Thanks for posting them. :sunny:

[AVGWarhawk]

George, where you when you were able to see her?

[CCIP]

That was right at her 'home', during an airshow at Hamilton airport which happens to be the site of the Warplane Heritage Museum.
Very nice place and collection, by the way, but the flying Lanc is by far their centerpiece (and rightly so).

They also operate a B-25 and a Canso flying boat, both regularly flying and available for tours (I believe flights on both of those are under $1000)

[AVGWarhawk]

I got to see her in Reading PA. The Memphis Belle was also on hand.

[CCIP]

Very nice! She was there at our airshow as well, along with Chuckie - and they were all flying on display (sadly not together, that would've been quite a sight)

http://i.imgur.com/IRUBzKi.png

http://i.imgur.com/n4pKlNk.png

And the Lanc in the air is a majestic sight...

[http://i.imgur.com/B286Vk5.png

What really took the cake for me was seeing her getting chased by this formation, though:

http://i.imgur.com/TnmPTOP.png

http://i.imgur.com/xYdhSJY.png
Yup, that is a P-40, Mustang, Corsair, Hurri and Spit. Hard not to be in awe seeing all of them in the air at the same time in one place :D

http://i.imgur.com/GrVagTD.png

But the Lancaster really is a great-looking aircraft!

[AVGWarhawk]

Your show was much like mine that I attended. Allowing visitors to board and stand next to the aircraft. Really share them and enjoy it. Not as sterile as standing behind a rope at a museum. Then being very close when the aircraft are operating. Full effect of sight, sound and smell. Feeling the same prop wash as the guys did in WW2. Really quite something these machines.

[Jimbuna]

Crackin shots :sunny:

Permit me to put up a few Brit ones.

http://s18.postimg.org/v3k86uxdl/108.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s27.postimg.org/u50jk8xc3/110.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/k7pir6pq7/full/)

http://s4.postimg.org/z0a3eupdp/111.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/z0a3eupdl/full/)

http://s16.postimg.org/daw8bfwsl/113.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/67ocvtrcx/full/)

http://s27.postimg.org/nda4he8cj/114.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s7.postimg.org/8jx8epysb/IMG_0799.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/50baoww2f/full/)

http://s21.postimg.org/u08f14emv/IMG_0800.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/56yv0gvmb/full/)

http://s23.postimg.org/ky6yeen6j/IMG_0801.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/o51hy17mf/full/)

http://s8.postimg.org/mipkh1v2t/IMG_0808.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/yxcchdmkx/full/)

[AVGWarhawk]

Got to love Sally! :D

[AVGWarhawk]

You guys should like this video. You can hear my daughter say, "He is leaking". We were right there just about on top of this when it was running. Truly a thrill. Never mind the Super Marine Spitfire blowing by!

http://youtu.be/WlNaLkvWTN4

[Sailor Steve]

Nice! I always love watching them run up.

Two :sunny: :sunny: - one for your daughter and one for Sally.

[AVGWarhawk]

Steve, I really enjoyed taking my two daughters to events such as this. Reading the history book is a great way to learn of past history. Touching, smelling and feeling history in the flesh is the way to go if it is available to us.

[Oberon]

Prop wash really is something isn't it? Never really experienced it before until an airshow at the old USAF base at Bentwaters a few years back, felt like I had sun burn for the rest of the day. :haha:

Lovely engine sounds, can't wait to see the videos of the two Lancs in operation too, that'll be something special.

Was a good airshow at Bentwaters, we were meant to get a B-17 but sadly she was stuck abroad due to weather conditions, so we got a Seafire instead, which was very nice...but I think the highlight for me was to see an F-86 Sabre return to Bentwaters for the first time since the fifties. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Oberon, you would have laughed at one show we attended. A young couple was standing next to us with a plate of funnel cake. The funnel cake had powdered sugar on it. Well, you guessed it....a engine was throttled up and prop wash headed our way. The plate with cake the fella was holding lifted and whacked him in the face. He was covered in powdered sugar. It was quite comical. I had to chase my hat from prop wash. Simply amazing the power these engine generate.

