Anyone know plumbing?

[GoldenRivet]

Just had a new experience in my rent house, and plumber is on his way tomorrow morning. but...

The 8 yr old was taking a bath, and laundry was going.

keep in mind there was no drainage from the bath at this point.

im sitting here on the computer and i hear bubbling, i go and look and the toilet in both bathrooms is bubbling in the bowl.

kid gets out of the bath and drains the tub.

now both toilets are really bubbling like a couple of percolators, she went in her room and a few moments later the bubbling slowed and seemed to stop

I noticed a wet spot in the carpet outside the bathroom and upon entering the bathroom i noticed about 2-3 mm of water spread through the whole bathroom. WTF? kid takes a messy ass bath!

as im toweling it up, i realize its coming from under the wall, and water is coming in about as fast as i can get it cleaned and i also take notice that there is still about 3 inches of water in the tub that is not draining down the open drain.

I yank the return air vent cover outside of the bathroom off and look in under the heater and from the slab drain for the AC unit water is bubbling out. It was warm water... it was tub water coming out of the slab drain!

My assumption is at this point that the drains are not venting and the water has no place to go except backwards.

the tub slowly drained down to empty, and the bit of a backup subsided, the water is cleaned up, but not sure really why that happened other than poor ventilation of the plumbing system.

My guess is that the plumber will show up and snake the drain vents and everything will be running smoothly again.

thoughts :06:

[Madox58]

:hmmm:
1st.
If nothing was draining in your home and the bubbles were going on?
I'd suspect a blockage in the sewer line and air was being forced back through your system by others drainage. Ask around to find out if others near you had problems.

[GoldenRivet]

she said the washer may have been draining.

beats me.

hope its an easy fix

[Stealhead]

Could be the sewer line backing up assuming you are on a sewer or the septic tank might be full or a clog from the house to the tank or jacked up leech(which is really bad).

Yeah that sounds pretty bad if it is all the way to your A/C drain line.Many times in Florida A/C drain lines are separate from the main plumbing for just this reason.

Not an expert in plumbing but I know refrigeration and A/C for the most part.

Or it could be like you say crappy ventilation in the plumbing which means it will happen again and again and again.

Of course once when I a little kid I dunked a magazine in the tub until is was mush and then flushed it down the toilet that went over real well and my dad thought Vietnam was hard.

Maybe you got an alligator stuck up in the sewer line.

[Madox58]

I'd still suspect a sewer line plugged up.
It depends on how the plumbing lines are all connected as gases should vent through things like sink drains and the stink pipe that goes out the roof of a dwelling. Did you notice any smells?

[nikimcbee]

You may want to go in the crawl space, but since you're Texas, proceed with caution. Watch out for critters.

[Stealhead]

I'd still suspect a sewer line plugged up.
It depends on how the plumbing lines are all connected as gases should vent through things like sink drains and the stink pipe that goes out the roof of a dwelling. Did you notice any smells?


Yeah that is true unless those all somehow got blocked up which is pretty much impossible.

[GoldenRivet]

everything seems to be draining normally for the time being. But just in case, plumber will be here in the morning.

glad it was all clean water and not sewer!

[fireftr18]

Sounds to me like a major clog in the main drain line.

[Aktungbby]

Grey water(baths) and Black water (toilets) drainage issues all at the same time indicate Main sewer partial blockage from tree roots, washer lint buildup, feminine hygiene products, kitchen grease and excess disposal sludge etc.. Should be a tapout in the sewer to open or the plumber will put one in when he snakes it all out. As long as pure Stygian Black stuff:down:(blow all ballast!) ain't backing into the tub, you're not in reeeeeal tuff shape...yet! It's still going, albeit slowly, in the right direction. Could also be a frozen/split bath drain in the wall from the tub depending on your recent Polar vortex temperature issues if leaking in the house wall/ flooring, though, as you indicated.. Have had all of the above myself...had to cut down the tree and replace the original 40 yr. Asbestos 30' sewage line too :nope: trench warfare if ever mingled with joy of home ownership!:doh:

[Wolferz]

My toilet is leaking under the tank.:wah: Not from the recent polar episode but, most likely from my stepson's heavy girlfriend sitting on it.:huh::-?
Her name is Heather when it should be Heifer.:smug:

[kranz]

I'm an expert plumber.
Your GF will confirm.

