Gov Christie...sunk by his own torpedo?

[Onkel Neal]

"I'm no bully" sounds a lot like "I'm not a crook". After being a fan of the Sopranos, I would rather not have a New Jersey politician like Christie in the White House. He's on my "no way in hell" list, along with anyone named Clinton, Bush, or Obama, or anyone from Texas.

You know a politician is having a bad day when he has to stand before a news conference and plead, “I am who I am, but I am not a bully.”

Frankly, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was unconvincing on that score Thursday as he attempted to contain a widening abuse-of-power scandal. Moreover, Christie displayed a degree of egocentrism that can only be described as stunning. His apologies would have sounded more sincere if he hadn’t portrayed himself as the real victim.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2014/01/12/1-christie-has-a-lot-of-nerve-portraying-self-as-victim.html

A bit of background is needed: During his successful re-election campaign last fall, Christie — shown by polls to be a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, should he decide to seek it — tried to run up the score by winning endorsements from elected officials across the state, Democrats as well as Republicans.

The mayor of Fort Lee, the town on the New Jersey end of the George Washington Bridge, declined to give Christie his support. Shortly thereafter, Christie’s deputy chief of staff, Bridget Anne Kelly, sent an email to an official at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency that controls the bridge, that said: “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.”

[Oberon]

In before Democrat conspiracy :O:

Doesn't leave the GOP with a lot of good candidates for 2016 if Christie has been sunk. Rand Paul will always have his followers, and Scott Brown has been quietly working in the background, but Christie has been the bookies favourite, so we'll have to see how he plays this one.

Wouldn't it be a laugh if it was Brown vs Brown (Scott vs Jerry, respectively). No matter who wins, it's Brown for America. :har:

[Schroeder]

Bridgegate made even news in Germany. Like in a Kindergarten. Don't you have any politicians that can be taken seriously?:nope:
(on the other hand do we have any that can be taken seriously???):damn:

[Ducimus]

Any New Jersey politician will probably be as bad as ANY Chicago politician. That state may be a bit too authoritarian for my taste.

As an aside, while I don't agree with all libertarian philosophies (such as complete deregulation, which is like trying to put a fire out with gasoline), I think we need a Rand Paul type.

[Red October1984]

In before Democrat conspiracy :O:

Doesn't leave the GOP with a lot of good candidates for 2016 if Christie has been sunk. Rand Paul will always have his followers, and Scott Brown has been quietly working in the background, but Christie has been the bookies favourite, so we'll have to see how he plays this one.

Wouldn't it be a laugh if it was Brown vs Brown (Scott vs Jerry, respectively). No matter who wins, it's Brown for America. :har:

Well we can only hope that America is sick of Democrats enough by 2016 that they vote GOP. :arrgh!:

[August]

In before Democrat conspiracy :O:

I think this article in the New York Post lays out the argument quite clearly:

http://nypost.com/2014/01/11/why-bridgegate-made-headlines-but-obamas-irs-scandal-didnt/

Most government scandals involve the manipulation of the system in obscure ways by people no one has ever heard of. That is why George Washington Bridgegate is nearly a perfect scandal — because it is comprehensible and (as they say in Hollywood) “relatable” to everyone who has ever been in a car. This is the reason this one is not going to go away so easily, even if one accepts the contention that Gov. Chris Christie had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Government officials and political operatives working for Christie, for weird and petty reasons, chose to make traffic worse. That’s the takeaway. When they are reminded of the fact that people working on Christie’s behalf thought it was a good political game to mire tens of thousands of their fellow Americans in the nightmarish gridlock that is a daily dreaded prospect for tens of millions, they will be discomfited by that and by the politician in whose name it was done.


And yet, you know what is also something everybody would find “relatable”? Politicians who sic the tax man on others for political gain. Everybody has to deal with the IRS and fears it. Last year, we learned from the Internal Revenue Service itself that it had targeted ideological opponents of the president for special scrutiny and investigation — because they were ideological opponents.

[Oberon]

Well we can only hope that America is sick of Democrats enough by 2016 that they vote GOP. :arrgh!:

The GOP would have to take an RPG to its foot to lose 2016.

Unfortunately they're very well armed... :dead:

I think this article in the New York Post lays out the argument quite clearly:

http://nypost.com/2014/01/11/why-bridgegate-made-headlines-but-obamas-irs-scandal-didnt/

Just goes to show, doesn't matter if you're left or right, black or white, if you're in politics, chances are you're either corrupt or heading that way. :salute:

[August]

The GOP would have to take an RPG to its foot to lose 2016.

