Viral Photo from Connecticut - "Looks like Weimar Germany"

[Feuer Frei!]

A now-viral photo showing a long line of Connecticut residents waiting to register their guns and ammo is circulating across the Internet — and it’s sending chills down the backs of some gun owners. Connecticut gun owners are rushing to register certain firearms and ammunition that will be considered illegal contraband in the new year.

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SOURCE (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/31/looks-like-weimar-germany-the-viral-photo-out-of-connecticut-thats-giving-some-gun-owners-chills/)

[GoldenRivet]

:nope:

shameful

[August]

And look at how many are turning on those poor folks with internet tough talk.

Just what the antis want to see. Gun owners divided and fighting amongst ourselves.

[Cybermat47]

Yeah, it looks just like Weimar Germany. Look at all those Communists and Freikorps killing each other.

[Red October1984]

No words for how stupid this is.

:dead:

[Stealhead]

Seeing as it Gleen Beck I am surprised the article does not try to convince you to buy gold.

Ah never mind I see the banner add now.

[Cybermat47]

I don't see why everyone's so upset. Don't the majority of NRA members support registration, despite what the leadership says?

[August]

I don't see why everyone's so upset. Don't the majority of NRA members support registration, despite what the leadership says?


No. Where did you get that idea?

[gi_dan2987]

I don't see why everyone's so upset. Don't the majority of NRA members support registration, despite what the leadership says?

Absolutely not! I don't know where you got that information but that is not true. We already have a background check system in place that's been working just fine. It's called NICS, and yes there is a paper trail with it, and no, felons cannot obtain guns legally through NICS. Why would we need another one of these systems? The only reason would be to know where to send the Gestapo when the gov't feels like it, at all the LEGAL owners.

Let's not forget about Tyrone still being able to nab a MAC11 or TEC9 from the trunk of a car in a dark back alley. I don't think registration would affect him now would it?

[Stealhead]

The idea that has the most support in the US is making background checks cover all gun sales.The "loophole" is not true either most states require background checks even at gun shows and local municipalities in many cases in states that do not require check at gun shows supersede the state and require a check.

Strict registration is by far the least supported idea by actual firearm owners NRA members or not.Not every legal gun owner is an NRA member.

[gi_dan2987]

Not every legal gun owner is an NRA member.

I'm one of them! I have over $15,000 invested in guns, ammo, reloading equipment, raw lead, ready to lube bullets, and accessories. It will be a cold day in hades when I give that up! That's my WHOLE life savings in there!

I got out of the NRA when I started to realize that they were taking back door deals to keep their mouths shut about the new unconstitutional laws regarding our 2nd amendment. We pay them to NOT keep their mouths shut about issues like this!

I'm not giving up my guns, and I'm not signing up for obamacare. Take my money, shoot me, arrest me, do your worst. I'm sick and tired of everybody living in fear, and I'm not taking it anymore!

Everywhere I look I see a castrated society that mopes around with their tails between their legs. Does it even mean anything to be American anymore?

[Cybermat47]

No. Where did you get that idea?

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

[d@rk51d3]

Geeze, even us firearms owners in Australia don't support registration.

All it's done is supply a shopping list to criminal organisations.

[August]

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

They are two different things but you're certainly not an idiot. Just another victim of deliberate media obfuscation i'll bet.

[Admiral Halsey]

Geeze, even us firearms owners in Australia don't support registration..

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

[Red October1984]

I'm one of them! I have over $15,000 invested in guns, ammo, reloading equipment, raw lead, ready to lube bullets, and accessories. It will be a cold day in hades when I give that up! That's my WHOLE life savings in there!

I got out of the NRA when I started to realize that they were taking back door deals to keep their mouths shut about the new unconstitutional laws regarding our 2nd amendment. We pay them to NOT keep their mouths shut about issues like this!

I'm not giving up my guns, and I'm not signing up for obamacare. Take my money, shoot me, arrest me, do your worst. I'm sick and tired of everybody living in fear, and I'm not taking it anymore!