[Jimbuna]

My toilet is leaking under the tank.:wah: Not from the recent polar episode but, most likely from my stepson's heavy girlfriend sitting on it.:huh::-?
Her name is Heather when it should be Heifer.:smug:

That's terrible!! :stare:


But I liked it :)

[Wolferz]

That's terrible!! :stare:


But I liked it :)

In my best Scottish brogue; "Aye! she's a fat'un she is"
And now I have to fix the toilet.

[GoldenRivet]

The city side of the main vent trap had a clog, contributing to the backup was the washer and bathtub draining simultaneously... if one or the other had been draining separately the clog might not have been discovered until things got worse.

City came and flushed the system, drained the bathtub 3 times... no problem.

Now the missus has her shower back, her laundry room back and i have my peace and my piece back :rotfl2:

[Aktungbby]

Lucky for you and the check book! Now drain the tub; run a batch of potato peelings disposal-wise; and flush the toilet(s) while draining the wash cycle all at the same time: just to check if 'das Hoos boot" will really dive...good luck Kaleun:salute:Snaked main sewers have a way of recurring....

[GoldenRivet]

well it is a rent house, and my lease is up in exactly 45 days.

considering options :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

A winter move with the kids in school...there goes yer 'peace' again!:rotfl2:Loved your sig photo so much I had to keep up!:woot:

[Wolferz]

I'm going to attempt a repair on my leaking toilet tank. <crossing fingers>

[Tango589]

Good luck skipper, there's nothing quite like rooting around the back of the khazi to make you feel slightly unsavoury.:salute:

[Armistead]

You guys got it easy, I got my old house about 50% done before we moved in. Someone welded in most of the old cast iron tubs and toilets..Anyway, I replaced most of the faucets with new valves and stuff, finally got the tub working. I was in the basement over the tub while my wife was bathing and all of a sudden for about 10 seconds water came pouring from somewhere on top of me to the floor and stopped. I thought I must have a leaky pipe or valve, but that was all now behind the new drywall, tile, etc...figured I'd have to rip it all off to go looking...but couldn't find a leak as we ran more water...I finally figured it, the tub overflow. My wife will lay flat in the tub and dunk her head causing the water to rise to the overflow, but it wasn't secure, so came out a crack where I didn't tighten it. I had to be careful not to make a joke about her body mass flooding the basement when she lay all the way in the tub....

More amazing is how they wired houses, my guess is it got rewired sometime in the 50's, but how more houses didn't burn down then....wires just wrapped, small clamp and lots of electrical tape...course I had planned on rewiring it...

[Aktungbby]

.had to be careful not to make a joke about her body mass flooding the basement when she lay all the way in the tub....

184 BC: at Syracuse: Mathmatician Archimedes: "Eureka Eureka!" on discovering the theory of displacement...just run down the street naked too!:har:

[Wolferz]

You guys got it easy, I got my old house about 50% done before we moved in. Someone welded in most of the old cast iron tubs and toilets..Anyway, I replaced most of the faucets with new valves and stuff, finally got the tub working. I was in the basement over the tub while my wife was bathing and all of a sudden for about 10 seconds water came pouring from somewhere on top of me to the floor and stopped. I thought I must have a leaky pipe or valve, but that was all now behind the new drywall, tile, etc...figured I'd have to rip it all off to go looking...but couldn't find a leak as we ran more water...I finally figured it, the tub overflow. My wife will lay flat in the tub and dunk her head causing the water to rise to the overflow, but it wasn't secure, so came out a crack where I didn't tighten it. I had to be careful not to make a joke about her body mass flooding the basement when she lay all the way in the tub....

More amazing is how they wired houses, my guess is it got rewired sometime in the 50's, but how more houses didn't burn down then....wires just wrapped, small clamp and lots of electrical tape...course I had planned on rewiring it...

Double check the wire. If it's really old, it might be aluminum wire, not copper. Which is a fire hazard. Covered with that thick black asphalt insulation?

