Sh4 win7 freeze

[bugs]

played Sh4 for years up to vista, loved it . puter crashed, formatted hard drive, installed win7 reloaded Sh4, re boot, loaded pch1,reboot, loaded pch2 rebooted, loaded pch 3 rebooted,loaded pch4 rebooted, can get to start screen hit play, searches for 30 sec. quits been trying for days, read all I can find, im lost help Cpt Bugs

[Mikemike47]

played Sh4 for years up to vista, loved it . puter crashed, formatted hard drive, installed win7 reloaded Sh4, re boot, loaded pch1,reboot, loaded pch2 rebooted, loaded pch 3 rebooted,loaded pch4 rebooted, can get to start screen hit play, searches for 30 sec. quits been trying for days, read all I can find, im lost help Cpt Bugs

pch stand for patch? I have played SH3-5 all in Windows 7 64bit. Try opening the sh4.exe shortcut. Right click shortcut, go to properties. Compatibility tab, I changed to XP SP3 or XP SP2 to work.

[bugs]

ive had enough 40 hrs of tring to get Sh4 to run is to much, never in my 30 yrs putering have I spent so much time on one game install, I hate up grading anything, if it works leave it alone, wish I still had vista, might try again someday when I calm down ex Capt Bugs

[TorpX]

I used to have Vista and installed Win7, 64 bit. I have run SH4 on both with no problems.

Take some time to recuperate, then maybe someone here can help you get things running.

[pabbi]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=153900&page=7

This link refers to SH3 and Win 7 but should work with SH4 as well.

[cdrsubron7]

played Sh4 for years up to vista, loved it . puter crashed, formatted hard drive, installed win7 reloaded Sh4, re boot, loaded pch1,reboot, loaded pch2 rebooted, loaded pch 3 rebooted,loaded pch4 rebooted, can get to start screen hit play, searches for 30 sec. quits been trying for days, read all I can find, im lost help Cpt Bugs


Let me see if I understand you correctly. You installed SH4, then loaded all earlier patchs then used the 1.4 patch also. If this is the case, you didn't need to do this. Uninstall and then reinstall SH4. Then just install v1.4 patch. This patch contains all earlier patches. You should then be able to play with no or minimal problems. :D

[CapnScurvy]

I'm with cdrsubron7. Patch 1.4 is "all inclusive" of all other patches preceeding it. If you've got the original game disk (v1.0, like mine) just download and run the patch 1.4 after doing a "clean install" of the game.

Make sure you clean out your old "SH4" folder.....found in the Documents folder. This folder (not to be confused with the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder) is automatically made when the game first starts. It holds your game options settings, and any game saves when you make them. You should get used to cleaning out this folder every so often if your getting problems with mods. It's this folder that may save a changed modded file that you no longer use, but it gets put into use because its part of the saved files you made while the mod was loaded.

I don't have Win7, but Vista was terrible with games put into the Programs(x86) folder. I learned to always install games in another folder other than the default Programs(x86) folder. Make a new folder under the C: drive, and name it "My Games"....put the SH4 game there.

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One thing no one asked:

Do you have the original game disk? Or, are you using a Downloaded version of the game? What version of the game is it supposed to be? One way to tell is to do a clean uninstall/reinstall, then run the game without adding your first patch. The game version is found in the lower, right corner of the "main" game screen:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Version10.png


It's been reported that Steam downloads are pushing out version 1.3's!!

[bugs]

Im back, ready to try again. I had the original DVD of SH4 for yrs loaded and playing well with the 4.1 patch , on my desktop with win vista ; now it is
windows 7 , 32-bit
Pentium dual 1.8 GHZ 3.6
4 GB memory
100 GB free on drive
NVIDIA GT 220 2175 MB memory 1074 dedicated
direct x 10
monitor resolution 1440 x 900
adaptor drive 9.18.13.3221

loaded sh4 in its own dir. , compatable xp2 = it does nothing
loaded same added 4.1 patch before finish compatable xp2 ,
App crash 4.1 exe
app version 120049985
its the same with down loaded or my saved 4.1
I check the Registry & doc file after every uninstall
reboot after every install before trying
tried in Admin, also

im lost

[cdrsubron7]

Im back, ready to try again. I had the original DVD of SH4 for yrs loaded and playing well with the 4.1 patch , on win vista ; now it is
win7 32-bit
Pentium dual 1.8 GHZ 3.6
4 GB memory
100 GB free on drive
NVIDIA GT 220 2175 MB memory 1074 dedicated
direct x 10
monitor resolution 1440 x 900
adaptor drive 9.18.13.3221

loaded sh4 in its own dir. , compatable xp2 = it does nothing
loaded same added 4.1 patch before finish compatable xp2 ,
App crash 4.1 exe
app version 120049985
its the same with down loaded or my saved 4.1
I check the Registry & doc file after every uninstall
reboot after every install before trying
tried in Admin, also

im lost

Are you trying to play SH4 on a laptop by any chance?

[TG626]

It's been reported that Steam downloads are pushing out version 1.3's!!

Sidebar: that is correct, and the steam version can not be updated using the patcher from UbiSoft. As a result I bought the game twice. Once from Steam and the again as a digital download from Amazon.com. :/\\!!

[CapnScurvy]

At a boy Bugs!! Don't give up just yet!

I'm guessing you've seen this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=150997) sticky thread by AVGWarhawk?

Before you jump to patching your game to version 1.4, try getting your original DVD version 1.0 working first. As Mikemike47 points out, go to your "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder (where ever you've put it) and open the "sh4.exe" file found there. It will have a black sub as an icon:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg

The above image is the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder (version 1.0), with the addition of the JSGME app folders and files included. Right click the "sh4.exe" execution file, go to Properties. Click the Compatibility tab, then change to XP SP3 or XP SP2. Save your changes. Back at the main game folder, double left click the SH4.exe file to start the game. See if this gets you started.

I always go to the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" folder to start the game using this .exe file. I don't use a shortcut simply because I'm always using JSGME (found in the main game folder) changing out mods.

If things seem to work using this process, you could make a shortcut of the amended sh4.exe file and put it on your desktop (if that's where you like starting the game).

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One thing I notice about your system is you've got 4 gigs of memory to play with. Dependent on whether you get your game working or not......since you've got 4 gigs of memory, you can use a program called Large Address Aware (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) to make the game use more than the 2 gigs of memory it was intended to only use (the game won't use over two gigs unless you tell it to...even if you've got plenty of memory installed). This LAA has helped many gamers who are using older games (SH4 was released in 2007, that's old in computer terms) to have the game run much better. A 32 bit computer will need a special switch thrown in order to use the extra memory boost that comes from using LAA. The procedure is in the documentation. A 64 bit won't need anything special. Just install as documented. A 32 bit system will get an additional 1 gig boost with LAA. A 64 bit system can use up to 4 gigs of memory for this old game. Twice the amount the Developer's had in mind when the game was first released!

A couple of notes about LAA. The documentation states you'll need to have ".NET Framework 3.5" or better, loaded on your computer. You can check to see if you've got it by going to: (On a Vista OS) "Control Panel/Programs and Features". If you don't see a program called "MicroSoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1" or something simular....you'll need to install it from "Windows Update/Optional Updates". Also, follow the "Spoiler" process for your Win7 system found on the LAA page. This is the "Switch" I'm talking about for a 32 bit system.