[Jimbuna]

Got to love Sally! :D

Whose Sally? :03:

[Tango589]

You guys should like this video. You can hear my daughter say, "He is leaking". We were right there just about on top of this when it was running. Truly a thrill. Never mind the Super Marine Spitfire blowing by!

http://youtu.be/WlNaLkvWTN4


Cool video, you could almost feel the prop wash.

It's a bit breezy LOL

[Herr-Berbunch]

I regret most of my airshow visits in the late '80s - early '90s for being young and only wanting the fast jet stuff. Now I'm older I appreciate the whole gamut and wonder on just what history I was ignoring. :cry:

[Sailor Steve]

Permit me to put up a few Brit ones.
Jim, I suddenly find one of those pictures highly offensive. The real 'Memphis Belle' was a B-17F. That is a B-17G and has a whopping huge chin turret. Somebody ought to be taken to task for misrepresenting a beautiful airplane like that. The 'G' model sported thousands of great paint schemes to choose from. A travesty. :nope:

Not your fault for taking the picture. You likely wouldn't knnow.

[Jimbuna]

Jim, I suddenly find one of those pictures highly offensive. The real 'Memphis Belle' was a B-17F. That is a B-17G and has a whopping huge chin turret. Somebody ought to be taken to task for misrepresenting a beautiful airplane like that. The 'G' model sported thousands of great paint schemes to choose from. A travesty. :nope:

Not your fault for taking the picture. You likely wouldn't knnow.

No I didn't actually but I'm going to make myself look oh so clever the next time the Quality Street Gang go there :smug:

[AVGWarhawk]

What is strange is the nose art has Sally port side and Memphis Belle starboard on the same aircraft. I don't believe they attempted to sell it as historically accurate....unless Sally was on the original Belle. If so I never seen the nose art.

[Jimbuna]

Just Googled the above and apparently she is indeed a B-17G 'Sally B'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_at_IWM_Duxford

She was used in the film Memphis Belle and has been left with some of that livery.

The Sally B was used in the 1990 film Memphis Belle as one of 5 flying B-17s needed for various film scenes, and it was used to replicate the real Memphis Belle in one scene. Half of the aircraft is still in the Memphis Belle livery, following restoration of the Sally B nose art and the black and yellow checkerboard pattern on the cowling of the starboard inner (no 3) engine, carried as a tribute to Elly Sallingboe's companion Ted White, whose Harvard aircraft had the same pattern on its cowling. Sally B was reworked to B-17F configuration for filming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_B

[AVGWarhawk]

Great find Jim. That explains a lot concerning this bird. :up:

[Jimbuna]

Great find Jim. That explains a lot concerning this bird. :up:

Well it was your post which got me in the inquisitive frame of mind :cool:

[AVGWarhawk]

I did not notice until Steve said there is a chin turret. I went back to look at the pictures again. Sure enough, Sally(minus)-the clothing on port side. Memphis Belle on starboard. I guess the pilot was two timing! Personally, I like Sally. :D

[AVGWarhawk]

Your's truly:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend2010036.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/CayseyWW2Weekend2010041.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Me too :03:

[AVGWarhawk]

And my keepsake:


http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/CayseyWW2Weekend2010091.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/CayseyWW2Weekend2010102-1.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Very nice...and mine.

http://s27.postimg.org/mhgj8t1hv/IMG_1037.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/o99i3pkun/full/)

http://s28.postimg.org/4m6i0cr8d/IMG_1044.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/pj2q50p95/full/)

http://s16.postimg.org/t8t3d12hx/IMG_1040.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4fjjcdjhd/full/)

[Sailor Steve]

Beautifully maintained clipped-wing Spit V.

Now if you get that ugly old fart out of the picture...:O:

Seriously? You're looking pretty good these days.