Unfortunately they're very well armed... :dead:



Just goes to show, doesn't matter if you're left or right, black or white, if you're in politics, chances are you're either corrupt or heading that way. :salute:

Except that it's the media who ultimately decide whether such sins are forgiven or used to hang a politician.

[Tango589]

IMHO anyone who wants to be a politician should not be allowed to be one, on the principle that they are only in it for what they can get for themselves.

[Red October1984]

The GOP would have to take an RPG to its foot to lose 2016.

Unfortunately they're very well armed... :dead:

:har:

I'd rather be armed than defenseless.

[Wolferz]

The GOP would have to take an RPG to its foot to lose 2016.

Unfortunately they're very well armed... :dead:



Just goes to show, doesn't matter if you're left or right, black or white, if you're in politics, chances are you're either corrupt or heading that way. :salute:

If it turns out that you're incorruptible, there's always some ass hat in the wings ready and willing to push you over that cliff.:cool:

Still, it's a sad state of affairs in the GOP if all they have anymore is people who wish to cause misery.:nope:

I know! Let's round up all those traitorous poiiticians and their ilk and put those FEMA camps to work.:rock:

[August]

Still, it's a sad state of affairs in the GOP if all they have anymore is people who wish to cause misery.:nope:

What,, do you mean like closing national monuments and parks even though it actually costs more to keep them closed than to keep them open just to make sure that the sequester noticeably hurt the average American?

Both parties do it but only one party seems to be held accountable for it and that's a much bigger problem

[Aktungbby]

I would rather not have a New Jersey politician like Christie in the White House. They'll haf'ta resurrect Taft's old bathtub for that 'fatty Arbuckle'!:oops:

Like in a Kindergarten. Don't you have any politicians that can be taken seriously?(on the other hand do we have any that can be taken seriously???) Nope, we just learn from der masterrace!:O: Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery!:up:

[Oberon]

Except that it's the media who ultimately decide whether such sins are forgiven or used to hang a politician.

Truth, but that being said, with the partisan nature of the US media, who caters for the undecided? The Democratic media will exploit it for all it's worth, the Republican media will shrug its shoulders and highlight all the similar incidents that the Democrats have made, and the people who which one or the other will base their opinion according to their respective party lines.
So, really, the important matter is what the neutral news outlets (if there are any) are saying about it, because the others have already made up their minds about it.

[August]

Truth, but that being said, with the partisan nature of the US media, who caters for the undecided? The Democratic media will exploit it for all it's worth, the Republican media will shrug its shoulders and highlight all the similar incidents that the Democrats have made, and the people who which one or the other will base their opinion according to their respective party lines.
So, really, the important matter is what the neutral news outlets (if there are any) are saying about it, because the others have already made up their minds about it.

Even worse a truly neutral news outlet would be relentlessly attacked and destroyed by both sides.

The closest alternative that i've found and the one I tend to read the most is http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ which is just a collection of news articles from both sides.

If you read the articles in pairs, one conservative and one liberal it can at least give one an idea where the middle might be.

[soopaman2]

This is Jersey politics at its finest. Pardon me if I am desensitized. Our last governor was Jon Corzine, who lost 1.5 billion and you barely hear anything about that, compared to this.

This is a witchunt, kinda like that Benghazi thing with the President. News outlets can't say the R next to his name fast enough.


I was personally affected by this, I use that bridge. The traffic is bad on it with all lanes open, It was a dick move, by whoever had it happen.
As of now I see no proof that Christie ordered it, just pitchforks,torches, and accusations.

[Wolferz]

If both sides would stop leaning one way or the other in the curves, they might not fall out so much. Lean forward, then step on the gas.:hmmm:
That way, whoever's riding bitch can either hold on for the ride or get left behind.

It's so simple.

[CaptainMattJ.]

What,, do you mean like closing national monuments and parks even though it actually costs more to keep them closed than to keep them open just to make sure that the sequester noticeably hurt the average American?

Both parties do it but only one party seems to be held accountable for it and that's a much bigger problem
Because its not like obama is criticized on every single move he makes and called every nasty name in the book, right?

The reason you hear so much about the GOP is because they let their most extreme, outrageous members speak the loudest.