I can confirm this LAA works as described. It helped an older game called "Sid Meier's Railroad's" run on a new 4 gig laptop without a hick up. Before loading it....CTD's in less than 5 minutes.

But, lets get your game working first.:salute:

[bugs]

At a boy Bugs!! Don't give up just yet!

I'm guessing you've seen this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=150997) sticky thread by AVGWarhawk?

Before you jump to patching your game to version 1.4, try getting your original DVD version 1.0 working first. As Mikemike47 points out, go to your "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder (where ever you've put it) and open the "sh4.exe" file found there. It will have a black sub as an icon:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg

The above image is the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder (version 1.0), with the addition of the JSGME app folders and files included. Right click the "sh4.exe" execution file, go to Properties. Click the Compatibility tab, then change to XP SP3 or XP SP2. Save your changes. Back at the main game folder, double left click the SH4.exe file to start the game. See if this gets you started.

I always go to the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" folder to start the game using this .exe file. I don't use a shortcut simply because I'm always using JSGME (found in the main game folder) changing out mods.

If things seem to work using this process, you could make a shortcut of the amended sh4.exe file and put it on your desktop (if that's where you like starting the game).

==========

One thing I notice about your system is you've got 4 gigs of memory to play with. Dependent on whether you get your game working or not......since you've got 4 gigs of memory, you can use a program called Large Address Aware (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) to make the game use more than the 2 gigs of memory it was intended to only use (the game won't use over two gigs unless you tell it to...even if you've got plenty of memory installed). This LAA has helped many gamers who are using older games (SH4 was released in 2007, that's old in computer terms) to have the game run much better. A 32 bit computer will need a special switch thrown in order to use the extra memory boost that comes from using LAA. The procedure is in the documentation. A 64 bit won't need anything special. Just install as documented. A 32 bit system will get an additional 1 gig boost with LAA. A 64 bit system can use up to 4 gigs of memory for this old game. Twice the amount the Developer's had in mind when the game was first released!

But, lets get your game working first.:salute:

my disc Sh4 2007 1.2.00 had since the first
tries in all compatabilities , game only , in A sub game folder, no go

[CapnScurvy]

Not that it makes a difference (so I've got it straight), your DVD is version 1.2. Guess they stamped out DVD versions of 1.2 for a while.

I realize your familiar with Vista OS, but I'm wondering how much of a difference is there between Vista and Win7 with the file "Properties"? Below is the sh4.exe file Properties on a Vista OS:


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Vista_1_zps8e17efbf.jpg

If you wanted to have the game run in a different mode other than Vista (which you didn't need to do for Vista....the game runs fine as-is), you would check mark the above "Compatibility mode" menu and choose one of the different types....like Windows XP (Service Pack 2). Also, check mark the "Run this program as an Administrator". You would click "Apply" to make it take effect, then close out of that tab.

I'm wondering if you've gone to the "Security" tab and have the following set?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/ScreenShot002copy_zpse2971fcb.jpg


Your Win7 menu may look different, but there should still be some resemblance. Your "Administrators xxxxxx" should have "Full Control" check marked under the "Allow" heading. If not, make it so, then click "Apply" to set the permission.

I'm not a Win7 user, so I'm unable to give you the exact advice....or show you exactly what your menu's should look like. Maybe someone else can help you with the details. But, I'm figuring there is something simple that's keeping your game from running.

[bugs]

Not that it makes a difference (so I've got it straight), your DVD is version 1.2. Guess they stamped out DVD versions of 1.2 for a while.

I realize your familiar with Vista OS, but I'm wondering how much of a difference is there between Vista and Win7 with the file "Properties"? Below is the sh4.exe file Properties on a Vista OS:


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Vista_1_zps8e17efbf.jpg

If you wanted to have the game run in a different mode other than Vista (which you didn't need to do for Vista....the game runs fine as-is), you would check mark the above "Compatibility mode" menu and choose one of the different types....like Windows XP (Service Pack 2). Also, check mark the "Run this program as an Administrator". You would click "Apply" to make it take effect, then close out of that tab.

I'm wondering if you've gone to the "Security" tab and have the following set?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/ScreenShot002copy_zpse2971fcb.jpg


Your Win7 menu may look different, but there should still be some resemblance. Your "Administrators xxxxxx" should have "Full Control" check marked under the "Allow" heading. If not, make it so, then click "Apply" to set the permission.

I'm not a Win7 user, so I'm unable to give you the exact advice....or show you exactly what your menu's should look like. Maybe someone else can help you with the details. But, I'm figuring there is something simple that's keeping your game from running.

it is the same, except object name c:\a sub game\sh4.exe

[Pisces]

Those security properties are default (and good!), and compatibility settings changes should not matter. I never set those any different than default, and it still works fine. (I've had SH4 on Vista 32bit and Win7 64 bit) All I did was install it into a self-created folder in C:\games\Silent Hunter 4, instead of the default location in Program Files.

You say you have DirectX 10 on your system. But that happens to be missing some parts that DirectX 9.0c has ( which is required). During install it probably checked if 9.0c or later was installed, and with DX 10 it probably skipped it. But I suggest you install this too:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34429

If that does not make it work, then I suspect some bad files from a previous install attempt are still lingering in there (SH4 folder in Documents, or in the install folder). Try to remove any remaining folders after de-installing the game. But I think you mentioned you already did that. But maybe not yet for the single patch to 1.4. And this time, run the installer and patch application deliberately under administrator role: rightclick on the file, and "Run as administrator". Your profile probably is an administrator, but isn't always regarded as so when installing things.

In my faint memory, by default Ubisoft puts a short cut on the desktop (and maybe start menu) to some weird application gu.exe. This is eventually starts SH4.exe, and no doubt does some other weird stuff in the background for god-knows-why. I just remember I ignored it and make use of a shortcut to SH4.exe directly. Try to see if that works, starting SH4.exe directly by double-clicking on it.

[bugs]

Those security properties are default (and good!), and compatibility settings changes should not matter. I never set those any different than default, and it still works fine. (I've had SH4 on Vista 32bit and Win7 64 bit) All I did was install it into a self-created folder in C:\games\Silent Hunter 4, instead of the default location in Program Files.

You say you have DirectX 10 on your system. But that happens to be missing some parts that DirectX 9.0c has ( which is required). During install it probably checked if 9.0c or later was installed, and with DX 10 it probably skipped it. But I suggest you install this too:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34429

If that does not make it work, then I suspect some bad files from a previous install attempt are still lingering in there (SH4 folder in Documents, or in the install folder). Try to remove any remaining folders after de-installing the game. But I think you mentioned you already did that. But maybe not yet for the single patch to 1.4. And this time, run the installer and patch application deliberately under administrator role: rightclick on the file, and "Run as administrator". Your profile probably is an administrator, but isn't always regarded as so when installing things.