Everywhere I look I see a castrated society that mopes around with their tails between their legs. Does it even mean anything to be American anymore?

Here's a guy who has his priorities straight. :woot:

Especially the part highlighted in red. :)

EDIT: NSA Watchlist...ACTIVATED. :O:

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

Yes, maybe you just interpreted things wrong. I've done that more than a few times. No worries. I forgive you...but as far as gun legislation goes...Less Is More.

[Cybermat47]

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

Gun laws are certainly stricter than before the Port Arthur massacre, but we can still own guns.

[d@rk51d3]

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

No, just alot cash, alot of hoops to jump through, and alot of lube.

First you need to apply with the states Police Department. They do a background check, and if you don't have a violent history, you then get approval for a firearms training/safety course.

This sets you back several hundred dollars, depending on the category of firearms and licence you require. You study the various acts and legislations, safety, ethical hunting, followed by a mutiple choice examination.
Then comes a hands on with a bolt action .22lr and a O/U 12g. 10 rounds of each supplied, and a minimum score on paper and steels is required for a pass.

Once tests are completed and passed, the results are sent back to the police, who will then (at their leisure, up to several months later) send you the appropriate paperwork to aquire your Photo ID firearms licence.

This then sets you back several hundred dollars more, for up to five years, which will then need to be renewed with.............. you guessed it, more cash.

You'll spend about 1K all up to get started, and more if you then become a range member.

Then to purchase a firearm, you need to fill out a "permission to aquire" form, again at cost. The police will then sit on your application for 1 month before approving.

Once your firearm is purchased,you then need to take it to the nearest police station, and register it..........more cash.

You now wait for the knock on the door to have everything inspected, at the discretion of the police (could be several times a year..... could be never).......... and to the interpretation of the law held by whatever inspecting officer you manage to draw from the hat.

Most people aquire a "class a&b" licence.
Myself, I managed a class c.......... again with more cash required.

Class A


Air rifles, air guns and paint-ball firearms;
.22 calibre rim-fire rifles (not being self-loading rifles);
Single or double barrel shotguns (not being self-loading or pump action shotguns).
receivers of these firearms
Class B


Muzzle loading firearms (not being handguns);
Revolving chamber rifles;
Centre-fire rifles (not being self-loading rifles);
Break action combination shotguns and rifles;
Double barrel centre-fire rifles that are not designed to hold additional Rounds in a magazine, and
All other firearms (not being prescribed firearms, handguns, self-loading Firearms or pump action shotguns) that are not class A firearms.
receivers of these firearms.
Class C


Self-loading rim-fire rifles having a magazine capacity of 10 rounds or less;
Self-loading shotguns having a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less;
Pump action shotguns having a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less.
receivers of these firearms (does not include revolving chamber rifles)
Class D


Self-loading rim-fire rifles having a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds;
Self-loading centre-fire rifles;
Self-loading shotguns having a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds;
Pump action shotguns having a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
receivers of these firearms (does not include revolving chamber rifles)
Class H


Handguns.

You also need to nominate how your licence will be used:
use as a member of a recognised firearms club - 1; (you must then compete in a minimum nuber of scored shoots per year, by law
target shooting - 2; (but not a match at a club)
hunting - 3;
paint-ball shooting - 4;
use in relation to carrying on the business of primary production or in the course of employment by a person who carries on such a business - 5
use in the course of carrying on the business of guarding property or use in guarding property in the course of employment by a person who carries on that business - 6
such other purpose as is approved by the Registrar - 7

So, not impossible, but to do it legally it requires work. You then paint yourself as a target for:

a) the police, as you're now an easy target, and makes them look like they're beating crime. (ooooh, look. a loose rimfire round up on the shelf. You've just lost the lot.)

b) the criminal element who have access to the datatbases containing your name, address, and what you have in the safe. (you get broken into, your stolen firearms get used in a crime. YOU bear the brunt of the law, while the crim is back out on the street, because his mommy didn't buy him that dolly when he was little)


Easier to grab one from the back of the van, down at the wharf on a Saturday night. No questions asked. :shifty:

[gi_dan2987]

Here's a guy who has his priorities straight. :woot:
EDIT: NSA Watchlist...ACTIVATED. :O:


I was on the NSA watchlist as soon as I got home from Iraq in 2007. All returning veterans have been declared domestic terrorists didn't you know?

