T34vsTiger - ammo type?

[steeljackal]

happy new year!

I look in the manual but nothing on ammo type.

I use Tiger. I think one is ArmorPiercing, one HightExplosive and the other type?

[Aktungbby]

Should be four types depending on period of the war: Armor piercing AP, Armor piercing-ballistic cap APCBC(special armor piercing); High explosive HE(infantry); and HEAT or High explosive anti-tank (shaped charge) for the PzKpfw VI E Tiger with L/56 88mm...if memory of 15 years of Panzer Elite serves! Felice Anno Nuovo Comerade:woot: :salute:

[steeljackal]

There are:

1) PzGr39-1 --> AP,HE,HEAT?
2) PzGr39HL --> AP,HE,HEAT?
3) SprGr L-4,5 --> AP,HE,HEAT?

:06::hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

There are:

1) PzGr39-1 --> AP,HE,HEAT?
2) PzGr39HL --> AP,HE,HEAT?
3) SprGr L-4,5 --> AP,HE,HEAT?

:06::hmmm:

1) PzGr39-1 is Panzergranate armor piercing capped, ballistic Cap (APCBC for 88mm L/71; Granate 39 Hl G 39 H1 high explosive Anti-tank (HEAT) for 88mm L/56; Spgr is Sprenggranate High Explosive (HE); what you have not listed is the Panzergranate 40/43 Pzgr40/43 Armor piercing Composite Rigid (APCR) for KwK 88mm L/71 used on the PzKpfw VI B King Tiger as opposed to the PzKpfw VI E tiger with the KwK 36 L/56 barrel; and ever important Nbgr; smoke !! Of the 1354 E Tigers built total, part of that count is 'rebuilds' from heavily damaged- salvaged Tigers. Altogether a bad investment of resources as it is more a defence tank rather than an attack tank, requiring 4 times the cost of the superb IV series (5400 more IV's vs 1345 VI's) tank. The Tiger needed infantry flank support and had to have the outer combat wheels removed for train transport...a time consuming process when trying to move at 'panzer' speed? In the acid test of Kursk, the T-34 's simply rammed the Tigers point-blank and the horrendous delay for the arrival of the untested faulty Panthers cost Germany the climactic battle, all further Eastern Front offense,.....and the war.

[steeljackal]

Ok, all clear. Thanks

Yes smoke garate and Smoke Dischargers/mortar are very usefull, I play to "Close Combat" (I have all by the "A bridge too far" to "panther in the fog") and I see. But in "T34vsTiger" there aren't.

[woofiedog]

PzGr. 39 (armour-piercing, capped, ballistic cap)
Hl. Gr. 39 (high explosive anti-tank)
sch. Sprgr. Patr. L/4.5 (incendiary shrapnel)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00007_zpsd61d9076.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/woofiedog/media/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00007_zpsd61d9076.png.html)

T-34

O-365 Fragmentation Round
BR-365a Armor-Piercing Round
BR-365n Sub-Caliber Armor-Piercing Projectile

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00019_zps4ef7f81f.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/woofiedog/media/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00019_zps4ef7f81f.png.html)

Panther


Panzergranate 39/42 (Pzgr. 39/42)Type: Armor Piercing Capped Ballistic Cap High Explosive
Panzergranate 40 (Hk) (Pzgr. 40/42)Type: Armor Piercing Composite Rigid (tungsten core)
Sprenggranate 42 (Sprgr. 42)Type: High Explosive

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00008_zps771eeb25.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/woofiedog/media/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_00008_zps771eeb25.png.html)

[woofiedog]

Should add that there is also a playable T-34/76 model and has a mission.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_0000_zps81c66396.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/woofiedog/media/T-34%20vs%20Tiger/SH_0000_zps81c66396.png.html)

AP (Armour Piercing)
APCR (Armour Piercing Composite Rigid) with a tungsten core
HE (High Explosive)