[fireftr18]

184 BC: at Syracuse: Mathmatician Archimedes: "Eureka Eureka!" on discovering the theory of displacement...just run down the street naked too!:har:

:huh: :har:

[Armistead]

Double check the wire. If it's really old, it might be aluminum wire, not copper. Which is a fire hazard. Covered with that thick black asphalt insulation?

It was actually a mix, lot of old knob and tube covered with loom, but wiring was such a mess I'm rewiring, takes time because of plaster over wood slat, but I've got about 70% done, what's not done is dead...

[Wolferz]

The Loo is repaired and holding it's water until called for.
$4.00 fix. :up: Naturally it had to be the bolt on the port side that broke.:stare: Making it more difficult for my stroked port side to accomplish the repair:-?

On the plus side, I don't have to replace the toilet, which, will come with a complete bathroom remodel if it ever dies for good.

[Aktungbby]

Making it more difficult for my stroked port side to accomplish the repair
Thank god the handle's on the right! Ya bloom'n four-flusher!:woot:

[Wolferz]

The Loo is repaired and holding it's water until called for.
$4.00 fix. :up: Naturally it had to be the bolt on the port side that broke.:stare: Making it more difficult for my stroked port side to accomplish the repair:-?

On the plus side, I don't have to replace the toilet, which, will come with a complete bathroom remodel if it ever dies for good.


edit: Addendum...

Wife 2.0 informed me right after I finished the repair that the toilet had probably been leaking for a month or so. In her typical female logic she couldn't find the leak and didn't think to inform me of it because she thought it sounded like it was coming from outside.:88) I didn't notice the seepage into the laundry area of the basement until just the other day, because I heard something dripping onto a detergent bottle, long after it had originally started. The underside of the flooring now has nasty black and white stains. :haha::wah:

Well water can sure eat some shtuff up. :-?
The bolt was brass and it broke off right at the head due to oxidation. A problem that frequently occurred with our sump pumps... until I fixed it!

I shouldn't complain though. The toilet is almost as old as I am. Fifty plus years of service is not something you'll get with modern day hardware.:sunny:

[Jimbuna]

I shouldn't complain though. The toilet is almost as old as I am. Sixty plus years of service is not something you'll get with modern day hardware.:sunny:

Now your simply talking a load of crap :)

[Aktungbby]

her typical female logic

Congrats on your literary award from :subsim:! the first redundant oxymoron I've ever witnessed in writing...:woot::har:

[Wolferz]

Now your simply talking a load of crap :)
Don't worry. I flushed it.:O:

Congrats on your literary award from :subsim:! the first redundant oxymoron I've ever witnessed in writing...:woot::har:

I aims to please.:salute:

[em2nought]

My guess as to why there was a problem in the first place - supposedly disposable wet wipes.

[swamprat69er]

Wolferz, I just remodeled my bathroom. Had black mould in the walls and floor. Gutted it and started over....cost me $18,000.oo, about a third of what I paid for the place.:wah:

[Wolferz]

Wolferz, I just remodeled my bathroom. Had black mould in the walls and floor. Gutted it and started over....cost me $18,000.oo, about a third of what I paid for the place.:wah:

Gold fixtures are a tad expensive, eh?:03:

[Armistead]

Wolferz, I just remodeled my bathroom. Had black mould in the walls and floor. Gutted it and started over....cost me $18,000.oo, about a third of what I paid for the place.:wah:

Must be nice to have enough money to hire it all out....:up:

[swamprat69er]

I remortgaged the house.

[swamprat69er]

Gold fixtures are a tad expensive, eh?:03:
No gold. BUT I got a huge shower out of the deal. 5x4'

[Aktungbby]

Must be nice to have enough money to hire it all out....:up:

A KIND THOUGHT, BUT ACTUALLY MORE IN THE WAY OF NOT PAYING SOMEONE TO COME IN TO REDO WHAT I'VE MUCKED UP IN MY ENTHUSIASTIC HOME DEPOT FUELLED IGNORANCE!:O:HOME DEFENSE AT ITS LOWE$T COMMON DENOMINATOR. THE $WEETNESS OF THE INITIAL $AVINGS ARE OFT EATEN BY THE BITTERNE$$ OF NOT GETTING IT RIGHT THE FIR$T TIME:wah:!