If they want me, they know where to find me. Prison? Great! I live in a dilapidated 1970's era apartment that has mildew growing in the windowsills and mold in the hallways.

I'm unemployed, and nobody will hire me because of my broken work history due to continuous deployments for training, combat, etc.

I live on $500 a month of VA disability income with my fiance and I couldn't be happier!

My Guns ARE MY ONLY ESTATE! THEY ARE MY ENTIRE NET WORTH!

I'm confined to this stuffy little 800 Square foot ground-floor bunker they call an apartment, tell me about Prison again?

I hardly have enough money to get myself a beer at the end of the month much less pay my bills. This forum IS my life, and that's sad! But I've adapted and so it's all good.

I could care less about being shot. I've had plenty of rounds snap the air past my skull to really come to terms with it.

Where are the REAL men!? It's OUR responsibility to have the GIGANTIC BRASS BALLS that are required to protect our women and children!

So to NSA: I hope you're watching me! Take a picture so you will know the face behind the nightmares that you will have at night. You can't kill all of us! BRING IT ON!

[d@rk51d3]

This forum IS my life, and that's sad!

Gee, we feel so loved right now. :O:

[gi_dan2987]

Easier to grab one from the back of the van, down at the wharf on a Saturday night. No questions asked. :shifty:

And that's all the reason why registration doesn't work. It pushes people into criminality to get what they want.

[gi_dan2987]

Gee, we feel so loved right now. :O:

You are loved. :/\\k:

But yes, besides taking care of the cats, the house, and my lady, this is about it!

[Tribesman]

So if this is the wiemar laws, are the Beckian horde hoping for the regime which swept away those draconian firearms laws?:hmmm:

[Wolferz]

So, Dan, How does it feel to have been deployed by the criminals that consider themselves your betters? All done under false pretenses.

Meanwhile, back in the desert, the Arabs were eating their dates and pumping the oil.

Yeah buddy, they can have my guns, ammo first. If they can get past the claymores:arrgh!:

[Cybermat47]

Yeah buddy, they can have my guns, ammo first. If they can get past the claymores:arrgh!:

Can we talk about gun laws without discussing the best ways to kill people?

And isn't your anti-gun law argument based on the opinion that not all gun owners are killers? Talking about killing people is a bit counter-productive.

[Jimbuna]

Subscribing.

[Tribesman]

Subscribing.
Will it get interesting though?
When the god of CAPSLOCK is invoked in regards to "REAL men!" it does leave it wide open for some serious piss taking:rotfl2:

[gi_dan2987]

So, Dan, How does it feel to have been deployed by the criminals that consider themselves your betters? All done under false pretenses.

Meanwhile, back in the desert, the Arabs were eating their dates and pumping the oil.

Yeah buddy, they can have my guns, ammo first. If they can get past the claymores:arrgh!:

Well at the time I was deployed, I had no idea what was truly going down. Once I found out the sickness behind the whole operation, I promptly ETS'ed out and turned down promotion. My heart wasn't in it anymore, and I've been sour this whole time because we were lied to! I actually protest the war and government now, and I feel I have the right, because I've served under the gov't during the war.

You would be surprised how many ignorant people still attempt to say that I'm a "hippie" just because I have long hair and mutton chops, but little do they know! I get chewed out for peacefully protesting something I feel I have earned every right to protest. I served in it, I can protest it!