In my faint memory, by default Ubisoft puts a short cut on the desktop (and maybe start menu) to some weird application gu.exe. This is eventually starts SH4.exe, and no doubt does some other weird stuff in the background for god-knows-why. I just remember I ignored it and make use of a shortcut to SH4.exe directly. Try to see if that works, starting SH4.exe directly by double-clicking on it.

it does load Directx 9 somewhere

[CapnScurvy]

When ever I've reinstalled my game (when I was using my original DVD version 1.0, or the DVD "Gold Edition" which has version 1.5) I always allowed the game to install the DirectX version that came with the install package. I think my Vista computer has DirectX 10 for the graphics card it has installed, yet I always made sure the game ran its installation of the DirectX 9 files it has on the DVD. Not that I know for sure, but letting the install Wizard add whatever DirectX 9 files that came with the game seemed the right thing to do.

Thanks Pisces for looking into this too....... I think you're right in that there may be some files left over somewhere that are making a conflict.

Funny you should mention the gu.exe file. I originally had the below image in my last post to show the main game folder "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific":

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/ScreenShot020copy_zps793f28c9.jpg


Like you, I was going to mention to Bugs not to use this gu.exe file to open the game. But, I realized Bug's is using an older version of the game and the gu.exe isn't in the older versions of the game. The gu.exe didn't get put into the game until version 1.5.

[Pisces]

...

Like you, I was going to mention to Bugs not to use this gu.exe file to open the game. But, I realized Bug's is using an older version of the game and the gu.exe isn't in the older versions of the game. The gu.exe didn't get put into the game until version 1.5.Oh ok, didn't know that. I stepped onto the boat when 1.5 was released.

[bugs]

Im back, ready to try again. I had the original DVD of SH4 for yrs loaded and playing well with the 4.1 patch , on my desktop with win vista ; now it is
windows 7 , 32-bit
Pentium dual 1.8 GHZ 3.6
4 GB memory
100 GB free on drive
NVIDIA GT 220 2175 MB memory 1074 dedicated
direct x 10
monitor resolution 1440 x 900
adaptor drive 9.18.13.3221

loaded sh4 in its own dir. , compatable xp2 = it does nothing
loaded same added 4.1 patch before finish compatable xp2 ,
App crash 4.1 exe
app version 120049985
its the same with down loaded or my saved 4.1
I check the Registry & doc file after every uninstall
reboot after every install before trying
tried in Admin, also

im lost

well ive tried,
updated all drivers I could find
cleaned Registry with 2 programs and looked through it myself
scanned for anything that could be found on the hard drive, nothing all is well
dvd player works good
loaded game only ,
direct x 9 loads, adobe does not, better one found
reboot
tried to start game, sh4. exe, scans disc for 6 seconds stops
this is my 30th try, driving me nuts
land locked Bugs

[CapnScurvy]

I'm suspecting your disk might have a problem. You said your game is version 1.2, isn't it? Does your "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" folder look much like this one?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg


Your game folders/files won't have the 4 JSGME folder/files that are pictured, but the rest should look the same. This is my 1.0 version of the game. You said when you try to execute the game it:

scans disc for 6 seconds stops

So, it's looking for the copy protection that's on these older disks and isn't finding it. As long as the folder/file structure of the game seems intact (as described above without the JSGME files), why not patch your game to version 1.4. I'm pretty sure it was this version that removed the copy protection requirements to having the disk accessed for starting the game. You'll not need to put the disk into the DVD player for checking the copy protection with version 1.4.

Here's a site that has the "silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Silent_Hunter_14_Patch;104929)" patch. There are plenty of different sites that do; even here at SubSim.

Readme File:
1. Uninstall SH4, then reinstall SH4. Do not play the game until applying the v1.4 patch.

I don't think you'll need to reinstall, since the game hasn't run yet. But why not try adding the 1.4 patch, then try to start the game? The copy protection will be gone, and you've added the last free patch you can get for the game without having to buy the 1.5 version with the U-Boat Missions.

[bugs]

I'm suspecting your disk might have a problem. You said your game is version 1.2, isn't it? Does your "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" folder look much like this one?

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg


Your game folders/files won't have the 4 JSGME folder/files that are pictured, but the rest should look the same. This is my 1.0 version of the game. You said when you try to execute the game it:



So, it's looking for the copy protection that's on these older disks and isn't finding it. As long as the folder/file structure of the game seems intact (as described above without the JSGME files), why not patch your game to version 1.4. I'm pretty sure it was this version that removed the copy protection requirements to having the disk accessed for starting the game. You'll not need to put the disk into the DVD player for checking the copy protection with version 1.4.

Here's a site that has the "silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Silent_Hunter_14_Patch;104929)" patch. There are plenty of different sites that do; even here at SubSim.

Readme File:
1. Uninstall SH4, then reinstall SH4. Do not play the game until applying the v1.4 patch.

I don't think you'll need to reinstall, since the game hasn't run yet. But why not try adding the 1.4 patch, then try to start the game? The copy protection will be gone, and you've added the last free patch you can get for the game without having to buy the 1.5 version with the U-Boat Missions.


still no go
it still scan disc with 4 1 4 installed

[aanker]

When you get to 1.4, be sure your shortcut points to SH4.exe not Gu.exe

Right click on it and hit Properties, should point to sh4.exe wherever it is installed.

Here is mine:
C:\GAME_SH4\GAME_Du_1\sh4.exe

one more:
C:\GAME_SH4\Silent Hunter Wolves\sh4.exe

I apologize if you already knew this.

Good luck

[CapnScurvy]

still no go
it still scan disc with 4 1 4 installed

It shouldn't need to scan your disk at all. With version 1.4 (which I have loaded on my computer because I still make a few mods for it) it doesn't require to have the disk in the DVD drive at all. So, I don't have it in there to start with. I've also got my original version of the game (v 1.0), it DOES require me to have the original disk in the DVD player to start.

With the 1.4 patch installed on your original 1.2 version of the game, it should be the same as mine. No disk needed to start the game. Try starting the game without the disk in the computer.

Aanker is right......don't start the game using the gu.exe execution file. Start the game with the sh4.exe file instead:


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/ScreenShot020copy_zps793f28c9.jpg


Your new game file structure should look a lot like this one after the 1.4 patch is added. Pay no attention to the 4 JSGME files that are seen in the above image of the "Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific" main game folder. The "MODS" folder, the "JonesSoft.txt","JSGME.exe", and the "JSGME.ini" files are from adding JSGME to the game. A couple of new files/folders that were added to your game with the patch are the "Resources" folder, the "gu.exe" file, and the "SI.bin" file (which won't be added to this game folder until your first sucessful start of the game).

[aanker]

What is the name of the folder where you installed Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific? My example shows a folder on the C:\ drive named GAME_SH4.

What is the name of the folder on your C:\ drive? (or D:\ drive if you have one?)

The file structure on my C:\ drive looks like this - (simplified):

C:\
GAME_SH4
.... Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
.... Another game, etc, etc
Program files
Program files (x86)
Users
Windows

What does yours look like? <<< important

You said you installed the DVD 1.0.
Did it ask for a password? It should have presented a box screen - some people put the password in the wrong space, it is easy to do.

Were you able to begin a patrol on this fresh DVD 1.0 install after your reboot? <<< important

Then you said you installed 1.4 over 1.0. and rebooted. Now it searches and quits when you try to start it.