[Jimbuna]

Thank you my friend :sunny:

You have noticed I wasn't smiling :)

[AVGWarhawk]

I'll raise you one Supermarine Spitfire. What a awesome piece of English engineering. The shear power of this aircraft is astonishing.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/OliviaWW22010095.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/OliviaWW22010087.jpg

Seriously, look at the prop...my God....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/WW2Weekend049.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Also on my hit parade of awesome birds....bent wing at that!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/CayseyWW2Weekend2010105.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

I'll raise you one Supermarine Spitfire. What a awesome piece of English engineering. The shear power of this aircraft is astonishing.
Though my memory may be a little faulty, I'm guessing from that five-bladed prop it's a Mk 21. The next (and last) step was the Seafire Mk 47, with a six-bladed (actually twin 3-blade) contra-prop. There are plenty of pictures on the web, but this is a place for ones we took ourselves, and I don't have one. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

I'll raise you one Supermarine Spitfire. What a awesome piece of English engineering. The shear power of this aircraft is astonishing.



Though my memory may be a little faulty, I'm guessing from that five-bladed prop it's a Mk 21. The next (and last) step was the Seafire Mk 47, with a six-bladed (actually twin 3-blade) contra-prop. There are plenty of pictures on the web, but this is a place for ones we took ourselves, and I don't have one. :sunny:

But unless my memory deserts me, none quite as powerful as the Sea Fury (ignore the next generation Hunter).

http://s7.postimg.org/j83nggk8r/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s24.postimg.org/jehqxq0fp/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/3t0fdrohd/full/)

http://s12.postimg.org/v6k01llu5/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/4lhh61jgp/full/)

[AVGWarhawk]

Love the Fury! But for looks.....Spitfire all the way!

The Fury you have pictured is a two seater. Trainer? Mustangs came in two seater for training.

[AVGWarhawk]

Though my memory may be a little faulty, I'm guessing from that five-bladed prop it's a Mk 21. The next (and last) step was the Seafire Mk 47, with a six-bladed (actually twin 3-blade) contra-prop. There are plenty of pictures on the web, but this is a place for ones we took ourselves, and I don't have one. :sunny:

SUPERMARINE
SPITFIRE Mk XVIII

This is the actual bird I have pictured and seen in person. Owned by Jim Beasley.

http://www.maam.org/wwii/images/spitfire1.jpg


http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/OliviaWW22010087.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Seafire FR47. I was not aware of a two counter rotating props on a Seafire.

http://www.pewteraircraft.com/FAA/SEAFIRE%2047/SEAFIRE-47-3.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Love the Fury! But for looks.....Spitfire all the way!

The Fury you have pictured is a two seater. Trainer? Mustangs came in two seater for training.

Rgr that, she's a T20 variant.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roblovesey/7475474272/

[Herr-Berbunch]

Thursday 21st - 1455 Wattisham. :arrgh!:

For me there's North Coates or Kirmington (Humberside) on Sat 6th.

I think the three best days will be tomorrow at Waddington - 2 x Lanc, 1 x Vulcan (plus 607 on the ground) :rock: and 2nd/7th Sept when they both fly over a taxiing Just Jane at East Kirkby. :rock::rock:

[Oberon]

Thursday 21st - 1455 Wattisham. :arrgh!:

For me there's North Coates or Kirmington (Humberside) on Sat 6th.

I think the three best days will be tomorrow at Waddington - 2 x Lanc, 1 x Vulcan (plus 607 on the ground) :rock: and 2nd/7th Sept when they both fly over a taxiing Just Jane at East Kirkby. :rock::rock:

Got a flight path plan? :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Nope, sorry. Wattisham is all you get, but Clacton after. They're being quite cagey about routes other than the flypast locations.

[Jimbuna]

Durham Tees Valley Airport on 28th :smug:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2233501&postcount=8677

[Oberon]

The Avro sisters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXEsMrITsWA

[Jimbuna]

:sunny::sunny::sunny:

[Eichhörnchen]

We visit "Just Jane" most years, just up the road at East Kirkby. It MIGHT just fly one day. I think they need just one new engine. Good luck with that...

[Eichhörnchen]

What beautiful photos. I know a chap who was the tail-gunner in a Lanc (101 Sqn). It was an ABC aircraft, or "air-borne cigar". They carried huge masts above and below and had to loiter over the target area, jamming the enemy radio coms. Because they had to carry a full bomb-load in and then hang about afterwards, it was about the most dangerous job in Bomber Command...