[gi_dan2987]

Will it get interesting though?
When the god of CAPSLOCK is invoked in regards to "REAL men!" it does leave it wide open for some serious piss taking:rotfl2:

This is an issue regarding the United States. I'm calling out to my fellow countrymen. I know not what goes on in Ireland, you folks have your own problems I'm sure. How about that flare up over the "Real" IRA? What's that all about now? :hmmm:

[Tribesman]

This is an issue regarding the United States. I'm calling out to my fellow countrymen. I know not what goes on in Ireland, you folks have your own problems I'm sure. How about that flare up over the "Real" IRA? What's that all about now? :hmmm:

Yes dear, the US exists in a little bubble and nothing in that bubble goes out and nothing outside that bubble goes in.

Could you clarify something for me, as a foreigner I simply wouldn't know.
When you say Tyrone can buy a Tec 9 illegally do you mean some paddy immigrant from bandit country or do you mean something else?:hmmm:
Just for clarification like as it may clear up why some "patriot" vets are on the government watch list.

[Oberon]

Yeah, it looks just like Weimar Germany. Look at all those Communists and Freikorps killing each other.

http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens6242702_1249236370certificate_sealbigblue.jpg

:yeah:

[gi_dan2987]

Yes dear, the US exists in a little bubble and nothing in that bubble goes out and nothing outside that bubble goes in.

Could you clarify something for me, as a foreigner I simply wouldn't know.
When you say Tyrone can buy a Tec 9 illegally do you mean some paddy immigrant from bandit country or do you mean something else?:hmmm:
Just for clarification like as it may clear up why some "patriot" vets are on the government watch list.

That's actually incorrect. There are many Americans who do not live inside a bubble.

When I say Tyrone can buy a TEC9 from the back of a car, I mean that anybody can buy a TEC9 illegally, anywhere, in any country.

You seem to be a little heated. Was it the comment about your beloved terrorist group known as the IRA? :hmmm:

[Cybermat47]

You seem to be a little heated. Was it the comment about your beloved terrorist group known as the IRA? :hmmm:

I think they only loved them when they were acting against British forces and not Irish civilains (if they ever even loved them), which I'm pretty sure they started doing at some point :-?

[gi_dan2987]

I think they only loved them when they were acting against British forces and not Irish civilains (if they ever even loved them), which I'm pretty sure they started doing at some point :-?

With that I rest my case. You can't refute a solid fact!

Oh and for the record, my step-father is English. I'm actually of Irish descent, but at least I have the ability to discern a terrorist who should be on a watch list, and somebody who just really cares about their country.

I also have the ability to ignore folks who interject into matters they don't belong.

It's a great skill to have in these days of internet tough guys!

Oh and to answer your question, yes the IRA has executed their own on a number of occasions. I would say that's a terrorist group and not an Army. Lord Mountbatten was a prime example (though he wasn't Irish). HE alone was their target, but because they're an unprofessional rabble, they took out innocents along with him. I don't have respect for people like that, Irish or not!

[Cybermat47]

Oh and for the record, my step-father is English. I'm actually of Irish descent, but at least I have the ability to discern a terrorist who should be on a watch list, and somebody who just really cares about their country.

I also have the ability to ignore folks who interject into matters they don't belong.

It's a great skill to have in these days of internet tough guys!

Wait, I'm confused, do you think that I'm arguing with you? If that's the case, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

[gi_dan2987]

Wait, I'm confused, do you think that I'm arguing with you? If that's the case, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Nope, I actually agree with you! The IRA has killed their own!

Also just because I choose to not get involved in European affairs does not mean that I'm ignorant as to what's going on in Europe. My country here in the US is having its own trouble, and my allegiance is to the land of my birth, as it should be.

[Tribesman]

That's actually incorrect. There are many Americans who do not live inside a bubble.



Sarcasm meter not working too well?

When I say Tyrone can buy a TEC9 from the back of a car, I mean that anybody can buy a TEC9 illegally, anywhere, in any country.

Yes dear, common phraseology isn't known outside the bubble:doh:
What next Juanita and her anchors?