Would you please answer my two important questions above? The password is important too, but if the game let you begin a patrol in 1.0 you entered it successfully.

After reading page 1 I saw someone already mentioned gu.exe - I'm sorry.

[bugs]

What is the name of the folder where you installed Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific? My example shows a folder on the C:\ drive named GAMES.

What is the name of the folder on your C:\ drive? (or D:\ drive if you have one?)

The file structure on my C:\ drive looks like this - (simplified):

C:\
GAMES
.... Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
.... Another game, etc, etc
Program files
Program files (x86)
Users
Windows

What does yours look like? <<< important

You said you installed the DVD 1.0.
Did it ask for a password? It should have presented a box screen - some people put the password in the wrong space, it is easy to do.

Were you able to begin a patrol on this fresh DVD 1.0 install after your reboot? <<< important

Then you said you installed 1.4 over 1.0. and rebooted. Now it searches and quits when you try to start it.

Would you please answer my two important questions above? The password is important too, but if the game let you begin a patrol in 1.0 you entered it successfully.

After reading page 1 I saw someone already mentioned gu.exe - I'm sorry.

installed to C:\ a sub game
no pass word ever that I remember
game only reboot, start Sh4.exe ,scans disc. for 6=8 secs. stops
version 1.2 of SH4, 2007

[CapnScurvy]

Bugs, I'm not trying to push you into an extra purchase (that may not work any better than what's happening with your 1.2 version of the game), but iNetVideo (http://www.inetvideo.com/products/silent-hunter-iv-wolves-of-the-pacific-gold-edition-pc) has the "Gold Edition" DVD disk for sale at $19.99 + $2.50 Shipping in the U.S.

The "Gold Edition" is the SH4 game patched to version 1.5; it doesn't have the requirement to leave the disk in the DVD player to start the game; and it has the U-Boat Missions Add-on included (not that this addition is important unless you like playing the German side of things). Just a thought, since we're not getting very far with what your doing now. :up:

[aanker]

CapnScurvy has the best advice, just buy the SH4 Gold in a box. It is already updated to ver 1.5 U-Boats plus many improvements to the US boats from 1.4.

I am surprised ver 1.0 didn't require an Activation registration code that looked like this:

'Activation key': VT5K75KKLTUGQOY2JC7OTM2H0JGUXU4
(I just made this one up)

I bought mine from D2D - digital downloads and was required to enter an activation code... there was also a multi-player code.

I did buy the DVD too, but never opened the box because I thought it would be such a wonderful game, a 'collectors item' - little did I know it would require four patches, and a fifth 'add on' that needed to be purchased, and also needed to be heavily modded.

After entering these codes, SH4 ver 1.0 started right up.

So, your file structure looks like this, right?:

C:\
a sub game
.... Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
Program files
Program files (x86)
Users
Windows

If so, that is correct. Someone with a DVD install should chime in about the password - activation code, shortly.

Let's see........

[CapnScurvy]

Well, that's right Aanker....there is a "CD-Key" on the back cover of the version 1.0 Manual. It looks something like this:
SH4-2T6Y-AS3D-YUI4-LKJ9

Its been a long time since I installed v1.0 on my computer, but if I remember correctly the "CD-Key" is asked for during the initial installation Wizard. Once you've verified the key, you'll not need to use it again. You WILL need to keep the original disk in the DVD player for the game to start.....but that's where Bug's problems start. His execution of the game looks for the disk, but isn't finding the correct file on the disk to verify its an original disk.....so the game doesn't start.

Its possible the disk is faulty, causing the execution file not to find what its looking for. But, for my money bugs has tried just about everything there is to try.....that's why I though purchasing the latest DVD v1.5 SH4 game might be the best bet for him. It's not worth the aggravation if the old disk is not working as expected.

[bugs]

Well, that's right Aanker....there is a "CD-Key" on the back cover of the version 1.0 Manual. It looks something like this:
SH4-2T6Y-AS3D-YUI4-LKJ9

Its been a long time since I installed v1.0 on my computer, but if I remember correctly the "CD-Key" is asked for during the initial installation Wizard. Once you've verified the key, you'll not need to use it again. You WILL need to keep the original disk in the DVD player for the game to start.....but that's where Bug's problems start. His execution of the game looks for the disk, but isn't finding the correct file on the disk to verify its an original disk.....so the game doesn't start.

Its possible the disk is faulty, causing the execution file not to find what its looking for. But, for my money bugs has tried just about everything there is to try.....that's why I though purchasing the latest DVD v1.5 SH4 game might be the best bet for him. It's not worth the aggravation if the old disk is not working as expected.

I do have the CD-Key but it hasnt asked for it \
the disc worked fine 2 mths ago, im betting its good
I hate being a Quitter, drives me crazy
thanks for all the help, didn't work so far but I learned a lot,
im a gamer from way back to my first 286
I spend a lot more time gaming than learning how this machine works
I pay for that sometimes
back to my trains till I can get the SH 4 gold
Happy Steaming to all {I was a surface sailor }
Seaman Bugs on leave

[CapnScurvy]

I decided to look into UbiSoft's support for a couple of things I've been wondering about. First its Copy Protection system. With SHIII, UbiSoft used the StarForce Digital Rights Management (DRM copy protection) version 3.0. This type of protection was supposedly removed from UbiSoft games after April, 2006 (a huge multi-million dollar lawsuit was pending).....esepcially its U.S. release versions of its games. From what I've read, there may have been some games released after this date using the EU (European) versions that still had it included. Not that UbiSoft is very forth coming about it, but there are differences between the U.S. versions, and the EU versions. Here's a FAQ from UbiSoft Support (https://support.ubi.com/en-US/FAQ.aspx?platformid=9&brandid=236&productid=1721&faqid=kA030000000eRYsCAM):

Question: When I enter the key given to 'check the disk', it says that the key was entered incorrectly. What is the problem?

Answer: Please make sure that you are entering the key correctly.

You only need to enter the first (larger) 25 digit string of numbers and letters listed in the center of the sticker inside the box. Disregard the smaller digit string in the lower corner of the sticker.

The install code is: MM6LP-ASGAF-N4T5A-VJ9TV-MRCTE

* Please note that this key can ONLY be used on the US retail version of the game. This key is not valid for the digital download, or European versions of the game.

UbiSoft makes it apparent there are differences between the two world regional versions of the game.

My question about what exactly is the DRM in Bugs version 1.2 is my thought? I've read else where that some of UbiSoft's games released for different world regions will have different copy protection systems. If this is the case, then there may be reason to think the DRM is the problem when using a Windows7 OS.

I looked at Starforce's website and found this (http://www.star-force.com/support/users/windows7/):

Below 3.07.018
Application will never work under Windows 7.
Users that have an application protected with the version below 3.07.018, should contact an application publisher/developer to get a patch, which will contain newer protection version that supports Windows 7.

What this means is Starforce admits versions of its copy protection below the above will not work with Win7. This means without intervention from Starforce an older game having the above version of copy protection won't work.

Now, I'm not saying your original DVD version 1.2 fits this criteria.....but there may be an answer to why you can't get it to work with Win7. Your DVD could be one of the EU versions, which COULD have the older Starforce DRM included. If so, this may be the problem.