[swamprat69er]

That is exactly why I hired it out.

Sign in the barbershop: We repair home haircuts $20.oo
Regular haircut $10.oo

[nikimcbee]

@GR any updates on your plumbing disaster?:hmmm:

[Madox58]

I'm going to attempt a repair on my leaking toilet tank. <crossing fingers>

I trash year old (Or less!) American Standard toilets on nearly every demo job I do.
Most are not the cheap versions!
:o

I would gladly give them to anyone that can come pick them up at any demo I do.
:yep:

Next job is in Wilkes-Barre, PA. I can bet there's 2 there at least!
Then I'll have some in Stockton, Ca around Feb/April.
:D

[Wolferz]

I trash year old (Or less!) American Standard toilets on nearly every demo job I do.
Most are not the cheap versions!
:o

I would gladly give them to anyone that can come pick them up at any demo I do.
:yep:

Next job is in Wilkes-Barre, PA. I can bet there's 2 there at least!
Then I'll have some in Stockton, Ca around Feb/April.
:D

If we can arrange to meet at the location in Wilkes-Barre, I'd be happy to take a look,:up:

[Madox58]

If we can arrange to meet at the location in Wiles-Barre, I'd be happy to take a look,:up:
I'll be at the Wyoming Valley Mall starting Saturday.
:D
I'll PM my cell number if you wish.
:up:

Edit - Plans show 2 toilets that have to go.

Pictures of the site can be found here.
http://www.burnsretail.net/drawings/2014-4%20AEO%20%230232%20Wilkes-Barre,%20Pa%20%20Updated%20Construction%201-8-14/survey/

a129.jpg is a toilet shot.

[GoldenRivet]

@GR any updates on your plumbing disaster?:hmmm:

First page, post 15ish

:)

[Wolferz]

I'll be at the Wyoming Valley Mall starting Saturday.
:D
I'll PM my cell number if you wish.
:up:

Edit - Plans show 2 toilets that have to go.

Pictures of the site can be found here.
http://www.burnsretail.net/drawings/2014-4%20AEO%20%230232%20Wilkes-Barre,%20Pa%20%20Updated%20Construction%201-8-14/survey/

a129.jpg is a toilet shot.

PM the store you'll be in and the time you'll be there and we can meet over the clapper.:)

[Wolferz]

First page, post 15ish

:)

Were you all flush with anticipation that left you drained?:O:

[Jimbuna]

Were you all flush with anticipation that left you drained?:O:

Dear oh dear :88)

[Madox58]

PM the store you'll be in and the time you'll be there and we can meet over the clapper.:)

American Eagle Outfitters.
Mall opens at 10 AM but we may be there earlier.
PM-ing cell number just incase.
:yep:

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[Armistead]

Wolferz, if you get both crappers, you can ship one to me....and none of that COD crap.

I need a cast iron claw tub cheap if anyone runs into one...

[Wolferz]

Wolferz, if you get both crappers, you can ship one to me....and none of that COD crap.

I need a cast iron claw tub cheap if anyone runs into one...

So you want an antique tub for just a little moolah?:hmmm:
I wish you luck. It might be time to hit an estate sale at an older property.
:yep:

[Jimbuna]

So you want an antique tub for just a little moolah?:hmmm:
I wish you luck. It might be time to hit an estate sale at an older property.
:yep:

Better he dates an old spinster :)

[swamprat69er]

Better he dates an old spinster :)

He'd have better luck at getting the claw foot that way AND maybe a cheap crapper to boot.

[Armistead]

So you want an antique tub for just a little moolah?:hmmm:
I wish you luck. It might be time to hit an estate sale at an older property.
:yep:

It's for the big moolah...Dang tubs cost an arm to get blasted and enameled, think I'll try sandpaper and a can of spray paint....

[Armistead]

Better he dates an old spinster :)

Hmmmm....not bad Jim, not bad at all....