You seem to be a little heated. Was it the comment about your beloved terrorist group known as the IRA? :hmmm:
Epic fail.:har:
The only person getting heated is yourself, you started getting hot right from the start of the topic, you really moved towards the boil when foreigners commented.:yep:

For an even bigger fail....
Oh and to answer your question, yes the IRA has executed their own on a number of occasions. I would say that's a terrorist group and not an Army. Lord Mountbatten was a prime example (though he wasn't Irish). HE alone was their target, but because they're an unprofessional rabble, they took out innocents along with him. I don't have respect for people like that, Irish or not!
Well done, you just condemned your own army and other armies as terrorists:yeah:
What was it they called the innocents while you was protecting your country in Iraq?

[Admiral Halsey]

That's actually incorrect. There are many Americans who do not live inside a bubble.

That's true. I try to keep myself updated on Russian and Chinese news.(I figure if WW3 ever happens it will be the US with it's allies fighting either one or both of those two countries and their allies.)

[gi_dan2987]

That's true. I try to keep myself updated on Russian and Chinese news.(I figure if WW3 ever happens it will be the US with it's allies fighting either one or both of those two countries and their allies.)

I feel there's just going to be so much legislation come down the pike in such a short amount of time, that we'll all be felons overnight eventually.

[Admiral Halsey]

I feel there's just going to be so much legislation come down the pike in such a short amount of time, that we'll all be felons overnight eventually.

Hopefully if anything truly egregious becomes law we finally rise up and throw the traitors out of office.

[Tribesman]

Hopefully if anything truly egregious becomes law we finally rise up and throw the traitors out of office.


At which point they will be replaced with another bunch of dickheads who are very quickly indistinguishable from the crowd you throw out, just like any revolution.
Unless of course you really go on the Weimar line and replace them with an even worse bunch

[Tribesman]

You're trolling again.
That's trolling????
Young man, that is sarcasm.

[Sailor Steve]

That's trolling????
Young man, that is sarcasm.
I consider phrases such as "yes dear" to be intentionally demeaning and inflamatory.

Much like "young man". Just my opinion though, so I've deleted my post.

[Admiral Halsey]

At which point they will be replaced with another bunch of dickheads who are very quickly indistinguishable from the crowd you throw out, just like any revolution.

Well the 1776 revolution at least for the first few presidents seemed to not go that route so maybe the revolution of 20XX might just do that as well?

[gi_dan2987]

At which point they will be replaced with another bunch of dickheads who are very quickly indistinguishable from the crowd you throw out, just like any revolution.
Unless of course you really go on the Weimar line and replace them with an even worse bunch

Thus always the stowaways who talk the biggest.

[Tribesman]

Well the 1776 revolution at least for the first few presidents seemed to not go that route so maybe the revolution of 20XX might just do that as well?
"Seemed" being the important word.
Nearly every overthrow seems to be a great change, but they all settle into the same rut, or an even worse one.

[Tribesman]

Thus always the stowaways who talk the biggest.
You mean like REAL men! with GIGANTIC BRASS BALLS who want to BRING IT ON! because they think they are the face behind the nightmares that you will have at night and You can't kill all of us! :hmmm:
Sounds more like the words of, if I may add yet another quote from you, these days of internet tough guys!

[Admiral Halsey]

"Seemed" being the important word.
Nearly every overthrow seems to be a great change, but they all settle into the same rut, or an even worse one.

At least it didn't fall into the rut for awhile.(Martin Van Buren is when started to fall into that rut IMO.)

[Tribesman]

At least it didn't fall into the rut for awhile.(Martin Van Buren is when started to fall into that rut IMO.)
Possibly, I would have put it at John Adams myself.

[Admiral Halsey]

Possibly, I would have put it at John Adams myself.

Maybe but Van Buren was the first one born at a late enough date to not have first hand memories of the Revolutionary war. I give a lot of leeway to those who either participated in the war or had some form of experience with it.