[bugs]

I decided to look into UbiSoft's support for a couple of things I've been wondering about. First its Copy Protection system. With SHIII, UbiSoft used the StarForce Digital Rights Management (DRM copy protection) version 3.0. This type of protection was supposedly removed from UbiSoft games after April, 2006 (a huge multi-million dollar lawsuit was pending).....esepcially its U.S. release versions of its games. From what I've read, there may have been some games released after this date using the EU (European) versions that still had it included. Not that UbiSoft is very forth coming about it, but there are differences between the U.S. versions, and the EU versions. Here's a FAQ from UbiSoft Support (https://support.ubi.com/en-US/FAQ.aspx?platformid=9&brandid=236&productid=1721&faqid=kA030000000eRYsCAM):



UbiSoft makes it apparent there are differences between the two world regional versions of the game.

My question about what exactly is the DRM in Bugs version 1.2 is my thought? I've read else where that some of UbiSoft's games released for different world regions will have different copy protection systems. If this is the case, then there may be reason to think the DRM is the problem when using a Windows7 OS.

I looked at Starforce's website and found this (http://www.star-force.com/support/users/windows7/):



What this means is Starforce admits versions of its copy protection below the above will not work with Win7. This means without intervention from Starforce an older game having the above version of copy protection won't work.

Now, I'm not saying your original DVD version 1.2 fits this criteria.....but there may be an answer to why you can't get it to work with Win7. Your DVD could be one of the EU versions, which COULD have the older Starforce DRM included. If so, this may be the problem.

no protection app. found with sfhelper

[aanker]

installed to C:\ a sub game
no pass word ever that I remember
game only reboot, start Sh4.exe ,scans disc. for 6=8 secs. stops
version 1.2 of SH4, 2007
Did it ever start before being patched to 1.2 meaning did the install from the DVD ver 1.0 ever start? Sounds like you ordered Gold anyway which is smart - I am just curious.

Great information about Starforce CapnScurvy. I ran across a map of the various regions of compatibility around the world years ago. It would 'suck' to live near a regional border...

[bugs]

Did it ever start before being patched to 1.2 meaning did the install from the DVD ver 1.0 ever start? Sounds like you ordered Gold anyway which is smart - I am just curious.

Great information about Starforce CapnScurvy. I ran across a map of the various regions of compatibility around the world years ago. It would 'suck' to live near a regional border...

no did not start dvd 1.0 by its self

[aanker]

no did not start dvd 1.0 by its self
This might be the issue, ..... I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure after installing the disk, ver. 1.0, SH4 likes to get the registration activation key, then start the game up, and it makes a save game folder and changes some configuration files in the game files, and also in the My Documents SH4 Save Game location.

After getting 1.0 to run - only long enough to see it on your screen, exit SH4, and re-boot the computer to clear the memory & temp files.

After the computer restarts, install the 1.4 patch, not 1.1 or 1.2. (they are in 1.4).

Then, configure the shortcut to use sh4.exe - not gu.exe, and reboot the computer again.

After re-starting, SH4 should start up and not need the DVD.

Be sure to install to:

C:\
a sub game
.... Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
Program files
Program files (x86)
Users
Windows

[bugs]

This might be the issue, ..... I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure after installing the disk, ver. 1.0, SH4 likes to get the registration activation key, then start the game up, and it makes a save game folder and changes some configuration files in the game files, and also in the My Documents SH4 Save Game location.

After getting 1.0 to run - only long enough to see it on your screen, exit SH4, and re-boot the computer to clear the memory & temp files.

After the computer restarts, install the 1.4 patch, not 1.1 or 1.2. (they are in 1.4).

Then, configure the shortcut to use sh4.exe - not gu.exe, and reboot the computer again.

After re-starting, SH4 should start up and not need the DVD.

Be sure to install to:

C:\
a sub game
.... Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
Program files
Program files (x86)
Users
Windows

im back got Sh4 Gold
the same thing happened
loaded fine, wont start up
tried to start a second time it said Sh4 all ready running but i cant see it
must be video problem im guessing
Task manager processes has it loaded into memory
no app running
back to square one
Capt. BUGS , back from leave
WAITING ON THE DOCK

[CapnScurvy]

im back got Sh4 Gold
the same thing happened
loaded fine, wont start up
tried to start a second time it said Sh4 all ready running but i cant see it
must be video problem im guessing
Task manager processes has it loaded into memory
no app running

You've stated earlier that your computer specs are:

windows 7 , 32-bit
Pentium dual 1.8 GHZ 3.6
4 GB memory
100 GB free on drive
NVIDIA GT 220 2175 MB memory 1074 dedicated
direct x 10
monitor resolution 1440 x 900
adaptor drive 9.18.13.3221

This is a desktop computer right....not a lap top?

Your GT 220 should be just fine unless there's some physical reason for it to not work right. It's quite faster than my original Radeon X1650 which ran the game just fine.

As long as you allowed the game to check/install the DirectX 9.0c drivers during the install wizard....I would think the problem lies more in how you have Windows 7 set up. If you can't find the game in the Toolbar, along the bottom of the screen......yet it tells you its running in Task Manager......I'm thinking its something simple.

[aanker]

I know nothing about Gold other than it is similar to SH4 ver 1.5 U-Boat Missions and the 'final' fixes to the US Boats.

In addition to what CapnScurvy said/asked, specifically about DirectX 9.0c drivers, and do you have a PC or Laptop, I have one or two questions:

Did it ask for an activation key - or some other registration number?

Where is it installed, what is the path?

C:\ >> a sub game >> Silent Hunter 4 ??

... or if you prefer in 'Detail View' looking at your HD C:\ in Windows Explorer:

C:\
a sub game
........ Silent Hunter 4
other folders
Program files
Windows

By any chance is the SH4 Icon on your Start button? Sometimes New Programs have their icons showing after a new install.

This is bugging me bugs, I want it to run for you.

[bugs]

I know nothing about Gold other than it is similar to SH4 ver 1.5 U-Boat Missions and the 'final' fixes to the US Boats.

In addition to what CapnScurvy said/asked, specifically about DirectX 9.0c drivers, and do you have a PC or Laptop, I have one or two questions:

Did it ask for an activation key - or some other registration number?

Where is it installed, what is the path?

C:\ >> a sub game >> Silent Hunter 4 ??

... or if you prefer in 'Detail View' looking at your HD C:\ in Windows Explorer:

C:\
a sub game
........ Silent Hunter 4
other folders
Program files
Windows

By any chance is the SH4 Icon on your Start button? Sometimes New Programs have their icons showing after a new install.

This is bugging me bugs, I want it to run for you.

this is a desk top
direct x9 loads
no activation key asked for
C: a sub game >SH4.exe
it is in Start menu, no icon

[aanker]

this is a desk top
direct x9 loads
no activation key asked for
C: a sub game >SH4.exe
it is in Start menu, no icon
Yours is:

C:\ >> a sub game >> SH4.exe

... in 'Detail View':

C:\
a sub game
............ SH4.exe
other folders
Program files
Windows

I'm not sure if this makes a difference, your install is straight to the root C:\

I've always installed 'Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific' into a folder called GAME_SH4, and SH4.exe would be in 'Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific'

C:\
GAME_SH4 <-- (any name)
........ Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
............................... SH4.exe
other folders
Program files
Windows

C:\ >> GAME_SH4 >> Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific >> SH4.exe

Anyone know if this makes a difference?