[swamprat69er]

It's for the big moolah...Dang tubs cost an arm to get blasted and enameled, think I'll try sandpaper and a can of spray paint....

You will wear out your arm before you get the enamel off that tub. the spray paint will only make it look okay, but I don't think it will be serviceable.
Have you got a used household appliance store/Sally Ann or a cut rate appliance store? Or watch for people tearing down old turn of the century houses.

[swamprat69er]

Armistead: 2 PMs coming.

[Aktungbby]

@ Armistead: I hit estate sales looking for old watches to restore..... Lots of Victorians and antique furnishings shops in Napa. PM me yur $$ range and style(S) preference for tub and I'll look harder; usually on weekends, for old tubs, including old French Empire style. Also have u googled recycle-torn down house inventories?

[Armistead]

They make decent reproductions, but searching for the right antique. We have numerous dealers here, but I prefer to ride around looking at all the old houses and making offers for stuff. Just got a beautiful wrought iron gate for $50 and a nice mantle. Found one tub I like, but cost about $700 to get restored.

Thanks for the links swamp, I'll check that one out...

[swamprat69er]

I do some shopping at both S-A and T-S.

[u crank]

Just finished installing new kitchen faucet. Had to put new shut-offs in as well. Amazingly, no leaks and it actually works.

As Mr. Green says, "if women don't find you handsome, they can at least find you handy."

:D

[swamprat69er]

Now that the job is done, are you going to read the instructions to see if you done it right?:D

[u crank]

What instructions? :O:

[Wolferz]

What instructions? :O:

The ones your wife gave you!:haha:

[u crank]

The ones your wife gave you!:haha:

She vacated the premises when I started. Fear of colorful language I guess.

What, me. Never.:03:

[Jimbuna]

The ones your wife gave you!:haha:

She vacated the premises when I started. Fear of colorful language I guess.

What, me. Never.:03:

LOL :)

[Wolferz]

The day I fixed the loo, I got everyone out of bed by setting the tank top onto the edge of the bath tub. It slid off into the floor with a great noise.:huh:

Works better than an alarm clock.:haha:

[swamprat69er]

The day I fixed the loo, I got everyone out of bed by setting the tank top onto the edge of the bath tub. It slid off into the floor with a great noise.:huh:

Works better than an alarm clock.:haha:
Where does everybody P if you just woke them up and you got the crapper tore apart? Over the balcony?

[Wolferz]

Where does everybody P if you just woke them up and you got the crapper tore apart? Over the balcony?

Potty chair.:03::D

[Jimbuna]

Potty chair.:03::D

Or one of them chamber pots secreted underneath the bed :)

http://s28.postimg.org/b4re934i5/toiletpaper_potty.png (http://postimage.org/)

[swamprat69er]

Over the balcony or 'pick a tree' sounds way more inviting. When I was a little 'un we had a chamber pot at the farm. Never used one. Outhouse was way more inviting.

[Wolferz]

Over the balcony or 'pick a tree' sounds way more inviting. When I was a little 'un we had a chamber pot at the farm. Never used one. Outhouse was way more inviting.

You mean the chickens didn't peck you on the way?:03:

[swamprat69er]

You mean the chickens didn't peck you on the way?:03:
Hen house was on the south side of the property, outhouse was on the north side. The little peckers weren't quick enough.:)

[swamprat69er]

"Why did the little pecker cross the property?" They're quick enough when granny's got her hatchet!(unless its sneaky Lorena Bobbit):/\\chop Actually Louie XVI lost it(somewhat similarly) on this very date...his 'pequer du Rôi' waren't quick enough! He had a few plumbing problems of his own...and HAD listened to his wife's instructions:doh: Nobody empties yer châmberpot fer ya ...in the Bastille-no matter how Hoity yer Toity!!:rotfl2::dead:

:har::har:

[Wolferz]

Louie got a little stopped up when they took his head.
No longer did he have a pot to pizz in. Which was good because I'm sure his aim would have been terrible.
I think one of the peasants defecated down his neck.:huh: Napoleon Bonapotty?
"There's yer cake motherfletcher!"