[Catfish]

Hmm, in the Weimar republic it was about whole armies consisting of millions coming home, with full weaponry and ammo, building up groups (most of it those 'Freikorps') trying to overthrow the Weimar republic all the time (and each other as a side effect).
I cannot quite understand what that has to do with weapon registration ?
And b.t.w. how can one be against weapon registration, but not against eavesdropping and surveillance of every citizen (rifle or not) by e.g. the NSA? :hmmm:

[gi_dan2987]

You mean like REAL men! with GIGANTIC BRASS BALLS who want to BRING IT ON! because they think they are the face behind the nightmares that you will have at night and You can't kill all of us! :hmmm:
Sounds more like the words of, if I may add yet another quote from you, these days of internet tough guys!



I'm not talking about having brass balls on the internet, you seem to do a great job of that yourself!

Looks like that Irish courage is getting the best of you.

[Tribesman]

I'm not talking about having brass balls on the internet, you seem to do a great job of that yourself!


Dreadfully sorry old boy, you really must get hold of that devious fellow who is posting on the internet in your name if those are not your words.

Looks like that Irish courage is getting the best of you.
Looks like your emotions got the better of you a long time ago.
That's almost as lame as your silly line about the IRA:yep:

[gi_dan2987]

Dreadfully sorry old boy, you really must get hold of that devious fellow who is posting on the internet in your name if those are not your words.


Looks like your emotions got the better of you a long time ago.
That's almost as lame as your silly line about the IRA:yep:

It took you almost a whole hour to come up with those, I'm impressed!

How you can troll these forums for over a decade, without donating one bit, and not be keelhauled is beyond me :nope:

I guess it does pay to wear kneepads.

And from what I remember, I never asked for your snide remarks anyhow. You just took it upon yourself to make a comment, because naturally it's what you do.

You have an obligation to validate your lack of self-worth in the real world, by boosting your internet ego.

Really what you're trying to do is get some kind of an emotional response from me. Truth is, I deal with folks like you everyday so your fanciful comments only serve to make you look even more ridiculous than you already are. I almost feel sorry for your pitiful life. Were you an IRA washout? I can understand your frustration with life. Not everybody can take on the British Army. That would require real life brass balls, not your internet ones :up:

[Admiral Halsey]

Ok now let's try and keep this friendly guys.

[August]

Ok now let's try and keep this friendly guys.

Not possible with Tribesman. That's why I and many others here have put him on permanent ignore status.

[Tribesman]

It took you almost a whole hour to come up with those, I'm impressed!


Sorry darling I had other things to do.

And from what I remember, I never asked for your snide remarks anyhow. You just took it upon yourself to make a comment, because naturally it's what you do.
I don't know how to break this shocking news to you, but comments on an internet forum are open to replies.

You have an obligation to validate your lack of self-worth in the real world, by boosting your internet ego.
my sweet, if I felt my self worth in the real world was lacking I would be making the sort of comments about life not being fair and all my years on government paychecks resulting in a just few toys and a damp apartment and how having a job meant I had gaps in my jobs list which meant I couldn't get a job.
But that's your line:yep:

Really what you're trying to do is get some kind of an emotional response from me. As I said already, your problem is that your posts are emotional, try being rational instead.

Truth is, I deal with folks like you everyday so your fanciful comments only serve to make you look even more ridiculous than you already are. Young man, you have shown that you havn't got the faintest clue and just blindly flail about with silly attempts at insults.

I almost feel sorry for your pitiful life. :har::har::har::har:
Blind

Were you an IRA washout? I can understand your frustration with life. Not everybody can take on the British Army. That would require real life brass balls, not your internet ones Blind again:rotfl2:
Now most people would have read "epic fail" and stopped kicking themselves in the balls on that line, but it's ok keep it up unless you can think of something even more ridiculous to show yourself up with.
Though it does tie back to something you said earlier.
I nearly signed up with the British military, luckily I saw sense.
You however didn't see sense till you was shipped off to arab land to play silly buggers for the politicians and have stewed in frustration ever since
The difference between us is that you fairly recently learnt something very obvious that you should have realised long long ago and have been unable to adjust to, which is why you are seething with anger about politicians, which is why you are emotional not rational.
Your emotions are making your attempts at points even more ridiculous than they were to start with.

[Cybermat47]

You however didn't see sense till you was shipped off to arab land to play silly buggers for the politicians and have stewed in frustration ever since


Here comes the lock :dead:

[Admiral Halsey]

What is with your trolling Tribesman? Don't you have better thing to do?

[Tribesman]

Here comes the lock :dead:
Why would that line cause a lock?
Most people, apart from those that still insist the lies about Iraq were really true, know that it was a load of bollox.

[Tribesman]

What is with your trolling Tribesman? Don't you have better thing to do?

Trolling?
I respond to things which are written, do you object to any of my responses to your words?
If you object to my responses to others words then look at their words.

[gi_dan2987]

I've had enough of your mushmouth filth. You've been reported.

[Admiral Halsey]

I've had enough of your mushmouth filth. You've been reported.

Don't feed the troll.

[Jimbuna]

Don't feed the troll.

Not very helpful and I am mindful of possible recent communications from elsewhere.

[Tribesman]

I've had enough of your mushmouth filth. You've been reported.
Yes dear, making silly accusations of people of being terrorists is really going to stand you in good stead when it comes to you making reports on others responses to your posts:yeah:

[Admiral Halsey]

Not very helpful and I am mindful of possible recent communications from elsewhere.

Sorry. Lost my cool for a minute there.

[Jimbuna]

Sorry. Lost my cool for a minute there.

Okay.

[Jimbuna]

I think we've all had enough of this exchange.

One thing I won't tolerate is debate that ends up in an exchange of name calling and insults. There are more acceptable methods of reaching the point where 'failure to agree' is reached.

I'm locking the thread for a maximum period of 24 hours in the hope that mindsets will cool down and reach a level of mutual understanding or disagreement even, failing that, one that is in conforming to the rules of our community.

Should that not be the case then there will be no alternative other than to resort to remedial action.

[Onkel Neal]

I'm also going to chime in here. For a long time, we've allowed a wide latitude of free speech in GT. But there seems to be a few individuals who always take pleasure in being contentious. That's going to stop. If you've garnered multiple infractions over a long time period for being rude and caustic, your next one will be your last.

Friendly, civil debates or take it somewhere else.

[Jimbuna]

Thread reopened...please heed the two previous posts.

[NeonSamurai]

I have to agree. I am really tired of the ridicule and the inane rhetoric in this forum. Debate is highly encouraged, but with respect, or at least with our the insults or attempts to troll or flame.

If you think someone here is a total idiot who never learns, don't engage with them. If you do, you are simply showing how stupid you are; for continuing something you will never have any success with.

[Feuer Frei!]

What I find stupid is how the moderators allow such behavior to continue without enforcement of any of the policies.

I suggest that if you have concerns on how this forum is moderated, that you pm Neal or the GT Mods.
I'm sure that the Mods would agree with my reply.

Derailment of threads comes to mind.

[Oberon]

Or continually posting news stories specifically designed to inflame opinion, without leaving a single comment on the aforementioned story.

[Red October1984]

Sooooooo....

Back OT? (If anybody remembers the OP)

Is this legislation going to spread? :hmmm: Not everybody can possibly be on board with that one.

[Feuer Frei!]

Or continually posting news stories specifically designed to inflame opinion, without leaving a single comment on the aforementioned story.

Well it's obvious you are fully aware of why i post subject matter then. Heck, you seem to know my motifs inside out.
Seriously, if you're going to have a crack at me for assuming that that is what i do, by posting subject matter that obviously you have a problem with, then that isn't my fault.

I'm disappointed that you would assume that.

[August]

Well it's obvious you are fully aware of why i post subject matter then. Heck, you seem to know my motifs inside out.
Seriously, if you're going to have a crack at me for assuming that that is what i do, by posting subject matter that obviously you have a problem with, then that isn't my fault.

I'm disappointed that you would assume that.