[August]

The reason you hear so much about the GOP is because they let their most extreme, outrageous members speak the loudest.

Right, because Christie is one of the GoP's most extreme, outrageous members... :roll:

[CaptainMattJ.]

Right, because Christie is one of the GoP's most extreme, outrageous members... :roll:
I didn't say that, nor did i imply it. I was talking about the GOP as a whole, not Christie.

[soopaman2]

Right, because Christie is one of the GoP's most extreme, outrageous members... :roll:

Exactly, August. He is actually moderate, more slightly to the right, and not hardcore, bible thumping, gay hating, conservative most people are used to.
The only reason he won 2 terms in a heavy Democrat state.


I would prefer him president, he has alot more balls than Obama.

People would think twice about stepping on us, if they knew we had a CinC who would go out of his way to make your life miserable.

[Tchocky]

I would prefer him president, he has alot more balls than Obama.

People would think twice about stepping on us, if they knew we had a CinC who would go out of his way to make your life miserable.

Hooray for democracy.

[August]

People would think twice about stepping on us, if they knew we had a CinC who would go out of his way to make your life miserable.

So you're saying he's guilty? :o

[soopaman2]

So you're saying he's guilty? :o

I am not sure what to think yet, sir.

But a few posts ago, I stated this is typical Jersey politics, and that I am desensitized.

If he did do it, then so what? He certainly proved his point.

If he didn't, which is what he says, he has fired people. then so what.

Guilty or not, it is a classic troll move , mind you, I use the GW bridge daily, I got screwed up on this personally. ( I was smart enough to leave earlier, and take the tunnel) Not everyone is as smart as me, and god forbid someone watch a traffic report. But this does no phase me much.

Jersey Politics. Down and Dirty.

I kinda like Christie, I make no secret of it. His guilt? As I can see now, I see nothing that links him directly to it.

And even if I did, I will still give him my trust in 2016. I am scared of what righty loonies will march on us from the GOP during primaries..

(edit: I personally think this is a democrat smear campaign, to kill off the most viable Republican candidate, this is a game, at our expense, either way you look at it.)

[August]

If he did do it, then so what? He certainly proved his point.

Well the thing is if it turns out that he did do it after a two hour televised denial then his goose is pretty much cooked.

[soopaman2]

Well the thing is if it turns out that he did do it after a two hour televised denial then his goose is pretty much cooked.


He left himself open to whistleblowers with that.

Most politicians would deny and say next question. Only time could tell, and what crawls out of the woodwork.

I mean move of a guilty man? Or move of a man with all his bases covered?

Or not even his move.

Everyone is frothing over this because it is Jersey, and OMGZORZ Sopranos LOL.....Mafia, stinky, corrupt. wheeeeeeee stereotypes!!!!:har::har::har::har:

[August]

He left himself open to whistleblowers with that.

Most politicians would deny and say next question. Only time could tell, and what crawls out of the woodwork.

I mean move of a guilty man? Or move of a man with all his bases covered?

Or not even his move.

Everyone is frothing over this because it is Jersey, and OMGZORZ Sopranos LOL.....Mafia, stinky, corrupt. wheeeeeeee stereotypes!!!!:har::har::har::har:

Hey you were the one implying that he did it not me. Who needs enemies with supporters like you! :)

[soopaman2]

Hey you were the one implying that he did it not me. Who needs enemies with supporters like you! :)


:D

I am implying that I do not think he is above it. Typical Jersey Politics.

Maybe he did, no proof he did, but if he did...well then LOL. I have refined the art of trolling over many years of internets, and this move is absolutly hilarious.

We need a pic of Christies fat body with the trollface superimposed on him.

[Wolferz]

Want to start a slug fest? Start talking politics.:rock:

[nikimcbee]

:D

I am implying that I do not think he is above it. Typical Jersey Politics.

Maybe he did, no proof he did, but if he did...well then LOL. I have refined the art of trolling over many years of internets, and this move is absolutly hilarious.

We need a pic of Christies fat body with the trollface superimposed on him.


You mean something like this, but not as mean looking?
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4043/4254524701_9dccce2635_o.jpg

[nikimcbee]

Want to start a slug fest? Start talking politics.:rock:


Not here in the GT!:dead::rotfl2:

[Wolferz]

Not here in the GT!:dead::rotfl2:

GT... Government Tango? /Tangle? Tongue?

Let's try a one party system... "We the People":)