[bugs]

Yours is:

C:\ >> a sub game >> SH4.exe

... in 'Detail View':

C:\
a sub game
............ SH4.exe
other folders
Program files
Windows

I'm not sure if this makes a difference, your install is straight to the root C:\

I've always installed 'Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific' into a folder called GAMES, and SH4.exe would be in 'Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific'

C:\
GAMES <-- (any name)
........ Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific
............................... SH4.exe
other folders
Program files
Windows

C:\ >> GAMES >> Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific >> SH4.exe

Anyone know if this makes a difference?

reinstalled
C:\ sub game\ubisoft\silent hunter w-o-p\sh4.exe
task manager; app. is running
still cant see it

[aanker]

Weird...... this is the strangest installation issue - like CapnScurvy says, this is probably something simple we are missing.

Probably should go to Task Manager and shut it down.

Then will you try going to the folder here sh4.exe is:
C:\ sub game\ubisoft\silent hunter w-o-p\sh4.exe

... and right-click on sh4.exe then select 'Send to' and select >> Desktop (create shortcut)
- (or have you already done this)

If you double-click that desktop shortcut it may start up - or you've already tried and no joy.

My Win7 didn't have any compatibility issues, what are people suggesting for compatibility now, XP?

btw, I lied - my SH4 is not in GAMES, it is in GAME_SH4. I'll edit my posts - my mistake.

One more thing, the graphics card issue some have:
4. As a side note, sometime the very first time you start SH4 with Vista, the menu screen will be black yet the music is playing, etc. No problem, open up the task manager and shut down the game. Go to your video card tweak program and reset the card to the default values(usually just a box to check and click OK. Start the game and the menu should not be black anymore. The game should look as it usually does. Close it out. Go back to your video card tweak program and reset the card to your liking. That's it, you will never have to do that again(unless you do a complete reinstall down the road)

[bugs]

[QUOTE=aanker;2180170]Weird...... this is the strangest installation issue - like CapnScurvy says, this is probably something simple we are missing.

Probably should go to Task Manager and shut it down.

Then will you try going to the folder here sh4.exe is:
C:\ sub game\ubisoft\silent hunter w-o-p\sh4.exe

... and right-click on sh4.exe then select 'Send to' and select >> Desktop (create shortcut)
- (or have you already done this)

If you double-click that desktop shortcut it may start up - or you've already tried and no joy.

My Win7 didn't have any compatibility issues, what are people suggesting for compatibility now, XP?

btw, I lied - my SH4 is not in GAMES, it is in GAME_SH4. I'll edit my posts - my mistake.

One more thing, the graphics card issue some have:[/QUO i got a desk top icon
task manager; loaded into memory, app. showes its running
still no go
driving me crazy, been in every program looking for something that might matter
musted have reloaded 30 times rebooted 60 times
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[TorpX]

I wonder if this is not due to having file/registry remnants that were not removed. I'm no expert, but I've read getting cleaning all the registry bits and pieces can be tricky. Maybe someone can post a reliable method for accomplishing this.

[CapnScurvy]

I wonder if this is not due to having file/registry remnants that were not removed. I'm no expert, but I've read getting cleaning all the registry bits and pieces can be tricky. Maybe someone can post a reliable method for accomplishing this.


Yes it might be.....but bugs has said he's taken care of any remnants. :06:

AVGWarhawk has this "sticky" thread called "How to re-install SH4! (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290)", which tells you what to look for in the Registry for deletion.


One more thing, the graphics card issue some have: i got a desk top icon
task manager; loaded into memory, app. showes its running
still no go


First off....don't use the short-cut desk top icon to start the game. Go to your main game folder and start the game using the following circled icon:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg


I don't understand this at all bugs........you say the game is running in the task manager. Do you also have the game icon displayed along the "toolbar", at the bottom of the Windows screen??


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Mainfile1_zpscecf984c.jpg


If so, double clicking the toolbars "SilentHunter4" icon doesn't take you to the game?!

If the game is running.....this icon should be displayed along the bottom of the screen, in the "Toolbar". If it's not displayed....the game isn't running. Or, at least your Windows7 isn't properly set to run the game.


=============


Just one more thing to try. IF you have the icon along the Toolbar, yet nothing happens after double clicking it. Try loading the Large Address Aware (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) app and getting the "sh4.exe" to recognize the added/available RAM memory you have with your system.

LAA comes in a compressed file. Extract it to a folder you make under the C:/ folder (I called the new folder "Large Address Aware"). :doh:

Don't just open the compressed file and try to work the magic within the compressed file. "Extract" it to this new folder....then, open LAA. If the procedure goes as expected, a "settings.sav" file is made with your having LAA do its thing.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/LAA1_zps1046534b.jpg


To make sure LAA has allowed the game to use more than its default RAM memory of 2 gigs....if you open the Large Address Aware app, go to "Mode", then "Advanced"...... you'll see the above window. The path of the "sh4.exe" is displayed, with the heading LAA having the "True" entry. This shows your game is prepared to use the extra memory your system has.

Since you said your Win7 is 32 bit...you'll need to make an adjustment to your computer BEFORE you have LAA do its thing. This comes from the LAA thread:

1. Open command prompt with Adminitrator rights. To do this, go to Programs, Accessories, right-click on Command Prompt and select "Run as Administrator."

2. Enter the following at the prompt and press enter:

bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 3072

3. Close the prompt and restart the computer.

With a 32 bit Operating System, this switch needs to be thrown for the later added LAA to take effect. 64 bit OS don't need to do this at all. With a 32 bit OS you'll get to use 3 gig's of your 4 gig system, a 64 bit OS would allow up to 4 gigs to be used with the game.

I can tell you this really works!!

My 4 gig Vista OS 64 bit computer CTD when running the "Battle of Midway" Single Mission after about 20 minutes. Too many ships, explosions, planes I guess. Putting the LAA to work....making sure the LAA was loaded with the "True" entry.....no more CTD!!

Could be your game just won't start without it....just a thought.

[bugs]

Yes it might be.....but bugs has said he's taken care of any remnants. :06:

AVGWarhawk has this "sticky" thread called "How to re-install SH4! (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290)", which tells you what to look for in the Registry for deletion.




First off....don't use the short-cut desk top icon to start the game. Go to your main game folder and start the game using the following circled icon:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg


I don't understand this at all bugs........you say the game is running in the task manager. Do you also have the game icon displayed along the "toolbar", at the bottom of the Windows screen??


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Mainfile1_zpscecf984c.jpg


If so, double clicking the toolbars "SilentHunter4" icon doesn't take you to the game?!

If the game is running.....this icon should be displayed along the bottom of the screen, in the "Toolbar". If it's not displayed....the game isn't running. Or, at least your Windows7 isn't properly set to run the game.


=============


Just one more thing to try. IF you have the icon along the Toolbar, yet nothing happens after double clicking it. Try loading the Large Address Aware (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) app and getting the "sh4.exe" to recognize the added/available RAM memory you have with your system.