Saw Vera in company with the BBMF Lanc and Vulcan day before yesterday, flying over The Wash, from our drive.

[Herr-Berbunch]

You must have a long drive for them to fly from. :D

[Jimbuna]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=215215

[Eichhörnchen]

You must have a long drive for them to fly from. :D

:har: :haha::rotfl2:

[nikimcbee]

Seafire FR47. I was not aware of a two counter rotating props on a Seafire.

http://www.pewteraircraft.com/FAA/SEAFIRE%2047/SEAFIRE-47-3.jpg



Jim, are you missing a plane from the collection?:D

[Oberon]

Jim, are you missing a plane from the collection?:D

That's a bit old for Jims collection, although I think it would just slot into the Cold War period, but I think the lack of jet turbine on it might go against it. :03:

[Jimbuna]

Jim, are you missing a plane from the collection?:D

LOL :)

That's a bit old for Jims collection, although I think it would just slot into the Cold War period, but I think the lack of jet turbine on it might go against it. :03:

Maybe but then again maybe not.....I've a couple of Gannets and a Harvard in the collection :03:

http://s29.postimg.org/6ledvb41j/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/9fhj8r67n/full/)

http://s1.postimg.org/fgygb544f/IMG_1091.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/3rugn6d5n/full/)

[Herr-Berbunch]

Went shopping today, as I got out the car on returning home VeRA flew past, but about a mile away, still a distinctive shape and sound. Lovely. Another day of giving flights from Humberside.

A short while later I was driving to Brigg, going past the airport she was on the ground again, with the Buchon (G-AWHE) (Spanish copy of a 109) was parked just behind her.

On my return journey both had engines running and the Buchon was waiting for a Jetstream to land and clear the runway before taxiing to the far end to take off. So I (having previously sussed out what I hoped would be a suitable location after the police had closed all local lay-bys) stopped and took a walk amongst the approach lights.

Didn't have to wait too long before -

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=767&pictureid=7677

(Not too bad for a smartphone camera)

This was followed by a Jetstream, which isn't much of a rarity here, Eastern Air run them up and down the coast to Aberdeen from here, but this one hung about - maybe it's just a pilot wanting to wait around for VeRA to get airborne.

Which she did -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2dVRQGLMDo

Nice low take off, held about 250-300' for ages before climbing and the Jetstream tucking in behind, I suspect it's a photo chase plane. :D

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=767&pictureid=7676

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=767&pictureid=7675

I'm one happy bunny. :woot:

[Jimbuna]

Great catch Tony....VeRA arrives at Tees Valley today so tomorrow should be a day to remember (weather permitting).

[Eichhörnchen]

Looking at the model Gannets above made me wonder whether anyone can name the carrierborne type pictured here; I built it from a vacform kit years ago. I can't remember the name of the kit manufacturer now, only the aircraft. Anyone recognise it??

(clue: you wouldn't have wanted THIS anywhere near your sub if you were on the other side)

[Jimbuna]

F4U Corsair

[Eichhörnchen]

Nah! You think I'd make it that easy? It's a post-war type.

[Jimbuna]

Nah! You think I'd make it that easy? It's a post-war type.

Post-war? You should have said....Grumman AF-2S Guardian :know:

[Eichhörnchen]

:haha: ha, ha! Yes, of course it is!:yeah:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Probably my last chance of seeing the two girls this weekend, I'm spoiled for choice - North Cotes, Cleethorpes, Kirmington (closest) plus a couple of other places. Fingers crossed for good weather, serviceable aircraft and a compliant family. :woot:

[Jimbuna]

Probably my last chance of seeing the two girls this weekend, I'm spoiled for choice - North Cotes, Cleethorpes, Kirmington (closest) plus a couple of other places. Fingers crossed for good weather, serviceable aircraft and a compliant family. :woot:

You probably know VeRA went tech the other day so if you do see her consider yersel extremely fortunate :)

[Jimbuna]

:haha: ha, ha! Yes, of course it is!:yeah:

You'll never kid a kidder :03: