NK rights abuses 'demand action'

[Jimbuna]

How many decades has it taken for the UN to wake up and smell the coffee?

The international community must act on evidence that crimes against humanity are being committed in North Korea, says a long-awaited UN report.

A panel of experts mandated by the UN's Human Rights Council said North Koreans had suffered "unspeakable atrocities", and that those responsible, including leader Kim Jong-un, must face justice.

The panel heard evidence of torture, political repression and other crimes.

Pyongyang refused to co-operate with the report and rejects its conclusions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26220304

[Wolferz]

Unless China decides to get in on the spanking, that child will get off on the affluenza defense:-?

[Jimbuna]

More than likely...unfortunately.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Considering that U.N. Human Rights Council's membership includes such pleasant countries as...


Egypt
Sudan
Zimbabwe
People's Republic of China
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia

...and few others. I'm not surprised at all. I suspect that reason they ”noticed” these issues is because there exist need to look carefully into somewhere else...


Nothing to see here! Look that fat bastard did it! :stare:

[Oberon]

Just another day at the office.

Eventually though South Korea is going to get some impatient that it'll invade North Korea and defeat it. :O:

[TarJak]

"There are no human rights violations in the Workers Paradise!" According to Kim.

The usual UN toothless tiger roars and every one ignores it.

[Ducimus]

The UK, demanding action on the DPRK? You'll have to excuse me for laughing.


Unless China decides to get in on the spanking, that child will get off on the affluenza defense:-?

This. China likes the DPRK because it acts as a buffer between themselves and the western world. Despite that they make everything in sold on shelves in the US, let us not forget that China is still a communist country, with it's own power aspirations.

Aside from that, action on North Korea will more then likely result in the resuming a full scale war in the land of fermented cabbage.

So, UN demanding action? :har::har: Oh that's rich.

[TarJak]

Security Council veto rules will kill any suggested actions in a the first round of voting. China doesn't want the UN sniffing too close to their own human rights record.

The report will end up in the round file.

[Tribesman]

How many decades has it taken for the UN to wake up and smell the coffee?


How many decades have they been making similar reports?
The only reason this report is different from all the other reports on N.Korea or any other country is that it was set up specifically due to N.Korea blocking the normal reports.

Considering that U.N. Human Rights Council's membership includes such pleasant countries as...



Egypt
Sudan
Zimbabwe
People's Republic of China
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia

...and few others. I'm not surprised at all. I suspect that reason they ”noticed” these issues is because there exist need to look carefully into somewhere else...


That might make sense if all those countries didn't get the usual reports done on them for their many human rights violations.

[fireftr18]

For those laughing and saying nothing will be done, I'm right there with you.
:har::har::har:

The only one that can really do anything is China. If South Korea tries anything, or invades, that gets us involved (Both the US and UK). If that happens, China will get involved on North Korea's side. Neither we, nor China really want that. So, logically, nothing will get done. As said before... :har::har:

[Cybermat47]

The sooner we end the Korean War the better. The damn thing's been going since the 1950's, let's get it over with as quickly and bloodlessly as possible.

[Jimbuna]

"There are no human rights violations in the Workers Paradise!" According to Kim.

The usual UN toothless tiger roars and every one ignores it.

Exactly!! :yep:

[mapuc]

There's only 3 way to get a real peace treaty

1. Let NK take over SK.

2. Invade NK

3. Hope the people in NK get tired and makes some kind of revolution.(fi this should happen we can either a, help them or b, ignore the ongoing fight)

There's is an another way, but it's a conspiracy way and that's hope they will find a lot of oil in the NK's underground.

Markus

[Ducimus]

The sooner we end the Korean War the better. The damn thing's been going since the 1950's, let's get it over with as quickly and bloodlessly as possible.

Oh that's easy. Simply withdraw our forces from south Korea, and say, "Fare thee well, your country is doing fine, we wish you the best of luck in future endeavors!"

But that's never going to happen. I think its because the Korean Peninsula is still considered a strategic position worth holding. Probably because of China and to a lesser extend Russia, but I'm just guessing.

Nope, status quo will reign supreme, just how our politicians like it.

edit:
There's only 3 way to get a real peace treaty

1. Let NK take over SK.

2. Invade NK

3. Hope the people in NK get tired and makes some kind of revolution.(fi this should happen we can either a, help them or b, ignore the ongoing fight)

There's is an another way, but it's a conspiracy way and that's hope they will find a lot of oil in the NK's underground.

Markus

You grossly underestimate the military capability of South Korea. From what I've seen while there, it would probably be the other way around. There's a running joke that the only reason we are there, is to keep the south from invading the north.