LAA comes in a compressed file. Extract it to a folder you make under the C:/ folder (I called the new folder "Large Address Aware"). :doh:

Don't just open the compressed file and try to work the magic within the compressed file. "Extract" it to this new folder....then, open LAA. If the procedure goes as expected, a "settings.sav" file is made with your having LAA do its thing.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/LAA1_zps1046534b.jpg


To make sure LAA has allowed the game to use more than its default RAM memory of 2 gigs....if you open the Large Address Aware app, go to "Mode", then "Advanced"...... you'll see the above window. The path of the "sh4.exe" is displayed, with the heading LAA having the "True" entry. This shows your game is prepared to use the extra memory your system has.

Since you said your Win7 is 32 bit...you'll need to make an adjustment to your computer BEFORE you have LAA do its thing. This comes from the LAA thread:



With a 32 bit Operating System, this switch needs to be thrown for the later added LAA to take effect. 64 bit OS don't need to do this at all. With a 32 bit OS you'll get to use 3 gig's of your 4 gig system, a 64 bit OS would allow up to 4 gigs to be used with the game.

I can tell you this really works!!

My 4 gig Vista OS 64 bit computer CTD when running the "Battle of Midway" Single Mission after about 20 minutes. Too many ships, explosions, planes I guess. Putting the LAA to work....making sure the LAA was loaded with the "True" entry.....no more CTD!!

Could be your game just won't start without it....just a thought.

game start in folder sh4.exe
no tool bar icon
task manager; process status loaded into memory shwop 373,496 kb top of list
task manager; application status running shwop
ive looked at every line of regedit [ know it by heart
will try LAA soon

[bugs]

Yes it might be.....but bugs has said he's taken care of any remnants. :06:

AVGWarhawk has this "sticky" thread called "How to re-install SH4! (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290)", which tells you what to look for in the Registry for deletion.




First off....don't use the short-cut desk top icon to start the game. Go to your main game folder and start the game using the following circled icon:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/SH4v10GameFolder_zpsc809f13c.jpg


I don't understand this at all bugs........you say the game is running in the task manager. Do you also have the game icon displayed along the "toolbar", at the bottom of the Windows screen??


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Mainfile1_zpscecf984c.jpg


If so, double clicking the toolbars "SilentHunter4" icon doesn't take you to the game?!

If the game is running.....this icon should be displayed along the bottom of the screen, in the "Toolbar". If it's not displayed....the game isn't running. Or, at least your Windows7 isn't properly set to run the game.


=============


Just one more thing to try. IF you have the icon along the Toolbar, yet nothing happens after double clicking it. Try loading the Large Address Aware (http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) app and getting the "sh4.exe" to recognize the added/available RAM memory you have with your system.

LAA comes in a compressed file. Extract it to a folder you make under the C:/ folder (I called the new folder "Large Address Aware"). :doh:

Don't just open the compressed file and try to work the magic within the compressed file. "Extract" it to this new folder....then, open LAA. If the procedure goes as expected, a "settings.sav" file is made with your having LAA do its thing.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/LAA1_zps1046534b.jpg


To make sure LAA has allowed the game to use more than its default RAM memory of 2 gigs....if you open the Large Address Aware app, go to "Mode", then "Advanced"...... you'll see the above window. The path of the "sh4.exe" is displayed, with the heading LAA having the "True" entry. This shows your game is prepared to use the extra memory your system has.

Since you said your Win7 is 32 bit...you'll need to make an adjustment to your computer BEFORE you have LAA do its thing. This comes from the LAA thread:



With a 32 bit Operating System, this switch needs to be thrown for the later added LAA to take effect. 64 bit OS don't need to do this at all. With a 32 bit OS you'll get to use 3 gig's of your 4 gig system, a 64 bit OS would allow up to 4 gigs to be used with the game.

I can tell you this really works!!

My 4 gig Vista OS 64 bit computer CTD when running the "Battle of Midway" Single Mission after about 20 minutes. Too many ships, explosions, planes I guess. Putting the LAA to work....making sure the LAA was loaded with the "True" entry.....no more CTD!!

Could be your game just won't start without it....just a thought.

LAA loaded
Sh4 was not there, i added it LAA false ,Original false
nothing was there

[CapnScurvy]

LAA loaded
Sh4 was not there, i added it LAA false ,Original false
nothing was there

So, your saying the toolbar doesn't have the games icon (like pictured below) in it.....then the game isn't loaded.


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Mainfile1_zpscecf984c.jpg

======================


In order for the LAA to work, you need to have the Advanced mode menu showing the Path of the sh4.exe file to be marked as "True" not "False". The Original heading marked "False" is ok (the original game doesn't have the Large Address Aware switch thrown), BUT, the LAA heading will turn from "False" to "True" when the application makes the game use the added memory.

If you can't get the LAA heading switched from false to true, do this:

Right click the sh4.exe file icon (not a short-cut version...the one found in the Wolves of the Pacific main game folder). Open the Properties menu item. You'll find the below looking menu page:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/sh4exe1_zpsedc76cbd.jpg


On the "General" menu tab, the "Attributes" section probably has the "Read-only" box checkmarked (I think the stock game sets it this way). Uncheck it (as the picture shows), Click "Apply", then OK to close out the Properties menu page. Go back to the LAA application and open it. Try switching the sh4.exe file from False to True now. This Attributes/Read-only change should allow for the LAA to have a "True" setting for the sh4.exe file.

[bugs]

So, your saying the toolbar doesn't have the games icon (like pictured below) in it.....then the game isn't loaded.


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/Mainfile1_zpscecf984c.jpg

======================


In order for the LAA to work, you need to have the Advanced mode menu showing the Path of the sh4.exe file to be marked as "True" not "False". The Original heading marked "False" is ok (the original game doesn't have the Large Address Aware switch thrown), BUT, the LAA heading will turn from "False" to "True" when the application makes the game use the added memory.

If you can't get the LAA heading switched from false to true, do this:

Right click the sh4.exe file icon (not a short-cut version...the one found in the Wolves of the Pacific main game folder). Open the Properties menu item. You'll find the below looking menu page:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/crawlee/sh4exe1_zpsedc76cbd.jpg


On the "General" menu tab, the "Attributes" section probably has the "Read-only" box checkmarked (I think the stock game sets it this way). Uncheck it (as the picture shows), Click "Apply", then OK to close out the Properties menu page. Go back to the LAA application and open it. Try switching the sh4.exe file from False to True now. This Attributes/Read-only change should allow for the LAA to have a "True" setting for the sh4.exe file.

that worked i got them switched to true
game still no go
no icon on tool bar

[aanker]

CapnScurvy did you need to enter a registration or activation key when installing Gold?

I needed to enter an activation key with 1.0. however I bought through D2D and have never had a problem - so I know nothing about DVD installing.

This problem bugs is having almost sounds like a registry entry is still hanging around....

If so, uninstalling through add remove programs in Win 7 and deleting all references to SH4 in the registry as described:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290

Bugs says he did this though......