I don't think he's talking about you.

[Feuer Frei!]

I don't think he's talking about you.

Oh? If he's not, then i apologize in advance

[Jimbuna]

What I find stupid is how the moderators allow such behavior to continue without enforcement of any of the policies.

This may be unwise of me but I will respond to the above and then consider the matter finished.

I can and will assure you that EVERY post in GT is subject to due diligence, not only by myself but also from other members of the moderation team.

We are all subject to the rules of this forum and as such, great attention is paid to ensure that is the case.

Neal alone decides who shall be a moderator and advises upon what type and or style of involvement he prefers.

For my own part I try to appeal for calm and act only if the appeal fails and a clearly identifiable breach of the forum rules can be identified....of course, someone instantly going OTT would leave me no choice other than to act with immediate effect, so as far as I am concerned I do believe the policies are adhered to and enforced when such a requirement presents itself.

There are those on here, yourself included who have benefited from such an approach....the alternative would be a policy of zero tolerance and I for one would not like to see that position become the norm here.

SubSim in my estimation is akin to a family community and much latitude and tolerance is allowed wherever and whenever possible and long may that continue.

Simply put...this is Neals house and Neals rules and I sincerely believe the vast majority of our community are happy in that knowledge and belief.

If you have an issue with any of the above or with the actions of myself or any other moderator I would suggest you contact Neal.

You will find suitable guidance in the FAQ & Rules section.

[Oberon]

Well it's obvious you are fully aware of why i post subject matter then. Heck, you seem to know my motifs inside out.
Seriously, if you're going to have a crack at me for assuming that that is what i do, by posting subject matter that obviously you have a problem with, then that isn't my fault.

I'm disappointed that you would assume that.

Then why post something that will likely involve more emotion than rational thinking in its reply?

Don't get me wrong, you do post some pretty cool threads, the free books one, and others, but some of your choices do seem somewhat questionable at times, or maybe it's just me misinterpreting things. Maybe I need some time away from this place, most of the people I used to know have gone anyway...

[Feuer Frei!]

snip

Point taken.
I'll take that on board for future consideration before posting.

And thanks for the feedback. :salute:

[Penguin]

Some more feedback:

I think this thread had a very bad chance to develop a productive discussion.
First: the source: a crackpot site from a scam artist. Notorious for reporting made-up stuff with no sources whatsoever.

Second: the "news", making a headline of a tweet some guy did. This also involves a photo, which has no context at all and an ludicrous historic comparision. (I'm willing to bet that the original tweeter couldn't pin Weimar on a map, or even tell one key date of the Weimar Republic without looking it up)
An example:
http://michaelkonik.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/Shoppers-Waiting-for-Life-to-Begin.jpg
Looks like Moscow, Soviet Union :88)

Third: the form of the first post. Only some copypasta. No own opinion voiced, but far worse is no explaination whatsoever.
At least a link to the new gun law in CT would have been helpful, better an explaination of the changes to the existing law and also an explanation how the registering process takes part.

It's not about agreeing/disagreeing with a newssource, but about it's thrustworthness (near bollocks) and it's content (less than a 1st grader's essay about his last trip).

An example of a good thread start is this here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=210352). A good introduction of the topic, combined with newssources of varying political color. This enables even persons who have no idea what Scotland is to get a grasp about what's going on.

@Feuer: hope you see it as constructive criticism.

Last but not least: This here is one of the best articles I know about the history of gun control in the US: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/
More to read than a Tweet, but far more informative. Looks like awfully often in the US history, people were in favor of gun control when it was about keeping Tyrone off bearing one...
To be fair, the NRA already accepted black folks as members at a time when this wasn't the most popular thing to do.

[Red October1984]

I think this thread had a very bad chance to develop a productive discussion.


I made a feeble attempt at going back to the original topic a page ago...I guess nobody read it.

Have to agree though.

[Admiral Halsey]

or even tell one key date of the Weimar Republic without looking it up.

23 March 1933, Passage of the Enabling Act.