[Cybermat47]

You grossly underestimate the military capability of South Korea. From what I've seen while there, it would probably be the other way around. There's a running joke that the only reason we are there, is to keep the south from invading the north.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Gangneung_submarine_infiltration_incident

They took one look at the Sang-O and laughed their asses off.

[Platapus]

There's a running joke that the only reason we are there, is to keep the south from invading the north.

When I was there over 25 years ago, we had the same understanding. :03:

[Wolferz]

I think if anyone wants to do something about this travesty, it has to be the North Koreans themselves.
Rise up and earn your freedom!:yep:

[Oberon]

It's a bit hard to rise up when you've got nothing to rise up with and no energy through lack of food to do anything other than survive, or knowledge of the outside world to do...well...anything. Hard to imagine the daily life of someone deep in the DPRK, with no real contact with the outside world other than what the state media tells you.

Anyway, the DPRK isn't going anywhere fast, because the status quo is the best situation for nearly everyone involved in the situation.
Remember when East and West Germany reunified? Remember the economic chaos as the run down heavily industrial East Germany suddenly fell under the same economic portfolio as West Germany? The East/West divide still exists in Germany today to some extent, and it's been over twenty years.
Now, magnify that to the gulf that exists between the economic conditions of North Korea and South Korea. The South Korean economy would collapse under the strain of having to look after both itself and the North.
China wants the North to stay, both as a slight buffer zone between it and the west (although it has no such zone between it, Taiwan and Japan) and to prevent thousands of North Korean refugees crossing the border into China and completely wrecking the Chinese economy which is already starting to run into trouble. That is the only reason Beijing supports Pyongyang, otherwise they can't stand the Kim family, but they have to smile and be nice because if North Korea collapsed, it would be an economic disaster for the whole region, and that includes the US and Japan who trade with both China and South Korea. If those two economies ran into difficulty, Japan and the US will find themselves in difficulties too.
The only nation that would benefit from the unification of Korea is North Korea, but it doesn't have the resources to accomplish this task, and any attempt by Jong-un to order such a thing would likely see him suffer a 7.62mm migraine.

So, sit back and get comfortable folks because neither side are going anywhere for a loooong time. :O:

[Jimbuna]

^ Aye that :yep:

[Wolferz]

By the time the DPRK gets finished wiping out the citizens, we won't need to worry about them. China already has a problem with the North Koreans sneaking across their border, same as we do with the Mexicans. Both of these countries are run by elitists who are getting fat off their poor. It's now just a matter of time before they both collapse completely. Then China will annex North Korea and we'll annex Mexico. Neither scenario sounds good.:nope:

[Ducimus]

I think if anyone wants to do something about this travesty, it has to be the North Koreans themselves.
Rise up and earn your freedom!:yep:

That is going to be a little hard for them to do since their government has a monopoly on arms and food.

edit: What Oberon said. :P

[fireftr18]

I read an article some time ago about North Koreans that escaped to somewhere else. It said that the average North Koreans are shorter and have less muscle development than the average South Korean. The article also mentioned other issues such as education lacked compared to South Korea, standard of living lower, average age lower, and so on. A lot of things we expect, but haven't really seen specifically written.

[TarJak]

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2010/07/06/2945184.htm

This article from 2010 mentioned the height and strength differences. It also painted an interesting viewpoint on life in NK.

Link to the audio of the interview who is worth a listen if you can't see the video. http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/swf_barbarademick_full.mp3

[MGR1]

Looks like the Kim's also right children's literature:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25816000

"North Korea's leaders are often thought of as ruthless, secretive autocrats but rarely as popular children's authors. However, between issuing instructions about prison camps and the development of nuclear weapons, Kim Jong-un's father and grandfather apparently found time to write stories for the young."

Bizarre......:huh:

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

Bizarre indeed!!

I'd have thought they'd be more accomplished at writing horror stories :)

[Ducimus]

Looks like the Kim's also right children's literature:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25816000

"North Korea's leaders are often thought of as ruthless, secretive autocrats but rarely as popular children's authors. However, between issuing instructions about prison camps and the development of nuclear weapons, Kim Jong-un's father and grandfather apparently found time to write stories for the young."

Bizarre......:huh:

Mike.


Indoctrination starts at an early age.

[mapuc]

A couple of month ago a Danish newspaper had an article about the norht Korean and the possibility that they had started some kind of a revolt.
It was one of these article that you had to pay to read.

Made a search on the Internet, in english and found this

http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/kim-jongun-face-north-korean-revolution/26248


Markus