I'm staying out of this, don't want to confuse him - I want to help, that's why I asked about the activation key. Bugs has never said if he needed to enter one. If it is needed and he wasn't asked for one. the uninstall may not have removed all traces.

I'm checking this thread, but I'm stumped.

[CapnScurvy]

Yes Aanker, the DVD Gold Edition has a CD-Key on the included default keyboard commands pamphlet. Starts with "SH4-0Y0N-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx". Its asked for during the install wizard, much like the original DVD for version 1.0.

What's really puzzling is this LAA install. The fact that he needed to open the sh4.exe file; change the Attributes setting from Read-only; and then LAA correctly set the game to become large address aware (with a "True" result) means the game is installed on his computer. The LAA app found the file, correctly read the Properties, and then confirmed its modification for accessing more available memory. Sounds like the game is installed allright......but why isn't it loading.....or may be it is, but the game isn't being displayed while running?!

Not being a Windows 7 user, I'm not able to look through the OS for possible clues as to why its doing this. I might take a look at Microsoft support to see if there's something about programs not running as expected.

[TorpX]

This problem bugs is having almost sounds like a registry entry is still hanging around....

If so, uninstalling through add remove programs in Win 7 and deleting all references to SH4 in the registry as described:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290

Bugs says he did this though......



This process isn't cut and dried, though. The procedure outlined at the beginning of the thread is for an earlier version of the game. Most people use some kind of uninstaller, instead of trying to hunt down registry keys one by one. These programs are not guaranteed to be foolproof; they're known to miss things, and there is no easy way to verify everything is gone.

The last time I uninstalled SH4, I used GeekUninstaller, and CCleaner. I don't claim they are better than any others, but they seemed to work for me.

[CapnScurvy]

I just finished a Google search for "Windows 7 program won't start" and found this, "Windows 7 won't launch programs (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/windows-7-wont-launch-programs/a9f7cea3-8d50-4455-8208-f219f2ca344d)".

There's two methods that could trouble shoot this problem. The first has you running in Safe Mode and checking for conflicts. The second has you following these steps for: "Can't open .exe files in Windows 7 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2688326)" by opening the registry and changing a few things.

Guess it wouldn't hurt to follow some of these methods to see what happens.

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On an additional note bugs, we hadn't gotten into the possibility that your computer may be infected with a virus. No one asked what kind of virus protection you have; whether you've checked your computer for virus's lately? Nor, do we know if you've got an updated virus list for checking.

In this same thought, do you also have the latest updates for Windows 7? I see there's a Service Pack 1 (SP1) for Windows 7.

Could be we're looking up the wrong tree suspecting the game has a problem when the computer might be to blame.

I was continuing to look for solutions and ran across this Windows Support question: "You cannot start programs when your computer is infected with the SirCam virus (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311446)". Seems the very same solutions that I found earlier are directly connected to this specific virus.

[aanker]

Thanks for replying re activation code & Gold. CapnScurvy - I like the check for a virus idea, nice detective work.
...... I used GeekUninstaller, and CCleaner. I don't claim they are better than any others, but they seemed to work for me.

I like these a lot too, especially CCleaner - sorry for going OT

[bugs]

Thanks for replying re activation code & Gold. CapnScurvy - I like the check for a virus idea, nice detective work.

I like these a lot too, especially CCleaner - sorry for going OT

clean boot no help
complete virus scan yesterday, norton, nothing but cookies
sircam virus not found, reg. correct
win 7.1 sp

[CapnScurvy]

clean boot no help
complete virus scan yesterday, norton, nothing but cookies
sircam virus not found, reg. correct
win 7.1 sp

Man o man, I'm stumped too!!

Have you been able to run other programs with your computer? Like Word, or maybe another game? Does this problem only happen when trying to start SH4?

[aanker]

Do you have any other heavy graphics card intensive games bugs?

I suppose they run fine....... if not, PcPitstop:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/

They used to check the graphics card for free, I haven't been there in a while. If they do, that would rule the card out. I'll go there and see if they still do. BRB.......

They do, if your card runs those graphics, it is fine.

I didn't need to create an account either, so it is simple too.

[bugs]

Do you have any other heavy graphics card intensive games bugs?

I suppose they run fine....... if not, PcPitstop:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/

They used to check the graphics card for free, I haven't been there in a while. If they do, that would rule the card out. I'll go there and see if they still do. BRB.......

They do, if your card runs those graphics, it is fine.

I didn't need to create an account either, so it is simple too.

only 4 games
Sh4 was my first try
Railroad tycoon loaded fine
Comand & conquer loaded fine
Tropico loaded fine
no problem with anything else
still looking everwhere
trying everything i can think of
updating what i can

[aanker]

You haven't had to enter a registration number/letters for SH4 yet.... might be good news.

Maybe toss this idea out and see what the guys think.

How about zipping up what SH4 mod files you have and move them someplace safe, and do an uninstall of SH4 through add/remove programs. Also remove Save Games SH4 folder in My Documents.... also any folders in your C:\a sub game folder.

Next run CCleaner (free) - Just a 'regular cleaning' with default settings.... the broom icon
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

Then remove all traces of Silent Hunter using Ccleaner again by cleaning your registry with Ccleaner (backup registry when it asks you), then try to install SH4 Gold fresh.

What do you guys think?????

[TorpX]

I don't have any better ideas. :06:

[CapnScurvy]

How about zipping up what SH4 mod files you have and move them someplace safe, and do an uninstall of SH4 through add/remove programs. Also remove Save Games SH4 folder in My Documents.... also any folders in your C:\a sub game folder.

Next run CCleaner (free) - Just a 'regular cleaning' with default settings.... the broom icon
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

Then remove all traces of Silent Hunter using Ccleaner again by cleaning your registry with Ccleaner (backup registry when it asks you), then try to install SH4 Gold fresh.

Yes, I'd try that but wouldn't bother with saving any of my mod files.

After a complete uninstall (including the Documents/SH4 folder); then cleaning the Registry; then a new reinstall, I wouldn't be too quick in putting back anything that was left over from the first game experience. I think (just for superstition sake :88)) I'd re download everything (I like saving the compressed downloads....to go back to later if needed), including JSGME, once I was sure the game will launch.

Probably wouldn't hurt standing on one leg, and whistle Dixie either!!

[aanker]

Bugs, did you get it?

[bugs]

Bugs, did you get it?

i havent quit yet
doing this between jobs
i think im going to reload the whole world
i cant quit ,even if i want to, must make it work!!!!
back to the ship yard

[TorpX]

Good luck! :up:

Sooner or later someone here should be able to figure it out.

[bugs]

Good luck! :up:

Sooner or later someone here should be able to figure it out.




reloaded win 7
reloaded NVIDA and
reloaded SH4 gold
only
it works good
now ill reload other things one at a time to see what the problem was
i hope
thanks all for helping
on the high sea again CPT.Bugs

[CapnScurvy]

PHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEW! :up:

Thanks for getting back with us. Too many times we never hear if our help does any good, or not.

[aanker]

PHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEW! Ditto!
Nice goin Bugs - dancing a jig!

[TorpX]

it works good
now ill reload other things one at a time to see what the problem was
i hope
thanks all for helping
on the high sea again CPT.Bugs

Good luck! :salute: